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I don't know how he does it. The kid's mental game is uncrackable. TWO TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW he's makes a 3 stock comeback against one of the best players in the world, down a game, in grand finals, with the entire crowd cheering against you. And then he wins the next set 3-0. Leo is a damn inspiration.
Everytime he gets Arsene, it gives him a sense of security and that greatly improves his mental state. Which is why Arsene needs to be nerfed and be less reliable.
Championare maybe Arsene could be changed to charge a little slower or last a little less, but Leo’s mental fortitude is because of so much more than just his character
aww that hit me hard, speccially bc all are hating arsene and joker on twitter, it feels like they don´t apreciate the effort that leo is doing with the carachter :c
HAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂 i swear i was sooooo hyped up after he clutched a 3 stocked comeback AGAIN. Mans an absolute fucking god and its things like this that he pulls off that make me root for him. What a guy
He's also the toughest mentally. He just never seems to get down or rattled. When these guys have him against the ropes and he somehow clutches a game or two out they just break.
MkLeo abusing his plot armor, he seriously went to losers bracket just so he can get revenge on Marss and to bully Tweek by blueballing him. Then made the first set close just to give the audience a show before dominating the grand finals. The disrespect of this man, congrats Leo.
At 18:50 Leo starts a little pop off but sees Samsora depressed and turn it into a fake stretch, he's so respectfull towards his opponent it's incredible.
The reason Leo is #1 in the world is the way he adapts. It was the same thing with Tweek. Samsora used vegetables to get rid of Arsene and it was amazing for a moment I thought this is the perfect counter pick against Joker - 4 hits and Leo lost Arsene. Then, Leo understood the match up and used the vegetables against Samsora and got Arsene 2 seconds (literally) after he lost it. That's just one adaptation, the edge guarding, ledge trapping and neutral game is 100% changed from game 1-3 to games 5-7. Amazing.
Same like he did vs Zackray we he changed to Rob, in a single game he understood the gyro was the biggest threat and the next one he was using it to get Arsene in an instant, Leo even feels more vulnerable with Arsene but he manages to get into the other´s head by showing how their most useful and powerful tools is turned against them.
Now tell me another character that can pull an effing arsene out to “adapt” to the other person. No actually. tell me another character that can just cancel and shutdown your best attack options like that. Can you even name 1? So is it Leo’s adapting ability or that joker just has fucking good options. And yet some ppl are refusing to call him broken. Leo does have a great mental game and fast reactions but his character also gives him so many extra advantages that it’s unfair.
0vershadow if robs best attack option is gyro, any reflect character counters that. Leo just adapted to the situations he was put in, nothing wrong with that, the character isn’t broken, people need to chill. Barely anyone else is good with joker. Or can’t even play him well, joker may be high tier to top tier but he isn’t broken at all just cause one person plays him well
-Samsora: get a leo stock -Public: They scream with happiness -Leo: get a samsora stock -public: Nahh Leo" Five thousand against one, well it seems fair"
@@Joe3008Type The real underdog is Leo for grinding through the loser's bracket to take these tournaments. It's a lot more exciting to watch someone win when they had to put in OBJECTIVELY more work.
the fact that yal are calling samsora an underdog is whats wrong with everyone right now...yes Leo is ranked #1...no that does not mean that no one stands a chance..yal gotta chill
Nerves of steel. Godlike skill. Unbeatable clutch factor. A main that is both top tier and suits his playstyle MKLeo has everything. Except a Korean girlfriend
It's all the Arsene lmaoooo Samsora is just as good, if not better than MKLeo, and if you watch closely, Leo has LITERALLY just been winning cuz of that Arsene.
It's like watching an episode of Yu Gi Oh when Yugi is losing so hard a duel and you may think is impossible at that point to win but in the end he always win even at the cost of invent new rules to the game lmao For real tho i wanted Sam to win (was so close T_T) but respect for Leo who somehow always comeback even when it looks impossible... he is godlike.
Ryng Tolu I respect that you actually like MKLeo, come on mkleo should prove that he is the best player in the world, i see people in the crowd mad but just because samsora is the underdog and they want him to win doesnt mean hes gonna do it, Leo has to do his best against any player to keep his title as Number 1.
and Arsene came out fasater because the damage that joker receives, so if you´re at 200% and they hit you just a little while you´re holding the rebels guard it will charge more than the ussual.
@@xzgears929 man if joker is at high percent it would geit it faster because the down B reduces the damage that you receive and that damage reduced goes to the meter, so if you are at 200 with one hit on jokers rebels guard it can charge all the meter. thats why leo sometimes got 2 arsene in one stock bc they hit jokers with rebels guard at high percents. but also leo lost many stocks and get punished so many un this set for trying that
I mean Samsora was doing really well and was able to combo MKLeo's Joker to around 60%, and then Arsene was like, "It's showtime." It wasn't just the turnips.
This is even better than the EVO comeback... i thought he was going to lose to Nairo, Tweek, Samsora, Riddles and Zackray and he came back from all that. What a legend.
@@darianmd32 nah not at all, he defeated Leo 2 times in a row in his own country breaking his Smash factor streak, why would he be broken getting 4th in Smash con ?
Joshua Suh Actually, people did complain about Luigi’s zero to death, that’s why they nerfed it, genius. And just because _you_ don’t hear people say anything about doesn’t mean nothing’s being said, nor does it make the mechanic in question any less stupid.
This video is a bible for learning Joker's kit. Many of the things Leo does with Joker vs Peach can be applied to most MUs in the game. Rebel's Guard to discourage projectiles in neutral and even when offstage, Eigaon snipes, Xkarn edgeguards, Gun gimps, hook callouts following d-throw, fastfall drag u-airs and d-air stage bounce to u-smash, n-air pressure at ledge, etc. etc. Leo's tournament VODs are a in-depth tutorial on how to use Joker and yet you still have even other top players banking on Arsene cheese to be enough to get them out of a hole when they're trailing in a set a la Sm4sh-launch Diddy but have not started incorporating anything that the character can do other than what put them on the map initially. While this was fine for Sm4sh Diddy because Hoo-Ha did literally everything, this gets your ass beat when using Joker because he's not a point A to B flowchart character. Compare Nairo's Joker to Leo's and it become immediately obvious just how much Leo has pushed the character's kit and how everyone else is still doing month one strats.
16:31 You fools! "One more stock!" chants only make him stronger! 2 games down, 2 stocks down, Leo plays the Uno reverse card, and You Say Run starts playing in the background
Indeed. It didn’t look like he was able to get over that and just was tilting. Samsora is always composed and robot-like during battle; but everyone saw how he just deflated after that loss. So close and he just couldn’t slay the demon. Major credit to MKLeo though; it looked like he was completely outmatched with Samsora’s Peach and just barely escape a loss to force a game 5. Leo is just totally unstoppable with his Joker and we’re all witnesses
I don't think so. In the first set Samsara's turnips were incredibly effective and he was getting a lot of his kills off the ledge. Then on the second set he started reading each of Samsara's turnips and abused them for Rebel's Guard. There was also one of the stocks on the second set where he counters Peach's recovery for the kill. My guess is he was getting a good feel for Samsara's style on the first set, came up with a plan, then committed on the second set. The part I find crazy is how he can use those plans with such a high energy play style.
Too bad Leo is gonna get (or getting rather) the Armada/ZeRo treatment... sick gameplay but no crowd hype/love at all... for YEARS. The smash community sucks sometimes.
The i agree. Like u can have a favorite player and cheer for them and u could not have a favorite player and not cheer for them but u shoudnt be rude about it. U shoudnt mess with their mental state
idk man, maybe he got coached by sonicfox on how to get more game time 101? Lose in semis, then smash everyone into oblivion, get to grand finals, win.
Good for Leo though. He didn't jump up and celebrate, he was respectful because he knows what it feels like to lose. Samsora did great, but there's a reason Leo is the Prince of Smash
Leo is literally the most humble top player there is. Did you know he offered Samsora 1v1 matches afterwards in order to practice his Joker matchup? Such a nice guy.
The way the crowd was hyping when Sam wins or just does something and when MkLeo wins there's almost silence compared to Samsora, well dear crowd, take that in your asses, Leo WINS
Leo is unbreakable, he could be down 2 games and 2 whole stocks an he’d still swing at you with confidence. Any other player would crack under the pressure.
Yall need to chill, youre acting like I told the TOs to eat shit and to go die because i didnt get to see GFs right away. gimR and all the TO's definitely dont get enough credit and do an amazing job. I was just looking forward to grand finals and was surprised it didnt get posted the night of like VGBC usually does. Also yes, im autism spectrum with asperger's and if thats a problem well too bad im going to comment on youtube videos regardless : /
Mad respect for MKLeo and Samsora. Both were great. MKLeo's focus and consistency is an inspiration. It doesn't even matter what sport or game, just the fact that someone doesn't lose confidence when odds are against him, keeping focused, is amazing. As humans, we always let our emotions affect us eventually. There's mental fatigue and so many factors in play. It doesn't matter what MKLeo does - this guy will live on as a legend.
You know, if there's anything MKLeo thrives off of, it's pressure and defensive play coming from his opponent. When his opponent is in a psychologically disadvantageous position, such as being at the cusp of victory, they begin to get more careful and defensive and antsy, and MKLeo's Joker absolutely demolishes that kind of playstyle. So many of his moves can lead to a kill and he can get away with so many of them because his opponent is scared to challenge/punish them. MKLeo Joker is truly perfect for the anti-winning playstyle, and once he takes away that little momentum from his opponent, it's already over. You're not winning now. And I'm not sure if you're going to start winning again.
MKLeo is just insane! But can we talk for a sec about how amazing to watch are the Ultimate tournaments. The gameplay is just fantastic and the variety of characters makes the game feel amazingly fresh. I think I'm starting to like it more than Melee tbh dont @ me
I was thinking the same thing. Many top players using differents characters. At some point i thought Hero would ruin the competitive scene, but seems he is just another mid-tier character.
Yeah let’s all talk about how joker is OP but let’s completely ignore how many times Samsora lived all the way up to 200% and let’s pop off when Samsora gets 50%-70% off of one down tilt at 0. Smash community is something else man
its amazing how much mental stress Leo puts his opponents thru, Samsora fought him 13 times in total during the whole tournament, 3-2 in winners, 2-3 and 0-3 in GF. Its exactly the same thing that happened at Evo, Leo comes from losers, ends up in a 2-1 match last stock situation with HUGE stock dissadvantage and manages to comeback, with everyone chanting "one more stock" in the background you can see how devastating those game 4 were to both Tweek (at EVO) and this time with Samsora, both were not able to take another game from Leo and ended up losing 3-0 after the reset. Meanwhile we have this Stoic Mexican mofo whose mental fortitud is unfathomable, his ability to adapt and move on after every death and lost fight is amazing, he just keep pushing until the oponent breaks. He even did it twice during the tournament, he also broke Zackay's spirit completely, he didnt even look like a pro player againts Light, his next opponent, he was just a shell of a broken young man. MKLeo, the destroyer of wills.
I will always root for the underdog, but I cannot argue that MKLeo did not play well; he's #1 in the world in this game for a reason. Even in times where I think Arsene carries a bit much, MkLeo's neutral is out of this world. Good stuff to both players.
@@danieldancer4065 | I saw the interview. And I still stand by what I said as I continue to watch Ultimate. My opinion very well could change later on, but from what I saw here, it just seems like the case especially in the heat of the moment. Once again, my opinion could change later.
Good? Sure. Entertaining? Not really. He always plays the safest option. From Ike to Joker. His playstyle revolves around characters with huge, painful aerials and borderline cheesy kill confirms. You always know what MKLeo is going to do next, it just works because the character always has the advantage.
@@joeyfatonefrombackstreetboys Bullshit, tell me why the top is not full if Jokers right now and why it wasn't full of Ikes back then. Tell me why Ike now sits at Midtier and noone is playing him anymore. "MKLeo is playing the OP/lazy option" is the most lazy bullcrap one could come up with. And while I agree watching Ike as not entertaining, saying that about his Joker, especially without Arsene, is (no offense) jsut stupid.
Leo knows he’s going to win. I swear he doesn’t even try that hard he’s just that good. It’s almost like he feels bad for being so far ahead of the competition. Mad respect
Man, I know Samsora has always been a good player, but this tournament as a whole definitely solidifies him as one of the best in my mind. He beat Leo and Tweek to get to Grands, and tho he didn’t win in the end, he’s definitely proved his ability.
@@Mono-ni7yu No that is exactly the case. when me and my friends are at a party play and 1v1 loser gives up, there's a point where I am the one everyone wants me to just lose because they are tired of me playing every game. samsora has been losing to mk leo for so long at this point. and especially after that smash n splash GF people wanted samsora to win and get revenge.
Probably, or he just plays better under pressure. While others get frustrated when under pressure. Leo is good at keeping a cool head in these situations
Probably, I do this as well. In stock fighting games like Brawlhalla or Smash, I'd make the opponent underestimate just to get a gimp and flip the tables
@@earlyman7439 He retired a year ago, stop acting like you're an old school fan or something. Even if you've been here since 64, you're acting like he stopped playing ten years ago.
@@blueknight8079 Zero's record is like 9 times more impressive than Leo's, so if you comment something like what Mr. Moreland here did, I'm just going to assume you started playing with ultimate's release. Nothing to do with me trying to act "old school", I just see alot of heads exposing themselves in the comments.
@@earlyman7439 there's a ton more great NFL players you could've compared him to, there's no need to fight over Tom Brady who is good but so is someone like Ben Roethlisberger, I never said or even implied ZeRo's record wasn't godlike. You're acting like someone badmouthed him and that never happened.
1 shot of vodka for every turnip Samsora throws 2 shots of tequila for every time Leo throws a turnip back 3 shots of tequila for every turnip Rebel Guard'ed
