Kanika Batra a diagnosed sociopath (ASPD) reveals how she can spot narcissistic individuals and how easy it is to control them #sociopath #narcissist #viral
@@justines1919 i’m a recovering narcissist. although it was never expressed, i believe i hurt people (especially friends) unintentionally. The attention was always on me and my life. I couldn’t care less about anything else. Once I hit about 18, i realized i didn’t even know anything about my so called “friends”. That was a turning point for me. We don’t always know that we’re hurting one another. In my case, I don’t think i was unkind, just selfish. But there are some assholes who deserve some fire back 🔥🔥🔥🔥 and NOTHING else will make them behave. It’s not all black and white
The moment my dad started trying to tell me my doormat of a mother is a narcissist, I knew he was one. I saw the signs, the ego, the violent anger at the smallest criticism, and the years of emotional neglect and abuse. But that one crystallized it. I wish I could get him diagnosed some way, but he is violently allergic to even the eye doctor, let alone someone who sees through his bullshit for their job, there is 0 hope...
Maybe that’s a sign 🪧 think about it, just the thought of a doc evaluating terrifies him.. Like as if the doc will see right through him on the first appointment. I think he might be scared to be revealed! I think to him it might be removing the bandaid 🩹 from the deep seated wound. Like what Kanika talks about!
@@augiemay8677 yeah, I hope you find a happy option in your situation. I went no contact and saved the before-mentioned doormat mother from his orbit too. When you can't help the sufferer himself you can at least try mitigating the damage caused to the ppl you care about (as long as you are yourself safe at first, of course)
Just know that getting a narc diagnosed WON’T make them change unless they WANT to change, and even then, it will be a life long struggle. Just accept your dad for who he is and deal with him accordingly. (I know it’s hard, but they will never hold themselves accountable.)
Oi, you are so right. People call everyone a narcissist these days-and half of the time the people saying it are just very entitled people. Thanks for sharing. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Remember though, being a narcissist doesn't mean you have NPD. Ones a diagnosis and one is just a word in the English dictionary that means someone who has selfish and self loving traits
@@MellowJellyhat’s not how it works and it’s wrong to go around calling people that. Literally everyone has selfish and narcissistic traits but it’s not the same as being a diagnosed narcissist
@@mrcornfoot Honestly never knew I was one until I found out, I thought everyone was like me. I might not feel the same level of empathy than others but I feel when I hurt someone, some narcs can’t be self aware enough to know they are the problem in others and their own lives. I’m trying to become more aware of my impact on others. there’s so much more i cant rly type it all but I would love to explain it to you in a video or video call!
My mom literally wrote herself a note about how shes so natural and beautiful, and told me that a homeless man wrote it for her- shes put it on her wall. Its so embarrassing when you are able to stop them abusing you for the most part.
Samething here, got told the stroy be the narcisist (she was my boss). Then I had to quit then I had to quit because she tried to pay me less than halve of that what is considered minimum wage for the work I did. First she tried to guild trip me so that I think I broke her trust and destroyed her business. Later that day she insulted me and thretened me with a lawsuit for fraud... The thing is the time I worked (with a spoken contract) for her she was the kindest boss I've ever had... Sidenote: I have some friends who are policemen and they asured me I did nothing wrong and told me I should report her for tax evasion, since she tried to hire me basically for a full time job but as a freelancer which is illegal in my country (that way the boss doesn't have any taxes for the worker). Edit: sorry for any grammar mistakes english isn't my first language.
Omg....that makes so much sense now.....my dad was a suspected sociopath (by a therapist the few times he went to couples therapy with my mom). Everyone in my family thinks my mom has some type of pd (mainly narcissism). Makes so much sense why she ESPECIALLY had troubles with him..
@@lookin4you It's more like if one has to live with a narcissist from a younger age and abuse is occurring 3 significant things can happen based on resilience, self preservation, intuition and grooming. First result, is getting abused by the narcissist cause you can't put up the emotional barriers to block out the torment and insecurities they drill into you. Second result is being finessed into a narcissist by favor of the narcissist just imprinting themselves into you and you'll become one. You escape most harsh negatives from them because they teach and raise you wrong but it plays into thier ego of molding you. Third and rarest result is becoming a sociopath because you'd have honned self-awareness through observations and assimilated the mental disassociation tactics that protect you from them
I've known enough true narcissists that I can spot them from a mile away now. You are so right--as long as you're feeding their need for praise and validation, they are so vulnerable to manipulation it's almost sad.
I love the ending. My dad is a narcissist. He is healing and has even started going to therapy with me. Healing doesn't mean they'll instantly stop behaving the way they used to. I love how compassionate you are even towards people like narcissists.
@@user-wu3pk3su3dlook up cluster B personality disorder. They have different disorders but have over lap symptoms and traits. They are Borderline Personality, Anti Social Personality Disorder, and Histrionic personality disorder
I believe that, in addition to a grandiose self-image, and intolerance of criticism, a narcissist thinks they can never be wrong, do wrong or have a flawed worldview. They are always right and will manipulate a situation to ensure that, no matter the absurdity. 1 + 1 will = 3 if they say so.
Unrelated, but watching your shorts helped me build up the courage I needed to ask my boss for a raise after I found out that my new coworkers were making more than me even though I’ve been with the company longer. Thank you for helping me learn to advocate for myself.
Good job and glad you kept your power on yourself rather then giving your power away via “not fair-ism gambits”. You’ll do better and better as time goes on with self advocacy and also helping others. Mix these two-
I love that last comment, "Don't hurt a narc who is trying to heal, though." I'm a reformed Borderline personality disordered individual. I had so many narcissistic traits and a few other deeply concerning things going on. Now I'm so healed that i no longer qualify for my diagnosis. It would have been very different if someone had tried to hirt me whilst I was healing.
I'm so glad she made sure to end on such an important point. We should aim to simply deincentivise unhealthy behaviour and encourage people to work on themselves, not just mess with people to enjoy their pain. If they're healing, we need to let them, it's what we want.
My dad was a diagnosed narcissist and even though I didn’t get the brunt of it (sadly my older sister did). I’ve heard plenty of stories about how my dad would manipulate my sister to put my mom down, and I vividly remember my dad yelling and arguing. Good news is, we haven’t talked to him face to face since 2012 and still going strong. My mom’s strong too and has bounced back greater than ever
Just ignore them. Easiest and most non dramatic way that will leave you the better person. Don’t chat about them with friends or pay them any mind. Your energy and attention is their supply. When at work don’t respond to non work related conversations and just focus. They will go out of their way to “try” and make themselves a priority in your life. If you have to conversate make it nonchalant and seem preoccupied like their annoying and you have to other more important things to do.. because you do!
😂😂😂❤❤❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾the Narc who only works on Saturdays during peak season and stopped voluntarily working them the other 43 weeks when he acquired the new supply.. decided to show up to work last Saturday unannounced!! I ignored him for 2 whole days prior to this which made him act like likes money.. I don’t bump into him any other time until i pick up our son despite working for the same company.
This is true. I know a guy that is a narc and he is actually easy to manipulate since he’s always looking to inflate his own ego. If you can give him ideas of ways to do that he will take the bait. So it’s true that they seem easier to manipulate than just any average person
What I've learned from psychology/psychologists is its almost impossible for someone with NPD to change. And if they get therapy, it just equips them with the ammunition to manipulate others more effectively
I wanted to address some misconceptions here. It is important to be mindful of certain key factors when discussing narcissistic personality disorder. - It is common for individuals with NPD to not seek treatment for various reasons such as lack of awareness, reluctance to admit they need help, or denial of having a problem. - Research on treatments for NPD is limited, but there are some studies suggesting that therapy, such as psychotherapy, can be beneficial in improving functioning and reducing symptoms. -The long-term outcomes for those with NPD can vary greatly. Some individuals may see significant improvements with therapy and create lasting changes in behavior and relationships, while others may find it challenging to maintain progress. -NPD is often linked to interpersonal difficulties like conflicts, manipulation, and struggles forming meaningful connections. These issues can make it tough for those with NPD to engage in therapy or sustain progress. change is possible for some individuals with NPD, but it is a complex journey that necessitates dedication, support, and ongoing treatment. Let's ensure we are spreading accurate information, avoid demonizing groups of people as a monolith and keep in mind the complexities of this disorder.
Psychology and sociology have come up with some weird and bigoted theories. I would personally be skeptical of any statement claiming that people with personality disorders cannot become better people. That seems like a cop out. They might have a personality disorder their whole life, but people can control the way they treat others.
My mother is an actual narcissist and she's right. Criticism is the best way to bring the true narc out. My mom used to fly off the handle if we even dared. Now that I'm older she tries so hard to bite her tongue and act as if she's not bothered when I give her any criticism in front of a room full of other people but I know it pains her and she wants to lash out at me. I low key get a kick out of it.
My mom was bragging in a room full of our family how she's always had a Christmas tree put up every year. But she forgot the year she cheated on my dad and left him. I was 13 and my brother was 2. I woke up Christmas morning (no tree that year she was too busy off with the other guy 24/7) and our dad and mom both weren't home yet. They went out that night separately didn't come back til early afternoon. I remember it so well because I was 13 woke up Christmas morning to no parents and no presents were set out. I did that. I looked for where they were hid and I set them out up against the living room wall for when my brother got up. So fast-forward almost 10 years later, my moms like oh yeah I always had a Christmas tree and I was like no and she tried to gas light me in front of our family, made me look like I was crazy and I remembered it wrong. Fck em.
@@alyssacelaya4671 she was probably embarrassed. who wants to start unpacking an affair in front of the entire family, especially if she came back and decided to work on things with your dad? awkward.
I’m healing right now and the way media seems to talk about narcissism acts like it’s a personality trait and not a personality disorder Being selfish doesn’t make you instantly a narc and being a narc doesn’t make you instantly abusive Thank you for trying to dispel this attitude It can often make me feel horrible and unlovable seeing so so many people basically replacing the word abuser with NPD but we can always find healthy true love
As a person who had dealt with narcissistic behavior, I applaud you for calling them out in the most subtle ways. It’s quite hilarious to me how narcissists easily fold into their own insecurities, ego and pride.
You gave me hope by saying there are narcs that actually try to heal 🙏😅 I've been praying my baby's father becomes one of those (for what I know so far, he's covert and communal, of those who mask as martyrs... perfect sweet-though-sad dude at first, who leaves every woman he dates/works with/is-related-to broke and broken). He says he *is* healing, but that's ofc the "right thing to say", his specialty. ..I truly hope he doesn't turn out worse than that, at least! 🤞 Fingers crossed 🙃 Edit: You nailed it with *every* item of your description, of course!
You should see the 💣 when a person with ASPD me marries a Narrcisit. We got married after 2 dates. I wanted his house he wanted to show how perfect he was. I got divorced in 6 months and a house with alimony because when a Narrcisit breaks, they become abusive. Lesson learned.
Unlikely story, Alimony of any substance is rarely granted by courts at 6mth mark and no contribution to marriage e.g. leaving job marketplace for years to care for kids would be a basis for alimony
I agree with the critique thing it's sure to nvr fail u. if they don't fly off they may make subtle jabs at u instead if they covertly bullying or they will deflect and project. definitely different than defensive ppl tho.
If someone is trying to "heal" but weren't considerate of the damage they caused I have no sympathy. Some narcs never own up to their wrongs then want a pity party when they get karma.
it's not about sympathy. it's self preservation. humans are animals no matter what our coping mechanisms tell us. go around disturbing wounded animals and see how it works out for ya. don't fuck with any healing disordered personality. they've already suffered more than you can imagine and you'll wind up playing the victim not to mention healing leads to a better awareness of the effect we've had on people.
@@darinaangelova2882please stop. As a borderline with a healing narc father who has put blood sweat and tears into righting his wrongs with me, I don't just take offense to this. Your like are lucky my rage is in check due to my own healing. Watch what you say. Last warning to you narc haters.
@@darinaangelova2882the girl in the video literally mentions it. People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder can realize they're in the wrong and want to improve, and even work on it. It's just as hard for them to recognize it, as it is for us to be able to tell they're trying to heal.
Reminder, sociopaths and narcs are also almost never actually attractive. I think thats a common misconception. They dont get partners because they are so attractive, they get them through lovebombing and manipulation. I think some people fall for them because they think that person cant be a narc, they look average lol
A vulnerable type narcissist may not be full of themselves, but insecure. Which comes out as being defensive against anyone making them look or feel bad about themselves. There is some crossover on behaviors though.
You're just "playing" semantics with words and feelings. It's all the same. All narcissists are insecure and full of themselves deep down. Some of them (types) just know how to mask it and cope better than others. Difference in personalities and intelligence also makes a difference 🤦♂️
@@nancytaylor5350and cluster B has high comorbidity of other personality disorders and other disorders. So armchair diagnosis to hurt someone's image or potential for help is imo, always wrong
The covert narcissist I know is not scared to make the first move with anything. He is not scared whatsoever of rejection. He tends to get what he wants in life because of not being in fear of rejection whatsoever.
The thing about criticizing narcs is so fucking tru. Both of my parents r extremely narcissistic, i believe they would get diagnosed if they talked to professionals. I told my mom shes unintentionally caused me trauma and she made everything about how shes the victim cause she gets stressed out and doesnt know what to do (she physically beat me once and that was her "apology"). My dad would go off the rails if i said anything that pointed out a flaw. Because of them im a people pleaser to a degree thats nearly destroyed everything but narcs only care about themselves
It's actually very difficult to ignore feelings of guilt especially if you have functional empathy & can put yourself in another's shoes. Giving a small regular amount to well researched charities is a good way to alleviate Guilt, then you can focus on working & let professionals focus on actual victims at a safe distance. Many vulnerable people out there are trying to leverage with self pity stuck in a victimhood complex, it's frustrating as they could help themselves but continue to self sabotage, hence why "Victimologists" exist. Malignant narcissists and actual Sociopaths are in the minority.
I so wish I had known about this sign and other narcissistic signs coming from an ex best friend. The drama that entered my life because of him could have been spared. Me being a fixer, empathiser type person prolonged the toxic friendship thinking he could change if I could make him see his ways whilst he knew how to elicit empathy and sympathy from me. Biggest 11 yr mistake of my life.
@@thiccredgyal3404 well not sure about better but I guess anything is better without a narcissist in your life lol. He eventually pushed himself out my life by going on some manic attack outside my flat door. I got a restraining order and he got a conviction (no jail time though)…. Thanks for your concern though, at least I know the signs going forward 👍
I was diagnosed as having anxious attachment (I am now diagnosed as healed), and anxious attachers do tend to fly off the handle when criticized especially by their closest people. It's caused by an abandonment wound and low self-esteem, along with a high view of others (putting others on a pedestal). I am a psychology major with a passion for mental health and helping people. Just saying some conditions can mimic this behavior. Anxious attachment mimics certain symptoms of vulnerable narcissism so they can be hard to tell apart, but anxious attachers have a lot of love for others and commonly choose careers such as in mental health fields. Anxious attachers also experience toxic amounts of guilt towards themselves - my tendency to constantly make myself responsible for others' emotions was something i needed to work on in therapy.
Thank you for sharing this. My daughter has an anxious attachment style and it worries me so much that people will confuse it with narcissism. She has the kindest heart but is sadly often mistaken as rude or insensitive. She will retreat to her room for days beating herself up with guilt.
@@Lrae333 My heart goes out to you and your daughter. Of course, you are so very welcome. I had to work so hard in therapy on my attachment style, it is so difficult to heal but it is possible 🥰 keep encouraging her to learn and grow, and most importantly teach her the importance of loving herself. Edit: RU-vid is acting up, please read the below comment.
@@Lrae333 A resource I highly suggest for you are videos on RU-vid by Julien Blanc. He does swear and is not perfect, you'll have to get past that sadly, but he has EXTREMELY helpful information regarding healing from anxious attachment and regarding raising children to *not* anxiously attach. He significantly helped me, so I hope directing you towards the resource might help.
@@Lrae333 I highly suggest checking out the RU-vid channel by Julien Blanc. He swears and is not kid-friendly, you will have to excuse that unfortunately, but he has INCREDIBLE information regarding healing from anxious attachment. His videos helped me so significantly, I felt his content might help you better take care of your daughter.
@@Lrae333 I would highly suggest to you the youtube channel by Julien Blanc. He does swear and is not always kid-friendly, unfortunately, but he has INCREDIBLE information regarding the healing process for anxious attachers. His videos very significantly helped me, so I wanted to direct you towards his work. It might help you better understand and support your daughter.
Okay, this is why I absolutely adore her! People might just automatically shun away from her, or think she's "evil" because she comes out and talks openly about her diagnoses of sociopath. However, she is spitting very educational facts. I also really admire, and appreciate how she throws in at the end, to not try to hurt a narcissist who's trying to heal. I really enjoy her videos so much. She really is a great person!! ❤
Narcissistic traits/NPD. Then all of the crossovers between other personality disorders, mental illnesses, mental health issues (I differentiate for the suspicious and uneducated) trauma responses and the rest of that category and also conditions such as autism/adhd ocd too I think? Still learning, also scared of whether I have narcissistic abuse syndrome with rage trauma responses or whether I have npd as with my mother and ex. Apologies for any errors :) I appreciate your help very much indeed, Kanika. You have ethics and moral backbone, rare enough in the world.
I actually like your videos. You’re honest, self-aware, and interesting. I like hearing your take on narcissism. I honestly feel like someone can be sociopathic without being narcissistic because sociopathy is simply the brain’s mechanism to survive but it doesn’t make you some monster. People who are sociopaths are still very human. They just grew up adapting like they were surrounded by wild animals in a jungle or something. A lot of sociopaths have been physically beaten or dealt with just fucked up circumstances that fostered a mechanism to turn off empathy to survive. I have BPD and you said in one of your videos that people with BPD are “sweet” and “easy to manipulate” in your experience. In my opinion, borderlines can be just as abusive as narcissists, especially if they don’t treat their disorder or live with it unaware/undiagnosed. This is because even though people with BPD are empathetic, we can be very selfish and our rage can override empathy if we are enraged and do not know how to properly regulate our emotions, and there is no excuse for that. I like hearing you expand on your experience with people who have different kinds of cluster B or C pathologies/personality disorders.
Im autistic and I remember watching a tiktok of a man diagnosed with npd talk about how autistic ppl can be terrifying to them because we often have an unexpressive demeanor which makes it difficult for ppl to identify what we're thinking or feeling. Narcissists thrive off the attention of praise and constant need for validation and fear rejection. As an autistic person, I dont really care about what ppl think of me and I'm unassuming by default. I do often leave people "on read" irl and left people feeling ignored which I don't do intentionally. He said that we can be threatening because narcissists need to know what others think of themselves constantly so it'd be like interacting with a blank canvas with an autistic person which then leaves no room for narcissists to project their insecurities on and would just repel back towards themselves leaving them feel uncomfortable.
This is gold! Yes they're either outright bragging, or playing the martyr. It seems narcissists are easy marks for sociopath, who are better at this, just in the way empaths and codependents are easy marks for narcissists ( especially malignant ones)? We can all definitely learn from each other? I love everything you said and also the thing you said at the end don't do this to them when they're healing, or working/willing toward healing?! I say the exact same for sociopaths. No attacking abusing using gaming someone who's trying to heal!
I work with a narcissist and I have aspergers. I clocked it the first day I started working. The biggest hint was the immense bragging. I have a habit of talking about myself but I'm overly aware of social cues because I have to be. And she barely asks questions to whomever she's talking to, and when she does she'll follow it with something about herself. She also loves control and tried and still does at times, to dominate me and my work with no avail. She avoids me more now though, I guess she figured out thay trying to manipulate or control an aspy girl isn't going to work. Also I'm good at my job, got a promotion, so whenever she tries to intervene in my work and division I can flat out tell her to go back to her department because its not her field of expertise, and if she has a problem with it I have the title and paperwork to back me up. She hates that. And I'm always polite to her until she crosses a line and I don't like how she treats my other coworkers (so much gaslighting). And I don't get why they can't see it. They admit they dont like her and they sigh when they her coming, but I figured they don't want to be mean or rude or feel guilty of setting boundaries but I don't have that problem. So I take it upon myself to keep her away from them.
Someone with Asperger's who has become acutely aware of social cues. That's interesting. It's great that you have managed to flip a weakness on its head.
Hahahahah of course, she mention how she does at better job at this, how she know how to make them do what You want ...hahahhaha narcissist don't do anything You want , You literally have to tell them the other way around the opposite, but they never ever NEED to know, they have to believe is their idea or thatw would backfire SO badly
THIS! As a person who has a narcissistic father, people don’t know what it means. They throw it around so easily. It’s literally a personality disorder.
I know I already commented but I like the end. Don't try to hurt an narc that ceiling. There are some who are trying to do the work to change and you should acknowledge that. A good example of this is a RU-vidr named Lee Hammock. He is a diagnosed narcissist but he uses his diagnosis to help people who have been abused by narcissists. At first, I was skeptical of him but he's actually very good. I suggest giving his channel a try if you've ever been the victim of narcissistic abuse.
You are so right and I just wanted to say that I stumbled across your channel last night. Thank you for using your diagnosis to help us. You're so right, there is so much crossover. It doesn't take long to see the holes in The mask either, you're absolutely right about that. After I left my ex, his mask really came off and it was kind of scary and really bizarre. His behavior was out of character for him but I knew I was seeing the person he really is.
My ex was a narcissist. Confirmed to me on the phone with him doctor. I was also told in that very same phone call that he had threatened to kill me to his best friend. Was a bit of a traumatic phone call to be honest. It's quite scary to be told that the person causing you so much pain and trauma in the exact words of a professional "knows exactly what he is doing."
Hear me out. The world does revolve around us, through my eyes, it's my world. I have to preserve myself because there is no world without me. If I die, that's it for the world, through me. Lights out. I'm sure most people think like this
I have a friend who's technically a narcissist. She may not be diagnosed, but she definitely shows the very same traits you've mentioned. She's not even trying tio better herself. Instead, it just worsens with each thing she does. The biggest problem? She thinks people at our working place still think, miss, and talk about her after she quit. She also believes everyone loves her. Don't get me wrong, she is nice to some extent but thinks the world revolves around her and she's always in the right. And in the end, even our co-workers (for her, former), they even say "she may be nice but I could never hang out with her for the long run". And this says a lot about her.
people with BPD may also exhibit narcissistic traits, especially in an extended manic episode, though that can range from overt confidence and sometimes bragging to delusions of being above others or a god complex (a literal god complex)
People with BPD are not considered manic. Thats bipolar…. Not borderline. I have BPD. It isn’t mania. It’s extreme fluctuations in emotion within very short periods of time. Way different than mania. I’ve witnessed mania and a person with BPD would pass out if one emotion lasted that long. Like seriously I’ve worked myself up into a deep sleep in less than 10 mins.
Like the other borderline said, manic episodes are apart of Bipolar disorder. Borderlines don’t go through extended manic episodes unless bipolar is occurring too. I have both. Bipolar and NPD is often comorbid with BPD.
@@pterodactylbull “A person with BPD would pass out if one emotion lasted that long” 20% of us have bipolar disorder also so I’d call that a projection or assumption. You don’t think you could deal. My bipolar symptoms take over, it’s like being hijacked not knowing anything is wrong because I feel SOOOO good. High. Confident. I’ve never passed out… yet.
Everyone has narcissistic tendencies from time to time, especially if they have other mental issues and problems regulating their emotions. It's the human condition, in order to survive we have to be a little selfish at times to get more out of life. That's not the same as being a full blown narcissist or having NPD.
@@pterodactylbull it is mania, the mania even can cause micro psychotic episodes, these are 1:1. Research is still highly new, and just saying shit like this despite the breadth of literature is not scientific at all.
Yes this is true. Someone can be a jerk and not necessarily have any diagnoses. I am sure someone could be kind and have a diagnoses also. It all really depends on complex factors.
Also please don't change the jumpcuts! It's clearly an artistic choice and I love the disconnected style! Almost a surrealist video essay in how it let's me connect the dots on my own. I'm excited to see what you'll do next!
That's something I had not thought of before. I'll try it and see if the person flips shit lol. After all their fragile egos are always at the forefront
Yeah, from everything, I’ve learned from videos and googling symptoms of narcissism… I fully believe that my sons father could definitely get a diagnosis
Just for curiosity, where them ”healing narcissist at?” In therapy (specialist say you dont heal from this with reasoning). Orthodox church etc? Supernatural metaphysical stuff umm maybe… I wonder if anyone ever came across narcissist who has been truly one and really recovered enough to be changed to their core, with awareness empathy and shame and all. Still waiting to hear from one. 🧐
i think they are the ones boasting about their npd diagnosis, talking about how npd doesn’t equal abuser under every post/vid/article about healing from narc abuse. it gave them a slight awareness, either they are proud or want to change it. i’ve also never met a healed narcissist, only slightly self aware ones. they don’t want to charge, perhaps they cant.
My mom has actually just finally gotten to this stage in her end stages of life- age 73. Now I wouldn’t say she jumps to take accountability or anything but she is open to the feedback (at least from me because she respects my psychology background & ability to read others) and receptive to the conversation instead of shutting down & resorting to verbal & emotional attacks. I suspect it’s out of loneliness, but I’ll take it. I’ve been telling her since I was a kid she would end up alone in the end if she continued down the path of operating out of shame hiding her addiction & blaming everyone else for it instead of taking accountability 🤷♀️ Keep praying that the unconditional love you demonstrated was enough to crack a hole in the wall around their heart & that it allowed enough light ☀️ in to guide them down the path of healing, even if that path is a lonely one and you never get an apology.
Theoretically, it could be relatively easy for a sociopath and a psychopath to manipulate a narcissist if they approach it correctly. Some narcissists give things to others, expecting something in return, such as praise or some other form of reward.
But do you truly know they were full blown narcissists or did they have certain traits? Because having some traits still doesn’t qualify to call them full blown narcissists
@@sadist8902 I’ve read everything in the DSM and listened to a lot of psychologists and patients describe the disorders. It’s very obvious with these folks.
@@mrmcbeth right? People never believe you until you say you read all of the DSM 5 😂 Happens to me so often. “Oh there’s no way she has ASPD, you don’t know what you’re talking about” Bro... just read the DSM 5 it’s so fricken obvious (Edited cuz there was a typo)
Let them finish destroying themselves. You are still thinking about the fake persona they showed you in the beginning.. who has a drinking problem and once you peel their lips away from the bottle you will get “that him” back. No ma’am the driver of that car left a long time ago once he reeled you in. The drinkin could be to quiet his demons until he drinks too much .The best thing to do is keep letting him self destruct.HE needs to want to do better for himself. You can’t want it more for him that he does! Turn that energy you are giving to him.. towards yourself before you start to lose yourself trying to hang onto the relationship
I think its all a spektrum, from Autism ( that i am in ) to Adhd , Schizophrenia, soziopathy, phychopathy, narcissism, borderline, bipolar, and so on. I can imagine that nature or nurture problem kicks in, how and where you are raised, all that makes some traits get problematic or not. For yourself or others. 😊
I am too nice probably because of low self esteem in groups (I think i am clever but not socially fit/accepted). I should go to your training, a really mean training!
Narcissists (not coverts) can be extremely fun as an acquaintance. They are the life of the party! They love to spend money and a lot of energy to get you to like them. (Just don’t get too close or vulnerable around them)
As someone trying to understand Sociopaths, genuine questions, why do you feel the need to say not to hurt people who are healing from their mental trauma? What is it that makes you care? Is it a general belief that the world is a better place for you to live in this way, or is it a projection of your own experience and struggles? I am at least mostly NT as far as I know, so i can't know what it's like to not feel empathy, i would've assumed a sociopath would not care who they are hurting.
