Speedpaints Review: I'm Never Buying Contrast Paint Again. Army Painter Speedpaint is Good! 

Hi I am a beginner painter and was still struggling with painting up until about a year ago. Slapchop with contrast filling its the easiest painting has ever beenPERIOD. I would not discourage beginners from contrast paint.

What would you recommend to start with as a beginner with limit amount of time? Exactly this version of speedpaints 2.0 and the spray as well? Any other stuff I should take into consideration? Thanks

Money will he thrown at you when you release this.

Reception seems pretty good in general. I'll be trying them for sure.

I'm going to start saving up for this set. It looks great.

Yeah, hoping that an affordable larger bottle of the thinning medium will be available soon. Many of the speed paints seem quite dark and it would be useful to be able to thin these for use as washes/tinting. Keeping these accessible to folks will certainly make these a staple going forward. Congrats as well on the overall favourable and enthusiastic response from the community.

Many of the finshed test models have a "grainy texture" to them (3:24 is probably the best example). I have seen this in other tests of your speedpaint line-up. How would you go about to limit this?

You're an absolute genius...

Guess I will be priming me some lids soon!

Giants a really good idea thanks

This is the smartest thing I've heard all day :D

I got in the habit of painting lids 20 years ago. Thought it was a thing everyone did

hehehehee :-)

excellent! :)

Stay cozy. "Ribbit"

IKR, literally makes watching paint dry interesting!

Girl same.

Yeah. I'm a latecomer to the channel, and I really find "comfortable" to watch the videos. I really like the approach, very different from the many flamboyant jokers that crowd the Tube.

He is the Bob Ross of mini painting, Miniac is the Sham-Wow guy on a coke binge of mini painting.

Hey thanks Duncan! Hope you're having a great day :-)

possible further choice in the two thin coats range ?

@@GoobertownHobbies u know u’ve made it as a hobby youtuber when u got the famous 2thincoatsDuncan watching and commenting 🥰😉🐶

@@JakeDogg-RIP No, you haven't made it as a hobby youtuber unless Eons of Battle comments.

@@JasonM69 Jay and Nick not famous like a Duncan is 🤷‍♂️🐶

Oh yeah, you'll love these! :-)

Glad you liked the review, thank you so much! Have a great day :-)

The hero

What a LAD

The Legend

thx mate. super helpful

You've got lots of time to spare. Thank you for spending it here 😁

Right on! I'm glad it was useful- thanks for hanging out in goobertown :-)

About the color swatches. . . they're not labeled for how you primed those samples. Are they over black? White?

@goobertown hobbies. Great video, very informative. You mentioned using gloss for under coating. Which brand / type did you use?

Bumper/Intro: While I do appreciate the reviews from creators such as yourself and to show such I watch fully comment and updoot, there is one bit of feedback to Army Painter I wish I could get to them. Upfront declaration of conflict of interest: My go tos for paint are Army Painter, Vallejo, and Liquitex, with some toes in other brands so I am probably going to buy the hell out of these to expand my toolkit. Intro: Look, the appeal to authority argument is great and giving these to influencers in our community has to be great roi for advertising dollars so I get it. However, they started like in the middle of last year for a product at the time slated for release in march of `22. I get building hype but for many products in our niche those reviews typically pretty close to release time to build the hype at an appropriate time. (and subtly manipulate that BUY NOW and FOMO gremlin). Which I also agree can be a pain for the CC because these vids don't just magically appear (see your commentary on the subject, and also Guy's from Midwinter minis for further support). Problem and clarification: But the problem with the building it too early is now in every video of this product that gets released, I am reminded that: I...can't...buy...this...product. (insert subconscious negative attachments to the brand). Like I said, they started this a couple of quarters ago. This has happened enough to where I have literally been conditioned to have a mild negative emotional response to their product, which is NEVER the intent of the marketing roadmap. And I realize that I am not special or unique or some wonderful snowflake out in the drift so I am sure I am not the only one who has gotten that...I guess Pavlovian...unintended conditioning. (note at the time of writing we're having some rather pretty snow in my region hence the analogy. and also marketing is just weaponized psych so I get it.) I mean, you even had to comment that we can't get it yet so there is evidence I am preaching to the choir as it were, and as a qualifier under no circumstances am I faulting you, any other content creators, or the manufacturer. (I just want to be clear sense we can't see each other's faces or tone of voice that NONE of this is trying to be like...awful or internet-y or whatever). Context: And yes I am aware of the Geedubooyas colored elephant in the room...so I get the push. Especially because people get, weirdly tribal about paint sometimes, but to the marketing team @ Army I would like to tell them that you might have stumbled a little with such a long lead in and sooo many previews spread out. A little more clustered closer to the...quarter...of release might be better. Markets tend to have ADHD and goldfish memory for advertising dollars. Bumper/Close: Thank you for your super chill content, and your advice with painting, I literally use some of your tutorials when I am introducing newbies to the hobby to demystify it, and I like the vid. If, the company asks for any feedback, you could pass on my random internet rambling concerns, it would be appreciated. If not cool, you owe us (and me) nothing in particular and I certainly don't want any extra effort on you guys part. Again thanks and hopefully this is taken in a way that in no means is aggressive or condemning or misconstrued.

@@GauldameGauldame They've been marketing these for about 3 months and have only recently started taking pre-orders. Ever thought that some of the previews are spread out because some content creators can't just drop everything to knock out a video and they might have sat with the paints for weeks or months? There's also the fact that not every hobbyist can afford to just drop $100 at a moment's notice on their hobby and having some lead time gives some them a chance to put a few bucks away, unlike say Games Workshop with their FOMO BS...

@@Gauldame what is Luiqitex?

@@Gauldame But how about the video? Do you like the video? The Army Painter has a website and a contact us link. Let them know how you feel about FOMO and building hype.

@@steveisaak4320 8:46 - shows the medium brand

You should watch Squidmar miniatures for a more in-depth review of the pros and cons

​@@clarkey7760 I remember that video. Personally I still feel like the pros are very negligible, and are far outweighed by cons.

@@clarkey7760 i dont need to watch someone talk about it to know what everyone who has worked with artist paints already knows, containers that you can drop out of are better.

@@stevejohncockram For you. I've never had a dropper bottle I've liked. I'd rather use GW's pots. They have their issues, but one that is overblown is their sturdiness. For the short bottles I find it's super hard to knock them over. Read as, you need to intentionally knock it over. The tall bottles are a bit tricky, but if my ADHD ass can remember it's there and not knock it over, then other people can too. And if you're going to be putting it in a pallet like you have to when you use a dropper bottle, then close the bottle and you don't have to worry about it. GW pots aren't that bad. You hate them and I respect your opinion, but your subjective opinion isn't fact. Stop treating dropper bottles like a damn cult.

dzreamer I’m more interested in the paints than the containers, plus if you’re that fussed you can transfer them into different containers.

Right on! I got those smaller packages in the mail too, and I liked what I saw, but I was holding out for the full range review. I guess they were just taking their time to get Sand Golem extra spicy! :-)

@@GoobertownHobbies I love how you approach everything scientific. You can clearly see how the paints work and how each color behaves under different circumstances. It sure is a lot of work but it does pay off! Thanks for doing it the way you do

@@Stevie28 The flip side, Squidmar seemed wholly unimpressed.

@@AustinLindstrom Squidmar uses mostly gw paints, i rarely see him using vallejo, scale75, AM or other brands... If he had a deep knowledge about paint brands, i could take his advice more seriously...

@@Manlio.Cipullo Then check Vince Venturella on YT who has an almost encyclopedic knowledge of the different paint ranges on the market and who's pretty agnostic about brands. Great tutorials and advice too.

Says the RU-vidr that has done over a 100 videos with Speedpaint hahahaha ;-)

@@awijntje14 Hey, it's trending right now, can you blame us? 😁 I'm glad other painters are liking them too.

@@WatchItPaintIt get it while the goin's good! in the first 2 hours this is my strongest video launch ever...

@@WatchItPaintIt These videos were my introduction to your channel and why I subbed!

@@redscope897 I mean every review I've seen all say they are better than contrast for a lower price.

Same!!

I love the pooling effect personally. The idea that what I see is what I get seems like you'd be able to brush out any heavy spots before it dries too much.

I honestly might make that video hahaha :-)

At least six months here as well. I had recently bought about six citadel contrast paints and used them with mixed results... Maybe it's time to go back to the brush.

Ahh, a moment of pure rage! It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. :-)

@@cams.2083 I will when Judgement Eternal Champions comes out. For now I've been focusing on creative writing.

My low point is still spilling a pot of Leadbelcher on a friend's bag, completely ruining it. I've since started transfering GW paints from those vile pots into dropper bottles and I'm far happier this way

@@DrMcCoy How do you do that without wasting a lot of paint?

right? I'm on Team Sand Golem for sure :-)

Sand golem over silver looks better than retributor armor and probably covers way better and you can't change my mind.

Dana Howl's video looks at a few of these on space marine shoulder pads compared to contrast paints, you might wanna check that out!

I do think that applying contrast/speedpaints to really flat surfaces is kind of a waste, they really work best with textured surfaces.

@@Brickfrog427 You're not wrong, but if I'm painting a mini I'm not going to want to try and match colors between the flat and more textured areas, I wanna hit the whole thing with the same paint even if it's not using the speed or contrast paint to its fullest.

I wish mini paints were more like artist paints and actually told you what pigments were in there! it's so frustrating to have to guess!!! :-)

Take a look at Kimera Kolors - they are the only mini paints actually addressing this I think. Fortunately, we can also use professional paints for mini painting as well (eg. Golden high flow)

Man I feel you on this one! I switched to liquitex acrylic gouache for that reason. I know what I'm mixing and how they will react together and can control how muddy or vibrant its going to be. The ratios are also quite easy to maintain. Wish mini paints would be more ''transparent'' on this. But these paints look like a thing I may enjoy using over my gesso base to color and get rid of the texture to use my good brushes faster.

heck yeah!! :-)

They really did!!

Try a green or a blue/green mix over a copper or gold basecoat. Some of the best verdigis I have seen.

wooo!

@@GoobertownHobbies For the avoidance of doubt, the paint drying was interesting an useful to see.

Nice!! I'm telling my FLGS owner he really needs to get in on this stuff :-)

It's always good to have multiple reviews from goobers at different skill levels! :-)

Hey thanks! Have fun with these when you get them :-)

Hehehe, now you have something new to try! enjoy :-)

I'm really glad to hear that, thank you! Keep on painting, my friend :-)

@@GoobertownHobbies thanks. I just wish they sold them also as single colours, rather than only in boxes, but I hope that they will eventually do this.

I'm thinking about using these to paint up my Defiance Shasvasti

I saw that technique and i have to try it as fast and i can.

Just for my information: 1.Prime Black 2. Dry brush white 3. Speedpaint color of my Choice 4. Normal paints for Details etc?

What type of paint do you use for dry brushing them white?

any video tutorial ?

@@micha1205 yes

Hehehehe, those timelapses were fun :-)

Thanks for watching, hope it was useful! :-)

@@GoobertownHobbies Certainly was!

hehehe, I can't help it! :-)

I don't mind the pots, I don't like how inconsistent contrasts are our how you gotta guess how it's gonna look

I wouldn’t bother, all the paint colors are exactly the same, if you already have contrast paints there’s no point in buying these unless you run out of a pot of contrast. It really irritates me that they just ripped off the colors 1 for 1 instead of making some different colors that people who already have contrast paint would actually buy. You don’t poach someone from a job by offering them the exact same money and benefits, you need to offer more, and Army Painter is offering the same if not less.

So, you like being charged more for a worse product, hmm? That explains why you like GW. Speedpaint has similar colors - because both GW and AP are covering the same basic colors - shocking, I know. Speedpaint is a lot more consistent across the line - Contrast is a great idea, with mediocre implimentation. There are Contrast colors that are excellent - Wyldwood will be remaining as one of my main choices. Others are horrible globby crap - the Dark Angels Green will be replaced with Speedpaint. But you gleefully ignore the price gouging that GW routinely engages in. The Speedpaints have moderate improvements over Contrast - and are more reasonably priced. A better product at a better price.

@@sindrimyr2423 It’s a new color range. Of course they’re going to offer all the basic colors people need. This is how paint ranges work. If the basic colors sell well, and at this price point I don’t see how they can’t, I’m sure they’ll expand the range.

@@bogatyr2473 yeah, sure they’ll expand the range at some point. When will that be? In 2 years? It already took them almost a year to release this range, they gave us 23 colors that’s no excuse for every single one of them to be the same at the colors of contrast. At least 3 should be totally unique.

oh yeah, gotta have some test models!!! :-)

Hey thanks! I'm glad you enjoy these :-)

they look great over zenithal! :-)

@@GoobertownHobbies You dry brushed white minis inspired me too. Loved the look, thanks for a new way of looking at speed paint potential.

Oh yeah, I love a good slapchop! :-)

They're hiding sand golem and plasmatic bolt in the mega... that's how they getcha! :-)

@@GoobertownHobbies lol, for me its more that Cloudburst Blue and Purple Academy. Printed up some OnePageRules aliens and those would be perfect. Though I'm also really wanting Grim Black, Slaughter Red, Dark Wood, and now that medium.

Would be interested in this as well!!

Aaand you got aired 😂😂😂😂 do your self a favour and stop watching this creep who thinks hes cute's videos

Thanks for watching, I'm glad you appreciated this! These are definitely fun paints, I'm excited for the community to learn more about them and really figure out what niche they fill :-)

Nice! Give it a shot and have fun :-)

That sounds like the effect of a flow-aid (such as that seen in Vallejo airbrush flow improver). Contrast does the same if you apply it before it is fully dried. I could imagine these army painter paints take an even longer time to dry. Solution would be to wait 24-48 hours - but I can see how that would not be convenient for many painters! You can use flow improver to ‘erase’ acrylic that hasn’t fully cured. It’s a neat technique.

I didn't test this widely, but it's a valid concern. I waited ~8 hours between coats and worked quickly with subsequent layers. I didn't have a problem, but I was vigilant to avoid reactivation. I'm glad stahly is looking into this!!! :-)

Two tones? You're very lucky! Mine has only a tint of Carroburg Crimson (but at least it's a very large stain!)

@@Moxiltws In the end, don't they all blend together to look like Agrax anyway? :D

I recommend pouring half the bottle on your desk each time you take off the cap

I already bought a bunch of contrast paints, so there's always room for them till the pots run dry :) They work very similarly, so there's no reason to stop using contrast if there's a color you love.

I mean they don't have a analogue for every contrast. They seem to be missing Akhelian Green, Magos Purple, etc.

I'm not throwing out my contrast paints, but at half the price and a better bottle... yeah I'm pretty sure I'm never going to buy a contrast paint again... MAYBE if I was doing a group project and needed to standardize a color or something...

@@GoobertownHobbies Yeah I don't know why G.W stays with that paint pot style.

@@markgrehan3726 Because they are more prone to having the paint dry out unless you are meticulous in cleaning the dried bits from the lid - faster 'dry out' of paint = more sales for GW