SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS - Original Sonic Team RETURNS, SEASON PASS, Open Zone, Controversy & MORE 

So what are your thoughts about Sonic X Shadow Generations gameplay so far? Has it exceeded your expectations, or do you have no expectations for it? Lemme know! Update: Also my bad guys, Spider-Man: Miles Morales is already on PC since November 2022! Lol idk why I thought it was coming this November

Fadel really did save face for this game his gameplay looked more interesting with him interacting with alternate routes. They really should have had him record the official gameplay or anyone familiar to sonic gameplay

With gens and unleashed staff returning to sonic team, Kishimoto taking in all of the feedback from frontiers, sega likely giving sonic team more freedom & money for work on the next sonic game, all of the new devs likely joining sonic team as well, and all of the publicity and eyes coming from the sonic movies and sonic prime, seeing all the improvements shadow gens has over frontiers, the next mainline sonic game might just be one of the best sonic games ever made and you know lizuka and kishimoto are going to lock in for the next game

Ngl shadow part will be better than the sonic part. His powers and gameplay is unique

15:09 Honestly, it's almost like Forces is becoming the new 06 in terms of how it's just this looming negative presence in the fandom, except this might be worse because at least with 06 it was critics and people who barely knew what they were talking about and just liked to dog pile, but this Forces obsession is coming *FROM THE FANS* the people who claim to love the franchise, yes Forces wasn't the best, but like Gamerguyd said at 15:15, we are so far removed from Forces yet it's like that game just left a majority of Modern Sonic fans so traumatized that anything that slightly resembles it is automatically bad to them, gives it 20 years like 06 and maybe they'll finally be able to move on and even sing the very few praises from a game that in the grand scheme of things, barely has any baring on the franchise *sorry for the yap session* 💀 I'm just very passionate about this topic since I've been seeing so many Sonic Fans adamant that Shadow Gens *WILL BE* another Forces just because the level design happens to have hallway sections

"I'm going to be talking about Fadel a lot more in this video, because he really saved this game's ass." I expected nothing more, knowing Takashi Iizuka called him Sonic's Hype Guy back when he played Superstars at last years Summer Game Fest.

The fact that the original sonic team are back gives me a lot of hope. It shows that one, Sonic team are starting to care more and 2, that the next games will have Unleashed/ gens quality and style level design. Sonic is back baby!!!!

Shadow Generations is where it's at. Plus Shadow with wings is RAW AF! 🤩

Sonic and Shadow generations was not to reveal at state of play because of performance and graphics but to bring in old fans or people who originally had the copy of the game for the ps3. Did it work? ABSOLUTELY!

Now that I think about it, Forces was like a tech demo for the hedgehog engine 2, since they spent a majority of development on the engine and less on the actual game, reminds me of hellblade 2🤷‍♂️

idk if someone said this already, the season pass is only talking about the things listed under it with the circle bullet points. It was just worded weirdly.

Bruh what if there’s a Sonic boss fight in Shadow Generations!?!!??!!

Fadel always covering the basics for us, shout out to him!

You being one of the most logical and critical Sonic tubers is one of the reasons why I follow people like you and Sam Procrastinates. You all know your stuff when it comes to Sonic and don't go off the rails. As for Sonic X Shadow Generations, I'm definitely looking forward to playing it. It already looks like its going to be better than Frontiers' cyberspace. I'm going to try to pre-order it so I can get the Gerald diary.

1. Please don't act like you're more civil than the rest of the sonic fandom, you're not. 2. Ehh, i don't really like the Japanese one since it looks like it's trying to look like a remake of sa2 while the American one looks like it's sonic generations but with shadow stuff. (Which it is.) 3. Why only sa2, heroes, and 06? (Especially when shadow generations is focused more on Shadow's game with the black arms and black doom stuff.) 4. I see you're wrong about superstars. Sad really. you could've been right, but instead you were wrong. 5. Ah, another person who's like "i want adventure gameplay!" Even then we've moved past it.

15:20 these sonic fanboys man 🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂😂

Gamerguyd you’re legit when it comes to leaks ect 💯🔥🔥🔥

Bro this game is looking so good i completely forgot we have a movie on the way 😭

*Nice to see Sega keep a concept into the next game with an open zone like Frontiers 👍.* This already shows more effort than I expected

The modern drop dash looks like the fan mod.

Generations is the Sonic 3&K of the 3D games. Let's hope the next open zone game can be the Sonic Mania we've been waiting for 😂.

Bro is back 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Good to see you again, GamerGuy. As I’m excited to play generations, I am also looking forward to your review when this game comes out. It’s also cool that Takashi took part in shadow’s characterization which means he’s in good hands. It’s cool that the original gang is back. I also like Shadow getting some Venom: King in Black vibes. The open zone is literally the best thing for shadow as I want to skate around so bad. I’m up for any dlc that’s headed our way. It’s to good to hear that you have confidence in this game.

Shadows boss fights should be Biolizard, Black Doom, an Eggman boss fight, Metal Sonic(Metal Overlord form) a Sonic boss fight(maybe the Generation boss fight but from Shadows perspective) and of course Mephiles the Dark!!!

I am very happy and excited for Sonic X Shadow Generations. Especially the Shadow portion, since it is being dedicated to the year of Shadow this year in 2024. Better level design, better animations, and amazing graphics for the Shadow portion. Lastly, I am a big fan of you GamerGuyd, you are the goat 🐐 😁😁.

It's about time I finally get to be able to buy a pretty decent 3D Sonic game again. I'm definitely coping this version of generations. Considering original Generations is literally the last 3D Sonic game that I bought.

Upon seing more of the game I can say I and many people switched up and rightfully so. We thought the highlight would be the sonic generations portion but it looks like it’ll be the shadow portion instead. And as a shadow fan I’m beyond happy, I already preordered the digital deluxe today. Can’t wait

didnt watch the video yet but i was eagerly waiting to hear ur opinions on the game bro, keep up the good work!

What's great about giving the drop dash to "modern" Sonic is that they have an opportunity to finally get rid of Classic Sonic in next titles. It could provide the 2D sections of future 3D games with great Genesis/Mania/Superstars type of physics !

I am hella excited i cannot wait for this game to drop

Gauranteed there isn't that many levels in the game

I kind of loved the Archie Comics explanation for the Dark Rider. With every GUN field team requiring a vehicle for transportation and Shadow just like the bike so much. He maintain it and customised it himself as a hobby.

First off, I really do wholeheartedly agree with most of the takes here. I'd like to point you to 2 videos. One by Daviron, and another by Matthasnocuts. They basically talk about how Forces actually gave Sonic fans PTSD, and now they are petrified that anything that even looks remotely like Forces is gonna be terrible, and how it's ruined Sonic discussion. They're really good, I'd highly recommend you watch them. Secondly, I'm gonna have to disagree with a few of your takes on level design. You used an image by @premydaremy scaling the level design from different games from trash to G.O.A.T.. This is honestly one of the things I dislike about Sonictubers in general, some are just so extreme for no reason. Why does everyone treat Forces like it's the universes most horrendous atrocity ever conceived by humanity. Most people, including critics, just said it was mediocre. It didn't do anything terrible, but it didn't do anything great, hence it's status. I'll be honest, I liked Lost Valley in my initial playthrough. Please note the keyword: "initial". Part of the appeal of Sonic is that the levels are very repayable. So naturally, when that's taken away, it gets downgraded. But it's no where near as bad as people make it out to be. I can confidently say I would def play again. Like, are you legitimately telling me you are having a horrible time when playing it? Like damn bro, get a grip. You're not doing anything! it's literally empty other than the main path. It's just dumb fun style over substance. How is that worthy of years of hate? Now to address the prem image. Just... why? What's with the spaces between the others? The image implies that Sonic Colors complete ass in comparison to Sonic Generations. Most people would be confused with that since the games design are so similar. See what I mean by being so extreme? I can understand why it is there though, because while the level design itself is good, it doesn't follow the usual format. That's because of the wisps. These are more explorative based, so in order to make use of it, more 2D is needed for that heavily layered levels. As a boost game, it's not even trying. But like I said, just looking at the image itself says that "oh Colors is ass, Gens is goated". Now onto other games. You also bashed 06 and Heroes for no damn reason. What did they do? I can't say for Heroes cuz not only have I never played it, it's also so different to the point that I can't put it into the 3 main gameplay styles, classic, adventure and boost. But I can definitely vouch for 06 thx to P-06. The level design is very well done. Have you seen the opening part of Kingdom Valley? There are so many different paths. For the point "People only excuse the gameplay cuz story", while I agree with that, I think it could be used better. Nobody has said that they think the gameplay of the Storybook games is "underrated" or "absolute peak". Most people who say it always present it as a very biased opinion. In fact, people only really bring up black knight for it's story, not gameplay. I have no idea where you got this from. Thirdly, why the fuck are you so damn arrogant man? You at one point said, and I quote "I'm very critical of Sonic, especially in 3D. So if I say it's good, then it's good. You can take my word for it." I'm sorry but what monstrosity just tenta-fucked my ears right now? Did you really try to use the fact that simply because you're more harsh, you have the only correct opinion? Man, gtfo. I have no beef against you, and I still agree with what you said (mostly). But this is just bad man. Keep going like this and you'll end up in a very bad spot. But before you go, I have a question. How are the games different? Some say Unleashed has the best, others say Generations is. When comparing to Shadow Generations, some say it's close, others say it's nowhere near (yet still much better than Forces, damn how big is the spectrum?) to the "undisputed G.O.A.T.s". But in my eyes, they're all the same. There is no difference. It's like classic games. It was perfected in 2/CD, and they just do it again. For 3&K, Mania, and Superstars (love them all the same btw). Did well in Unleashed, and every iteration (other than Forces) did it well. And for Colors and Cyberspace, it doesn't as well, but that's because it's focus is different, but it's still great in it's own way. I once tried to convinve myself that Unleashed and Gens are very different, but after constantly switching from Unleashed Project to base, I realize how similar they are. So someone please tell me how they are different. And lastly, no hate please. I know I was very brutal here, but that was because of the attitude in the video. I mean no harm and I hope that my message comes across well. I apologize if you felt offended or if I was to rude (I can edit if neccasary).

Where did Llzuka mention "Shadow doesn't need guns. He is the weapon. Etc"?? He is right on that point, but it doesn't fully excuse Shadow from ever using vehicles and guns. The explanation back in 2005 was that Shadow had the... choice... and Shadow... uses whatever he can... to get a job done (which was another detail purposely meant to differentiate him from Sonic).

Man, I can't wait for Sonic X Silver Unleashed

As a general rule, I doubt they will touch anything post-2011. That does however limit them to SA2, Heroes, Shadow and 06. I agree that if they use a boss from Sonic 06, Mephiles is the one that was the most personal foe to Shadow in that game's narrative. While others suggested Infinite, I don't think they'll touch that for two reasons. One, Forces was six years after Generations and wouldn't really make sense. Two, Forces is still a relatively recent game, even if it's been 7 years now. Though I guess it would be a surprise. What I would like to see is Shadow interacting with characters that aren't enemies in the cutscenes. I know that's a tall order, but it would be a nice reminder about Shadow's old characterization as "distant, but not cruel" compared to the whole "arrogant and lording it over everyone" schtick he got stuck with up until Sonic Forces made a slight course correction for him. Also, imagine if this campaign unlocks an extra boss. Like say, a more challenging Time Eater battle?

I'm excited for the game. I hope that the season pass does become a thing as more content for this game would go a long way. Especially additional levels and even boss fights. Its kinda weird that classic Sonic only has 1 boss and 1 rival fight. It would be nice to have a proper Knuckles fight or Blaze as a call back to the Rush games. Skins also should be pushed a bit more. SA1 and Terios skin is cool but I hope that they don't just stop there. Movie skins are kind of a must since it's weird that they never capitalised on implementing Movie stuff into the games besides the electricity boost. Riders skins, Soap shoes, and even just some odd skins pulled from the mobile games and Speed Simulator would be nice. I would also like character skins so I can play as Knuckles and Blaze but just change some animations. But that might be a bit much. Some more levels would also be awesome. Having a boost CD level or levels from less mainstream games. Maybe some of the DS version levels and bosses. Implement that Heroes special stage as a minigame.

🤣NOO he said the rest of y'all sonic fans got PTSD from forces i'm not going to lie, forces was a good game because the avatars and the music i didn't really have a problem with it was okay though even though it was annoying, but y'all are real crazy for saying it played just like forces an even shadows abilities play Just Like the wisp y'all sound crazy imagine growing PTSD from a video game because it wasn't good for a Sonic game, god sometimes I think y'all are just overreacting

What do you mean miles morales is coming to steam this November? I've had it on steam for like a year, Even beat it on there

Hey @GamerGuyd7Aces, i noticed that you are using my edit of the Japanese Sonic X Shadow Generations art with the added Classic Sonic and Doom's Eye! Thanks for using it, i made it because of a Reddit post where someone pointed out that the Japanese Sonic X Shadow Generations art felt like it was missing Classic Sonic, so i made an edit that added him and Doom's Eye as well, i have an updated version though, if you want that.

Honestly, it is kinda cool how the series portrays Shadow's power progression. In Shadow, he needed the gun because he had to get back a handle on his abilities first. In 06, he only needed vehicles and weapons to do things physically beyond him, like fly or blow up reinforced search towers. In Shadow Generations, he completely outgrows any dependency on outside tools.

3:32 isn't Miles already on PC bruh 😭since like September 2022

Bro put season pass for impressions like that finna happen

Y'know people never give credit to the Ouranos cyber space stages from 4-2 onward level design being original. It was like everything before 4-2 was homework and 4-2 onward was Frontiers team showing what they learned. Final Horizons was like go wild Sonic Maker style.

"Shadow doesn't need a weapon, he is a weapon." They FINALLY get it, that makes me so happy 😄

I'm very glad that the original team came back to work on this remaster I'm very much looking forward into playing this new version of generations I've never played the original when it came out I only played the 3Ds version and I remember liking it but I have a feeling I’m going to love this version of generations even more I’m getting it on the switch cause that’s the only console I got besides my older game consoles I do plan on getting a PS5 hopefully for Christmas or my birthday cause I wanna branch out and try new games that are not Nintendo games or anything Nintendo related Nintendo will always be my first love but I wanna try new games from different franchises and maybe if I like Shadow generations enough I’ll buy the game on PS5 and play through it again Sonic has gone through probably one of the best redemption arcs Frontiers was the first step to greatness I plan on going back and playing it yes including the DLC it's awesome seeing sonic Succeed with his games again

I hope they add the Spin Dash for Modern Sonic and Shadow as well.

Miles Morales has been on PC for like 2 years.

This is absolutely the best news ever.

For me I really just need to see more gameplay and stages. So far so good but Shadow gotta have at least 9 stages to warrant to purchase. The boss fight looks great. Who the other bosses should be at least have final form doom, mephiles, and infinite. Maybe iblis and solaris too. If we get those and the boss fights are top notch the game would amazing. The pre order bonuses are a headache tho.

TBH with the Sonic Generations portion of Sonic X Shadow Generations, I really don't care about the graphics mostly because Gameplay > Graphics and I'm glad that the Drop Dash is being added to Classic Sonic (being that Sonic Origins gave Sonic the Drop Dash and that Sonic Mania/Sonic Mania Plus, Sonic Forces and Sonic Superstars has the drop dash with Mania being it's debut) not so much with Modern Sonic though and the Chao Rescue is a cool idea. Now for Shadow Generations after seeing the Gameplay, I'm exited for it because this looks to be a tease of what's to come with Sonic Frontiers 2, being able to play as Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Shadow in Sonic Frontiers 2 would be dope (switching between characters for specific puzzles) and I can see the Shadow Generations levels acting as Special Stages for that game. I still plan on getting it physically on Nintendo Switch (mostly because I have Sonic Generations Vanilla on PC) and as for Sonic Fanboys/Fangirls complaining about the levels saying they're like Sonic Forces' levels, I think it needs to stop, they defend games like Sonic and the Black Knight and Sonic 06 and whine about Sonic Forces when yes, Sonic Forces is mediocre and very lackluster but it is what it is, I remember a group of Sonic Fanboys/Fangirls did the same sh*t post Sonic 06 and how they compare Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Colors to Sonic 06, while the hate for Sonic 06 and Sonic Forces are warranted it's water under the bridge now and it's time to stop beating that dead horse. Now with Sega-ATLUS possible retiring the Hedgehog Engine (being it's a 16 year old engine at this point in time) Sonic Unleashed remastered with a Episode Knuckles would be a great way to send the Engine off as Sonic Unleashed was the first game to use the engine and I think giving Knuckles his own episode is better than fu*king Silver is because I remember Sonic fans (sane ones too) asking where's Knuckles and if We get Sonic Unleashed and Knuckles, We can see where Knuckles was during the Dark Gaia incident and have His final boss be Dr. Eggman while Super Sonic and the Gaia Colossus fight Dark Gaia (hell Ian Flynn can take the story from the Archie Sonic Unleashed adaptation and use that for Episode Knuckles.)

I can imagine that they use Shadow to see how it goes and if everyone likes it they will bring him back in more Mainline Sonic Games maybe? But leave my Goat Sonic and the Black Knight i nailed the Controls and have Fun with this one!

Me personally I think it makes sense for modern Sonic to always have the drop dash because he did have it when he was classic sonic. Why would he all the sudden forget a move? But then why don't they bring back the elemental shields for modern Sonic? I do wish of all moves they'd bring the bounce bracelet back tho

I'll be honest: My faith and hope in Sega and Sonic Team doing anything right nowadays is at an all-time low. When they mess up "Sonic Mania (Plus)" on mobile via Netflix, "Sonic Origins" at launch, and completely mess up "Sonic Colors: Ultimate", it becomes impossible to trust them. Not to mention that "Sonic Frontiers" and especially "Sonic Superstars" were actually mediocre at their core from a critical standpoint. And let's not talk about "Sonic Forces" with how that game turned out. Even if this remaster ends up being better than the original game, it's still not going to be enough to convince me that Sega and Sonic Team are entirely focused on getting things right. When there are way more disappointing and terrible products than high-quality to very high-quality products, that particular (former) fan who's been wanting quality since the OG days becomes completely cynical. And that's exactly what I've become: completely cynical ("Sonic Superstars" was the straw that broke the camel's back for me). I'll say this: If the inevitable remake of "Sonic Adventure" ends up being better than the original game, that'll restore quite a bit of my faith and hope for the franchise (outside of the mainline pixel art 2D classic games), Sega and Sonic Team, and the very divided fan base. Until then, this is how I feel as a former OG "Sonic" fan. They have a lot of work to do if they want to restore my faith and hope.

23:00 I don’t want to go back

I hope we have the decision to choose the original button layout in sonic generations I dont wanna press r2 to boost and homing attack with square🙏🙏🙏🙏

Sonic Frontiers was crap anyway, glad they saved Shadow for Generations. Also... NINTENDO SWITCH version... LET'S GOOOOOO! 💪😎

I think there will also be a zone from Shadow the hedgehog (what would be the point of a shadow game if they weren't gonna use a level from his own game, it wouldn't make sense) and a zone from Forces.

To me, flashy graphics and updates only get you so far. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't give me the wow factor I was looking for. The gimmicks and mechanics look stellar on execution. But, let's see when it releases. However: Just because a Sonic game has "hallways" or "corridors" for a section of it's level.... that doesn't make it inherently bad or lazy. Sometimes, simple is effective. Moderation is needed. Given this game is almost 14 years old and is an updated port, I agree with "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Generations was, and still is, good for its time. This port will make it even better

I..i know it won’t but i hope we get the cinematic combat for modern that we getting for shadow in generation 2024

*SEGA REMEMBERS TERIOS!!?* WHAT A DEEP CUT ✂️ 😅.

Did this dude call sonic unleashed a boost to win game ?? Didn’t sound like a joke either ima needa you to watch you’re mouth especially since unleashed was literally the blue print and harder version of generations that just makes no sense but I could be trippin but if not definitely an L take.my hope for this game that I hope they do that they didn’t with the old game is dlc generations was such a missed opportunity for dlc its one of those games that you could seriously keep alive by adding dlc packs with multiple remade levels from the past and I hate that sega never did that so I hope with this game we get a lot more of that especially for shadows levels . Do I think we will realistically? No do I think they should yea especially in modern time I feel like sega is missing opportunity to keep there games alive especially with long waits in between each game since we don’t get much spin offs to hold us over anymore keeping games like this alive with cool and fun dlc would help with that. I haven’t picked up a sonic game in years frontiers is the first game in a long time that seriously peaked my interest and since I never played the original generations even though through the years I could have gotten in cheap I’ve just watched so much gameplay and kids through the years that i felt liked I’d been through the game already there wasn’t much of a big incentive. Now with this remaster and the new content it’s brought me back and on a good note plus I’ll pick up frontiers too good games to gone back to the franchise after not picking up at least any new games for a long time.

They seem to have taken out some of the red rings in the levels we've seen.

I actually like the Sonic Forces Re-Imagined Mod. Looks pretty fun.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this be the start of a good era for Sonic.

If we get Shadow vs Sonic fight, then I hope they give it a Frontiers titan fight where both clash like an DBZ fight instead of just reusing the Gens Shadow boss. I get why they would reuse the Shadow boss fight but still after the bio-lizard fight for Shadow, man imagine Sonic Team flex with Shadow vs Sonic anime fight 🔥🔥🔥

That VGC footage makes the game look boring and now people think that shadow generations is bad we need to get Fadel's footage in high quality

It'd be cool if we see a whole set of generations for all the characters. Knuckles generation and metal Sonic generations would be awesome... Or maybe just a Sonic 3 adventure generations hybrid.

Hypothetically, if we got a sonic unleashed remaster next year or in 2026, and it gave us new day and night stages that had the exact same level design as the base game, sonic fans would still say the levels had forces level design, bc that's what most sonic fans do. Most sonic fans (who aren't children) are chronically online, entitled sados with nothing better to do in their lives with no proper problems hence why they complain about non existent problems. They are some of the embodiment of what's wrong with modern day society.

15:56 yeah man I agree about the bit about why Sonic Forces was bad Some people just completely forgot why that game is bad and just dislike it to dislike it because it’s ’’Sonic Forces’’ I wouldn’t even call the game bad just extremely mediocre and bland

"The best 3D sonic game" "it’s not like unleashed. It’s not boost to win" 💀

Eh. I always defended 06 because of the vast potential it had both in gameplay and story. Had some of my favorite level design in the 3d games minus some of the automation. But in any case I think P-06 proved it could have been the best 3d sonic game.

This game is looking 🔥 its actually got me excited unlike superstars

Honestly I was more excited for the Sonic portion of this game at first. Mostly because is the gameplay did really look the best to me. Granted we didn't see much but from what we did see didn't gas me up as alotta of diehard Sonic fans. Plus, wasn't really a fan of Black Doom returning... he was an incredibly boring Sonic villain of an incredibly boring/bad Sonic game. 😅. But from the recent news I've seen, I am a bit more interested to see how this story plays out i guess. I was good news to hear that Sonic Team was working on this, but to hear the old Generations/Unleashed members are also returning is really great new. Better news 👏 I already knew that 50% of this remaster was gonna be excellent, but im cautiously optimistic that the other 50% may be on par 😅 ..... Shadow growing demon wings did have me raise an eyebrow though 🤨😅

Good news for you bro, miles morales is already on pc

i like the drop dash

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No one is traumatized by Forces🤣🤣It's a child's game, it's not scary. yeah it was bad, but not traumatising. The only ppl who are still going on about forces are chronically online sados.

BTW I really like Sonic Superstars, Because I set the standard on the lowest level that "If we can control it manually, then it's good." And it's good... We can control it manually, And the level design is not "Forces" 😇

9:57 you with your bullshit 😒

Man I really broke the sonic community with my opinion 😞😂

"ITS NOT BOOST TO WIN. ITS NOT LIKE UNLEASHED" Man... you just proven yourself not worthy of being listened right there. Unleashed boost to win WHERE? Gens is 10x more "boost to win" than unleashed can ever be. In unleashed the game expects you to get a hang of the mechanics. In gens the game goes like a tutorial until the very end.

Really hope they Remaster Sonic unleashed Next Please. Just get it onto modern consoles already.

GamerGuyd for the positive, premy for the negative (in a good way). Good vid GamerGuyd till the next one.🫡👍