Thanks for very nice detailed comparison. I've decided to get an A7iv, I love how the keeper rate from from a burst sequence improved from its predecessor
@@MathieuGasquetMirrorLessons yeah I'm enjoying it sir. But can't feel the actual taste of this camera cause I bought only the kit lens. It took my whole budget, I was planning to buy z6ii at first. I'm saving money for viltrox 85mm. Here in Bangladesh it's affordable for me as a student. I watch u since last year sir. Best of luck...
I notice the α7IV omits the mini-door on the battery door for allowing the cable from a dummy battery to pass through with the battery door closed. Perhaps it was considered a weakness for environmental sealing. In any case, you can use a dummy battery if you don't mind having the battery door open.
Great comparison as always! This is now just enjoyable viewing as I have completely converted to Sony. I used to shoot Canon EOS DSLRs but when mirrorless became better, I went to Sony and have been very happy. Gradually selling all my Canon lenses, some were hard to part with. But since then, have put together a great set of Sony lenses. At this point, even if the Canon were a little better, my investment is too great into the Sony system to switch again. They're both leaders in the industry and they will keep pushing each other so that both user bases win. All good !
Excellent I was on the fence I just sold my A9 today and was thinking about the R6 I currently still have the A7riv and more Sony lenses since I sold my last Canon about 4 years ago and I just have 2 Canon lenses left the 70/200 2.8 and the 16/35 2.8 which I use with the Sony. So in conclusion I'm going to get a A7iv and continue to use my stable of Sony with the remaining Canon lenses.
I borrowed a Sony a9ii with all big pro Sony lenses .....vs my 1dxii It was cool to see what I was focusing on in Sony but I almost.brooe several buttons in the first 3 hours Canon makes a better build vs Sony it makes a difference. Also no one liked the Sony colors vs Canon sooc Sony lenses were light as f even 400 2.8 if Canon would stop incremental updates and crippling all cams except whatever is 6 grand at the moment . Canon needs bsi stacked in a 2500 camera with that knobby 1dxiii AF joystick killer
Nice review, well done. I think these tests show the R6 to be the better camera body. However, if I had to build a FF system now, I would go Sony because of drastic difference in glass options.
glass options doesn't also mean "glass/performance reliability" in terms of AF and speed. 3rd Party lenses will always suffer on this note since they weren't directly developed by the maker of the body and that makes a big difference about the real-world reliability of how seamless your shooting sessions will be, especially with moving subjects. I used to work with Sigma ART, Tamrons, etc. on my past 1DX MkII, 5dMkIV, etc. along with my native EF L glass and i just had enough at some point when i got to notice how i needed 3-4 shots with the 3rd party lenses in order to fully guarantee that one shot will be in focus and usable. Working with native Canon glass not only made my shooting more seamless and less nerve wrenching, but it also saved me time and i could afford more gigs and not run against deadlines when dealing with the editing and post-production side of a gig. I fully believe that if a photographer is quite ahead with his clientele and earns a healthy income out of his business, every time-saving improvement that comes at no quality compromise will always make sense. I'm dropping 30.000$ on a whole RF system consisting of R3 + R5C and most RF L lens that are currently available. It might be a lot of money for some, but for me sticking with Canon's best on a Canon body is the symbol of reliability and efficiency.
WOW thank you Mathieu! Your review was impressively thorough. Thank you for adding a low light AF comparison. I feel safe investing on Sony for wedding work. For me, the lenses make a huge difference. Sony has all the primes I could want, while keeping a lightweight setup. If I were to choose Canon, Im forced to adapt bulky EF lenses that make the setup front heavy. Thanks again for your hard work.
I would like to see some long exposure with sony a7IV .In my test I get colour banding in long exposure. My settings is. ISO 100 aperture between F8 and F16 ( I use Sony 35 mm 1.4) Keep in mind these issues can be fixed in Photoshop ,but I would like to not see any colour banding in the camera
What's interesting is that Alex Berrera has both and did side by side comparisons using similar lenses for both. I downloaded the raws and when I uprez to matching MP in Camera Raw, the R6 is actually sharper than the A7IV in most cases. Maybe it has a weaker AA filter, but definitely the 33 MP of the A7IV is not really an advantage as I'd thought. Also the R6 has lower noise at higher ISOs.
Mathieu adoro le tue recensioni e comparazioni perché sono pratiche e toccano gli aspetti fondamentali e reali che interessano un fotografo nella scelta, incluso per esempio la grandezza dei file e i colori che il sensore restituisce. Fotograficamente se avessi i soldi probabilmente sceglierei la Canon r6 rispetto alla a7 IV ma effettivamente diventa tutto molto dispendioso soprattutto nella scelta delle lenti soprattutto se non si possiede già un corredo ef.
it is not possible to comparise with different lenses. That is why the exposures are not comparable too. Same F does not mean the same transmission. So, it is needed to use like an EF canon lenses with adapters for both.
There might be some difference in light transmission, but I had the same findings using more than 1 set of lenses. Also, using native lenses for each camera reflects better the difference in the real world where photographers will more likely use Sony lenses with Sony bodies and Canon lenses with Canon bodies. What’s funny is that a few years ago I did a comparison using the same Sigma lens with adapters for the Z7 and A7R III, and somebody said I should have used two native lenses instead. No matter what you do, there will be always somebody that has something to criticize 😉
Yea exactly, I felt like my r6 couldn't catch up with 7iv (now that I ordered r6 ii, will definitely see better results), maybe due to the recent firmware update??
If I were to invest in Sony A74 now, and I did not want to go with Sony lenses, what are the best third party zoom lenses would you recommend if I wanted to cover the full range from ultra wide angle (14mm or so) to telephoto at 200mm. I need f2.8. I am asking this question because AFAIK Tamron and Sigma do not offer E mount lenses with image stabilisation which is important for me. Before someone points it out, yes I know that OIS isn’t necessary and that we have all been shooting pics without OIS all this time. But the thing is that OIS is part of the constant forward march of tech and I don’t see any reason to not have it. If I don’t need it, I can turn it off. But where it would be useful, I can’t magically conjure it up if the lens does not have it in the first place. I also understand that the Sony A74 does have IBIS. But having OIS on top of IBIS can only work to my advantage when I am handholding in low light. Let’s face it; 90% of us are fazy lucks who don’t want to be bothered with unwieldy tripods as we run and gun with the camera. P. S. OIS is the single biggest reason why I am tempted to swallow it and just pay up for the Canon RF lenses. Their trinity of zooms all have OIS.
I can't see any third-party lenses for E-mount that have OIS between 14mm and 70mm-ish, not even Sony. They seem to put OIS on telephoto lenses mainly. Maybe if you look at the EF-mount or F-mount catalogues, and use an adapter, but there can be compromises in AF speed etc. depending on the specific lens and adapter.
I Matthieu the new A7iv seems to have a far better menu than the A7iii. Do you know if there is a manner to update the Sony A7iii to give it a A7iv look or Sony just concentrâtes on buyers of new series and doesn’t t consider their previous buyers ?
I'm not aware of any trick to update the A7 III with the same menu as the A7 IV. It's not the kind of things Sony does. (To be fair I don't recall any brand updating a camera with a brand new menu, although I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to do so).
@@MathieuGasquetMirrorLessons Thx for your answer. I just wanted to know if I missed something. I agree with you it s certainly possible to do (pure software) and a good opportunity for them with all the huge volume of A7iii they sold to say : you dreamt of it , Sony did it :). But they probably earn money enough to not listen to their buyers :(
Another great video. Practical and detailed, thanks. In the Birds in Flight mirrorless ranking review and settings used did you use the A7iv in electronic or mechanical shutter? Thank you.
Hi Mathieu Great video, as always! I've been looking for a while now to find some info on the Animal Eye AF implementation of different systems. I can't think of anyone better suited to compare them than you since you've been testing them all lately :D What's your opinion on the differences in Animal Eye AF between Canon (R3/R5/R6), Sony (A1/A7iv), Nikon (Z9) and OM-System (OM-1)? Is there any major advantage from one against the other? I'm especially looking for implementation and how you can easily overwrite for example when it fails. I think all 4 are fast and sticky enough to capture great pictures by now? Thanks for sharing your experience here!
Hi Elias First of all, I have not tested the R3 and Z9 yet, so I can't comment on those. Sony's strong point is the real-time tracking mode. If the bird is not detected, it will track the animal with the same precision and keeper rate, so there are very few chances of the camera failing completely. It only detects the eye, not the body or head, and it seems a bit less capable of detecting small birds in the frame (aka more distant from you). OM does a great job with small and large birds in the frame, and can detect different parts of them (body, head, eye). If it fails (which is very rare), you can't rely on AF Tracking however. Canon is perhaps the one that has the best system because A) it is really good at detecting different parts of the bird (body, head and eye), B) it can detect small birds in the frame (far away) as well as those closer to you (like the OM-1), C) you don't have to select 'birds' in the menu, once Animal AF is activated, the camera knows what to do. The Canon also have a very good AF Tracking mode, so if the bird is not detected, Tracking will provide good results. But in each case, it's a matter of knowing the camera, pick the right setting and all of them can give you vert good results.
@@MathieuGasquetMirrorLessons Thank you Mathieu, very informative answer. I suppose your comments on the birds also applies to mammals, but you might not have tested this (or at least not to the same extent)? I've been using a Nikon Z50 for a while now with getting good enough results for wildlife, but the compositional freedom (and I'm not gonna lie, focus reliability) offered by Animal Eye AF in the Canon/Sony models is pulling me towards them. Z9 looks great, but Nikon seems to be very quiet on new, more affordable models so my patience is slowly running out. Good to know all of those are very useable! (From my personal experience, the Z50 has a very basic Animal Eye AF but its very much useless for what I do).
Some things are not easy to describe or even understand my self. My Canon gear (and Fuji for that matter) makes me want to use the camera more than my Sonys. Some are just suited better for me I guess.
if sony had an 800 f11 lens like canon it would be a tougher decision for me but since they don't I would rather have an r6 with the 800 f11 for birding
@@alphaandomega2709 I disagree about that. Ive never had a camera with better dynamic range than my r6. However I would still recommend the r5 for the extra megapixels. I see pixels before noise or unsharpness of the lens even on a cheap lens. This means there is not much room or reason to buy better lenses compared to the r5. 20mp is just not enough.
Ok. Alright. After watching this video, I can definitely say that Canon is a more sophisticated, more professional system by far. Even the color science is more pleasing to the eye than that of Sony. I am now re-thinking my a7IV pre-order...
I do a lot of sports and low light dance photography, which requires high FPS. In that situation, the Canon is the clear winner. No way I could downgrade to the Sony FPS performance from what I have with the Canon. That said, I would love if Canon would offer third-party lens support.....someday I hope.
The Canon simply isn’t in the same league as the Sony with its 33 mp sensor. I compared the two camera and it was an easy decision to purchase the Sony with its better features and eco system.
Well I just tried to open a R6 heif file with Lightroom (latest version) and it doesn't recognise it, same with Photoshop. Perhaps you can tell me how you import yours.
Je suis très étonné des résultats de l'AF du Sony. Mon expérience sur de la course à pied par temps couvert, 70 200 GM 2 à 3.2, est de 30 % en reconnaissance automatique zone large. Mes meilleurs résultats sont en spot adaptatif, 6 im/s, autour de 70%. Je rêve d'atteindre les 90% à 10 im/s !
Well done! Very informative! I heard that with the Sony A7IV, if you turn off the EFCS and shoot lossless raw, the frame rate drops to 4FPS. Is that the case? I often shoot with the EFCS turned off because if the shutter speed is too high, the bokeh can be dramatically affected by EFCS.
@@MathieuGasquetMirrorLessons One more question to bother you. When you did this test, was it in continuous Hi+ or Hi mode? If it was in Hi+ mode, was the EVF "blackout-free but without live feed" or "live feed but with blackout"? I'm asking this because I'm used to shoot lossless with EFCS off and EVF live feed on (with blackout). In this case, is it able to get 6FPS? Thanks a lot, again~
The Buffer test was with Hi+. With Hi+, it's 'blackout-free but without live view', even if you select Lossless Compressed RAW and the speed drops to 6fps. With Hi or lower, it's 'live view with blackouts'. So It's better to choose this setting. The speed will drop to 6fps with Lossless, but you get live view and blackouts.
