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Space-Time Dynamics in Video Feedback 

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A film by Jim Crutchfield, Entropy Productions, Santa Cruz (1984). Original U-matic video transferred to digital video. 16 minutes.
See csc.ucdavis.edu/~chaos/chaos/f...
Citation: J. P. Crutchfield, "Space-Time Dynamics in Video Feedback". Physica 10D (1984) 229-245.
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@Ribo138
@Ribo138 4 года назад
“Noise-driven spatial structures in a relaxation oscillator” sounds like every good drug trip
@biggwatt
@biggwatt 4 года назад
Finally a documentary about the creation of the universe.
@user-jt5ot4hy9q
@user-jt5ot4hy9q 8 лет назад
I've been dabbling with this stuff since art school in the 70's and I've found there's a huge difference in the effects that different camera-monitor combinations can create. I was able to get things with VHS and tube monitors that I can't get with the digital equipment now (and vice-versa). Also, if you mount the camera you'll get more-controlled, steady images, but not nearly as creative as hand-held can produce by moving through different parts of the image. But a hand-held feed-back loop is an extremely sensitive thing to maintain and the micro-panning required takes the patience and control of a Zen master.
@BetamaxFlippy
@BetamaxFlippy 8 лет назад
B/W cameras/TVs are probably the best to make clean cycles, just look at the Doctor Who theme from 1963
@a2deh
@a2deh 6 лет назад
The secret of maximum chaos is to use a video camera (or analog video processor like Jim Crutchfield does in this video, or I suppose you could use a digital computer if you really wanted to) that inverts the brightness (plus whatever other less dramatic distortions you want to mix in). That way black goes to white and white goes to black, so it never fully washes out to white or fades out to black, and there's always something exciting happening, since the candle can never blow out. I once had an old video camera that actually had a built-in switch that did that, and was perfect for video feedback!
@ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1
@ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1 5 лет назад
L7 I had similar experience with analog and digital guitar/synth effects.
@thelightherder
@thelightherder 3 года назад
I found that all to be true also - so I made this device to enable fine control over the camera position and rotation (I'm now in the process of adding a second rotating rod that will have a small monitor on it). You can see the device here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wMeV98BHLVE.html
@foto21
@foto21 Год назад
I did amazing feedback in the late 80s early 90s, but you're right, once the tvs and video cameras changed, it pretty much stopped being as interesting as far as the circular aboriginal style that would sit there and crawl like living bacteria. I've actually managed to find the old camera I used, now I just need the right old cathode ray television, though they are disappearing quick, and oddly enough, even ones from the early 2000s won't get the job done. I need a TV from the 80s. Recently, I saw the work of a younger guy using a modern video switcher that is pretty amazing. I took some notes on what he's using. Of course, this is a non-paying hobby, although I plan to use it as one source for layering in a twitch channel. It's kind of amazing that there is probably feedback out there that could've been made with particular equipment and never was and is permanently lost in time. I made several hours on VHS, but it would be cool to go back and do more. I also had some other tricks. There were ways to add more imagery into the feedback loop that it would use to turnover on top of.
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 10 лет назад
This is nothing less than an expression of how consciousness creates EVERYTHING simply by the shifting of focus back onto itself.
@hojdog
@hojdog 10 лет назад
Lol. Ok mate. Whatever you say.
@santashelpa
@santashelpa 9 лет назад
thats right, without consciousness recognising itself there would be no reality, there would be no substance. Such is the paradox of life and death.
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 9 лет назад
Ross Oldenburg When machines do it, it's interesting and fascinating. When consciousness does it, it's mystical.
@rizn79
@rizn79 8 лет назад
+Roy Dopson thanx, i was looking for such a idea in the comments.
@Lavender_1618
@Lavender_1618 3 года назад
@@Nonconceptuality the reason that is, is because both are revealing underlying realities of the nature of space time. Its only interesting/fascinating/fun when watching machines do it, because we are missing the emotional component. So its like...."look at that, isnt that neat". When brains do it, not only do we have the visual component, the emotional brain also starts feedbacking in such a way, which allows the emotional brain to perceive the same mathematical nature of reality. Obviously the human interpretation of that would be like "holy shit, everything is stemming from one thing, and thats the meaning of life". But really all both are, are just representations of the core mathematics of life. When we watch machines do it, we're missing the qualia part of the experience. Thats why one is "mystical" and the other is "fascinating"
@robinhollinger3531
@robinhollinger3531 6 лет назад
I'm so relaxed watching this...
@notthebees4961
@notthebees4961 4 года назад
The pattern at 4:40 reminds me of the educational video about how to turn a sphere inside out
@alexanderaultman
@alexanderaultman 10 лет назад
15 minutes not wasted.
@MicahBuzanMUSIC
@MicahBuzanMUSIC 9 месяцев назад
The sound adds a whole new level to these images
@gooseyinthesky
@gooseyinthesky 10 лет назад
after watching this i'm not sure if i'm still alive tbh
@russ1618
@russ1618 10 лет назад
You are not alive. Nothing is alive. There is no life. There is no matter, or energy. Reality does not exist. All that is, is a bit of math solving itself.
@cyborghyena
@cyborghyena 9 лет назад
russ1618 Reality is like a coin flip, except the said coin has more than two sides. Our minds could indeed be creating all that we know and see, and be nothing more than a set of numbers crunching until they expire, OR it could a shit ton of other things.
@russ1618
@russ1618 9 лет назад
cyborghyena , of course, everything could be anything. Whatever it is will still be mathematical.
@intratis
@intratis 4 года назад
How would you know if you haven't already been dead before ?
@BetamaxFlippy
@BetamaxFlippy 6 лет назад
Now we need to get hold of the original tapes and do a proper 60fps transfer in 720p
@edkenndy
@edkenndy 2 года назад
I have the tape! But when I ripped it I got 720p ha. There's a second section on my video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-erRR3LmKLD0.html - I never knew they were already uploaded!
@user-jt5ot4hy9q
@user-jt5ot4hy9q 8 лет назад
Aside from smooth camera control, distance from the monitor, zoom, and rotation are all important. Ideally, the camera should keep a dead-center aim while being able to rotate vertically 360 degrees. At 180 degrees, every other signal is upside down and its this bouncing back and forth to infinity that generates patterns. Just like you'd draw a star, that angle makes stars. But you get the same sequence of patterns in reverse order in the up-swing from 180-360. If you split the feed into several projectors projecting images close together and film it, the images begin to work as one.
@russ1618
@russ1618 10 лет назад
I wish there were a instructional portion the video. My soldering iron would already be warming up.
@sumnerd
@sumnerd 11 лет назад
That must have been fun, Jim, and a lot of work!
@jonah_sais_quoi
@jonah_sais_quoi 9 дней назад
a video camera views its monitor and gains sentience
@Shawndoh
@Shawndoh 9 лет назад
This is what happens when you leave my teenage self alone with the video camera. The subsequent LSD trips are enigmatic.
@olbluelips
@olbluelips 3 года назад
Am I crazy for thinking this is kind of profound?
@Lavender_1618
@Lavender_1618 3 года назад
nope, it totally is. It shows the underlying nature of reality. Now do DMT so you can throw your emotional brain and sensory perception into this exact same experience and actually live it
@LoganGuerra
@LoganGuerra 3 года назад
Awesome thanks for sharing.
@RootsAndRhythmDenver
@RootsAndRhythmDenver 10 лет назад
I like your style.
@SnepperStepTV
@SnepperStepTV 7 месяцев назад
I'd love a umatic copy, but this deserves a wider-spread VHS release, too. Calling Basement Labs......
@mapiasal
@mapiasal 10 лет назад
Doing this is pretty easy. It's just a feedback loop. I used to do this in 1991 or 1992 with a small handheld camcorcder hooked up to the input on my tv. Started recording it one night, and created some amazing videos(they are around somewhere on an old hi8 videotape). Set them to music, showed some friends in college how to do it and never really thought about it again till tonight.
@B4DMANNN
@B4DMANNN 7 лет назад
you should upload those if you find them
@Am_I_really_not_really_I_AM
@Am_I_really_not_really_I_AM 2 года назад
Did you happen to be in Dallas when you did this? If so, ever show it to 2 long haired headbangers on lsd who somehow found themselves tripping amongst a large group of preppies who were also on lsd in a very nice house somewhere around Deep Ellum?
@mapiasal
@mapiasal 2 года назад
@@Am_I_really_not_really_I_AM it was actually in Jeddah Saudi Arabia when I was 14 years old in 1992
@rylankreps
@rylankreps 2 года назад
May I use some of the footage in this video?
@festagio
@festagio 6 лет назад
This is really interesting. Do you have any information about the music at all?
@joepowers9080
@joepowers9080 4 года назад
Agree, music is wonderful
@4ltrz555
@4ltrz555 3 года назад
Physics, by Richard Burmer
@4ltrz555
@4ltrz555 3 года назад
@@joepowers9080 ☝️
@loriscericolaziggy
@loriscericolaziggy 2 года назад
somebody knows how to get one of the original tape?
@user-kx4dj5hp7g
@user-kx4dj5hp7g 2 года назад
Is it possible to create life in a two-dimensional world with this method?
@ap-ou8mx
@ap-ou8mx 3 года назад
超いい
@krish2nasa
@krish2nasa 5 лет назад
Mesmerizing effects! Is this how emergence will raise?
@nenirouvelliv
@nenirouvelliv 3 года назад
tfw this discarded video footage actually becomes eventually the bedrock of the Grand Unifying Theory of Everything.
@ivanchew972
@ivanchew972 4 года назад
wasted 15 minutes 33 seconds of my glasses trying to find my life after watching me watching this in a video
@OokamiKageGinGetsu
@OokamiKageGinGetsu 10 лет назад
Looks like a video camera version of a spirograph.
@lukasheat6412
@lukasheat6412 2 года назад
does someone know the name of the track by minute 4:14
@jarblewarble
@jarblewarble 5 лет назад
Would it be accurate to describe this system as a kind of analog computer?
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 3 года назад
yes
@valeriahernan
@valeriahernan 8 лет назад
who made the music? this is pure beauty
@rainbowbrain
@rainbowbrain 8 лет назад
richard burmer - excerpts from "mosaic" eberhard schoener - "bali agung" - Nadi m nature - rio chama* *I can't find anything about this artist or track on the internet. And if you can find it, a similar soundtrack accompanies Fortuna Records/Synopsis Video "Watercolors" (VHS). Another one I can't find on the internet.
@valeriahernan
@valeriahernan 8 лет назад
You just opened me a path of incredible knowledge, thank you very very much for this
@rainbowbrain
@rainbowbrain 8 лет назад
Then allow me to save you the trouble of finding that tracklist. (I should have just posted it with that other comment!) ------- Watercolors video track list (1989) steve roach - levels richard burmer - excerpts from Bhakti point steve roach - reflections in suspension richard burmer - winter on the wind mike christopher - fire walker steve roach - snow canon richard burmer - physics richard burmer - 88 steve roach - spheres kevin braheny - lullabys from the hearts of space richard burmer - riverbend richard burmer - Ela-A (theme #2) steve roach - the ritual continues kevin monahan - blue future steve roach - canyon sound
@valeriahernan
@valeriahernan 7 лет назад
a year has past, cant thank you enough for this soundtrack
@mithermage
@mithermage 4 года назад
@@valeriahernan wholesome youtube interaction !!
@foto21
@foto21 6 месяцев назад
I created some feedback that looked a lot like the virus like imagery in yellow in the middle of this video (I have hours of it and I still have never seen anything like it. Also not sure how you'd make it in effects programs. It could be done, but it would take forever). You had to rotate the camera to get it moving, which was pretty surreal. it was very weird getting something so organic out of a television and a video camera, it was kind of creepy as if something was attempting to exit the electronics. Ironically, as cameras and televisions both advanced, the feedback changed, but mostly got less interesting, and less stable (meaning the gear was more stable at wiping out abberations). I found some interesting combinations with projectors, but can't really reveal what I was doing but it was nuts. Plus not every camera and every tv worked either. There were specific brands that worked, and as I said, by the mid 90s, the gear changed the look and then stopped generating it overall. However, there is a guy posting on RU-vid who has been using more recent video mixers, and getting some wild results.
@lobstotsbol
@lobstotsbol 4 дня назад
who was the guy?
@daemonants4733
@daemonants4733 Год назад
And when the universe looks at itself too closely, all it sees is quantum foam.
@hojdog
@hojdog 10 лет назад
How did you create stable objects whenever I've tried it all goes mental fast
@MerlynChipman
@MerlynChipman 9 лет назад
Zoom out, lock in a whole number symmetry, turn down your saturation, then bring it back up slowly.
@elasand9821
@elasand9821 3 года назад
Found this via Andrés Gómez’ presentation on the fresh “Symmetry Theory of Valence”, attempting to explain why these patterns feels so good: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tSPZ4xt5f2k.html
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 4 года назад
Been experimenting with video feedback for a few years now,different cameras different screens. Can tell you there is a deeper "something" going on . Obvious "sacred" symbols will return again and again.. Landscapes and clouds all kinds of recognisable terrain and topologies
@Tyrell_begay100
@Tyrell_begay100 6 месяцев назад
Hello
@ionwraymedia
@ionwraymedia День назад
Shazam sends me to a rapper that sampled the music, not the actual music? Can someone make a track listing of these tunes? I feel like Steve Roach is in there somewhere?
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 3 года назад
Winamp visualizations but they're analog.
@Tyrell_begay100
@Tyrell_begay100 28 дней назад
Hi man
@woonyhax5039
@woonyhax5039 5 лет назад
This is gold! Thinking about all the Math comments...Math is limited, as it is a human expression. Mathematical solvers, derivatives, etc. can only ever propagate a partial of the full construct.
@woonyhax5039
@woonyhax5039 5 лет назад
Also love all the synth tunes in this one!
@olbluelips
@olbluelips 3 года назад
@@woonyhax5039 I think you underestimate math a little. It doesn't have to follow ordinary "human" rules. You can use any appropriate axioms for a system, and do some very very abstract maths.
@robertdaviduballe.3608
@robertdaviduballe.3608 6 лет назад
"Legal Notice" by Robert David Uballe iCopyrighted All Right’s Reserved on Parts or all of whatever’s with or byproducts of Apple Software the origin software and hardware Apple computer company and ibm dell radios television and telegraphs Morse code pony express and trans Union Pacific.
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