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Sources close to the Idaho killings investigation told NewsNation's "Banfield" that the person who is featured on Bryan Kohberger's phone is the same person that he was reaching out to on social media. The photos were downloaded off of the victim's Instagram. Kohberger also apparently followed both Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves on Instagram. He "liked" all of Mogen's photos, according to our source.
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@TexasWench
@TexasWench Год назад
I knew it had to be Maddie, Kaylee did not live there anymore and her visit was pretty spontaneous because she wanted to surprise Maddie with the new car she had just bought. He probably wanted to SA Maddie but Kaylee being there prevented it from happening, her wounds were more severe because maybe he was frustrated that she got in the way and took out his anger on her. He went downstairs and probably encountered either Ethan or Xana either by accident or surprise, after that he got out of there...basically nothing went as planned for him. May he rot in hell.
@TexasWench
@TexasWench Год назад
meant to say "either by accident, or on purpose".
@viovsa
@viovsa Год назад
Sources?
@viovsa
@viovsa Год назад
Also what about the roommate that saw him? He didn’t see the roommate?
@TheRobertlonski
@TheRobertlonski Год назад
I think you 'solved it', he did not hurt DM because she did not attack him like E and X did. It now all makes sense.
@luns486
@luns486 Год назад
I think this is very likely exactly what went down.
@MrRibby88
@MrRibby88 Год назад
Liking EVERY SINGLE ONE of her posts is damning for him. That shows he was trying to get her attention and when she did not give it to him, this narcissistic psychopath was going to punish her for it. I really think the others were just collateral damage.
@Deenique16
@Deenique16 Год назад
Exactly spam likes from ppl who randomly follow you on social media is sometimes a bad sign. Sometimes I block immediately
@RedMissileGaming
@RedMissileGaming Год назад
How is that damning? Circumstantial, not damning.
@a.m.9474
@a.m.9474 Год назад
Bingo!
@xoAnimal_Loverxo
@xoAnimal_Loverxo Год назад
Same here. I really believe this is exactly why he did what he did an it just makes him look even more pathetic.
@toniasampley695
@toniasampley695 Год назад
@@florencetown4024 that’s not a very nice thing to say.
@gregcooks9
@gregcooks9 Год назад
That is so freaking creepy and scary
@ValiantPixel
@ValiantPixel Год назад
It’s incredibly easy to download photos and videos from Instagram even without an account. And even if they had their accounts private, he was able to view all of those photos since he followed them. When a disturbed guy like him gets into this mindset, there aren’t really enough protective measures to stop him. The inherent dangers of social media are being all but ignored these days.
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
I mean he can just screen shot them: there’s no reason to dl?
@ValiantPixel
@ValiantPixel Год назад
@@pennytrue2741 That's also true. But when you download it could be a higher resolution and it may provide raw image data that could be used to track the girls down. Though I'm not so sure if that works when downloading from Instagram.
@ADRIENNETV
@ADRIENNETV Год назад
@ValiantPixel Newsflash: most men are not "disturbed" if they are screenshot/downloading sexy pics off PUBLIC social media accounts. Or paying for onlyfans ones, then saving them.
@mrsmartypants_1
@mrsmartypants_1 Год назад
There’s plenty of protective measures. Lock your doors. Have outside lights and cameras. Lock your bedroom doors. Have dogs - little ankle biter “alarms” and/or dominate large protector breeds. Own and become proficient with guns. The list is endless.
@theamerican7080
@theamerican7080 Год назад
@@mrsmartypants_1 So, live in fear in other words..
@westcoasttiff85
@westcoasttiff85 Год назад
With everything that has come to light....I believe he went in the house with intentions to harm Maddie. He was then surprised with Kaylee sleeping in her room. Ethan may have heard something and confronted Brian, because they said Ethan was found in Zana's bedroom door way. Then he killed Zana. I believe it unfolded in a way Brian wasn't ready for.
@Mel__21
@Mel__21 Год назад
I’m thinking this too. Though one of things that still makes no sense to me is how could anyone think only one person lives at the house?? How dumb of him
@westcoasttiff85
@westcoasttiff85 Год назад
@@Mel__21 exactly! I read a other comment that there were 5 cars in the driveway. Unfortunately, psychopaths don't have normal rational thinking. I don't think anyone could have stopped him. He was determined to make it to her room. Such a sad tragedy!
@rolandm9750
@rolandm9750 Год назад
Didn't previous reports say Kaylee was more viciously/brutally stabbed than the others (including Maddie)?
@westcoasttiff85
@westcoasttiff85 Год назад
@@rolandm9750 I didn't read that article myself. But, if he didn't expect to catch her in Maddie's room, I wouldn't be surprised.
@divalarue
@divalarue Год назад
That's a good theory but I think he knew Zana and the other roommates were there because he stalked Maddie. Kaylee was a surprise. Also, the survivors not contacting police for eight hours and Brian's best friend (that doesn't live there) calling stating Ethan was unconscious (when clearly Ethan and Zana's room was a blood bath) is baffaling to me. In my opinion. The more I hear about this case the more horrifying it gets.
@makeithungrish5037
@makeithungrish5037 Год назад
I believe he went for Maddie and the rest were collateral.
@bunnbihhh2391
@bunnbihhh2391 Год назад
Yep.
@SilentHillMyHome
@SilentHillMyHome Год назад
Looks like we found the target of Kohberger
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
Because a reporter says so? Ok
@kmartgoth8313
@kmartgoth8313 Год назад
@Mimi this is bullshit
@TheGingerOfficiant
@TheGingerOfficiant Год назад
Can you imagine if he went in there to kill one person, Maddie, but killed 4?! That is wild.
@Deenique16
@Deenique16 Год назад
That is what happened. That’s what I’m thinking
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
Maybe he wanted to SA her at knifepoint and didn’t expect Kaylee in the room, or a guy, Ethan.
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
It just occurred to me if Maddie was the target, Kaylee may have been collateral damage. It’s possible he really only chose this weekend because Maddie’s boyfriend was away and out of town this weekend and he knew he wouldn’t be there with her so thought it was the perfect opportunity to get her so to speak. He was following one or more boyfriends too I remember either authorities saying or rumors circulating before the gag order was in place.
@IVANOOZE69
@IVANOOZE69 Год назад
remember when Kaylee's parents came out and tried to make it all about her, suggesting she was the target?
@nikkis7375
@nikkis7375 Год назад
They’ve been saying this all along
@MD77SA
@MD77SA Год назад
I think that possibly 3 of them were collateral damage.
@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions
All three were collateral damage.
@paulandrew4820
@paulandrew4820 Год назад
Kaylee was probably trying to protect her friend… smh
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 Год назад
this is logical.he went to her room and it was a surprise that Kaylee was in there as well. not his experience. not a sleepover guy. that kaylee had more injuries would be an indication of the possibllity she woke during the attack on her friend and she put up a fight. and he was pissed and afraid.
@ashleybailey5513
@ashleybailey5513 Год назад
Makes sense
@Nina-dq3lo
@Nina-dq3lo Год назад
But wasn't the Elantra spotted in the background driving past when the girls were at the food truck. And/or if he was in any pubs clubs stalking them that night he would have seen Kaylee and Maddie together
@emilyelizabeth7883
@emilyelizabeth7883 Год назад
​@Nina according to the probably cause affidavit, he didn't leave his home in Washington until around 2:45am... the girls were already home for an hour by then
@emilyelizabeth7883
@emilyelizabeth7883 Год назад
Probable*
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
If Madison was the only real target, he apparently thought he could murder her without alerting the other housemates.
@will4688
@will4688 Год назад
That was amazing reporting. Thank you
@GeraldTN06
@GeraldTN06 Год назад
So in that case, Kaylee's injuries were more severe likely because she tried to escape. Maddie is the target, he attacks her first. This gives Kaylee time to react and likely try to get away.. It just clicked for me. Kaylee is responsible for solving this murder. When the killer walked in they were both likely asleep. Killer can only attack one while asleep, so he goes for who he targeted. Removes the sheath from the knife and attacks Maddie. Kaylee wakes up and tries to get away. Because he has to stop Kaylee from getting away, he forgets about the sheath entirely. After having to catch Kaylee and killing her, he figures he made a lot of noise already so he heads out. Likely runs into Ethan at this point, otherwise he likely would have left. Once he engaged Ethan, Xana has to be awake and alert to what's going on so he attacks her too. At this point he REALLY made too much noise and been there too long. He's likely so tired that he just leaves
@KaeBae_
@KaeBae_ Год назад
I don’t think any of them were asleep. Maybe Kaylee and Maddie were up talking because they tried to call Kaylee’s ex-boyfriend and got no response. Xana was awake because she ordered DoorDash and her TikTok was open around 4. I think the suspect went upstairs first and killed Maddie and Kaylee. Then he probably ran into Xana near the kitchen because she had the food delivered. Xana probably screamed or called for Ethan to help. Ethan probably had a brief altercation with the suspect but it’s nearly impossible to fight someone off who has a knife. Once Ethan was incapacitated, he went into Xana’s room where she was probably trying to hide or call 911 and killed her. Then he had to leave quickly because he wasn’t anticipating killing Xana and Ethan and they probably made a lot of noise so he was afraid that 911 was already called. He most likely didn’t see Dylan as he left and he returned a few hours later to see if the cops were there.
@kayvallowwoodcock5079
@kayvallowwoodcock5079 Год назад
Thanks Ashleigh!! We love watching you 🙌👍💙💜
@wholeshebang1
@wholeshebang1 Год назад
It's too bad she has a tendency to repeat and over-explain simple things (i.e. is pedantic) several times in this interview. She also interrupts guests, often experts, to interject with unnecessary commentary or to "move it along," due to time constraints - when *_she's the one_* taking up air-time and digging for info.
@kookietherapy9398
@kookietherapy9398 Год назад
Who's 'We?'
@kayvallowwoodcock5079
@kayvallowwoodcock5079 Год назад
@@kookietherapy9398 Larry & me.
@amandamccormick5009
@amandamccormick5009 Год назад
I knew it. He attacked Kaylee so bad because she protected her best friend and took Maddie from him. Maddie is pure sunshine.
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
That's my take from what Mr. Goncalves said re Kaykee's wounds. She was fighting for herself & Madison.
@lynnmicucci7086
@lynnmicucci7086 Год назад
The sad thing is if social media didnt exist this might have never happened. The Instagram, FB, Twitter, puts you out there, and if you are out there for people to see, everyone is looking, not just good people. Very tragic
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Shouldn't use last names or be public, along w accepting strangers...can do a background check w a last name, and find addresses sometimes just by Google.
@kevinba7981
@kevinba7981 Год назад
They will still find you, with no name
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Same thing happened to Christina grimmie, he was obsessed by her social media..then couldn't have her so wanted to kill her...sad.
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 Год назад
He just would have done it to someone local, can't really blame social media, Ted Bundy wasn't on Instagram, these people are sick af and will always find a victim 😥
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Год назад
He met them at the Mad Greek restaurant, then saw them on social media.
@Shineyourlightxo
@Shineyourlightxo Год назад
I hope all this info doesn't screw up the case and they don't get justice
@ThalanX
@ThalanX Год назад
Looking like a 1 in a million chance of that exoneration Bryan.
@timewa851
@timewa851 Год назад
1 in a million they convict. Unless Bryan is some super ninja-yoda with a light saber....
@vanessamiller9202
@vanessamiller9202 Год назад
With our government you never know.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
@@vanessamiller9202 You don't like the state government of Idaho and their judicial system? Please explain why.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
@@timewa851
@aslater5
@aslater5 3 дня назад
But what about his “alibi”?? Remember, his lawyer said his alibi was he was driving around that night!
@skiarytn6744
@skiarytn6744 Год назад
Each piece of new information on these murders is as frightening and sad as the last. RIP Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Zana - it’s just awful 😢.
@Hojiii
@Hojiii Год назад
Totally.
@saraglickman5889
@saraglickman5889 Год назад
Very well put and completely true
@VijayThakurMD
@VijayThakurMD Год назад
🤣
@BMarie774
@BMarie774 Год назад
My guess: He went for Maddie. Kaylee caught him off guard and the commotion alerted Xana and Ethan. Ethan went to go see what was going on or was otherwise in the doorway area and encountered Kohberger. I believe perhaps Ethan was the one who said “someone’s here”. I believe Kohberger killed Ethan, then went for Xana, and either didn’t see or otherwise knew he needed to leave quickly with the other roommate, not realizing she would..literally do nothing to get help for her friends…
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
According to the PCA, DM said she thought it was Kaylee or Xana who said "There's someone here".
@sealife13
@sealife13 Год назад
I never got why everybody including Kaylee's family assumed it had to be because of Kaylee. What is this, a post mortum beauty peagant?
@salesadmieze9049
@salesadmieze9049 Год назад
Wasnt she stalked?
@sealife13
@sealife13 Год назад
@@salesadmieze9049 She was always together with Maddie. Maye they where followed together and she assumed it was because of her, just like the rest.
@bsg4338
@bsg4338 Год назад
I noticed that too. Hardly any photos of Ethan and Xana, but the two blondes pictures were all over every news outlet like they were the more important victims
@sealife13
@sealife13 Год назад
​@@bsg4338 Really annoying imo The reason this is going viral is a pretty girl or the most prettiest in this case { even sadder a beauty contest between two victims} are murdered. A person of color, from the lgbtqi community, poor people or a prostitute would never get this much attention. I believe killers use these people as easy targets because they hardly get any press. And I am guilty of this aswell but I am not blind to it. It's sad how the world works
@automnejoy5308
@automnejoy5308 Год назад
​@@bsg4338 Well, like Kaylee's dad said... there was no reason for him to go upstairs. And he went upstairs immediately upon entering the house. It was pretty obvious that either Kaylee or Maddie were the primary targets, or both.
@moonshadow7064
@moonshadow7064 Год назад
I hope they checked his scalp because if Kaylee was not expected to be there and she had just gotten that vehicle he would not recognize it as hers so he could have assumed Maddie was alone on her floor. With that expectation she might have hit him in the head with something from behind thus bringing out his anger and more brutal attack. It would make sense then that was the unexpected part and why the sheath would be left upstairs. Then to get away he ran into Ethan on the stairs and Xana would then be the one that screamed out loud because she would be next and had the longest time to realize the danger along with fighting back. That would make it Maddie, Kaylee, Ethan, and then Xana potentially.
@sarahj30
@sarahj30 Год назад
He wouldn’t have met Ethan on the stairs. Ethan was killed in the doorway of Xana’s room which was down the hall.
@sarahj30
@sarahj30 Год назад
@@differentlystill1846 no, every reporting I’ve heard has that info flipped.
@differentlystill1846
@differentlystill1846 Год назад
@@sarahj30 thanks for the heads up. Deleting was the easiest solution. Fake report got me. Looking back it was one that’s bent on blaming survivors. This needs real coverage, what’s up w RU-vid taking the lead. It’s not doing anyone favors. I Honestly the way it’s communicated is gonna leave some heads fried. ✌️
@Kamarca
@Kamarca Год назад
When are you going to start crediting Reddit as your source?
@anons000
@anons000 Год назад
This source is from People magazine like many of the others. Reddit simply discussed it
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer Год назад
Fuck Reddit. It’s not a reliable source. It’s nothing but biased echo chambers that spew out what it sees fit for it’s narrative.
@Kamarca
@Kamarca Год назад
@@GrabbaBeer Just like NewsNation, huh?
@mayaya2
@mayaya2 Год назад
😂😂
@sarahj30
@sarahj30 Год назад
That’s crazy! This whole time I thought his target was Kaylee because her wounds were much more severe.
@tomvan6008
@tomvan6008 Год назад
it could easily be Sarah that since they were both found dead that when he started killing Maddie for instance and Kaylee woke but attempts to stop it, he turns his attention to her to shut her up and would need to silence her fast and hence a flurry of stab wounds as he is now in a more panic situation. We will have to wait to see if they had defensive wounds (Kaylee and Maddie) or not.
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
Yikes. I guess Maddie was the target after all. I wonder how he got so obsessed with her and why? It doesn’t seem like they had any mutual acquaintances at all? Has to be the restaurant but yet the owner says he was never there. So does that mean had Kaylee not even gone back that weekend she wasn’t the target and potentially could’ve survived?
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
We have no idea who the target was. This is speculation.
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
@Aunt Maggie they posted a picture to instagram that day of all of them with Kaylee there and I’m sure he followed her stories etc to know she was probably there.
@caho562
@caho562 Год назад
She worked at the restaurant
@johnward8064
@johnward8064 Год назад
I think the restaurant is totally lying as to be left alone. They know he was there.
@salesadmieze9049
@salesadmieze9049 Год назад
He couldn't get a real girlfriend so he obsessed over her, pretended she was his
@Quantum_GirlE
@Quantum_GirlE Год назад
That's the nail in the coffin. Want to see him shake in his metaphorical boots in court next time. And damn girl! You got some amazing sources! Bravo 👏💙
@johannawigg6921
@johannawigg6921 Год назад
Any woman that’s ever worked in hospo or retail will always get unwanted attention, it’s your job to be nice and smile and so many men take this as you being interested... so maybe he did come in to contact with her through her workplace. ( I know the owner has denied it but is the owner there every day from open to close and front of house?)
@niaselah3348
@niaselah3348 Год назад
I don't think they take that as you being interested but that they know you have to be nice and smile. It's about coercion People who don't want to force you want to make sure that you are interested, not force you to
@johannawigg6921
@johannawigg6921 Год назад
@@niaselah3348 believe me some take it as a sign your interested and think they can harasses you for dates etc or send flowers etc
@niaselah3348
@niaselah3348 Год назад
@@johannawigg6921 I have no doubt that's what they say and how they "justify" it to themselves and others. It's like you said they proceed to harass you. They pursue you without you giving any sign to keep and even when you have politely decline more than once. This is not a mistake. This is coercion and lack of real interest on you having any agency at all
@johannawigg6921
@johannawigg6921 Год назад
@@niaselah3348 oh sorry I get what you mean now, yes I completely agree
@sustainablelife1st
@sustainablelife1st Год назад
100%, some men think any kindness is a sign of desire. If you are nice, they get obsessed with you, if you are rude, they think youare a b* and will punish you (slash tires, kill your cat, etc). Working in the public is dangerous. Many men, especially incels, can't handle being ignored or rejected. (Some women too, like fatal attraction). I've seen decrepit 80 year old men get obsessed with female restaurant servers just because they use the term "hon".
@georgemalouf4298
@georgemalouf4298 Год назад
If this is a true fact, it means he had been besotted by either of the girls, he kept stalking them a couple of months leading up to their deaths. The victims perhaps were not aware of his social media harassment, or weren’t heedful to his reactions, texts and comments. Anyhow, it transpires now that the crime was not a random crime.
@Godlessgaming79
@Godlessgaming79 Год назад
didnt someone say a shop owner or someone who worked at a place that knew one of the girls say they had someone stocking them?
@donnajordan9975
@donnajordan9975 Год назад
I thought early on this case that one of the girls said they had a stalker?
@skippyhandleman1625
@skippyhandleman1625 Год назад
The road to the left of the house goes up to a parking lot for condos. there's a space with tree cover with a high ground view into Maddie's bedroom. He found out where she lived and found a spot to watch her. He was jerking off in his car watching her and then planned her murder.
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Год назад
It was never a random crime!
@Energy-Alchemy
@Energy-Alchemy Год назад
Before he was arrested, didn't Kohberger even tell a neighbor that he believed the murders resulted as a, "crime of passion"? I heard this on a news channel, and if so, what he believed to be an innocent remark, in the moment, could, very well, come back to haunt him; especially, when put into context, along with all the other forms of mounting evidence. It certainly seems that Maddie was his obsession, and his target.
@ChonainCanada
@ChonainCanada Год назад
I’m thinking it was maddie also because kaylee was there for a visit she’s already move out she was there to showed her car to everybody .
@SweetTater
@SweetTater Год назад
That makes sense as Kaylee was only there for the weekend.
@cowboy7170
@cowboy7170 Год назад
Jodi Arias also took photos of her victim and ex-BF. Then tried to get the camera damaged in the washer but failed. LE got a hold of the camera and discovered the bloody pics. Later, during interrogation, when Arias found out the police had the camera and the photos, she actually wanted to see the gruesome pictures. An innocent person would not want to see the gruesome death pics but a guilty malignant narcissist would.
@bonniehowell9206
@bonniehowell9206 Год назад
For someone that evwn went as far to make sure she had gas cans to avoid being spotted on camera, throwing evidence of the crime into his washing machine was an idiotic mistake.
@Goodhello369
@Goodhello369 Год назад
Hard to believe theyre gone. Its eerie to see the pics of them.
@joymae
@joymae Год назад
NewsNation are you guys going through every Instagram photo and looking at likes? Like wow I’m impressed with this detail
@LoveyK
@LoveyK Год назад
Reason to use discretion when posting to Social Media. You really don’t know who’s following you.
@Femininenergy17
@Femininenergy17 Год назад
Great coverage Ashley ❤️❤️
@mikeGintheplacetobe
@mikeGintheplacetobe Год назад
Ashley and her network put out bs too… dont just believe what they put out
@tracyswain7942
@tracyswain7942 Год назад
Where are you getting this information?
@katherinekaufman9856
@katherinekaufman9856 Год назад
Thanks Ashleigh, for shedding new light on who BCK's target may have been. Absolutely frightening.
@mattweizhongxian7238
@mattweizhongxian7238 Год назад
Last week she was worried about a a fair trial
@sarah69420
@sarah69420 Год назад
@@mattweizhongxian7238 it's important that he get a fair trial so that he can't appeal his sentence or verdict
@jeremyselleck6662
@jeremyselleck6662 Год назад
and people on here think he’s innocent..
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Narcissistic people
@travnich
@travnich Год назад
most who have been following this case closely have felt he went to the house that night for Maddie. maybe even only her but it went off script. ive been thinking that for awhile
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
But why? I don’t understand the connection.
@travnich
@travnich Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 could be as simple as she caught his eye somewhere and followed her home one day. so creepy
@thinkingallowed7042
@thinkingallowed7042 Год назад
No. Most of the speculation was that Kaylee was his obsession.
@leahbeahh
@leahbeahh Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 suspicion is because she worked at the mad greek restaurant which is one of the only places in the region with vegan options. And kaylee was not supposed to be there that night she had already moved out and surprised Maddie
@travnich
@travnich Год назад
@@thinkingallowed7042 in the beginning because Kaylee's parents were all over tv. but i think most believe it was Maddie now. but who knows, he could have wanted all of them
@charlesgodwin-cv6il
@charlesgodwin-cv6il Год назад
Maddys door was the only door he didnt pass, and was his target
@endthedrugwartoday
@endthedrugwartoday Год назад
Dear god. That is so scary.
@rebekahritchie9012
@rebekahritchie9012 Год назад
Does anyone think Ashleigh is opening up this case for a mistrial? I may be wrong but she adds so much information that I’m sure people don’t know about!
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
No, this is a silly fantasy. If he's convicted, it's not going to be undone by chatter from the news media. It would be something like the prosecution withholding huge amounts of evidence from the defense, judge offering inappropriate jury instructions -- serious issues that would hamper a fair trial.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
Banfield only cares about her ratings!
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
@@randygraham926 wrong Sam Sheppard was released due to prejudicial publicity decades ago. “The U.S. Supreme Court determined that the "carnival atmosphere" surrounding Sheppard's first trial had made due process impossible; after ten years in prison he was acquitted at a second trial.”
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Год назад
No, this is nothing new.
@Nikalette100
@Nikalette100 Год назад
I think the trial will be moved and the jury will be sequestered, because of the media and social media attention.
@deadinthewater218
@deadinthewater218 Год назад
I was wrong. I have been saying since December it was Kaylee, but this proves it wasn't.
@clytnjms
@clytnjms Год назад
She must have been being A professional and was nice to Him and like most desperate/lonely/empty Men He took it the wrong way and thought they had some sort of special connection when She was most likely just doing Her job.
@lisasmith7066
@lisasmith7066 Год назад
They were all beautiful but Maddie had a way about her that seemed unassuming and kind. I had a hunch out of the 3 beautiful souls she was the one he was obsessed with. 😢🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊
@thatcanadianchick7589
@thatcanadianchick7589 Год назад
Oh, wow !!!
@KatAct
@KatAct Год назад
I called it! Her bedroom M and decorations were a giveaway for him.
@caho562
@caho562 Год назад
He went to take out Maddie and Kaylee was a surprise.. he left the shealth mow having to fight two ppl & the noise woke Dylan but Ethan prob opened his door to the noise after Dylan's texts..
@ashleybailey5513
@ashleybailey5513 Год назад
Makes sense
@k.h.walker2378
@k.h.walker2378 Год назад
The sheath was found beside Maddie's leg. He started with her.
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
How could he even see who he was killing the dark with two of them there unless he turned on the lights
@ashleybailey5513
@ashleybailey5513 Год назад
Penny I think it was prob dark who turns on the lights to attack someone??
@k.h.walker2378
@k.h.walker2378 Год назад
Maddie's room had a big "M" in the window
@tomvan6008
@tomvan6008 Год назад
@@pennytrue2741 There was a youtube video or Tick Tock (not sure) of Maddie showing off her room and she had a lot of those small Christmas tree lights all over in fact the living room had a wall full behind the coach of the women imitating each other. Plus Kaylee is more stocky than Maddie although they are very close in height at 5'3 or so. Maddie looks very petite body-wise. look at the photo of Maddie on Kaylee's shoulders with Xana, and Ethan outside with them also.
@devin_leary
@devin_leary Год назад
Knew it was Maddie from the start and confused on why everyone thought it was Kaylee. Very Sad.
@annic.9605
@annic.9605 Год назад
Wow. Does anyone else see this as great police work? They literally had the public convinced Kaylee was target whilst they investigated this angle further. It explains why Kaylee was brutalized as well- he was frustrated she was home and got in the way of him spending his time on Maddie.
@shannonrusso3853
@shannonrusso3853 Год назад
@Anni C. Speak for yourself, please
@jaimesantos1170
@jaimesantos1170 Год назад
The police never mentioned kaylee as the target. The public just assumed because Kaylee was the popular one in social media.
@Mrdrivereight
@Mrdrivereight Год назад
Kaylees family said she was due to her wounds not the cops. Its very possible he thought kaylee was Madison in the dark. Its dark, most people sleep with a blanket covering everything but their heads he could have just seen blonde hair went psycho then realize there was two people in the bed cause it was night time, dark and kaylee had moved out. It wasnt even her room too.
@timewa851
@timewa851 Год назад
@@Mrdrivereight Turns out, mabye 1/3rd of the renters were sleeping. The rest were up, ordering food, TikToking. House was mostly awake.
@nikkis7375
@nikkis7375 Год назад
The police haven’t said anything but facts. The rest the public has twisted around. The police told us repeatedly they are not legally allowed to tell us anything besides what was in the affidavit and search warrant
@sythmc8600
@sythmc8600 Год назад
Why do so many commenters believe these girls were asleep when a court document clearly indicates they were not? The roommate who lived heard from upstairs, "Someone is here." That comes from someone awake. The injuries weren't about one friend waking and saving the other but one man attacking both and both fighting for their lives.
@clarkness77
@clarkness77 Год назад
I think Maddy and Kaylee were asleep. Xana was the one saying someone's here. She had defensive wounds
@sythmc8600
@sythmc8600 Год назад
@@clarkness77 - She thought it came from upstairs but police believe it may have come from Xana because of her phone activity. Crying I think too came from up stair but whimpering and a thud came from Xana's room.
@lotus....
@lotus.... Год назад
Its obvious which bedroom was Maddies from the outside, because she had that M in the window with the red boots that were obviously women's boots (if I remember right from the media photos). College girls dont make it obvious which room is yours! Not victim blaming, just thinking of safety/prevention measures.
@398robin
@398robin Год назад
When anyone posts a status update or a photo on social media, you are inviting your "friends" or followers or the general public into your private life. Some people don't know what a boundary is when they start frequenting your workplace, home, gym or church. They don't have to be socially awkward like Brian Kohberger, Some can be very charming and manipulative. This happened to me and the person was dealt with legally and accordingly. This person was female and a former friend who prided herself on being "sneaky". You can put your foot down with someone without them making themselves a victim. I am just wondering what kind of personality traits lead to stalking? Are these people sociopaths or psychopaths?
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
Your points regarding boundaries are salient. I would only add that I do think people recognize them, but choose not to honor them. This, imho, is a significant red flag in whether or not to have a personal relationship with someone. If they refuse to honor personal boundaries, get as far away from them as possible.
@CreaticityIsLife
@CreaticityIsLife Год назад
Not necessarily either. Read The Gift of Fear. A lot of insight into those who perpetrate violent crimes.
@michaelpaul657atgmail5
@michaelpaul657atgmail5 10 месяцев назад
Sociopath or psychopath. Psychopath or sociopath. It makes a difference.
@chrisiman2406
@chrisiman2406 Год назад
I'd think that Kohberger was more interested in Madison rather than Kaylee because of certain reason's. Kaylee was a bit too formidable and assertive for Kohberger's liking. She represented the kind of female that he'd not like due to this. He wanted someone he felt he could control and manipulate and Kaylee certainly wasn't this type.
@katiekade7615
@katiekade7615 Год назад
💯
@IVANOOZE69
@IVANOOZE69 Год назад
damn you know all of them personally?
@mikeb2611
@mikeb2611 Год назад
@@IVANOOZE69 hahaha...so many experts up in these comments
@lobsterblacc9478
@lobsterblacc9478 Год назад
​@@IVANOOZE69 no he doesn't lol
@lobsterblacc9478
@lobsterblacc9478 Год назад
​@@mikeb2611 and you're reading their comments under videos 😂
@gentryPR
@gentryPR Год назад
Are they confirming it was his LEGIT account? Right after his name was released there were many different fake BK accounts set up. Several of them following the victims right after.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
Nothing is going to be "confirmed" because there's a gag order. You will have to wait for the trial or official information. This is a 'leak' and sometimes leaks are not accurate.
@mirosderegil
@mirosderegil Год назад
Don't expect this Ashley "woman" to do that type of homework...
@KP-oe6zi
@KP-oe6zi Год назад
Maddie's room was nearest that back parking lot. With her boots in the window. He knew her room.
@macnchessplz
@macnchessplz Год назад
So, that suggests MM might have been the main MO for this….?
@Joy-ct-pt
@Joy-ct-pt Год назад
Yeah that seems right Maddie like people she liked to make them smile an laugh an probably talk to her at her job the restaurant when he went in there for his vegan pizza really sad what a very sick guy he was Rest in Peace Maddie!
@Funsizedfiend
@Funsizedfiend Год назад
This is why my account is private and creeps get blocked.
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Still not good to have your last name..can find your address real easy
@maxineisherwood2304
@maxineisherwood2304 Год назад
Who are the sources you have? There is a gag order so I would love to know who us violating this gag order and giving you all of this information. Surely the gag order is in place to preserve and protect evidence they would use in court?
@shelley9263
@shelley9263 Год назад
I said it was Maddie from the beginning. Just my intuition. It’s all so heartbreaking. 🕊
@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions
Me too
@autumnrain2740
@autumnrain2740 Год назад
Yes I had a feeling it would be Maddie. That would seem more like BK's type. Maddie seemed so sweet and she has a beautiful smile, so I could definitely see some creepo like BK falling for her over the internet.
@hermanarivera2446
@hermanarivera2446 Год назад
It had to be Maddie because he went up to the 3rd flloor first, to Maddie's room. Kaylee was there for a visit
@EmmaDee
@EmmaDee Год назад
Is there proof??
@alexisandcolin1355
@alexisandcolin1355 Год назад
Maybe kaylee tried to protect Maddie that’s why she got it the worste
@jakespag
@jakespag Год назад
just reading the comments it's crazy how everyone just automatically believes this and everything that is said about this case
@timewa851
@timewa851 Год назад
same as Moscow/fbi believing they got their guy.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
Of course it may not turn out to be true. We'll have to wait on that so skepticism is wise. But it's certainly plausible information. Do you have reasons to believe it is NOT true?
@jakespag
@jakespag Год назад
@randygraham926 oh I'm not saying it isn't true but it's just annoying when a bunch of comments say "I knew it !!"
@jackie5522
@jackie5522 Год назад
Like wild fire isn’t it
@mirosderegil
@mirosderegil Год назад
Finally someone with some critical thinking skills! The great majority just gulp up everything this evil witch says!
@alisonmadden6522
@alisonmadden6522 Год назад
Creeper - liking all photos - hate it when guys do that
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 Год назад
Why do women post proactive pictures ? This only attracts said creepers
@H.Michele
@H.Michele Год назад
I have never in my life posted a provocative photo and I get guys doing that. I block them. Scares the hell out of me and definitely isn’t what I’m looking for.
@hexthepatriarchy
@hexthepatriarchy Год назад
​@4 4 0 - fisherman (d rock) yes, victim blame. Why do guys rape and kill is more of an appropriate question.
@almadd536
@almadd536 Год назад
@@440-fishermandrock8 Uh b/c women are women and have been since prehistoric times. Why do people wear jewelry and makeup and dress nicely. Gen Z is a social generation. They post their lives on IG. I predict this case will change some posting behavior among some college age women. Intel creepers - the guys who have liked a ton of my posts haven't just don't so on proactive pretty or other pix but even just cool humor and what not. They just like like a dozen all in one day, or all that is then public. It's just creeper.
@Kraftpunk1983vc
@Kraftpunk1983vc Год назад
@@H.Micheleliking someones photos. What if your friends? Seems like a silly thing to get weirded out about if they are not doing anything else wrong.
@cakesboo6554
@cakesboo6554 Год назад
This makes me sick 😭
@estebanleon5826
@estebanleon5826 Год назад
Men bad. Men bad. Men bad.
@LiLesah
@LiLesah Год назад
Facts
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
@@LiLesahfalse!!
@kentkearney6623
@kentkearney6623 Год назад
MEN .....MANKIND.
@lobsterblacc9478
@lobsterblacc9478 Год назад
Seems like Bryan knew that it would only be a matter of time before he was figured out. Hence the bodycam footage of his fear. He remembered that he left the sheath near Maddie because she might've been the very first main/target. Probably unbuttoned the sheath and the adrenaline took over after that. I bet Chief Fry, Bill Thompson and the FBI will highlight his steps after realizing what he left behind during the trial 😂
@user-hg2kd1nz4l
@user-hg2kd1nz4l Год назад
I wonder if his reason for coming back in the morning was to recover the sheath?
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
I think BK returned: (1) Look for the sheath; (2) There was no news re the murders that early morning so he went to check out the scene for himself; (3) If he did in fact see DM, eliminate the only living eyewitness.
@awakenwithjax
@awakenwithjax Год назад
See here’s where I began questioning whether Maddie was the intended victim….Bryan was seen at the Vegan restaurant where Maddie worked. Kaylee didn’t work there. Then Kaylee was to move to Texas, so her things were boxed up in her room ready to go. Kaylee then decides to sleep in Maddie’s room. I don’t think Bryan expected Kaylee to be in the same room as Madison. The dog though, someone put into Kaylee’s boxed up room. Was it the girls or Bryan? Nothing found on the dog. He probably went to Maddie’s room to k*ll her but found Kaylee there too. Then Ethan could have been leaving Xana’s room to get the delivery when Bryan was going downstairs. Surprised and before of course getting the food, Bryan spots Ethan an attacks him in the doorway of Xana’s room, then goes for Xana. When he’s done he leaves, passing by the downstairs roommates door that she held open for a second, on the third attempt, where she spots a guy leaving? She had no idea what was happening and had just told them to be quiet and went back to bed. Next morning tshe calls friends and realises something’s wrong then they call police. be there either.
@tracievendetta1908
@tracievendetta1908 Год назад
Horrible! Horrifying! This could happen to anyone!! 😢💔💔💔
@pitoketoo2709
@pitoketoo2709 Год назад
I gotta see this pics asap
@Yogagirl9935
@Yogagirl9935 Год назад
Since he probably only had one target, I wonder why he didn’t attack her when she was alone? But, maybe she was never alone, since she had roommates, etc?
@chach1070
@chach1070 Год назад
I understand that it’s important to report the news, but I have a bad feeling that media is going to make a fair trial really hard because they keep on releasing information that is going to affect the jury panel. I’m not saying the guy is innocent but he deserves a fair trial.
@gamersroost
@gamersroost 9 месяцев назад
And here we are 6-months later and exactly where you predicted.
@plantlovea.7841
@plantlovea.7841 Год назад
Something must of triggered him and gotten him mad to go in and kill that particular day. If he had planned it so well he would of watched to see who was home. Why go in when there are extra people at home than the usual who live there if his target was only Maddie?
@DiggersParadiseThriftShopRWhyt
So he was the starker. Wow. People said that from the start. Young lives cut short. I prayer they death sentences is handed down.
@TheBlacksheep2020
@TheBlacksheep2020 Год назад
You don't know that. Stop making stuff up just to fit your narrative 🙄
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Год назад
Kaylee must have woke up for a brief time.
@travnich
@travnich Год назад
she walked in and ruined his fantasy
@gailschwartz4037
@gailschwartz4037 Год назад
Kaylee was not asleep according to lying Dylan. She was playing with Murphy. Nobody in the house was a sleep 😴. Maybe Bethany? Maddie 75% drunk still not asleep ya boy gonna walk. I can't wait for the bushy eyebrows line up & grilling of lying Dylan. Gonna put the oj trial to shame.!!
@willettmary889
@willettmary889 Год назад
Just totally fucked up...crazy person...their lives should never have been cut of short. 😢😢😭😢
@littlesiren1
@littlesiren1 Год назад
I am still thinking it was Kaylee, if he would liked all her pictures, that'd be suspicious and he just avoided to get a block...
@Yumi_Jay
@Yumi_Jay Год назад
During the beginning of the investigation did one of the victims either Maddie or Kaylee stated that they were being stalked. Could the stalker actually be Brian?
@penelopepearl4831
@penelopepearl4831 Год назад
That's what I was thinking, since I know one of them had mentioned being stalked. I'm surprised the police have not said anything about that.
@Chrslafaye
@Chrslafaye Год назад
I don’t know maybe I’m wrong, but from what I see it seems like Ashley Banfield is devoted and obsessed with the Idaho case so deeply that she’s determined to make sure that this man does not get a fair trial!!!!! No?
@kmartgoth8313
@kmartgoth8313 Год назад
Exactly
@Consmoma
@Consmoma Год назад
How is she doing that? No hate. Genuinely asking...
@mirosderegil
@mirosderegil Год назад
Exactly! She's damn evil!
@staceonthecase8954
@staceonthecase8954 Год назад
Maybe that explains the sheath
@JosephSmith-fs9vz
@JosephSmith-fs9vz Год назад
Yeah, the idiot left the sheath on purpose thinking he was being slick
@lobsterblacc9478
@lobsterblacc9478 Год назад
​​@@JosephSmith-fs9vz he did not leave a piece of the murder weapon at the scene purposely. He got excited about catching his target and made a serious mistake
@staceonthecase8954
@staceonthecase8954 Год назад
@@JosephSmith-fs9vz because he's narcissistic
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
@@lobsterblacc9478 Yes, of course, you're right. Not sure why someone would think 'planting' evidence to help convict yourself is "being slick". 🤔🤣
@crypticnomad
@crypticnomad Год назад
It isn't surprising that the stabby guy was also a creeper
@LJE-B
@LJE-B Год назад
“Sources close to the investigation.” What crap! With a gag order in place, no “sources close to the investigation” would be spilling the beans and risking being held in contempt of court.
@tomvan6008
@tomvan6008 Год назад
Most don't but humans are not perfect and there are always people that will or told somebody close and they blabbed it etc. A lot of the time leaked scores turn out to be true after the fact.
@mrsmartypants_1
@mrsmartypants_1 Год назад
Oh look suddenly everyone “knew Maddie was the target”. 🤦‍♀️
@jayknee7438
@jayknee7438 Год назад
I think a lot of us thought it was Maddie simply because they were both killed in Maddie’s room in Maddie’s bed. And I just assumed Kaylee’s injuries were more severe because either he was angry that Kaylee was in the bed with her, or he couldn’t tell who was who in the dark.
@Aljosef6366
@Aljosef6366 Год назад
Ok. Would've been helpful reporting to remind us which girl he hurt the most. As in the stab wounds etc. One of them had different lacerations. Another had defensive wounds on the hand. I don't remember which was which
@tomvan6008
@tomvan6008 Год назад
Xana had deep cuts on her fingers indicating she was grabbing the knife (she was awake). Kaylee had more horrific wounds than the others. and Ethan had a "slash" wound on his throat and not a stab (he was stabbed also) and was found on the bed, and Xana was on the floor.
@bobcostco5748
@bobcostco5748 Год назад
Is it just me or does that sound like middle school gossip instead of professional reporting…smh
@Justin-eq7yu
@Justin-eq7yu Год назад
She was a beautiful girl
@pennytrue2741
@pennytrue2741 Год назад
I mean there are a lot of beautiful girls. Why did he pick this particular one? That’s not any reason to kill. Although psychopaths are illogical.
@automnejoy5308
@automnejoy5308 Год назад
@@pennytrue2741 It's not like he's the first to fixate on a girl, stalk her and end up killing her. It's happened many, many times.
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Same thing happened to Christina grimmie ..sad
@kerriwilliams1503
@kerriwilliams1503 Год назад
That is why Kaylee got attacked the worst....he was jealous of her
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
Doubt it she was probably fighting back and calling him names
@ashockablack1670
@ashockablack1670 Год назад
WOW...Everbody was thinking it was kaylee he was after :Sometimes its not always what it seems! R.I.P TO THE VICTIMS!!!!
@susanbroadwater7190
@susanbroadwater7190 Год назад
I wonder if LE deliberately put out false information to make the killer(s) think they were on the wrong track. This in turn would make the public think LE was the incompetent Keystone Cops. The killer(s) would have false confidence that he would get away with the murders. Examples: Saying the timeline was 3-4am, knowing Xana was on her phone until 4:12am; (2) Constantly referring to Kaylee's stalker statements, when Madison was the real & only target.
@ellerose007
@ellerose007 Год назад
This is no surprise, Maddie fits the profile of his type, just look at the past few girls he tried to date, slim & blonde. Creepy as hell. It would have been so easy to find these girls personal lives over their social media. Between where they worked and went to school. No red flags would pop up, because everyone wants likes on social media. I just hope BK's lawyer isn't collecting this for 'trial by media'. What do you think Miss Banfield? All these up dates helping? Or future hindering?
@laurelchism4268
@laurelchism4268 Год назад
I just wonder if he (Bryan) took pictures of his handiwork to relive it later since he probably thought he'd never get caught.
@ItisMeMike
@ItisMeMike Год назад
I wonder if he stalked others or just her
@hood_TheJoker
@hood_TheJoker Год назад
huge creeper turned alledged homicidal maniac
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
Have you also heard about other creepers in their area? This has to be proven in court
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 They did write "alleged" .... better than most people.
@hood_TheJoker
@hood_TheJoker Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 correct.. alleged, I made that clear
@sharonsolana
@sharonsolana Год назад
Creepy and scary.
@steve5976
@steve5976 Год назад
So where did he see her very first time to know she existed ?? Anyone know?
@wb7606
@wb7606 Год назад
I just feel like being in college and the career he was studying it seems like he wouldnt be THIS dumb. I don't know how he would ever get out of it but this is very odd because he did well in college. Yet somehow made all of these mistakes that even TV shows show what can be left behind or what can be seen on cameras ect. It's weird i feel like he is way too smart for so many mistakes. He probably enjoyed the stalking and fallowing like a game "winning" in the end in his eyes. So awful 😣
@Mel__21
@Mel__21 Год назад
This is the comment I’ve been looking for! I really do think he was way to smart to just end up making so many “mistakes” like this. I keep thinking he planned it all on purpose for all of us to think he was a stalking one them and went after her. Nope. He just did all of this so he can be easily caught and become “famous” in his own sick twisted way.
@wb7606
@wb7606 Год назад
@@Mel__21 I mean even some first time killers never made those mistakes everyone knows there are cameras everywhere these days too.
@cb3816
@cb3816 Год назад
I think she gave him the wrong look or said something he knew where she worked and her name that’s where the stalking began and was planning it as many was saying kaylee I felt like Madison was indeed his target
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Год назад
I'm sure she followed mad Greek and that's where he found her name to follow her too..
@thetouristaonTikToc
@thetouristaonTikToc Год назад
This was also subliminal messaging, basically there’re telling us without telling us the same girl who’s Instagram photos they found on his phone (Maddie) is the same girl that they found the pictures on his phone of after he k ill ed her.
@RostClan220
@RostClan220 Год назад
Hard to know what to believe . Affidavit says nothing about it. Motive is still not known. I’ll wait for the trial
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