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Springboks vs Ireland review - Rugby World Cup 2023 - Podcast EP 7 

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This week George and I go into full rant mode over the Springboks loss to Ireland. We discuss the tactics, our 7-1 split and if we need to parachute Pollard in straight away.

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24 сен 2023

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@user-nl5yv1fr8q
@user-nl5yv1fr8q 9 месяцев назад
Breakdown is the most important part of rugby in close games
@baruchhashem49
@baruchhashem49 9 месяцев назад
Was pitchside. Bokke got smashed at every breakdown. Never saw a team lose 5 lineouts. Leave 3 tries out there and still win. And....it was an amazing game. The breakdown outmuscled Bokke. Stop blaming the kicking. Ireland left more points out there. And console yourselves in that the last 16 teams have gotten it wrong and this is the 3rd loss against Ireland in a row.
@some_might_say
@some_might_say 9 месяцев назад
South Africa looked like a broken team in the last 10 minutes. PSD was out played and out muscled and looked defeated half way through the second half. Ireland didnt even play well and still won. Ireland will get better as their campaign goes on. I think SA have shown their best hand and France will have too much for them
@cr6231
@cr6231 9 месяцев назад
Not broken in the last 10, it was actually too easy, they had to stop stealing line outs etc
@feoil
@feoil 9 месяцев назад
Munster fan here: Mane has been having a mare off the tee all season. At some point; he is going to get his head together around place kicking. When he does, he's going to be the best out half in the world.
@michaelglynn4641
@michaelglynn4641 9 месяцев назад
I love to hear this you guys. What a game. So much to debate and deliberate . Very big thank you to South Africa for being so gracious in defeat took it on the chin you will bounce back . Love you guys (oaks)
@stabcitySB
@stabcitySB 9 месяцев назад
As an Irishman I’m obviously glad we won but watching the game I made the exact same comment as you guys about Steyn, particularly when Faf went for the sticks from his own half. Credit to you guys in your fair breakdown and I must say, nobody in Ireland who understands rugby is writing the Springboks off and it was an incredible game, one I couldn’t enjoy because it was so stressful. I reckon there were very sore bodies on both sides the day after. If we meet again, may the best team win boys!
@jjjjjjo839
@jjjjjjo839 9 месяцев назад
Irish perspective. Ireland gave South Africa lots of opportunities, especially with our disfunctional line out, but South Africa couldn't exploit them. Interested to know whether you think the pass for the SA try was forward?😂 Agree SA will beat France and make the final, just hope we can make it past the All Blacks and get another crack at the Boks!!!!
@patkuruvakadua4657
@patkuruvakadua4657 9 месяцев назад
Vs NZ your 7/1 worked because of the send off and NZ was new to the 7/1 tactic. Ireland have leant and tried to adapt. They have showed other teams how to defuse the bomb squad. France is following closely. As for Pollard he cannot sit on the bench because their is no space in the 7/1 bench space. U can only start him at 2nd five as libook is the best distributor for SA. So what do u do. Go back to ur strength for a 5/3 and hope. Your bomb squad should be confident to call for kick to the sideline rather than goal. After all your coaches are confused and it will be the deciding factor comes the crunch game.
@doniehurley7634
@doniehurley7634 9 месяцев назад
S.A went for kicks because they couldn't break the line look at the stats guys and be honest
@jlsimonable
@jlsimonable 9 месяцев назад
Ok OK OK Ireland and South Africa world champions of the qualifying round... ;) Seriously A final Blacks France is very possible
@johnilbehonest
@johnilbehonest 9 месяцев назад
Ah now they destroyed you on the break down. And you keep asking you missed these kicks. What if Ireland didn't kick for the corner well that would be 12 points. Ireland left 2 very close trys also very close. Ireland could of score 25 plus points only for they had bigger balls than your team nd kicked to the corner
@serfabri1803
@serfabri1803 9 месяцев назад
And the forwards wasnt that dominant. Look the Scrum penalties count. One area that Farrell must fix is the lineout; But out of that, advantage for SA came out of individual errrors (3 from Beirne and some of Ringrose, both outstanding players, but think they were not on they're brightest day 😂)
@TheClaffo
@TheClaffo 9 месяцев назад
Never get enough of that sweet Saffa salt 😂
@johnhill8396
@johnhill8396 8 месяцев назад
in hindsight, that loss looks deliberate
@jaspermalan3640
@jaspermalan3640 9 месяцев назад
We got this game right, and not wrong, you can see the kicks you put into question, ask yourself why we kicked, this was a tactical game and as the path continues in this WC, you will see what the vision for this game was
@Christsfireignitors
@Christsfireignitors 9 месяцев назад
What happened to the boring squad?
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
😂
@FairweatherRugbyFanXXX
@FairweatherRugbyFanXXX 9 месяцев назад
And 100% agree,slot Pollard in at 12,the man can play defense well,no question,let him handle the kicks,Mannie distributes much better
@alpharius212
@alpharius212 9 месяцев назад
It was Rassie and his tactics, we could have mauled way more from the lineout,but we should have won the game with conservative approach, Ireland didn't beat us, we lost the game. Libbok is not to blame it was the tactics, we know Manie will put that ball on the 5m line. I also think that Rasnaber are holding something back.
@annettekolb3103
@annettekolb3103 9 месяцев назад
Amen agree. Corner over posts
@gysgijsbers4202
@gysgijsbers4202 9 месяцев назад
No, there is a time & place for every option, but take your goal kicks in tight matches...just get them over next time...in that squad give Willemse a chance, he has BMT. .or bring Pollard back.
@mrjayq
@mrjayq 9 месяцев назад
AHH lads stop your crying. The way I seen it, yes you don't have a good kicker but even if you did and got your 9 points, well how about Ireland didn't go for the lineouts and they kick all their points, lol then they still beat you by 3 points 😅
@JoshKempeezee
@JoshKempeezee 9 месяцев назад
Libbok pollard and willemse in the team will be insane
@thomaspollock5709
@thomaspollock5709 8 месяцев назад
The urish won it un breakdown they where better on day
@thomaspollock5709
@thomaspollock5709 9 месяцев назад
If Ireland lose they won't Moan ,about they will except it not like boks moaning.frebch will beat Africa
@22grena
@22grena 9 месяцев назад
You lost. Accept it. Move on.
@cr6231
@cr6231 9 месяцев назад
You guys do not know what is in Rassie's mind, no one does😂
@thomaspollock5709
@thomaspollock5709 8 месяцев назад
It waa a lucky win qorld cup ut qas vad eef call
@JoshKempeezee
@JoshKempeezee 9 месяцев назад
Really starting to question not taking Nohamba as the 4th scrummie, his kicking is at like 86% and he had more points, tries and clean line breaks than grant 🤷‍♂️
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
Who would u have dropped? For a guy with no test caps?
@JoshKempeezee
@JoshKempeezee 9 месяцев назад
@@RugbyOkes Jaden hendrikse, dont rate him
@JoshKempeezee
@JoshKempeezee 9 месяцев назад
So this weekend for instance Nohamba would be on the bench instead of jaden you can rest pollard after 40 and play nohamba manie and your kicking is sorted Also Nohamba played 10 at school incredibly well soo all they needed to do was beef him up a bit and you've got a huuuge X factor Admittedly his tackle suckess stats are low (63%) but if you watch its because he takes a lot of absorbing tackles Anyway, perhaps slightly bias because we were teammates but the stats dont lie check them out
@gideontladi
@gideontladi 9 месяцев назад
Guys come on. You are being too emotional to give clear good analysis. I understand the feeling however it effects the quality of analysis. Not good quality analysis mostly bad or just wrong.😢
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the support ❤
@eamontdmas
@eamontdmas 9 месяцев назад
@@RugbyOkes He's right though. France and the all blacks are trash now are they?
@FairweatherRugbyFanXXX
@FairweatherRugbyFanXXX 9 месяцев назад
Who are we supposed to be? We’re the Boks,fok all to what the other teams are doing,we don’t need to kick for kak if we’re ramming the ball over the try line….
@timseytiger9280
@timseytiger9280 9 месяцев назад
Wait a minute SA are trash, we've already beaten them why are they even still in it 😜 SA are number three now.
@thomaspollock5709
@thomaspollock5709 9 месяцев назад
U lost relax your are a team who are not able to take a beaten it could have won get over it
@thomaspollock5709
@thomaspollock5709 9 месяцев назад
The winner of world cup France Africa a blacks but french should win home advantages mean everything so for me France 1 Africa 2 all Black's 03th
@gysgijsbers4202
@gysgijsbers4202 9 месяцев назад
Esterhuizen would have stopped Bundee Aki in his tracks, Esterhuizen also has more penetration go forward than Jesse...let Willemse kick...also our wingers need to cover wide on defence...wingers, pls stop messing about in the middle on defence...Go Bokke!!! 🏉❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@timseytiger9280
@timseytiger9280 9 месяцев назад
Don't worry, you are going to have Pollard up against Aki if the commenter on here have their way.
@JoshKempeezee
@JoshKempeezee 9 месяцев назад
He didn't over extend, ireland loosie was dropping his bind the whole game and pulling frans down
@kenwoodburn7438
@kenwoodburn7438 9 месяцев назад
Did they throw it to avoid an All Black quarter final?
@annettekolb3103
@annettekolb3103 9 месяцев назад
That is the rumor going around, same as the rumor that Ireland ar3 going to lose against Scotland because they want France in quarters. It was my thought that Rassie wanted to lose for that reason because we don't want to play host team finals on home soil. However, after listening to multiple podcasts an interview, my belief is that Manie followed what was communicated from the top. He did want to do corner kicks. We wanted the moll, but directive was kicked for 3, 6, 9. Didn't work gave to faf still didn't cost us 11 points and now including me is bitching about the ref and his calls which I strongly believed cost as just ad much. Yes game was flowing. Yes the were no cards bunkers or any of that nonsense however, Ireland coming in with late tackles while ref is focusing on the game in front of him and depending on his sideline refs and tmo was the biggest mistake ever. I watched the game probably 10 times just to make sure I have the facts right. On our score line, faf kicked the ball out. Flanker out of nowhere ran him over with his elbow no arm late tackles exactly as Finn did to Arendse. Picking Eben up in the air(illegal) calling it a mall with a man held up by 2 Irish players. 1st his feet must be on the ground to be a legal mall, 2nd ref response moll:" no you can't do that it is illegal bring him down safely" just to turn around blow the wistful against us for being offside. Then I don't even want to go there because I had this discussion over and over again, as a action netball umpire if you are not positioned correctly you can't see what is happening. That being said, Mr Ben was on the wrong side off the moll the ball was out Kobus was about to play it and ref blow not using the ball call the game. If we ended with a try no conversion we would have ended with a draw. If we had a try with conversion won with 2 points. Please tell me where I have missed something or just sour grapes because a ref that is in the now close to the action not paying attention can cause a team a game a finals a world cup. All everyone is asking is get it right.
@timseytiger9280
@timseytiger9280 9 месяцев назад
@@annettekolb3103 A lot easier to just loose to SA and rag doll Scotland.
@annettekolb3103
@annettekolb3103 9 месяцев назад
@@timseytiger9280 like I said it was just rumor. I just watch 2 show Afrikaans toks en tjops and super rugby. With the super rugby show everything I pointed out they spoke about and basically agreed. Now T&T was still on week 2 games but Nick Mallett said it very well. If you right in front of the posts 20-30 meter out yes kick for posts but other angles kick for corner. I love my sport as a coach I trust my captains to make the right calls because they on the court I am next to the court. Half time captain speak 1st and then me or the other coach. If you can't trust your capt to make the right decision bring in the disco lights. If you trust your capt leave the disco light and home and put your trust in your team and captain. You coached them did the pre game training and if you ask me Manie wanted to kick to corner but Rassie had the post light up and back fired 7, 14, 21 is beter then 3, 6, 9. Sorry I went off track Ireland won't never throw a game against the world champs as the nr 1 team because they have a point to proof but Scotland I have questions about the rumors
@washerdryer3466
@washerdryer3466 9 месяцев назад
Completely delusional to even thing SA "threw" the match. Seriously have a good look at yourselves. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kenwoodburn7438
@kenwoodburn7438 9 месяцев назад
@@washerdryer3466 Just a question. Something I was wondering before the game even began.
@biffjones2601
@biffjones2601 9 месяцев назад
Have to agree with you guys, but there was another factor to the game as well. Ben O'Keefe was also playing for Ireland - subtly.
@deselby6669
@deselby6669 9 месяцев назад
@biffjones2601…If Okeefe had been shading it for Ireland you can be sure Rassie would have said it..Sorry u find it so hard to accept..Boks are a great team..
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
Ah man don’t be that guy 😅
@bengormley2517
@bengormley2517 9 месяцев назад
always one dope
@ryanlawlor7862
@ryanlawlor7862 9 месяцев назад
Pathetic, take the loss and move t f on
@dinoducci4039
@dinoducci4039 9 месяцев назад
The reason we lost the game was the ref. Watch the game again. It was biased beyond belief. Ireland were holding players down collapsing scrums neck rolls. SA should pull out of this world cup in protest.
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
Ah man don’t be that guy…😅 we could shoulda woulda won that game cuz of our play end of.
@dinoducci4039
@dinoducci4039 9 месяцев назад
Just watch the game again. The ref cheated us out of a good match!!
@RugbyOkes
@RugbyOkes 9 месяцев назад
@@dinoducci4039I’ve watched it again. I can’t put our loss down to the ref at all. Sorry man can’t agree. Easy way out blaming the ref. We have to be undeniable and we werent
@dinoducci4039
@dinoducci4039 9 месяцев назад
The last play was a clear penalty try. SA would have won the game. What about Ireland cheating and holding players down. Siya tells the ref this and Ben O Keefe does nothing the whole game. It was the poorest display of officiating I have ever seen. Watch this space poor officiating is going to cost us the world cup. Don't say I did not war. You
@deselby6669
@deselby6669 9 месяцев назад
@@dinoducci4039 Your keen observations were overlooked by every member of the South African team and Coaching Staff..The Irish team was cheating and had obviously paid the referee..Are u an administrator on TSAnalytics?
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