SOUND Difference Fiddle VS Nyckelharpa

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These two look different, but sound quite similar... or do they ? 5 tips to train your ears to differentiate between violin/fiddle and nyckelharpa !
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I'm Emelie Waldken, I play Scandinavian folk music on nyckelharpa and fiddles, and I teach folk music and dancing.
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Nyckelharpa & bow by Jean-Claude Condi, Mirecourt, France.
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Recorded August 2023 in Uppland, Sweden.
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@toddpj2166 10 месяцев назад

As a fiddle player, I love all string instruments and the different sounds different players can produce. To me the haunting renaissance sound of a Nyckelharpa is beautiful!

@cafiend 10 месяцев назад

Nyckelharpa sounds like it brings its own room with it.

@nichotime 8 месяцев назад

Your "Trollposka" on nyckelharpa! Just that quick take was wonderful, subtle and expressive. Thanks 4 all your goodness. Nyckeharpa can do so many things that no other instrument can hope to!

@janettehill8544 10 месяцев назад

Great explanation of the various nuances, of the fiddle versus the Nyckelharpa. The resonance of the nyckelharpa is usually a dead giveaway, but sometimes it sounds very much like a fiddle.

@johnbeans2000 10 месяцев назад

Tackar för förklaringen.

@RockStarOscarStern634 8 месяцев назад

The Nyckelharpa uses a Viola tuning but it has an Elongated Body to help the Low C String speak more clearly

@blakejohnson7109 6 месяцев назад

My grandfather was a Swedish folk musician and fiddle maker. He made me a half size nikkleharpa. I still have it.

@berniezz 2 месяца назад

Vos explications sont excellentes et m'ont beaucoup appris ; merci.

@EmelieWaldken 2 месяца назад

Ravie de l'entendre !

@IsaacKuo 10 месяцев назад

Some crazy person will play pizzicato by reaching over the top of the instrument to pull the keys by the tangents. This means their thumb and/or other fingers can pluck strings.

@LabhriunnMaciain 7 месяцев назад

I play fiddle and when I first heard this amazing instrument I thought it was a herdy-gerdy, then when I saw it I was reminded of the herdy-gerdy without a cover.

@tim5cad203 10 месяцев назад

Never be able to tell which I liked better. But then again I have always been a fan of the stringed instruments. You have made another beautiful video Emelie.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Same here, I can't choose. I love both =)

@javi9038 10 месяцев назад

¡Hoy esta usted bellamente vestida! Tenia que decirlo. En cuanto al tema del video, me parecio super educativo. Eres una gran profesora ; )

@theservant752 10 месяцев назад

Det var en intressant video.

@RockStarOscarStern634 8 месяцев назад

Schindler's list theme would sound great on Nyckelharpa

@seriksson9721 10 месяцев назад

Nyckelharpan med resonanssträngar av samma typ som låtfiol och Hardangerfela.En jämförelse N.H mot de båda hade också varit spännande. Trevlig kanal.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Bra idé, tack =)

@RockStarOscarStern634 9 месяцев назад

The Nyckelharpa is easier to play in tune than a Violin because the Keys add precision to the finger placement.

@pagophilus 7 месяцев назад

Yes, but it's difficult to ensure each key is perfectly in tune, so finger pressure adjustment is needed also.

@GoodEnoughVenson_sigueacristo 10 месяцев назад

Interesting. Aside from resonance, the sound texture jumped out at me much more than the other techniques. Maybe it seems clear to me because I play both violin and viola, and while much more similar than the comparison shown here, those two instruments are still fairly easy for me to tell apart. The heavier strings vibrate differently, even when tuned to the same pitch.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Yes it's the case for me too. Similar with cello playing up in the register, I can always tell it's a cello and not a viola or violin.

@LeChatViolet 10 месяцев назад

Strangely my viola's D string resonates for almost the same as the nyckelharpa, whereas the rest don't. And my D string is a cheap secondhand string I used to replace the old one when it broke and I didn't have anything else to replace it with. It just rings on forever, but it's a lot more noticeable when I'm amped up.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

It has to do with the other strings and mostly with your instrument itself. Each instrument (the body of it) has its note, and yours' seems to be D. It could be fixed by a luthier quite easily I believe, if you explain the problem. Basically the instrument has to be slightly modified (nothing visible nor damaging) to change its natural pitch, and then the D should behave normally =)

@unterwasserbeatboxer 9 месяцев назад

Love your videos! Nice sounds from the microphones! Are these Neumanns?

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Yep, the music recordings in this video were done with my pair of Neumanns.

@michaelbishop. 10 месяцев назад

Which one causes more physical stress, combination of different left and right hand positions?

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Nyckelharpa is notoriously demanding for the body. Well, violin is too, in its own way. Some bodies will have an easier time with one over the other, while for other people it will be reversed. Violin demands more strength from the left fingers and to keep the violin up, while nyckelharpa demands an unnatural extension of that arm. Bowing on violin has bigger movements but on nyckelharpa you need to counteract the pressure of the tailpiece against your right arm. The biggest difference to me though is the fact that nyckelharpa is much heavier and carried around the neck/on a shoulder.

@Neyvermore 10 месяцев назад

What you're saying about reverb is interesting, because reverb shouldn't be added just to... add reverb. It's a tool to reproduce a setting, a space. So you CAN put reverb on a nyckelharpa, especially if you want it to fit with the rest of the things you're recording. But you'll need good settings for it.

@janettehill8544 10 месяцев назад

Reverb could also be added if recording digitally. That way you could add or not and experiment with what sort of space you're trying to reproduce.

@Joshua-oo9hy 10 месяцев назад

I was thinking the Nyckelharpa sounded closer to viola then violin. Then you talked about the tuning, and yep, its tuned like a viola. Thank you for sharing. I find old folk string instrument fascinating. Just out of curiosity, can Nyckelharp play harmonics?

@macleadg 10 месяцев назад

Every other string instrument is capable of harmonics, so I think it’s almost 100% this instrument can, too.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Of course it can =)

@SpintressStation 9 месяцев назад

Do you have different Nyckelharpa models? I know there are Soprano, Tenor, Alto, and cello nyckelharpa and would love to see them all being played to show the difference between the ranges for each instrument. What model are you playing in this video?

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

I have a quite "standard" model, or equivalent to alto violin (ADGC is my tuning). That's the only one I play consistently and the only one I own. The soprano (EADG) is also called fiddleharpa (fiolharpa in Swedish) and the cello (ADGC but one octave lower than mine) an oktavharpa. I do play fiddle and cello so I don't find the use to have any of these =)

@SpintressStation 9 месяцев назад

Is the alto violin similar to the viola. I haven't played mine in awhile but those notes you tune to I think are the note I tune to for my viola@@EmelieWaldken

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

@@SpintressStation "Alto violin" is just a slightly more accurate term for what is usually called in English "viola" =)

@cbest2905 8 месяцев назад

@@EmelieWaldken 2 questions: 1. If you already play the violin, which model would be the most similar. adaptable to learn? (I would think the fiddleharpa?? ...and following on on that.....2. Is the fingering the same as the violin? (except you press the keys?) Thank you.

@EmelieWaldken 8 месяцев назад

@@cbest2905 1. There is no difference of technique nor spacing of fingers (or only very, very little) between the alto nyckelharpa (standard) and the fiddleharpa, so... go with the range you prefer =) The alto requires you to "climb" on the keyboard to play fiddle tunes, but the instrument is literally built for that ! 2. Same fingering BUT changing strings is in the reverse direction !

@billsherman6129 10 месяцев назад

I guess this could be a nice video, but I can't deal with the sound level difference between the music and the narration. I have to turn the volume way up to hear the narration, then when the music starts again I'm waking up the whole house! Somebody needed to do some volume leveling.

@kolober2045 10 месяцев назад

I had this issue too. But an excellent video otherwise.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

So sorry about that. I tried to edit the sound levels but I don't have good material for that. I will do better next time :)

@ChinaAl 7 месяцев назад

Beautiful video BUT your voice is much softer that the music and have to keep changing volume

@faramund9865 10 месяцев назад

I wonder how much time it took just to make the whole key system. Can't have been a cheap instrument. Which is why it strikes me as odd that such things are considered folk instruments.

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

Remember that for a long, long time, nyckelharpas didn't have half as many keys as they have today. They were much simpler, thus not as demanding to make by hand (still demanding much skill and time though).

@catalinquercinola7553 10 месяцев назад

Also another difference would be vibrato

@EmelieWaldken 9 месяцев назад

I thought about including it, but vibrato IS possible on nyckelharpa. Very much so. It doesn't sound exactly the same as on violin, and it's a bit harder to produce in my opinion, but it definitely works.