I have an R6 and love it. But man, the RF lens prices and choices are limited. I've had a wild hair to switch before just to have more lens options at better prices.
Honestly I never really understood this argument. I can see if there was some performance disadvantage while using the adapter but there isn't. EF lenses work perfectly if not better on the RF system. This is also true when you adapt third party lenses
Just use the adapter. L EF lenses are just as good if not better than third party alternatives. Sigma and Tamron could never top the EF L versions in image quality.
I just traded my Sony for canon R6. I got the A7 iv as an upgrade from my A7iii and I’m not sure if I’m the only one but my A7iii was easier to use and shot better. I’m tired of trying to make my Sony footage look like Canon. Just get the canon. Also those Sigma Art lens are cheaper and look amazing I just got the 24mm 1.4 Sigma Art with the canon adopter and it’s amazing.
Hi Alex, thanks for this in-depth comparison of both cameras from a technical perspective and your view as a portrait photographer! I think you also were very fair to compare different focal lengths, of similar price category. I was also looking into both systems at the end of 2021 as I was really frustrated after investing a lot of money into Canon´s R-System (and the original R). The R just missed so many features that I need for landscape and action and I always felt dragged down by it. Worst of all, the aftermarket value of the "R" really went down the drain after the R5/6 were released. The system as a whole to this day didn´t really develop to the point of what I had hoped for back in 2018. Not only is Canon missing 3rd party native-lenses but they also almost completely ditched the "semi-pro" lens market for RF. (e.g. f1.4 L lenses) You can choose to go full pro or are stuck with low end offerings. There simply is nothing to buy in between those sections. I think Sony has an advantage with their native lenses here, as there are really nice mid-range options. What kinda tops it off on the Canon side are the *insane* prices. For example, there is just no justification for the fact that you can get the EF 16-35mm f4 L IS + EF 70-200mm f4 L IS II for the price of either the RF 14-35 or 70-200 f4. Actually, the EF set might even end up cheaper than one of the RF lenses. The difference in quality between the modern EF and RF glass simply isnt that big. Anyway, as the A7 IV was around 500-600€ more than the R6 here (and because I´d have had to sell all my Canon gear), I decided to give Canon one last chance and switched my R for the R6. From the first second on I was stunned by how much more sophisticated the R6 is compared to the R. The R6 has basically everything you could wish for on a semi-pro body. If you can live with the additional size / weight of the EF to RF adapter, the EF lens market is gigantic and pretty inexpensive at the moment. This also partly fixes the problem with Sigma / Tamron not being around in the RF game, if you want to use 3rd party glass you can also use the EF offerings. Thanks again for the video!
Hi, I was considering the R before I started to look at the Sony, what were the features on the R that frustrated you, I would appreciate your comment, thanks
@@briannicholson2971 Hi Brian, to be honest, there were a some specific things that bothered me with the R. I´ve used the camera for about 2 years and it all depends on what you photograph. In general, I´d sum it up with - You just have to adjust to / buy too many things to make the R work. At least that was the case for me personally. I think there were 3 big things that annoyed me in my workflow with the R: 1. Missing Joystick - Touch & Drag AF is mostly fine, but once you really start working around with the camera, quickly changing focus areas, it becomes bothersome. Also think about the fact: What if you decide to flip out the screen to take a photo from a different angle? Most likely you´ll loose focus control with your thumb in that case. Worst case is in the winter time, if you ever decide to take the camera out lets say... below -5°C. You are basically left with using the D-Pad to select your focus area, which takes ages. Of course you can use touch-capable gloves, but most of them aren´t thick enough for colder weather. 2. Framerate and viewfinder lag - Framerate isnt great when you use Tracking AF. I do a good bit of aircraft photography in my free time and do tend to spend a day or two next to an airfield if I can take some time off. The R is quite simply awful for that case as the viewfinder is always "lagging" and you cant adjust to whats really going on in your frame. For example - when I used the R for aircraft, I had pull with the aircraft and *guess* where it will be in the frame. No matter how good you can get at this "guessing game", it can work, but it´s far more comfortable if you have a higher frame rate and can actually see whats happening through the viewfinder in real time. 3. Missing Interval timer / focus stacking - For some unknown reason Canon decided to put those features in the RP but not the R. The internal interval timer is a great feature if you like to do manual time lapses. - You don´t have to carry around a remote. Of course the R has the option to make time lapses, but these are directly processed into a 1080/4K movie and you cant access the single frames. I wont go into this further but it can be a big issue to not have the RAW frames from a time lapse in some cases. Apart from that though, I personally never found the single card slot or touchbar to be a big issue. You can bind the touchbar to the "Lock" button on top and keep if locked if you dont need it, it works quite well like this. Usually used the touchbar for ISO adjustment and then pressed "Lock" once I had my ISO set. It´s a bit of a weird camera and I´d only recommend it if you do a lot of portrait photos and general street/landscape (disregarding the time lapse issue). The 30MP resolution is great. It´s not suited for faster action at all. Best Regards
@@Freacer1 Hi Freacer, many thanks for that its been very helpful to me, whilst my main photography is landscape, i do like to photograph wildlife if the moment is right and like you need to be quick. Getting more into macro and stacking is also something I need to consider. Ideally i am looking for a larger sensor than my current 26mp eos 800d as i do print and at times do big crops, love my canon but pushing it a bit now. cheers
i have 2 eos R, and i think this time (2022), i can get cheap EF L glass than ever before, and Alex said is true, if u choose sony or canon or even other brand, all camera is great, depend how good u know your own gear. i'm in canon for a long time and im in deep knowledge what my gear capable of. and i heard that canon RF mount, is closed for third party lenses, for me i dont care ... coz i just need 3-4 lense top, if i need other lenses, i just rent it ... maintanance free. so this video just confirm, now is like no point compare one brand to another coz all already good. Just picked that already suit you, suit your money, suit your workflow ... coz alot money to go to, not just for camera body, like a new laptop, upgrade PC, extra hardrive, lighting, audio, and a vacation maybe ? 😁
Had the R6, sold it for the a7IV when it came out, no regrets. I have mostly shot Canon over my 17 years of doing this professionally, but I got tired of waiting for lenses. Its going on 4 years now, there will be no Sigma and Tamron lenses, only overpriced RF glass, no thanks. I was able to get 3 great Samyang primes on the E mount for less than one of Canon's RF primes (35 and 50 1.8 excluded) Im also shooting more video these days and the a7IV is better for video. The R6 is just too expensive for what it is. Should be around $2k.
The main reason why I moved to Sony is because of the amount of affordable glass, Sigma art is killing the game. I can’t say I left cannon for anything else other than the price tag for RF glass, I still think Canons Vidoe AF is far better than Sony and the R6 is just a faster shooting photography camera which I really miss having but I love my A7iv ❤
@@MohondhaY I rarely use Canon lenses, they are absurdly overpriced compared to 3rd party offerings from Sigma and Tamron, who offer MUCH better value. The Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 is reason enough to switch. Fantastic lens that replace 4-5 primes and a lens that Canon will never have on the RF mount.
@@michaelbell75RF lens are expensive yes, you are right! But the quality of RF lenses is much better than Sigma and Tamron at same focal length. For example, RF 85mm 1.2 definitely defeats sigma art 85mm. And RF 50mm 1.2 kills Sigma 50mm 1.4 art. Plus, Canon allows you to use adapter and for third party lenses. Sigma and Tamron work well with R series cameras. Need to update some information before you type.
That Sony ecosystem is one really solid reason to buy a Sony body. A7IV is such an good overall hybrid camera. I did enjoy the body more on the R6 as far as feel but man A7IV just does so much very well and I saved big money on lenses. If money is something you have to consider Sony easily is the better route IMO.
People often don't highlight the importance of lens options enough. No point in both cameras being almost equally priced, etc when you don't have or cant afford the lens you need to use your camera.
Thank you Alex. I've been a Canon DSLR shooter and I have both the EOS R and the R7. Both are great and capable cameras. But the problem is the quality RF lenses are so pricey. I just purchased a Sony A7 IV a month ago and I am very happy with it. I have the Sony 55 1.8 and the rest are Tamron 17-28 28-75 and the 70 to 180 all at f2.8. All very good lenses. Maybe Canon is targeting professional photographers but I believe they're not going anywhere if they continue to ban 3rd party lens manufacturers.
Use Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R with EF lenses which is less expensive and better quality lenses. Besides, what the purpose of buying very good pro grade camera and shooting with third party lenses. IMO, this is unjustifiable savings over losing image quality.
As others have mentioned; I'd probably be with Canon if it wasn't for lens selection and price. The 28-70 f2 looks like a dreamy lens, but at 3k I just can't do it.
Man this video was great! I've shot Canon for 15 years and feel they have the best menus, and best ergonomics. One thing that has disheartened me is the price of Canon lenses over the past 7 years or so, though, all lenses have really skyrocketed with inflation. A high end prime now costs more than a high end zoom used to. But the big advantage Canon has over Sony is that with the EF-R adapter, you have a HUGE selection of lenses available, even larger than Sony with no loss in performance (You can't say that for Sony where adapted lenses are very hit and miss at best). In fact, my EOS-R using adapted lenses worked way better than my 5D4 using native EF lenses. Adapted EF lenses generally work just as well as RF glass. On the Sony side one thing that kept me away are the mediocre ergonomics, the terrible clunky menus (still not great... sometimes too much customization and settings is an unnecessary drawback), and man, those outdated terribly crippled Sony screens. Sony is one of the biggest manufacturers of LED screens yet they have by far the worst LEDs in the camera industry. So many people try to dismiss the importance of the LED screen but that's where many people do most of their interactions with the camera on a day to day basis.
Thank you! And you are right, EF glass is also another great option here. Considering they perform even better with Canons new AF it's a great alternative.
Yeah Canon has made it easy for us to go over to mirrorless without having to sell all ef lenses to buy rf lenses and spend alot of money at once . Will sell one of my 5d3s to buy the r6 and slowly transitiom
@@eddikku no only does that want a 800 5.6 or somethimg have alitte problem but they are a small nieche . For eveeyond else there is a lens for their meeds
The most shoking aspect is the fact that the RF Lense market is so stupid. on one side u just can buy cheap "shit" or u have to spend a kidney to get a good glass for rf system. I want to upgrade from my 90D and i love cannon, the Eye tracking on the r 6 seems so out of the world that this cam would be my favorite, but the lense situation kills me rly hard.
I have both cameras also. I like the view finder better for some reason through the R6. I think you can adjust the brightness of the display both in the view finder and on the rear screen with both cameras to more accurately reflect your images. Thanks for the information and best of luck to you!
I think we’re all just nitpicking at this point. I saw a guy in another comment section crying because he couldn’t take a photo with the a7IV screen by touching it. Like uh, don’t be a lazy piece of trash and hit the shutter button. 2nd: These two cameras are above and beyond what anyone else had a couple years ago. Too much crying, not enough photo taking. The cameras have what cameras should have. Great quality photos and videos. Obviously they both have their trade offs bot both cameras are TOP TIER.
its great camera for wedding photographers and videographers,. because we mostly shoot 1080p in Philippines,. also r6 is enough for b-roll, because most of wedding here only runs video highlights,.
Why did you leave out the burst rate ? That's another win for Canon .... 1. Mechanical : 12 fps Canon vs 6 fps Sony ( both at 14 bit colour and Uncompressed Raw / Lossless Compression (Sony only)) 2. Mechanical : 12 fps Canon vs 10 fps Sony ( 14 bit both, Canon still lossless , Sony with lossy compression ) 3. Electronic : 20 fps Canon vs 10 fps Sony ( both at 12 bit colour ) The burst is much better for Canon and burst is important for Wildlife, Bird, Sports and Action photographers
Ergonomin wise the r6 is better for most people, the Sony is better specwise but to be honest for 90 procent of the.buyers both cameras are so good that they will never Max them out . Go for the camera that Feels the best for you and have the best system (again for you). For me its the r6 cause it have all the lenses i need and Feels so much more intuitive for me. Sure wish it had 30mp but the difference is not big and important enough for me
I've owned both. Currently own the A7iv. Both are great cameras, but I wish I would have stayed with Canon. Sony's color profile and the way they render images (very digital looking sharpness) is enough to leave me with buyer's remorse. Also, Austin wedding photographer :)
First of all what a great service you did for me. I’m up on the fence for these two cameras and Bayou providing these raw files now I know which one I want no question hands-down Canon is the better camera. The colors are ten times better. Period lol. There is always a green hue on the skin with the Sony. If you do a basic edit just white balance highlights and shadows exposure then use the same settings on the same photo you will see it. With the Sony you have to go play with the colors the canon is quicker editing and way nicer. Also if you want to see it. Look and the cement or grey walls always has green in it with the Sony canon always clean natural grey. Thank you so so much for these raw files Alex. This is gonna be a good channel you speak well on camera. Thanks
The problem is , some ppl dont hv much time to edit raw files from sony to get to the accurate colours, especially wedding, u cant just put presets to all the raw cause every photos has different conditions, so yeah i still prefer Canon for less editing and faster workflow process
The difference is staggeringly small, so where do you get the idea that it takes "much time"? If you actually cared to download RAW files which are available here for download you'd know that it would take you exactly the same amount of time. In fact, Canon is easily LESS accurate at least with WB in this series, but they're pretty much on par.
@@Mikri90 my question is have u ever edit thousands of photos with different lighting and white balance, highlights shadows HSL to what according to you look best from raw files? If u do, u will definitely know how many time u wasted to edit those, if u havent then dont even bother to reply me
@@Mikri90 awb inaccurate on canon u say? Well sony cams has consistent inaccurate awb all across their jpegs... have u ever seen a tree trunk which is supposed to be in brown colour turns out to have green tint on it with sony cameras? If u havent u will be more than happy to send you those picture that other unbiased photographer put in his youtube video...
@@mbismbismb and the point was - these two are very similar in regards to color/exposure/wb that your objection that people don't want to spend time with Sony is unwarranted, since it would take them exactly the same time. There are downloadable files from the video, and you can see for yourself.
Alex, Your take on these cameras is super helpful. You provide all sorts of important insights that other reviewers haven't called out. I thought I'd made the switch to Nikon, with a purchase of a Z6ii. But after several months of use, while image quality was really great, i found its focusing options not so fast to avail of. So I'm back to comparing the A7iv and the R6. I have a # of quality Canon lenses and Canon's ef-rf connector working so flawlessly is a big draw, along with the better IBIS you and others describe. One other difference between them though some may want to keep in mind (I just stumbled on this) - The R6 DOES take a series of focus stacked images; and it also has a setting allowing for multiple exposures in camera. I use both those. I'm sort of surprised that the current Sony A7iv doesn't. Thanks much!
Craig here chiming in with an update for those who may be on the fence between these cameras. I bought the Canon R6 about two weeks ago and have used it extensively including a week of vacation in Colorado, US. It’s worked fantastically for me. Great images and dynamic range, wonderful ease of use. Love the flip screen, ergonomics and features.
@@craigcarlson4022 Hi Craig, I would be interested to hear how the R6 handles a big crop if you do that , and how do prints turn out also if you do, I am mainly talking 70 x 50
@@briannicholson2971 Brian, sorry, i’m seeing your question just now. I find the 20 mp sensor of the Canon DOES limit how much cropping you can do if you plan to print big. But some beg to differ on that finding (see Pangolin’s RU-vid channel review of the R6 where they print a crop of an R6 file to a good size enlargement and feel it maintains good detail.). I’m still holding off buying any more RF lenses (am adapting my ef lenses) in order to see where these companies go with their next releases.
@@craigcarlson4022 Thank you for the follow up, Craig, I am waiting for Z6 III or something similar from Nikon, but R6 seems good as well, if you put behind that it's "only" 20 mp, also RF lenses are more expensive and I have some F lenses that I could adapt if I buy Nikon, but still EF lenses adapt better than F lenses and I could sell my F and buy some EF for start and now that Tamron are starting to make Z lenses I think I'll just wait and hope that Nikon brings good priced and good quality body.
Really like this video cause you talk about real life use and not specs . Its a shame that Canon dont let sigma Tamron etc make lenses like they do for Sony, but they didnt do that with ef lenses to and even tough thirx lens manufakturers had to backengineer the autofocus they still work great so im not to comcerned they will come soon
I just downloaded sample raws from your links on your videos and when I output both files to the same MP using camera raw, the R6 files are usually more detailed and sharper (and cleaner). Canon must have used a very good (weak) AA filter.
With Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R the Canon ecosystem expends a lot begger. And EF lenses are less expensive by buying them as factory refurbished from Canon online store. I just purchased factory refurbished R6 body for $1700 on holiday discount various Sonny 7iv is till priced for $2500.
Great video, But you are suppose to bring the sony image to the same size as canon to compare, Like sharpness and noise. by bringing down the sony file to the same dimension to canon. the noise level will be compress and the image will be sharper than canon. on the DR, the canon shadow show less detail than sony. Canon always crush the blacks to hide the noise.
I chose Sony A7IV over R6 primarily for very good affordable third party lenses. But like stated, I was so disappointed by the LCD resolution when shooting out door on bright daylight and a very noticeable noises compared to my EOS R. Now I’m questioning my decision since I already have a few RF and EF lenses. One more thing, most of Sony GM lenses don’t have image stabilizer. Some people might say the camera body has IS but If I’m paying a premium price, I want everything on it.
"very good affordable third party lenses" But isn't that the point for EF? The major benefit is that you can use any EF mount lens so you actually have the widest possible selection. I personally wouldn't want to miss the high end lenses, the connectivity, quality screen (as mentioned in the review, more important than many might think for actual daily use). I wonder why you switched when you especially already had RF lenses. Better to stay there, use the RF lenses and if price matters, get some Sigmas etc for it :)
Had the R6 with RF24-70 and returned it for Sony A7IV and Sigma 24-70. I don't miss the stabilization in the lens and I also saved >1300$ on the Sony Pairing compared to the Canon. The combined stabilization in video sucked on the Canon. Very distracting distortion on edges. I haven't noticed any issue photographically using just in body stabilization over the combined stabilization I had on Canon. It's also important to note that the Sigma lens is a native lens for the Sony mount and is more up to date than Sigma and Canon EF mount lenses. There wasn't anything worth noting as far as focus speed and image quality between these two configurations. Just my thoughts on the matter but switching to the Sony A7IV over the R6 hasn't been a decision I regret.
@@Seitenwerk the issue is with the adapter route which everyone seems to be ignoring is - the EF glass won't be made for a long while. It's a dead end, and those lenses will not get their successors, they won't get updated. People who think that Canon's third party lens support over the adapter is comparable to Sony's support are ignoring a simple fact that all of those lens makers are 1) making new lens models which will NEVER release on EF and 2) are actually redesigning and updating all lenses for mirrorless. Sigma reworked their entire line-up for Sony's E-mount, and those lenses are better and oftentimes smaller than their old HSM counterparts. They also released lenses that will never see the light of day on the EF mount (or any DSLR mount) like their smaller, premium build quality f2 lineup. The EF-RF adapter is a very convenient and viable and hassle free solution for anyone already heavily invested into EF, as it will make the transition much easier in the long term. But that's all it is, a tool for transitioning to mirrorless.
We need a mix from canon and sony the perfect hibrid camera ! I have both but an a old canon 6d that's its great and the sony a7lll the only downside in sony it's the screen in all the models even R4 and S3 models.
depending on your needs, the recent Canon cameras fulfill that. :) If you are more video centric, you could pick up the R5C or there is also the new R7 coming out if it should be cheaper.
Hi Alex great video! I used to shoot Sony but swapped to Canon and thought it was worth mentioning the Sony displaying brighter is due to the JPEG preview. If you disable "Dynamic Range Optimizer" then the previews you see will better match the RAW files.
For me Canon is the clear winner! Love the ergonomics, screen and rendering way more! And Sony is more sharp flat 2D and Canon more 3D pop rendering! My last Sony was also the a7r3 ad I didn’t like it compare to the Canon R so I did sell my Sony then. Now I shoot with the R6. What I really want is that Sigma comes with the RF art lenses!
Thanks for the review, esp one that’s focused on photography. Well balanced and honest pros break down. I’m looking to switch from Sony mainly due to the many issues listed with the A7iv and as a pro myself, I can’t take a gamble. Do you know if the old Canon lenses, via adapter, allow camera features like eye autofocus and other benefits that mirrorless new canon lenses have? Thanks again
Anytime, a so-callbprofessional says one camera is way better than next camera says to me he don’t really understand that the lens and the software is just as important as actual body of a camera. he’s a make believe profession. Why didn’t he compare the video? because the canon only can record 30 minutes of 4K video. And that’s in the canon spec sheet.
The Sony screen exposure always brighter than the actual file? That is not what I see with my A74. All I do is just left the screen exposure at default (0), never increase the exposure or change it to Sunny and what you see on the camera is what you see on the actual file.
Sony hands down my favorite. It is really hard to beat the A7iv, esp with its far higher resolution sensor at 33mp, not to mention its vast lens selection.
Crop in 4K - none on the R6? Plus the rear screens are very poor - I regularly show my clients images on the back of my camera. Sonys are very lack luster
@@markshirley01 Actually the difference in the 3 inch rear screens is hardly noticeable. Maybe you should look at one before repeating some of the nonsense some RU-vidrs repeat. The crop in 4k is not that big a deal for most of us, just a few Sony haters. In fact I see plenty of people saying they love the crop. If any camera is lackluster, it is the tired old cannons out there.
Good afternoon Alex, I hope you are well, I thank you very much for your videos, and what is most important and priceless are the raw that you offer us, the same thanks to your wife for lending her image, I am a professional and I came to your videos because I am looking at changing the brand, I was thinking of Canon but it is not certain for some things and even for what you well comment on the objectives without the possibility of choosing, but in your raw I think that for example the eyes are better focused with the Canon In the Sony maybe the tabs, and the photos taken with Canon are also sharper or more in focus, maybe it's just my appreciation, it's a Google translation so I hope it's as I wanted to write, your videos are I see with subtitles, thank you very much
Question: What profile did you use for the Canon files? Seeing as you use Lightroom (which I use too) it does a bad job of recreating the Canon colors. I am happy they at least added native profiles a while ago but while those come closer to the canon colors, its still not perfect. (plus you have to choose between the available ones until finding the correct one)
Forcing oneself into that look just to have "Canon colors" is, for lack of a better word, a bit dumb in the sense that it's incredibly restrictive. That only creates images that look like millions of other images and have no personal stamp on them. I mean I get it for JPEG shooting and anyone requiring really fast turnaround but for anyone interested in editing their work to find their own look, those camera matching profiles will only be a stumbling block.
I have now canon r6 and m50...rf ef efs canon tamron sigma samyang/rokinon lenses without getting rf l series very expensive lenses like Sony g series emount. Sony sigma tamron old lenses and limited lenses unless sony. 24-105 f4 is rf l series canon lens only that I have. I find canon been around longer ease of use good lcd flip screen color science wide selection of lenses with adapter just better than sony.
I’ve owned both and Currently still have my A7iv, I really love my Sony, but as a photographer it falls short in the fast shooting department, I feel myself having to time my shots better chasing my son around the yard playing baseball, it’s not a bad thing but the R6 is a beast. As far as video, I am not happy with the AF at all, but I’m not a big video kind of guy just yet.
The noise just looks like film grain, I'd say not worth applying any noise reduction as grain is just not a big deal. The ugly noise is the color noise, when you get the multicolor prickles!
As someone who’s looking to buy their first camera, mainly for photographing at the moment, this video is really helpful. I’ve watched many comparison videos about these two, but many of them compared a lot about the video functions. U offered very detailed and clear comparisons on the photographing side. Thanks :-)
Well thats because video has started to take over. Look at your social media feeds and Im willing to bet its about 75% video. It pains me to say that as a long time photographer but thats the facts. If you just want a camera for photos, there are much cheaper options than the R6 and the pricey RF glass.
Canon has not caught up in dynamic range, and the mega pixel count does look slightly different. But there are other things it does better. The video features tho, it is 1.5 years older and has lots of issues, no 10 bit outside clog, and no custom settings, no Tv is a big question mark for video shooters.
Just keep going with Canon R series, the only advantage of Sony is lens ecosystem from third party companies while Canon had their EF lens which still works very well through Adapter. What if Canon share the profile to third party companies in the future? Sony’s advantage will be gone. Fairly, the RF’s price is so close to GM’s. Ex: the RF 24-70 is more a hundred bucks than Sony FE 24-70 GM 2, while RF has Image Stabilization which is more valuable than $100
The GM 2 is also a much lighter and smaller lens. I didn't see the benefit of IS in the lens when I had the RF24-70. Body stabilization is more than enough outside of a very specific use. The combined stabilization on Canon was terrible in video as well. Lens "IS" is more important for a 70-200 and Sony has it there. Just depends on what you want really. One system isn't the clear choice for everyone.
Sony‘s terrible display and menus made me choose Canon. My R6 feels great in my hands and is just more fun to use to me. I am annoyed by Canon RF lens prices and their weird cripple moves (no custom video modes, which the R and R5 both have) though. I feel like Canon is the Apple of smartphones, more expensive but easier to use.
Hi Alex, i am from bangladesh, i am canon user, my present camera canon 6d & i want upgrade my device, for wedding photography which camera is good for me pls give me a suggestion r6 or a7iv
I have small hands and I also prefer canon ergonomics way ahead of sony's, not a fan of small cameras or lenses, its just unconfortable to use for me. Its funny I have the brightness display problem you're having with the sony with my r5, images are too bright, and if I reduce the brightness one bar they are too dark and menus too difficult to see on daylight
thanks alot for the great video! the way i see it, canon will be king of mirrorless in the next year, with the r7 and r10, affordable rf-s lenses, the quality they you get is superb! when sigma/tamron and more 3rd party lenses comes to canon, it will be unstopabble company, moved to canon, super happy, super results, super everything ❤
Thx, Alex. I am still torn b/w the 2. I already invested in 2 perfect RF combos L-lenses (15-35 & 85), and I want to stay w/Canon. Problem. I am making more videos than before. Strictly on photos, it’s no brainer to go/Canon. As a hybrid shooter (60% vids/40% photos), I might switch to Sony b/c it has better video features. If I choose Sony, I’d need to sell my Canon gear.
I much prefer my A7IV for video over the R6 I returned. Especially if you want to mess with 10-bit log. Slog 3 files are so much easier on my PC. Even with my 5800X/3080/32GB RAM system, Clog was a nightmare IMO. The quality from the A7IV is phenomenal especially 4K30 full sensor where it is oversampled from 7K.
Great to hear your doing the budget lens review 👍 Im buying a R6 with the 16mm 35mm and 50mm. It isn't just that they are affordable but they are lighter and smaller. It's a shame your not covering video as its so important theses days - but from what I've seen theres little difference between the two cameras except the crop in 60p on the A74.
I would cover video but I am very very green. I feel comfortable talking about photography since I have actually done it professionally for 6+ years. But maybe it’s time….
I have the Canon R6 for almost a year now. It is a great camera. Unfortunately it does not allow 3rd party brands to make RF lenses and this is a reason why I am switching to Sony A7iv.
Hi Alex, Thanks for your review, I am currently a canon Eos 800D user and looking to upgrade, I had been looking at the EOS R but like the extra features the Sony has, as you mentioned the display is brighter, can you not use the brightness control to reduce the brightness of it to make it more representative as the science
Then get the R6 I would say. Better screens, ergonomics, autofocus, connectivity, you can use all your existing EF lenses. Plus one day you might want to get a premium lens and then you will definitely be happy that you are able to choose between the RF lenses. Sony just doesn't have similar ones. Canon really delivered with every lens thy brought out for the system and usually topped the expectations by adding something more (liken bringing out the 24-70 f2.8 but adding IS to it, which people wished for years). Then they also brought out exotic version like the 28-70 f2, which is currently my go to lens for weddings and portraits. There is nothing comparable available on the market. And those lenses are so good, this zoom lens delivers prime quality when shooting wide open at f2 across the range. So I can exclusively use it for basically everything. Or the 70-200, which was a third lighter than others on the market, plus half the size. Considering that 70-200 usually required the whole backpack space, that's a game changer when thinking about taking that with you. I dont know why Sony still adds such crappy screens to their cameras (especially when they did so with the A1). One of their newer ones even doesnt habe a mechanical shutter, which introduces some problems people might not be aware of.
Awesome review Alex! I’m hoping to get my hands on the R6 with the 35mm 2.8 by July🙏🏽 I’m upgrading from a 5DMk2 so definitely looking foraged to the leaps made in mirrorless technology 👍🏽🎬
hello @Alex Barrera. i appreciate the content you put out. i have a very important question for you? why did you retire from wedding photography? do you find this content producing more lucrative or did you just get tired or any other reason? if you have time i'd really love to chat about this... then about the lens selection... we all know that all canon ef lenses (biggest lens selection in the world) work on r6 even better than they worked on dslr so the point about lens selection is really questionable, don't you agree?
Hey man, I spoke about it more in detail in one of my channel update videos. Long story short, I stopped enjoying weddings. I should have mentioned EF glass, adapted it performs even better than before.
The R6 has a magenta cast and isn't quite the same as the R5 in color reproduction. I wasn't blown away by the R6 colors. Both R6 and A7IV require some familiarity with editing their images. Once you do both enough they are equally easy enough to edit IMO.
Alex, i have a question for you regarding the canon R6. With 1/8000, is the photo exactly the same with mechanical shutter mode and electronic first curtain mode? I would appreciate your feedback
@@ABarrera that's true. But it would be interesting to give it a try and then revert it back to mechanical... I tell you that because i had already done that with many r6s and the disappointing result is that the 2 modes give different results and guess what... The mechanical gives the worst... Not equally uniform exposure
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking of getting either of these 2 cameras or the R5, or the C70 primary for filming short films after I save up some money. Switching to Sony might be a cool choice since their lens market are pretty big and cheap, but that means all my Dad's EF lens would be a waste (I primary share cameras with my Dad so yeh), which comes to my conclusion that I'd stay with Canon just for the sake of the EF lens that my Dad already own. He literally has like from the range of 17-40 L to something big like 300mm L Would love some suggestions though about the choice though. I'm currently using my 6d Mark II as the main camera (2 years ago I was using like the 5d Mark I) I do both filmmaking and photography( Lately it's heading towards Cinematography lol) I was wondering if I should invest in R5, R6, or should I just get the C70 since it's a cinema camera? Thanks.
Yeah man, EF glass performs great with any of these cameras. Have you thought of the R5C? Looks to be the ultimate hybrid and do it all camera. I’ll be getting one in soon and hopefully putting out a review 🙌🏼
@@ABarrera Thanks for the suggestion! I'm afraid that in my country (Thailand, heh) Some big camera stores have just opened a Per-order for the R5C a couple of days ago. The price higher than I thought it'd be haha,. It looks like a great all round Hybrid camera though, but with these crazy RF price in my country which is like 3/4 of the Camera's price ehhh, probably not yet. I'll definitely check out your review though, would love to hear your thoughts on this new Canon hybrid camera.
canon has caught up with dynamic range and others, and sony improved with the colors as well. Sony has a bit more third party lens options for mirrorless cameras, unlike canon!
Im also a wedding photographer. Started with the Canon 5D3. Switched to Nikon D750 because they had better low light AF and shadow recovery. I've been studying my switch to mirrorless for years. In cannot easily rent new equipment in my country, so I depend on reviews to make up my mind. I decided to switch to Sony because: -Sony had terrible color science, but since the A7Riv, they have solved that issue. It's fine. -I totally agree with your thoughts about ergonomics. Canon is better, but that doesn't mean Sony is terrible. So again, its fine. -The deal breaker are the lenses and how they affect ergonomics. This is a huge win for Sony. On Canon you either get entry level RF lenses, or you are forced to use massive and expensive RF L lenses, or front heavy adapted EF lenses. -Sony has loads of high quality, light and fast focusing primes. Since the release of the 24mm GM, all their new lenses have been stellar. And third party options have released some cool lenses like the very light 70-180mm 2.8 or the 35-150mm.
@@ABarrera I have a canon m50 and a Sony z v1. I’m looking to buy my first full-frame camera for documentary work. For some reason, I like the ergonomics of the canon better.
As usual Alex, thanks for posting the raws. Allows people to get familiar with the files and see how easy (or hard) they are to get to their liking. BTW, it seems Adobe Raw doesn't handle the newer canon files too well. The colors seem a bit off compared to the Sony's in lightroom. They look "right" in Canon's native DPP. Also, there's a difference in how each of the camera's meter the scene. The Canon's appear a bit darker.
@@ABarrera Yes good call so using the native camera profile in Classic (standard) and lowering the vibrance to -12 I could get it to almost match DPP. Have you found that Canon has slightly changed the skin tone/color rendering between models e.g. 5d series to the eos r, r5, r6 ? I have found there are some differences
@@ABarrera It can and it does. First, make sure you have Live View Display on (on by default). Then, adjust the brightness so it closely matches the actual exposure. If you believe it's too bright, then, darken it. For me, since I shoot stills using the EVF, I keep the LCD on the bright side for when I'm shooting video (or don't feel like crouching or getting on my knees) and the histogram turned on.
Great vid! I’m a portrait photographer and I started with R6 and also got the R5. Add lenses I was invested over $10,000. When the A7iv came out I ended up selling all my canon gear and made the switch to Sony. The cost is way to much for good glass with canon. Even if I use the adapter and use ef is still more pricey than buying a brand new tamron or sigma. Luckily I was the resell market for lenses and cameras for canon is real good and I was able to get most my money back. To be honest other than losing 17 megapixels from the r5 I don’t see a big difference in image quality and dynamic range. Autofocus is great on both however I just found the Sony a little more grippy on the eye. Both camera companies are amazing. To me it depends on what you want. If you are a photographer who is in need of a lot of glass I would recommend Sony. I really don’t see canon opening the RF connection. They make a fortune with the glass. Add how good Tamron (35-150 f2-2.8🤩) is getting with their glass I don’t think they want the competition on their own bodies.
The prices definitely increased for he premium glasses but on the other hand I think they are definitely worth the price. Seeing that Sony charges basically the same for their premium lenses I dont see much difference there. The EF Glases on the other hand a usually cheaper with Canon, at least the last time a colleague wanted to choose between Canon or Sony, all cheaper lenses were around double the price back then. I dont think Canon sees any reason to open their market at they are leading with the lenses and when it comes to premium ones, there is currently no competition. Professional photographers have no problem investing a bit more when they know they get something for their money or especially when its such exotic lenses like the rf 28-70 f2 which positively changes their workflow, and are not available with Sony. Or lenses like the 85 f1.2 which is nearly flawless (and the DS version which is another crazy exotic lens). I think the price is absolutely justified but of course not everyone needs that. For those there are all the EF Glases and third party are indeed starting to come out. The market is still very young so its impressive what they actually managed to put out in such a short time.
Same preset applied and tweaked to match, yet from youtube at least the Canon colours are still better, both skin and your wife's white top, its pure white with the Canon yet has a tint of yellow on the Sony.
I would like to see long exposure in low light test whit Sony A7IV.In my test I used iso 100 , aperture between f8 and f16 and shutter speed was between 10 and 30 sec ot bulb , after that I gey very bad colour banding in the sky which is not good at all... Unfinished not many people speaking about it I would like to see similar test if would like to make a test.
Look I appreciate this video very much , although I do believe the video should be tittled something more along side the lines of why you should go with the canon r6 instead of the Sony IV as I felt your biased more towards cannon as everytime you brought a pro towards Sony like the obvious 33mp vs 20mp you didn’t mention things like print sizes, crop factor as in how much you can crop into a photo, instead you would try show how canon is almost if not is just as good on image quality only but forgetting the rest. ofc its just as good , they’re priced to compete with one another thats why it’s a hard choice but saying things like ofc sony can punch in more but canon is just as good, always bringing cannon to light whenever Sony has a pro but not doing the same when Sony has a con … I love canon and I own 3 of them but you got to say it like it is , like all the extra buttons sony has you didn’t go further into that because it made canon look bad ? People need to know these things so they understand on how much they could potentially be loosing on in terms of customisation if they choose canon in the end. Try to be more unbiased next time and go in the middle if you review this video you’ll see what I mean
I went with Sony because I thought the eye focus would be the best. It was ok until the firmware patch. Now it's just amazing. But the other big reason why I went Sony was the lens selection. It's far more about the glass than the camera..
Yea, Sony opening their mount up to the aftermarket has done great things. Sony also having mirrorless system on the market longer simply means that native lens catalog is second to none.
I’ve had the R6 and have the Sony a7iv and the canon r6 dpaf2 is waaay better especially for bird wildlife photography it makes cheap lenses look sharp. Sonys AF on the other hand always grabs straight lines wires cables instead of the bird right in front. Sony needs to put the A1 AF in this camera just how canon did with the R7
@@SuperiorityQomplex maybe quality control? I use the Sony 200-600 lens worked flawlessly with my a7iii raw 10fps. Now with my a7iv I can’t even open raw files so I shoot jpegs only to get 10fps as well.
@@lewcehjitl3282 I have a pirated copy of photoshop and I found the drivers for the raw files on the Adobe site. I tried linking it here for you but youtube didn't like that and deleted the link.
