Sources: Ethan killed in doorway of Xana's room | Banfield 

I highly believe capital murder will be put in place

we all know they wont. what can be worse then being killed at 19 years old? please explain

@Bri Ba how? how can anything be of justice? besides him suffering the same suffering as them? just thinking loud here

My friends will celebrate

I’m sure they will

My friends will celebrate

So bored with these cliche responses

@@aisle_of_view ok purge boy

@@aisle_of_view Timothy, Mathew, Daniel and everyone else in the boop had to destroy the shorties man they know just to get ahead in life.

@@Odin33356 huh thats

That shut her up for few moments LoL she is insufferable.

she's so quick to respond

I love the way JSM basically put Ashleigh in her place & explained what he was referring to. She’s so rude to interrupt her guests the way she does & act like she knows more than these experts 🙄.

She doesn't listen just hungry for drama..she comes across as so erratic

@@Gypsy_Soul7 i can not STAND Ashleigh! She is a pure rude and disrespectful idiot! She has very little common sense!

right? like it was awful from day 1 but it was kind of "comforting" to think they were asleep and maybe didn't felt / know what was going on. But now we know they ALL were well aware of everything and were afraid and hurting

@@user-be3iu9vz4s I know. This isn't the only case either that had me feeling like this. There's so much going on and you look at it and think, has everyone gone mad?!

You’ve said it all perfectly. Adults, yes… but so young, so uninformed. I hate this for them and their families.

Amen

She always seems like she’s not listening to anything anyone says and is just thinking about what she wants to say.

Exactly she's rude asf why even ask them questions

@crimson chin rude af, yes!.. but I think she mostly just likes to seem like a know-it-all 🙄

Ditto

I agree, there is more going on than some incel who just snapped

I don't believe for a minute she didn't hear people across the hall on the same floor screaming and fighting for there lives.

He was not alone and someone covered their mouths with something.....pillow or cloth.

@@mhenry56941 right, she opened her door three times and you mean to hear me you didn't hear someone fighting for their lives,she is full of it

I WONDER THE SAME THING.

It's a party house . They are used to hearing yelling , screams, fights, loud noises at all times. It's the nature of the beast.

@@Jimmy-rd5ig sure it may be the nature of the beast , during a loud rager . But they didn't have a party there that night .

Possibly headphones. I wear over the ear style headphones.

One of the surviving roommates did hear the struggle. Did y’all miss that? It’s in the PCA

Wow really you're just now thinking of that? Of course they did.

@Citizen Dame Uh no, I'm not 'Just now' thinking that, hence the !? More of a sarcastic 'Way to to on releasing those details that should of been kept private for a reason' 🙄

🙊🙉🙈 nothing is ever clear ...???

@@citizendame6329 Dickhead

So much for Dylan & Bethany. 🤬🤬

Your prayer is answered

So do I and yes they do!

@@peacethroughstrength172 how do u know?

Oh they for sure (by what I know) have the right guy. They were gone too soon. 💔

@@getsy. you know what they tell you, and they tell you what they want you to think you know. For all we know it could have been someone on the local police force and they framed Bryan

That's all I've been able to think about. I've sobbed about Xana while driving home, just imagining her fear and pain

I won't put myself in their place. I had to go through of all that as a youngster, when Ted was running around in our backyards and community parks. Instead, think of how you can secure your home, doors and windows. Think of the bad guy turning away from your home and your room, because you have adequate locks. Think of using your air horn, your pepper spray, your force multiplier. Think of where you can have a secure hidey hole, under your bed against the wall maybe. Between your mattresses. A piece of paneling in your closet, that you can hide behind. Watch Active Self Protection Channel, and learn to be a self-defender. Not be a silly person in an unsecure party house full of silly people, with no security, and male strangers moving through with frequency. That would have been a scary house to live in. So unsecure, so arrogant about safety. And they pay EXTRA to belong to a sorority.

agree

@@Ena48145 and then the only person that could help Xana when she was crying ignored her. Xana could have lived

If your horrified then don’t follow the case

Of course DM heard all of it. Something is off with this case. If it quacks like a duck...

Agreed. Even you on the first floor, that roommate was never mentioned at all. I mean… wtf? But there is rumor that all of these kids were on drugs or intoxicated and passed out… party too hard. Lol.

Dylan's story is another level of bizarre. Can't believe all the people defending her, it's suspicious as hell.

@@terrie001 That passed out story only works if DM doesn't say she saw the intruder and his eyebrows. She was awake and heard all of it. No doubt in my mind. You can't just pick and choose what you heard. Walls are thin as f at 4am when its dark and quiet in the house.

@@joshfallen8069 How do you know it was dark and quiet?

Who's the killer ?

@@michaelpower4372 Not sure. Who's the killer?

Even though the evidence is mounting against him, he’s still innocent until proven guilty.

@@KaeBae_ I never said he is guilty but I agree. Also, another reason not to say the suspects name. If he is innocent it won't matter. There has been so much coverage on this case and every report gives us more reasons to find him guilty.

It's very important to stay protected and go to the range once a month

@@georgegil2299 omg STFU. You nuts take any opportunity to push guns

@@georgegil2299 with ya on that! I keep a gun at arms reach in my house and carry when I'm out. I refuse to be a statistic.

@George Gil Yes! I grew up on the range, trained with how to properly & safely handle a firearm thanks to my dad! I live in a college town 1 block away from our university & my gun is kept by the side of my bed with a loaded clip ready to go if anyone tries to get into my apartment! They'd be making a big mistake!

I am a female who's husband works 3rd shift ,i am going to invest in a firearm, i do have 2 bitbulls,anyone comes in my house with them around wont make it out, they are very friendly docile dog but I think if someone was putting their hands on me they would defend me to the death

Bingo. I am suppose to believe that one guy with a knife went into a house with 6 people and a dog and did what ever he wanted. AND it took 8 hours for anyone to call 911. Bunch of BS. Bryan is involved, but there is so much more to this...

@Josh Fallen yes, remember when he was arrested his first question was " was anyone else arrested " 🤔

I'm hoping that when the rest of this case comes to light, all of the things that make no sense, will. I have to choose to believe that because I'll drive myself bonkers.

So what if they heard or not. If you hear your roomates moaning you might just think they are having sex. Especially if the bed is shaking. How would you know what is happening if you hear moaning and movement?

.. does anyone know if Xana died immediately? I have had a horrible thought that she was the “unconscious “ one as the 911 call was placed. If this was the case, what a burden DM must carry! I’m still baffled by the length of time it took for them to call 911.. also.. with the gag order, I have noticed that the police are outwardly lying about incidents that took place in the jail.

Yes! This also contradicts the probably cause affidavit - the officer describes seeing xana's body as he walks to her room and then sees Ethan's body in the room too. Unless the friends and surviving roommates moved the bodies. Bc it doesn't align with reports about Ethan friend finding his body and calling 911... did he walk over xanas body? Didn't check her body for a pulse? It's just not adding up.

Ethan could have been in the doorway and not the hallway listening as he heard BK move around and been the person Dylan heard "there is somebody here". As there was no blood in the hallway or living room we know the attack didn't happen in either. BK slashes him in the neck and pushes him back onto the bed. Xana then puts up a fight and dies and her body was found close to the bedroom doorway as a detective who arrived later at the scene said he looked down from the living room and could see Xanas body on the floor. He closes the door to Maddie's and Xana's bedroom and hence the roommates would never know until they opened the door.

I really want to see the Factual time line and facts about the case. there is so much info that doesnt match up and yes your question is waiting on an answer. By the time he goes to Court maybe we will have factual answers. I would think that after he realizes that the truth is the only bargining chip left , he will trade the Facts for a window seat to the Gallows.

@@mikeloper100 I want her story , I also want to know why they called friends before calling police , and why call about an “ unconscious “ person when there was blood all over the place

She saw a masked person leave her house and never checked on any roommates till 8 hours later?!? Never called the police after locking her door for them to come check? But before that opened her door three different times. 🤦‍♀️ who is frozen in fear for that long instead of trying to act ffs? Literally any action on the phone or in her own home. She had to have seen the bloody knife that he obviously took with him since he left the sheath upstairs in his hand.

She was probably very drunk or maybe on drugs and when you’re in that type of stupor, it’s hard to distinguish reality from fantasy. She was probably trying to make sense of what was going on and probably ended up passing out.

Right? And a camera from another house picked up whimpering, the dog barking and a loud thud but no one in the house heard? I don't believe it. I hope they pull cell phone records and web history for the two girls left uninjured.

@@girlloveshemp642 very convenient that the entire twenty minute things were going down though she could open her door three times and think just by locking her interior door that she’d be good to go. No. Self preservation has to come in to play and anyone knows how easily and interior door lock can be picked or kicked in. Not buying that she was coherent enough before that but then got the spins and locked her door and went to sleep. 🙄 I’m really sick of all these excuses for this grown women from the media and now given a pass and repeated media narrative by so many as to why she waited 8 hours.

It wasn't on the same floor. The two girls were on the third floor, Xana and Ethan on the second floor and the two remaining surviving individuals, on the first floor.

I believe the girls on the top floor were killed in the dark possibly sleeping and frozen in fear/all happened so fast or first stabs were to the throat/lungs so they couldn’t make noise then DM woke up in a sleepy state to hearing the whimpering/male voice etc. But just sort of dismissed it.

💔💔💔

His ass was probably running lmao

"his woman" lol. What's that sound? Oh, the 50's are calling and they want you back.

@@danteright473 he was ambushed, he walked out into the hall to see who was there and that’s probably when he got jumped, that’s what it sounds like what happened to me. If he could’ve ran, he would’ve got away, he seemed tall and physically capable. IMO Ethan got ambushed…this isn’t funny by the way.

He appears to have made a good effort. Very horrible situation.

@@dreamingrightnow1174 Wow, so woke and brave. Keep fighting warrior!

she had to have heard screams...impossible to picture them being killed and not yelling for help or pleading for their lives. seems off to me. will we ever know? who knows?

The sounds she reported were corroborated by a camera in or near the house she heard whimpering and a loud thud! And then She thought she heard the roommate playing with the dog. And then "sick face killer say don't worry, I'm going to help you" though I don't think that part was caught on the camera. It seems unbelievable but when you live in a house and your used to a lot of loud sounds and your tired and possibly intoxicated....I don't know I don't think this happened the way we All imagine and this sicko got lucky that it wasn't louder though that may have saved the other 2 from dying as well so I hate to think otherwise!

Hmmmm 🤔 are we still not allowed to be suspicious about the roommate, or is that still " victim blaming"? There's no way in hell if it happened that way did the roommate not know something crazy out of the norm was happening and than she still came out of her room see a stranger walking around in her house?! than go back in her room to scared to call 911?!?! Come on. Come on! COME ON!!!! I don't know, man, this whole case is so dam bizarre!! There's no way she wouldn't call 911. No way, Nope, huah, can't be true!!

She ain’t clueless. I’ve said from the beginning, she is involved or knows more. Smfh

@@mikebarrios3269 it's called "survivor blaming"

A lot, but for a short period of time, as their wounds were described by the coroner as *lethal,* and they would've died rather quickly.

@@wholeshebang1 Hmmmm

Pun intended?

I've heard that being stabbed is like being punched. Your mind cannot comprehend what has happened; adrenaline kicks in and protects you from feeling anything for a certain amount of time. If you pass away quickly you likely may have been aware of psychological terror, but physically you wouldn't have felt the pain. If you survived, once the adrenaline and shock has worn off, the pain would be acute.

My guess is kohlberger stabbed xana once then finished off Ethan then returned to finish off xana

This would then make sense because Dylan heard whimpering and heard a male say it's ok I'm gonna help you

But if you believe what they say about him you would believe that he stocked them and knew what cars should be there. This isn’t adding up.

Not if he knew they were in the practice of walking instead of driving to their drinking destinations lol

Trauma response and/or being “wasted” after a night of parting is a tricky minx

If Ethan was lying on the ground and the door was open … she lied OR Police didn’t us tell the truth. Why?

@@kaylaread8048 I'd sue your ass for libel defamation so fast your head spinning would be an understatement. Screw you for publishing unfounded baseless claims! Shame on you!!!

It’s just too weird.

because you are projecting your benefit of hindsight into the situation. How did DM know what was going ? So far we have no evidence that suggests she KNEW what happened as it happened.

They weren't babies they were adults.

@@citizendame6329 Xana, Kaylee, Madison and Ethan will always be their parents’ babies! May they rest in peace

@@citizendame6329 tonto !

@@lachicadehumo1366 but they aren't our babies! May these adults rip!

Chandler meant "babies" as a tender way of looking at them , and deeply empathizing with what they went through.

I agree. I think the murderer knew that either the girls would be in the house or the girls plus Ethan would be there and he was prepared for either scenario. So scary and sad.

@Meghan M. struggle and dying moans sound very different from usual noise, you'd know if you heard. your comment is not as clever as you think it is.

I know. A killing frenzy is all I can say.

Wasn't quick, that's the point

Aprox. 8 minutes….It was incredibly fast and weird. How……?

HE? Did a JURY already give a GUILTY verdict? Didn't think so.

@@anakarenina9403 It took longer than that. The timeline is all wrong. But keep in mind, once you slash a person's neck, they can no longer scream, so they are out for the count, they're dead, and your job is done.

Yeah, I think it's one of the worst ways. Especially if they were awake.

DM heard it all, no doubt in my mind.

@@joshfallen8069 i wear my air-pod most of the time, she might had it on

Stop. Leave her alone

And called a bunch of sorority kids over before the police a bunch of 🤡 sad that's what will run this country in the future

Yep and Ethan could have potentially went into the kitchen to grab them forks or plates or something during the same time BK was on the same floor

Exactly 💯 👍🏻

No kidding. So much conflicting information

Yeah her ‘source’ contradicts the official police report (affidavit). Hmm, really wonder who to believe…

How do you know she didn’t hear it?

@@atheistbewildered2987 beat me to it. I think it would make sense that she did hear it, cracked her door open but didn’t walk out of her room and immediately went into freeze state. Hence why no phone call was made. In so many other cases, a victim will go into shock for hours, and are too scared to even move in case the perp is still in the house. So many questions and I hope in a few months to a year we will gain more understanding of what these kids went through.

Probably barred out

I think Dylan is the killer

probably fingernail scratches on Brian's arm from that defense,,,, she fought for her life and I bet they find DNA under the fingernails. last act of brilliance

yea i’m pretty sure it’s been stated ethan was in the bed and it’s only been confirmed xana was awake cause of her phone activity history

I thought that Ethan was in bed with the cover on because it said that his injuries weren’t visible on scene. I guess they could also not be visible if he’s face down. But, I know 100% it says that Xana is the first person whose seen. So, I don’t buy this version.

@@Sassyglbeauty yea i think news outlets are just making stuff up to keep the story going. i heard ethan was in the bed as well. he was most likely asleep and why there was no noises or s screaming. xana probably found ethan and went into shock and started crying and bryan killed her immmediately after seeing her

@@samma9831 I find it so humorous how they vilified the social media community because of the wild speculation of who did this (before the arrest)…. Yet, there is a literal gag order …. So, now they r trying to create hysteria from any little piece of info that comes out. When, anyone who has investigative knowledge shouldn’t be talking PERIOD. I won’t even read the 2nd part of that article - because it sounds like a horror story. Idk. Just seems gross.

Oh except Ethan was heard screaming on the camera. So maybe not in bed.

that is why brian had fingernail scratches on his right forearm when he was pulled over in Indiana, I bet

@@anomaliesandtherealdeal sounds logical to me.

wouldnt of changed anything, 2 of them would of died anyways.

If he simply shut and locked the door and called 911, he and his GF would be alive

@@atheistbewildered2987 I am afraid it all happened so fast and i believe its reasonable to assume Ethan may have been enebriated

Everyone was at least drunk and stoned there that night/morning

@@atheistbewildered2987 some outside doors are solid wood or reinforced. Most inside doors are maybe 1/4 inch thick with one by one pieces of wood around the outside edges with maybe one or two other braces down to the center somewhere. One point holding the door shut and maybe 3/4 inch round sticking in the door frame usually less than half an inch. Oh well I am 5 ft 9 in and weigh almost 200 lb I can kick in almost any outside door with not much effort. Unless it's braced where the locks are. Basically push open locked interior doors destroying the door itself. They are made for honest people if they have locks on them in the house. Or somebody is aware enough to put a solid door and possibly another bolt or two on it that help hold somebody out in an emergency situation. Ethan went out because he heard commotion going on and turned around and basically came almost face-to-face with the perpetrator and ran back in and managed to lock the door somebody pursuing him with his adrenaline flowing would walk right through that door. I've got five daughters ranging from 13 up to 35. Each one of them how to used firearms and have bought most of them one. But I'm not even sure if that would save somebody in that situation I always tell them if somebody's trying to get in the house to shoot through the door. Don't wait till they get in to make you a victim. This case Haunts me I hope to God they get everyone involved and put each one of them to death.

Absolutely 💯

Lies. Straight up. Look into Moscow pd holy crap !! There are specific details if wellness call but white Dr. But this is 5 pm then nearly ten min later someone asking where dig is at the shelter. How would anyone kw well Maddie was gonna tell DM to stop dealing. Swear. So bidycam shows well we were tohs a nutty story. But it was a party home so why the hell a cop ...who transportrd Murphy. This is crazy. When did they get Access!!?! All tell u ...way later then we may think. Bk was in drugs. So where they. It pinged off tower. Nope I'm confused cuz Kaylee wasn't supp to get there but it was

Ok then don’t follow the case since it’s heartbreaking for you 🤦🏽‍♂️

Psychological profile most likely

What about shutting the door? He might have attracted the perp to their presence

@@atheistbewildered2987 We still don't know exactly what happened at that house! What if Ethan heard something & only looked outside the door to see what's going on? So easy for you to say to just lock the door but what if this happens to you?! What if the intruder/perpetrator is in your home & goes towards your room? Are u just going to hide under the bed hoping that nothing happens to you or will you try to defend yourself or your home if they try to attack you?

@@atheistbewildered2987 I get the feeling this all happened in seconds. If Xana said someone is here as she was on tik Tok. Woke Ethan and he went to peek.. that would be seconds to Ethan being attacked. Drunk, groggy, not expecting this versus a planned killer sober, armed and ready. I personally think Ethan was found in the bed. Whether a struggle occurred and he landed there is possible but he ended up in the bed as the PCA said as well as the bloody mattress we saw leave the house.

I don’t know why but since the beginning of this horrible tragedy, I’ve said, “It’s going to be found that Ethan was/forever is a hero.” There truly is *something* unique/special about Ethan’s smile ( perfect name for the tulips honoring his smile). You can see the light and kindness inside him externally- in his smile and his eyes. His entire countenance was bright. He was a true young man- he instinctively felt the responsibility to get up and protect a home full of young women. Sadly, it was another young man that preyed on that home because it was full of young women. We have a hero and a real villain in this true story. And both will forever be remembered as such.

Ok. Yea you sound like an idiot. Go back to work and pay your taxes

He sabb 😢

Majorly off.. 💯

No one has said they heard nothing. DM heard crying, presumably Xana's, and the attacker saying something like "I'm here to help you."

@@joralemonvirgincreche Im going with the latter

a person can't scream with the neck injury they mention

@@henmaidstale Ethan had the throat slash right?

I don't know if that has been released, but doing it stealth mode at 4am and keeping them quiet had to have been a priority for BK. So gruesome, can't even understand how a person could do that unprovoked. 😔

I think kholberger stabbed xana once to silence her then finished off Ethan then came to finish off Xana .This is consistent with Dylan hearing whimpering and male voice saying it ok I'm gonna help you.Xana was whimpering bc he had stabbed her once already

Well... these 4(7) did something to attract some real bad into their lives. And the talk of drugs here there n everywhere... of ONLY FRIENDS $ for sex.... they were living life full out in the fast lane. And it caught up to them.

the roomate has sais she heard xana crying in her room which made her check the hallway

@@grcamm2992 I'm not so sure we can count on everything the roomie said, to be true..;( I doubt her. If so, its purty cringe-worthy to hear... Those details. So deeply touching...

The nearby house confirmed there was the noise of people and the dog barking, so it isn't the case that there was no noise.

@@Lucienne-zz1sw that's confusing, isnt it? Noise? No noise?

Judge not that you be not judged!

I was sleeping deep around 2am and my mom felt and held onto a TV table in her room, made a loud noise from the fall (not even screaming from her) - and that woke me up and I ran to the door and get to her room (right next to mine) within like 6 seconds. I understand that their rooms are not next to each other, but man… you get 4 ppl murdered in the house and you can sleep through all that is hard to believe…

@@terrie001 I agree!!! It’s baffling to me.

@@terrie001 interesting that according to the affidavit the neighbour's security camera recorded sounds of muffled voices, a dog whimpering, and a thud. no mention of screams, yells, cries.

Nicole wasn't screaming when she was murdered. Her throat was slit so deep she was almost decapitated. If these kids were killed the same way, there wouldn't have been much noise.

@@trishna_6815 yes! I forgot about that. You’re right.

Oh there was more then one person involved

@Retired Arthropod I am 6foot 2 165 pounds and i don’t know anyone that could physically over power 4. Young adults in under 15 min and not have knife wound or a big bruise from the strongle under the current evidence I think Brian is innocent or at very least there more than enough to prove reasonable doubt I think Dylan is the killer

@Retired Arthropod clearly you have no idea about how big Ethan was.

@@dianegreyson8787 as a lawyer based on what been reported I am 85 percent sure I could beat this case for Mr kolberger

@Retired Arthropod I don’t buy it it still doesn’t constitute a 1st time adrenaline filled quadruple murder like this something doesn’t smell Right in Denmark

Fentynal

My thinking is that he waited til 4am and being a Sunday night, knew there wasn't a party going on. I think he only intended to kill Maddy upstairs and then sneak out, but when coming downstairs, encountered Ethan or Xana and then decided to kill them.

Maybe he was on drugs.

@@georgegil2299 you don’t know much about drugs do you? 🙄

Personally I think someone in the house told him the coast was clear. An accomplice or , the giant elephant in the room of the person who allegedly saw him but didn’t call 911 for 8 hours

Kohbergers car was seen parking like 2 min before he entered the house

The dog already had gone out for walk then back into the house where he stayed in Kaylee’s room on her bed and Kaylee’s was in Maddie’s bedroom sharing the food Maddie ordered from grub truck. That’s why the dog was spared. We will know more when the trial starts in June

I don't know if the blood on outside wall as ever confirmed as blood. I have always doubted it. Never saw pictures of anyone taking samples. From my experience with blood, too, blood would have dried much darker (nearly black) once dried and exposed to light.

If he were watching the house, the two surviving roommates wouldn't be here to tell the tale,or not tell the tale, there's more to this story than some incel who just snapped

MM and KM seen guys outside before they even entered. There is so much that they are not telling BUT THE 2 GOOD PHYSIC READERS TELL ALL AND IT IS TO THE T.

If it was a so-called party house, with people in and out, it does make sense. If you have not lived in that situation before you wouldn’t understand.

@@karendavenport2766 But i have lived in that situation a 3 floor party house students etc. I agree people coming and going is a common thing. But that 3rd floor house of theirs is tiny in height compared to the one i lived in. And if people were being rowdy you could hear it. Maybe alcohol played apart and anyone sleeping would of been easy targets. Also your explanation of a party house is flawed. Why then did DM freeze with fear? Cus youre implying they are used to people coming and going. And still doesnt explain 8hr delay?

@@desd1932 I see your point! Thanks

Yep, 8hr delay and calling friends to come over prior to 911 call? Something is off.

Absolutely sad.. it's all unbelievable too 😢😢😢