I love your videos brother!! Anytime I have a question about mtb components, that I cant find an answer for, I search your videos and usually find an answer! To top it off, your explanations are so thorough and filled with other valuable nuggets, I get answers for questions I did not even know I had! Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for making this video. I have just converted my e-bike with XTR to AXS. I didn’t have to tune anything! It worked perfectly from the start. Thank you.
Just imagine paying extra money for a bike/frame with internal cable routing and then paying even more money to not having to install the cables :D Anyway very nice and strightfoward video. Thanks
@@LoveMTB Many do. Cable routing is about doing the job in the simplest, most efficient manner. Internal or external should only ever be the product of that; not cosmetics.
I just set up an X01 derailleur using with a XTR cassette and since I didn't have the old B-gap adjustment tool but had spares of the new one I just took a pair of pliers and removed the inner part where it sits around the largest cog. That way there is nothing to interfere with the chain/45T cog. But I guess not everyone wants to ruin their brand new stuff.
Thanks god for your videos! My mechanics friends were telling me that the mix won't work properly but after following the same steps as you its perfect. So much money saved and one less cable to deal with hehe
I have just installed a gx axs derailer upgrade kit. Your video was a big help and also saved me money in thinking I needed to swap casset and chain to sram
Nice job boss. Can't wait to get it. I hate shifter cables so much. Been ready to ditch them for a long time. It's about time we got to this point in time.
This is exactly what I got except 10 - 45 on a gravel set up. It works better than Eagle Cassette, the latter, kept rubbing despite proper indexing on high gears.
The world's first Absolute ShRAMano FrankenTrain.... Love it! I can easily see myself doing this with the lone exception of keeping my X01 DUB crankset. I look forward to a long term review once you get some real mileage on it. I have a Magura Vyron v2 dropper and love it, so I'm already used to charging me bike once a month..... never thought I'd live to say that!
Using the phone app to micro-adjust is great, as it assigns a numerical value. I have the AXS Gx upgrade with a 175 crank and Absolute Black 30t boost for SRAM. I just ordered some new components. I'm 70 and live up at 7000', so I've decided to put on a 165mm crankset to try easing joint stress. I also just ordered what I need to convert to AXS with Shimano. So, Microspline driver, XT 10-51 cassette, XT HG+ chain, and, I decided that, since Absolute Black makes an oval that is designed to be mounted on a SRAM crank but for use with a Shimano HG+ chain, I got that as well. I like the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear spacing on Shimano more than SRAM, so I'm really looking forward to trying this out! The one question I had was on setting B-gap, which you answered. I'm thinking that the chain lengths are the same moving between SRAM and Shimano, though, correct?
Can’t wait for a follow up video as I want to do this on my Scalpel. I want to get rid of as many cables as I can… and if I can save money on the cassette, etc, I’ll have money for an AXS dropper!!! Then it’s just brake hoses and suspension lock-out!!!
Changed my shimano xt 11 speed to sram gx derailleur and changed chain to sram xx1 as there was no x01 available anywhere in stock. Its a dream! Super quiet when pedalling and shifting is smoother then with xt, just when changing gear when going up the hill it clanks.
Just one thing about dropping chain over cassette, its not a problem for me, but in worst case micro adjustment could be done to have worry free 11 speed shimano/sram axs system :D
I’ve been riding with the same setup (GX AXS, XTR cassette, XTR crank with 30t absolute black oval chainring, XTR chain), for over 3 months, over 300 miles, and it shifts flawlessly. In fact, I think this setup shifts better than any SRAM drivetrain (I’ve owned GX and X01 group sets) and it shifts just as good as the mechanical XTR drivetrain. I won’t go back to mechanical drivetrains. I’m now looking at getting either an XX1 or X01 AXS derailleur (I’m a weight weenie).
Hi. I'm thinking of doing this set up. Would changing the jockey wheels to the shimano jockey wheels be beneficial. If I remember correctly the shimano 12 speed has different number of teeth on the jockey wheels compared to the sram 12 speed jockey wheels.
Learned a lot from your videos. For me, one of the most important reasons I got into mountain biking, is to get away from anything electronic. Batteries? Charging? Bluetooth? No thanks - let’s see how long I’ll be clinging to my cables :)
I have AXS and know many others with it. Not a single issue between all of us. Shifts way better than wired. So much easier to service too. AXS battery lasts a long time. Only needs to be charged a couple times a season. Embrace innovation imo.
Deep down, I know it’s a matter of time before I go wireless. Somehow, I still think bicycles should just be bicycles, everything mechanical and manual; batteries, electronics... where does it end? Aside from e-bikes, will these eventually be another version of scooters LOL
@@dukesilvergold Eric, you're fighting technology, do you drive a car ...or are you staying with a horse and cart!!! LOL : ) I ride an ebike and slowly all the analogue riders I know are realising the benefits and either moving over or admitting they will eventually! Ebikes are NOT scooters!
Yes this is the way!! I've been running an AXS derailleur on my XTR drivetrains on two separate bikes for the past year without any issues! It simply works everytime with a perfect shift. The biggest point to getting flawless operation you hit very well. Proper B-gap adjustment set at sag is key!! I use a micrometer to get the 51t cog exactly at 46mm from the center of the top jockey wheel bolt while at sag. That combined with a properly measured chain using Shimano's 12 speed chain guide, and the shifting is perfect everytime especially under load!!
@@LoveMTB Yeah I've stuck to Shimano's new method for their 12 speed chains. I've seen a lot of guys have shifting issues while they try to chase the perfect B-gap setting which in the end always came down to an improper chain length because they used an older chain sizing method.
@@LoveMTB Yes I understand. I was talking about how I have seen a lot of people lately using the old pre 12 speed chain method and then never being able to get the shifting correct because the chain was the wrong length. I understand you are talking about using Sram's 12 speed method.
@@LoveMTB No, I was running full XO1 (non-AXS) then switched to full XTR, then removed the XTR derailleur to use XX1 AXS. I didn't experience any degradation in performance when switching to AXS. The perfect shift everytime was noticeable from the beginning though! From my experience it shifts just as good as full XTR did, only now I don't have to worry about the need to goose the lever slightly to shift up the cassette at times like I was used to with traditional derailleurs. I was running Di2 on my gravel bike and was longing to have that precise electronic shifting on my mtb, so I bit the bullet and bought the AXS. No regrets!!!
@@LoveMTB No worries bud! I appreciate your videos, always very detailed and informative! I prefer to get on my bike and ride around to do the fine tuning, which is easy with AXS. I find if I tune it at sag with me on it I can get it to perform better than when it's in the stand. Which is where it counts anyway! Keep up the awesome content!!!
@@LoveMTB Lets see... Favorites: Ease of shifting has to be the first for me. Set and forget, after setup and fine tuning it just continues to work everytime. The battery lasts longer than expected. It's robust, I've smacked them a few times which is concerning everytime because they are so expensive, but no issues yet! Areas to improve: Before GX AXS I'd say price (I own XX1 and XO1) but with GX out now with a small weight penalty, AXS is getting cheaper. I wish the controller was a little smaller, I know it's petty but it is a little chunky for my liking. I wish the controllers were more customizable, I have both the AXS derailleur and Reverb AXS and I wish I could program the buttons to do anything I want such as being able to program a single click, double click, or long press on either controller for whatever I desire.
Hi, I really enjoy your vids, great in deep explanation with clear instructions. Thought you can explain next issue in your own unique way. Can’t find any explanation further than “how to instal” The question is how to get the AXS back to “0” or factory reset specially after you mess the micro adjustment to the point where chain jump up and down, there’s no video or text explaining this topic. Thanks for any help, Cheers!
Hey man, absolutely perfect! I'm also a supporter of Shimano, but thanks to you, I also have a Shimano gear and RaceFace cranks mixed on the bike, with OneUp Oval chainring and an e*13 casette. And this looks like another interesting step forward. Thanks so much for the inspiration!
@@LoveMTB Hey there what's up. So just wanted to share my first impressions with you on the Sramano setup(XO1 AXS(used already a little banged up a few scratches), SLX cassette/Xtr chain(1000miles on both), Absolute black 32 oval, 140mm rear travel Yt jeffsy)...I don't want to judge to fast as I gor 2 rides(4h, 1500m climbing, bike park, some blue trails in the woods). So the Pros apart from the obvious are that I don't need to think about how much I need to press the shifter(controller) anymore especially when the hands body is tired. The next pro is the option to shift up/down(app settings) with your pointing finger as on shimano xt shifters(can't live without that option)...interestingly when AXS first reviews came out I was a bit disappointed as none of the reviewers didn't mention this option is available on the new wireless system, luckily it is. The third is ofcourse the zzzt zzzt 😜. Ok for the Cons, the speed, don't take me wrong it's fast enough, but my first after 1 season with an XT setup is that in a situation when coming fast into a corner with brakes and to a step climb, the analog setup was a tick of a second faster there(maybe I just need to get my Sramano shifting technique better) or set my multiple shift from 2 to 3 gear at once. The second Con would be the Sram AXS clutch strength, compared to an Shimano XT it is weak, the chain is all over the place where with the XT was quiet. The third Con would be that the shifter is to sensitive in rough trail situations(the travel of the buttons is a little bit to short I think). Installation, setup(indexing, b gap, limits) all went perfectly and very easy. So do need more riding time to get used to it better. The shifting is good, but I do have one issue, the chain is doing loud clunks when going down the cassette and sometimes has trouble to go up right away, that is probably a little because of the wear on the cassette, but also probably, I think the chain length. On the pure Shimano setup I was running a 34T oval(chain length according to the Shimano 12 speed instructions(+ 5 or 6 half-links), went to a 32T oval now so shortened the chain for 2 half-links. It's 57 full links long now on a 440mm chainstay. I have a feeling that it's still 2 half-links to long. How did you size the chain, Sram way or Shimano way? Probably it should be done the Sram way as it's a Sram derailleur, right? How is your setup working out for you?
Just installed the GX AXS on my Ibis Ripmo AF on and existing SLX drive system. Install was pretty easy. Still have some issues I have to fix to get the shifting smooth.
III NEEEED IIITT😁 Looks really good! I would love to have it put money is the problem as always. Maybe one day. There are more important things to buy first
Dear friend give us a vídeo comparing eagle vs axs eagle. The idea of taking care of one more thing (the battery) is very deterrent. Greetings from Spain
I would be totally ready to drop heavy wires for 5v, gnd and signal with central lion cell placed somewhere in the frame. No need for wireless in the mainstream. This could also apply to dropper and lockouts. would result in super small shifters and buttons. Say if SHimano would bite SLX and do it there
I had 100% shimano, was satisfied, switched to sram, but shifting was not as nice under load. i have this setup now and for me it works flawlessly. excited for the update though. adjustment is probably not easy
Very futuristic, but I wonder how the electric derailleur will work when wet and muddy? The Santa Cruz looks amazing very nice bike. I was however hoping for the Prone to appear but alas it has yet to materialize. Hahahah
Hi You provide a great service keep up the good work…… I’ve just installed 10sp Linkglide system to my Focus Jarifa2 2021 ebike …. it has been life changing compared to the OEM Altus supplied. Could I adapt the SRAM GX ASX to the Linkglide cassette ?
hola me encanto tu video super informativo, puedo hacerte una pregunta, yo tengo un desviador sram gx y quiero usar con un groupset shimano slx expect for the derailleur sram, puedo usar sin problemas?
I commented when you first released this and you said you will have a follow up long term video. I suppose all is working well. My XTRs shifting keeps detuning during big and long descends when I do minimal shifting. I’ve struggled with this for a long time on my long travel bike (160) and do not have this issue on my hard tail or short travel bike. It seems I am experiencing detuning from cable stretch and I can’t seem to fix it. I will be upgrading to wireless shortly to try and eliminate this problem.
Hi mate. Great vid. Question about the b-gap adjustment. Do you adjust with the shock deflated or with air still in it? I’m confused and about to attempt the fit and don’t want to mess it up! Thanks!!
very neat that rear axle can be trimmed forward motorbikewise. Would you upgrade from mechanical gx to gx axs? that would be a cool vid. Thanks for your vids
Very helpful video. But I have one question, if you're working on the bike by yourself, how are you able to adjust the b-limit screw under sag by yourself? What trick do you use to get this done by yourself?
Thanks for the Great tutorial!! I have just brought the Axs kit and was wondering will it work out on a Shimano SLX cassette ? I’m guessing it will but probably not as slick at the xt cassette. Thanks
Nice vid, I look forward to hearing the final verdict! How are the ergonomics with the Shimano brakes? Best would be to have a proper adapter for EV -> MMX I guess.
I always get paranoid about making sure my H limit is set right on a carbon frame. It would be a huge bummer to wreck a carbon frame from a poorly adjusted H limit.
Hello, thanks for this video. I have a question about fine adjustment. The cassettes differed best from the middle or at the top or at the bottom? What was your experience doing this? Thank you for your tip.
Algun update de como esta funcionando ? Estoy a punto de comprar la gx asx. La quiero montar en mi bicicleta con cassette slx cadena xt plato 34t oval absolut black
I did the same configuration but my chain is kmc, I don't know if it was because of the chain, but I didn't finish removing a bit of noise in sprockets 5 and 6, nor was I able to configure it with the old tool or with the meter at 40mm or 41 because if I do it, the chain skips, I don't know what to do anymore... can you help me?
It's a tight fit for sure, have you checked yout derailleur hanger to start with? Chain length has to be setup according to SRAM/ Shimano (ends up the same). B-Gap - when on 45T cog the top jockey and the 51T have to have just a small gap between them. That is for a full suspension, hardtail would have a 4mm gap or so.
Hi, did you test the AXS also on your Yeti ARC? I am getting a lot of chain slap with GX axs, xx1 chain, 32c, chipped away the bottom of cs, next to chainring. I am trying to isolate the problem to axs clutch, before I change to "organic" shiffting. And yes, ARC is ridden hard, so lots of roots, jumps, drops....etc...
Hello! New to this but I was wondering if you could give me some advice on upgrading my new bike Mongoose Dolomite. My main concern is the brakes and possibly the gears from 7 to 11 or 12. Please try to keep it budget friendly and I thank you in advance!!!!!!
I have a question without mixing and matching SRAM and Shimano, I just currently got the SRAM GX AXS upgrade kit, it was wondering with the 12speed XT Shimano cassette and the SRAM chain and the SRAM front chain ring would that be a problem? Or should I use the Shimano chain with the Shimano rear cassette?
Been using this setup with slx cassette chain and oval chainring and was working fine for the past month but now it seems to want to jump gears at the top and bottom of the range even after micro adjustment in the middle of the cassette. If I adjust for the small cogs, big cogs start to jump around and vice versa.
This means you most likely need to align your derailleur hanger. When its gets bent or twisted it affects the angle of the upper cog in relation to your front chainring.
Hello! You mention that you did a hard code in the system so that you Can run 11speed on the 12speed deraliur. How did you do this?? I have the cx1 groupset 11 speed and i am looking info upgrading to wireless. But they are all 12speed. What do I need and how to? 🙂
Hi, is the b-gap distance also 40-41 mm on an 10-45 cassette? I have a problem, that i can have either good shifting on the middle cogs but not on the largest or the other way around. Any hints?
Hi! I'm on XT cassette with GX Axs (full sus). For the chain length, do I have to sag my rear suspension? Or do I just perform the Shimano chainlength method? After doing so, the b screw gap will stay as 41mm? Your advise is appreciated. Thanks!
It's all cool and all until you consider what happens when you destroy your derailleur hah. For riders with high risk due to terrain ridden Deore RD (with XT/XTR shifter) is no brainer. BTW. Wouldn't it be better to program position for every single chainring (especially as running on a slightly differently spaced cassette)? I understand that is possible for Shimano, so I assume it is also possible with AXS (maybe the app is required)?
Excellent video, I do have Shimano cassette M6100 to be specific a good friend of mine gave me Sram X01 RD and shifter are they compatible same as you have in the video. Thankss
@@LoveMTB I would like to have a SRAM X01 RD and shifter and my cassette would be M6100, would that work? but my shifter and RD is not AXS same as yours, wondering if it would work same as yours. Thank you!
I have been running a SRAMano setup for less than a year, and I am really unhappy with the durability of the XTR cassette on an ebike. The AXS shifter works perfectly with the XTR 10-51 cassette and XTR chain...well, at least when it is brand new. Even though it was adjusted correctly, and it initially shifted really well, the 3 largest gears on the XTR take a beating when climbing hills, and I have now broke a tooth off of 2 of the gears. It shifts smoother than SRAM by basically engaging 2 gears simultaneously as the shift happens, but if you apply any torque during that time it really causes wear and tear. It may be ok on a normal bike, but this heavy long travel Haibike totally wrecked the cassette in under 500 miles of trail riding. What a waste of a $400+ cassette and a $80 micro spline hub. I am going back to SRAM with a GX cassette and a XX1 chain. It may not shift as smoothly as XTR, but it shifts faster and more positively, which will extend the life of the cassette.
@@LoveMTB yes the SRAM is a little bit noisier during shifts, but I actually missed that quick positive shifting feel of the SRAM going into each gear. The XTR was an expensive experiment that didn't quite go how I had hoped. The weight savings are not worth the loss of durability in my opinion.
@@mk3driftmotion , @LoveMTB - I think Shimano has come out with an E-Bike focused groupset (LinkGlide)? With a full power E-Bike I would def. stay with the cheaper cassettes.
Thanks. I just did this and it shifts amazing except for the biggest COG. I could not trouble shoot it and neither could my LBS. Not a bent hangar. Only thing i can think of is I have a oneup switch oval ring. Going to try a shimano direct ring. Any suggestions?
Do you have the 55 or 56.5mm chain line cranks as opposed to the 52mm ones? That might cause you to have the poor shift at the most extreme angle in that granny gear, since the chain line is biased towards the smaller cogs.
I have just done this setup after watching this. Everything is smooth apart from when i back pedal. The Chain drops down from the largest cog to the middle of the cassette every time. Not sure how to fix it....
@@LoveMTB It is pretty aggressive tbh. The chainline is 52mm and the chainstay length is 435 mm. It never did it with the the Shimano SLX M7100 Deraileur.
Hey Legend, have you had a chance to thoroughly test this? I'm keen to give it a go. I have a shimano slx 12s drivetrain currently with a bent derailleur. Cheers
@@LoveMTB Sorry mate, i was asking if you had a chance to test the ShRAMano drivetrain. i have bent my slx one with a tree branch so need to replace it and am thinking of doing this upgrade?
@@LoveMTB alright, I will keep it in mind. I have a complete slx drivetrain. Cassette, chainring, cranks and chain. Will be interesting to see how it turns out. Cheers for responding and the advice. Keep up the great work with the videos! Love watching them. ✌🏼
@@LoveMTB Hey, i have now completed this and i changed both jockey wheels with my shimano ones off my slx derailleur. It works floorlesly up and down in all gears except going from the 10t up to the 12t. Going from 12t down to 10t works fine but going back up it just won't go. It will go from 10t to 14t without issue. Any ideas? i have tried micro adjusting and made sure limit screws are set correctly but it just won't go. at the end of the day i can get away without the 12t cog but would be nice to have. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Cheers Dunc
