Sort Of Carbon Rims... But Not...Revel Fusion-Fiber... WHAT!?

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Revel bikes, the same company that brought you the Rascal and Rail have just released a new form of mountain bike wheels. Introducing...the Fusion-Fiber RW30 rims! They are not aluminum, not carbon fiber, think of it as more advanced nylon but on an entirely new level. Even better, this new Revel wheelset is 100% recyclable and completely made in the USA. The material they are made of isn't the only amazing thing about them, the MTB wheels were developed in one of the world's leading aerospace facilities using robots. Yes, that's right, these wheels are made by machines! Sure, all of this sounds incredible, but how do they ride? Although we only have a few weeks on them, Jeff and Liam are here to share their first impressions. Let's check it out!
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@WorldwideCyclery 4 года назад

Thoughts on the new Revel Fusion Fiber wheels? If price wasn't a factor, would you run them on your bike?

@nathangaffran 4 года назад

I'd love to try these out but there's no way I could afford it.

@TheDennisRobb 4 года назад

Worldwide Cyclery if price wasn’t a factor that would be a yes, boss.

@pin3appl3man 4 года назад

@@nathangaffran think of all the dumb shit we waste money on already. Booze, eating out, shenanigans. They're more affordable than you think. With that being said, I too won't be buying them 😆 maybe in a few years when other companies hop on board and create some competition.

@jimtoffo4246 4 года назад

Hell yeah

@175thStreet 4 года назад

They aren't "cheap" but I absolutely love the innovation and environmental aspect here. Incredible work Revel! I will be eyeing this upgrade for sure.

@leoperez5003 4 года назад

This is great, any product that is enviroment friendly is very welcome. That´s why i will stick on my alloy wheels which are also recyclable and way cheaper than this.

@Upforthejourney 4 года назад

That price is insane.

@dac518 4 года назад

My first thoughts exactly... isnt aluminum recyclable, or have I been throwing away my beer cans in the wrong bin?

@johnsonjay60 3 года назад

Alloy over carbon all day for me

@johnsonjay60 3 года назад

Wait these come with i9 hydras? Price makes more sense.

@siayourcannaguy6106 4 года назад

Cheaper to make but more expensive for the consumer to buy 😂

@bumblebeeyaj9375 4 года назад

I cant wait when they start using materials like that on bike frame

@josephcuster2603 4 года назад

Guerrilla Gravity already does

@11leonidas11 4 года назад

These rims do not use epoxy. GG does. Quite a bit different.

@bumblebeeyaj9375 4 года назад

@@11leonidas11 oh really? You make frames?

@josephcuster2603 4 года назад

@@11leonidas11 GG uses thermoplastic to make their carbon frames. not epoxy

@crikmtb5338 4 года назад

Yeah it’ll snap

@tayruot 4 года назад

These are sick! Just what I need for my city bike to ride more quietly on the trails.

@cheut 4 года назад

can't wait for a nylon based frame. Id be interested as well in a team up with someone like arbor who uses a bio based resin for their snowboards, although I don't know the difference between resin and epoxy, especially in terms of strength

@MaplePanda04 4 года назад

Epoxy is a type of resin. It all just describes the “glue” they are using to hold the fibres together.

@MacGyverDad 3 года назад

Bio resin is only marginally better than standard epoxies in terms of being “green” but it’s a step in a positive direction. With high performance epoxy resins, the hardener is still corrosive and considered hazardous, and the resin side usually is a blend of bio and petrochemical raw materials. There are less hazardous bio epoxies for art pieces and table top coatings, but they are not making bike parts from it because the physical properties suck. And yes, I work in the industry.

@ethandeyhle261 4 года назад

I think an interesting video to make down the line would be a couple ways that we all can be more green/ eco friendly cyclist

@airtaiH2 4 года назад

Producing carbon fiber from petroleum is a far better use of the petrol than making toxic gasoline or deadly DIEsel from it.

@joshallen4891 4 года назад

wonder if bike frames will go to this process?

@adambrookens5459 4 года назад

Plastic bike frames don't sound good.

@joshallen4891 4 года назад

@@adambrookens5459 thats what carbon is...it obviously wouldnt be called plastic

@sylvainrousseau3349 4 года назад

Make wheels durable.we won’t have to recycle them

@m1chaelsc 4 года назад

This is the kind of stuff we need!

@downhilljedi 4 года назад

Only if it wasn't stupid expensive.

@m1chaelsc 4 года назад

Member Berries prices will drop over time but the environmental aspect is what I’m excited about. They are very expensive when you can get a set of reserves for less.

@downhilljedi 4 года назад

@@m1chaelsc by the time they are reasonable i won't be able to ride a bike

@woogieboogie6487 4 года назад

I thought plastic (nylon) was the enemy? 🤔

@wheeliemachine626 4 года назад

I don’t know why but I suddenly want a giveaway 🤔

@faultlinegravel 4 года назад

Cool but a wheel set above $2k is not cool. Make MTB'ing affordable!

@laurynasjagelo5075 4 года назад

Buy cheaper aluminum set?

@faultlinegravel 4 года назад

Laurynas Jagelo you. I like carbon

@marshallferron 4 года назад

Hey man people throwing away $2k on wheelsets is how we get cool new stuff that eventually trickles down to us poor folk. If everyone just bought the most affordable stuff we'd still be riding on steel rims and hi ten frames.

@cadevenner7602 4 года назад

Can't wait to try these!

@Byrnzy 4 года назад

New studio looks nice good job fellas🤙

@devincook3278 4 года назад

Innovation! I love it!

@xzy_n6827 4 года назад

YOOOO, this is SICK!

@10gramov 4 года назад

what are those glasses Liam is wearing???

@mazescopak405 4 года назад

Brand is GT-LIW

@garydecker3281 4 года назад

Wow!! Awesome!!

@headoverbars8750 4 года назад

Makes Sense!! I mean composites are a huge industry and carbon fiber cannot be the end all be all we have yet to work with nanotube technology... I mean if we can, I'm not going to profess to know;)... just that carbon fiber shouldn't be the only composite we explore for large structural components like frames and fork lowers etc. Hell Yes!

@Gamingoodz 4 года назад

This actually makes a lot of sense material-wise for performance as well. The nylon I think is a bit more compliant than the epoxy that would usually bond the carbon and less likely to crack on impacts. Pedals are made from nylon and lots of things made from fibre-reinforced nylons that are intended for hard abuse. Seems like it was a no brainer to try it out on wheels

@martinhayes5087 4 года назад

Yes! finally a step forward against carbon! ❤️

@nightspirits5608 4 года назад

imagine the cost . It can be recycled , but alloy wheels also can be recycled so im sticking with the alloy ones . Plus they would be cheaper

@martinhayes5087 4 года назад

@@nightspirits5608 I 100% agree, I'll also be staying alloy, but for those who wish for the light weight advantage, this is a much better option for the environment :)

@kennethmorton7671 4 года назад

This isn't a step against Carbon, it's an evolution of it.

@nightspirits5608 4 года назад

@@martinhayes5087 why does everyone try to make their bike lighter when they can just go to the gym more and get stronger . Like 300 grams wonts slow u down bruh

@jarnozondag694 4 года назад

@@nightspirits5608 I think carbon wheel are aimed more at performance seeking athletes or dentists. If you're a bit chubby and just enjoy riding without any form of competition/racing yeah alloy is better for you.

@AW794 4 года назад

Jeff - “I like my bikes quiet, I’m always paying attention to sound”……… Also Jeff - runs the loudest hub possible 😂

@seanhornchek6440 4 года назад

different sounds tho, car manufacturers make exhausts sound good but work to prevent cabin rattles.

@AW794 4 года назад

Sean Hornchek understood, I was just giving Jeff a hard time

@175thStreet 4 года назад

😂 True! But I think he means quiet from bad noises like creakes and loud from beautiful sounds like an I9 hub.

@bicycle101 4 года назад

So it IS a carbon fiber rim but cured with “special nylon” instead of epoxy?

@charliehornbeck4595 4 года назад

What in the world?

@thelongestnameinthecomment9677 4 года назад

Does anyone else hope that they don't copyright this

@175thStreet 4 года назад

This is amazing! So true that carbon is really not the best for the environment. This is a huge step forward in the bike industry. Incredible work Revel! And perfecto video as always WC 👍👍

@chrissinclair3136 4 года назад

recyclable carbon...im in

@eliotwolfert8488 4 года назад

a needed innovation

@a.wolfgang6423 4 года назад

1:53 Pole Bicycles

@brianhely3910 4 года назад

Awesome, thanks for this great video, funny, and informative, I'd buy em

@BombayBoywhoPedals 4 года назад

Top 5 Cycling Podcasts 2020 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W3bl1GSijYw.html

@TAZMON20 4 года назад

Great to see that here in the UK we now have a Revel Distributor, I'm looking to add another bike to what I already have, Revel is most definitely a firm consideration along with their wheels.

@Jamie6029 4 года назад

Industry 9 has lighter aluminum wheels and rims for alot less money

@Antweak83 4 года назад

Sick!..... plastic wheels!

@theweez510 4 года назад

A little out of my price range but am excited for the future of this material. Glad there is a way to finally recycle carbon.

@ronaldharris6569 4 года назад

More overpriced Unobtainium

@b-manz 4 года назад

You need a better job

@robertbutts2269 4 года назад

I just purchased a 2019 Pivot 429 and am considering upgrading wheel sett GT Swiss m1900 to carbon wheels...Bottom line would you recommend purchasing the Revel wheel set or other brand for similar money; example Next Cycling Huck 29 wheel set

@antoanangelov5672 4 года назад

I just want heavy-duty compliant rims Bike industry: stiffer is better bitch.

@WolfPawArmoury 4 года назад

Damn... Even the We Are One costs more than my rent.

@hoooboooy 3 года назад

Quick note, when you order a frame or complete bike you can score these for $1,699. Recently ordered a Rascal frame and added some. June arrival can't come soon enough ;)

@TrailPOV 4 года назад

I truly applaud these guys for thinking outside the box, not using epoxy and still getting everything to hold together nicely. Great material engineering for sure!!

@emtbtrailrider539 4 года назад

Revel needs to make #eMTB, this sounds awesome 👏 though

@anonomous2221 4 года назад

Actually these rims are made of thermoplastic composite which uses carbon fiber embedded in nylon. Thermoplastic has been around for for years but not used as often as resin carbon fiber composite. GT bikes made thermoplastic bikes during the 90s. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7tnniDO11iI.html

@Chris_dolmeth 4 года назад

They cost as much as a beginner hardtail mtb. But I dont think these are aimed for beginners. Cool wheels though.

@michaelcleveland3881 3 года назад

Stans Flow CB7 are lighter and less expensive. No reason for me to change now but will keep these in mind for the future.

@LuisManuelHdez Год назад

Too expensive.. We have too much of that in the industry already!

@iliyadavoodipour258 3 года назад

These rimms seem to be really nice, but seriously, its just fancy stuff you dont need as long as it costs way more then alloy rimms. I have a set of newmen alloy rimms and they are as strong as a 1950g rim set, while they only weigh 1760g.

@th_js 4 года назад

Great video! Interesting music choices.. 🤔

@christiansmyth1466 4 года назад

"recyclability" on the face of it is a red herring. as an example, most (all?) plastic is recyclable, but some kinds aren't exactly easy to recycle and so waste plastics of those kinds end up going to collection centers, being made into big cubes of plastic refuse, and then sent off to wherever they can be dumped. not to mention that any recycling process can itself produce pollution, and may even fail to be able to reclaim most of the material that is recycled. i'd like to know where one of these wheels can be taken /right now/ to be recycled, what the side-effects are, and how much of each wheel actually gets recycled, grams in vs. grams out.

@jonathanvasquez9604 4 года назад

Wishlist after this RF ARC31 carbon rims.

@jubalvw3302 3 года назад

So according to that chart We Are One seems to be the best bang for your buck and almost the lightest?

@NoBrakes23 4 года назад

US made? Cheaper than Enve, and not punishing like Enve? Recyclable? I have to get these on a demo.

@WorldwideCyclery 4 года назад

Hell yeah! Hopefully some we'll have them available for demo in our shops and possiblyyyyy even able to ship a set a set for demo. Stay tuned.

@tdmjfountain 4 года назад

I would like the price to come down. I read the blog and I appreciate that they can recycle the rim but it also states that they cut the time down significantly without any finish work. Labor is way less and they use robots. The manufacturer is in no way solely dependent on making rims for Revel so why are they priced so high? I understand R&D but man $1400 for 2 rims seems steep. I guess it’s the economy of scale thingy. I just want carbon rims but man are they expensive. Thanks for your videos you guys do a great job.

@binkzera2777 4 года назад

Still cheaper than ENVE

@quinncolby 4 года назад

My carbon bikes and wheels will never go to the landfill.

@sripavanv 3 года назад

Nice to see some one mentioning carbon and how it’s bad for environment.

@f.b.i.5580 3 года назад

*something different but kinda the same*

@hardmtnbiker 4 года назад

They look amazing, I’m set on MTB wheel sets but I’m looking to build a 650b set for my gravel rig. I like standard 32 spoke hubs/rims 3x lacing. I also like to see that they have a bead interface for the tires. The others carbon rims seem to omit that.

@theforruner117 4 года назад

Yo but what's the intro song tho?

@GaryHebert 4 года назад

So it's been 7 months...where's the long term review guys? First impressions on a brand new product are nice, but not really enough for me (or most people) to base a $2,000 purchase on.

@joewas2225 3 года назад

7 months is not long enough for a long term review.

@Happy_Biker 4 года назад

Jeff for President 2020! Revel Bikes and Wheels for everyone! 🇺🇸 F-yeah!

@The.JZA. 4 года назад

Nice to see advancements in the mountain biking materials technology. I don’t know if it is exactly the same but Magura has been making Carbotecture brake level bodies for a few years and I believe they are made of a polymer material with embedded carbon fibres. It sounds like a similar material.

@endebtedone 4 года назад

are they introducing this "fusion-fiber" into frames since the cost seems to be lower and the benefits are higher due to being able to recycle the carbon?

@WorldwideCyclery 4 года назад

In the future that is the plan! But the manufacturing process is so vastly different it could be several years before frames are produced.

@indorider 4 года назад

Alloy all the way...

@trailblazeratv6306 4 года назад

But is it Rev’ed ?

@jeffreydzialo 4 года назад

I'm curious what the net effect would be, on the environment, if you factor in the impact of shipping and material loss in the recycling process.

@shunkadelic 4 года назад

I’m super stoked on these wheels and CANT wait to add them to my Rascal! Thanks for the vid! Revel rules!

@b.r.3232 4 года назад

SWEEET!!! I'm looking at a new set of wheels, and I am goin to seriously consider these wheels. I love the concept, design and materials. This is going to be awesome!!!

@AvinaashKuppusamy 4 года назад

Question, how is the rim recycled if it was damaged to the point of being un-ride-able? Does Revel fix those rims with their new tech or does the undamaged parts of the Carbon be reused in other parts in the future? EDIT: read the blog and it said this "If a rim is broken, Revel will send out a loaner rim while you ship your wheel back, it gets rebuilt and then you get the rebuilt wheel back for more riding and abuse. Then that broken rim is recycled and repurposed." So does this mean they take out the broken part or "fragments" and put in new ones or a new wheel is sent?

@bikerdhill 4 года назад

never even dawned on me that carbon frames, and components were non-environmentally friendly, makes sense because of the epoxy. It's great to see a company doing something about it, and coming up with recyclable carbon

@RCKING1 4 года назад

You forgot nobl

@jeepcherokeeguy5742 4 года назад

I think it's something the bike industry needed to see especially environmentally friendly rims. I also like the fact if you mess up the rims they're going to be recycled and not thrown in a landfill as you stated. I also believe if more companies go towards something like this we might actually see more people come to mountain biking and cycling altogether.

@bluestraycat 4 года назад

Really stoked about this new tech! Quite a bit lighter than traditional carbon too. It's so good that the material is recyclable, I hope we will see full frames made from this stuff in the near future

@mrnick4205 4 года назад

Great rims - Though carbon reeking has been going on a good while now in Europe and is mainly handled by a company in Germany ... a good percentage is already recycled to that is not strictly true !!

@mymorristribe 4 года назад

meh, at those premium prices, it's a gimmick not an "advancement"

@jonathanvasquez9604 4 года назад

Wow! I hope it's way affordable than real carbon rims.

@HenleyHenderson 4 года назад

Revel's Recyclable Robo Rims Interesting....

@maaduece5132 4 года назад

The way I think of it is if you has a 1mm thick sheet of epoxy vs a 1 mm sheet of nylon . The nylon is a softer composite material with a little more compliance

@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567 4 года назад

I use specialized hardrock stout 29er alloy

@johndef5075 4 года назад

There used to be nylon bmx wheels called Tuff Wheels i think.

@kez2252 4 года назад

Too narrow for my tastes (bummer), but dig the innovation

@Manuel-en9pr 4 года назад

Awesome stuff. What’s the weight of a complete wheel set with spokes and hubs?

@furion.. 4 года назад

Give a set to Danny MacAskill and tell him to remove the tires and go ride some stairs.

@finnsteele8305 4 года назад

Baller

@dasanoneia4730 4 года назад

Nice really interesting i would love to see the process of making them there does not seem to be any info on the fusion fiber process that i can find

@nc_mtbmedic1399 4 года назад

Its like glock of the bike world.....love it

@mortlow6688 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@Bob_Shy_132 4 года назад

Soooooo. They're made from recycled combs?

@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567 4 года назад

Oh no I had to put a sram chain on a shimano groupset.🤯

@mellissanash7517 4 года назад

Does it come in a wider size, like 35i?

@jared_erickson 4 года назад

Wow I can't wait to try these!!

@copperwolf8792 4 года назад

What’s that intro song?

@WorldwideCyclery 4 года назад

elements.envato.com/powerful-beat-abstract-hip-hop-YHS9ABW

@copperwolf8792 4 года назад

Worldwide Cyclery thank you!

@josephcuster2603 4 года назад

Thermostatic reinforced with carbon fiber. Guerrilla Gravity started this with their frames last year. Pretty cool. This tech should get more popular and the price should go down. Looking forward to that happening soon. I'd run these rims.

@TheMediocreMountainBiker 4 года назад

You had me until $700/rim. 😳

@rampagerentalrepair 4 года назад

The Mediocre Mountain Biker Good products aren’t cheap and cheap products aren’t good. $1400 for a good wheelset isn’t a bad price at all!! Get educated

@MrScart35 4 года назад

Dylan Fosselman Set of rims not wheelset. Get educated.

@TheMediocreMountainBiker 4 года назад

The video says $1975-$2200. I already have a great NOX Farlow/i9 wheelset that was built a few years ago. I understand new technologies are going to cost more and have great benefits - but if I had to buy a new wheelset today, this product is solidly out of my reach.

@rampagerentalrepair 4 года назад

MrScart35 You got me there lmao

@Domabbott 4 года назад

PIng Ping PIng

@d0u6s 4 года назад

" New" usually means "higher price" ... so, we'll see if the $700 comes down and the durability goes up ✔️

@MissingLinkMTB 4 года назад

lol, I always get a chuckle out of people who are "environment" freaks when I see their carbon bikes. At that price though, I'll still be riding my aluminum rims.