the inside of the ship is even more illogical if we analyze the actual movements of the characters in the plot a detailed explanation here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zAhckvn3sXk.html part 2 , with a drawing schematic : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cxC_GAS66NA.html
Basically it just doesn't have to make sense anymore, I don't think the writers of Discovery care any longer about continuity on even their own show. I think what happened was that they were sick and tired of fans complaining about how the continuity doesn't make any sense, so they jumped 950 years into the future and left any cares behind them in season 2 and just went an probably considered season 3 a reboot and straight up went wacky coz the future is magic. Also can I just point out that holoprojectors look futuristic to us now, as much as mobile communicators looked futuristic in the 1960s, but you're telling me that over 950 years they went from holoprojectors everywhere to....holoprojectors everywhere? See what they ought to have done is just start the entire show in the 32nd century and it'd be fine, like cool - whatever, maybe even make it time travel - sure why not, but they really fenced themselves into a corner that even the likes of Enterprise never saw coming when trying to do a prequel. Look the future is magical ok...that's it. Next season the Discovery will find they can cross galaxies and Michael ascends to become a Q and snaps the show into nothing.
If they had started JunkTrek in the future, they would have had no excuse to trash Star Trek and demean and degrade the characters from Star Trek whom we fans all love. Which was always their intention.
@@kitcat7538 Postmodernists hate the past. They hate past successful creators, they hate things beloved by people. Because they think they can improve it. The only reason they are renowned, remembered artists is because of systemic racism, or sexism, or not enough socialism, whatever. All they know is that everything to ever come before them is worthy of shitting on because only by dragging down other people and properties far more successful can they create the veneer of success for themselves.
Way to blame the audience there. They never cared about continuity (or more accurately never had the TALENT or conscienciousness to make a decent attempt at continuity - since limitations on their genius ideas are 'oppressive').
I've heard of sci-fi spaceships that are 90% engines, but I've never heard of a sci-fi spaceship that is 90% elevators. At least you don't have to get onto the same elevator as other people because there are so many! Wait... aren't there multiple scenes where a bunch of people are crammed in the single turbo lift?
From the looks it's more like 350% or so of space for turbo lifts. I am not a hater of this show, however those turbo lift scenes are too much, if it was a Death Star from Star Wars, yeah, this much space for turbo lifts is valid, but USS Discovery is not that large, or is it? Maybe Discovery is the size of Manhattan? Then probably the turbo lift space could be like that. Hmm...
Man all those turbo lifts intersecting each other, running next to each other, some floating completely free, some on tracks, and some just going places... MAKES TOTAL SENSE
what's hilarious is that there are comic-book crossovers of the two. just they are not considered canon to the respective parent franchises. I like to think that pod in the enterprise season 3 episode that had 'larger interior' was sort of a nod to that fact not just to doctor who.
@@SmartSmears Now that you mention it I never really thought about before but Doctor Who is really a very loose Sci-Fi show where seemingly anything goes because they can almost always use changing time lines as an excuse for almost anything.
I never realized how bad that ship really looks when compared to the times. I have seen better models made back in the 70's. The windows just look really cheesy to me. The Discovery just looks small when compared to Galaxy class ships. Always really liked the Galaxy class sleek look. Kurtzman's people took Federation and Klingon ships and slapped them together like a 5 year old child.
Crazy how 50 years ago when prop departments kit-bashed random plastic pieces they still made better looking vessels than people with every digital resource at their fingertips.
TL,DR: Discovery is one fugly mother. Me: Yup. And what are they staring at out of that window in the saucer cut-out? The opposite window? Are they watching someone shower?
Back in the 60s-90s you made up for bad VFX with good story writing. Now, you use pretty graphics and CGI to make up for bad acting and writing. Real shame
1980: Function over Form 2020: Form over Function This same stupidity happened in movies, tv shows, computer games, and UI. It is one of the reasons _Minecraft_ is THE best selling game of all time. Everyone understands _digital Lego_ even if everything looks like crappy 8-bit art. (Not to be confused the gorgeous 8-but art of _Monkey Island_ etc.)
The VFX were better back then because they were practical and not CGI Garbage.. You can't beat physical miniatures in terms of realism.. There simply is no substitute..
@@callumwearne7870 Indeed! The biggest problem with CG is how _sterile_ and _plastic_ everything looks. The real world has a TON of "noise" which adds "character". CG could look more realistic if it allowed for more noise. Compare and contrast these screenshots: imgur.com/gallery/N3AkH
@@callumwearne7870 I’m currently watching Voyager again from the start and this was the first to have fully CGI models. It actually holds up pretty well but some (appreciate it was mid to late 90’s) look awful. You go back to TNG/DS9 and the models still look amazing and realistic.
Oh, you mean across from that big stadium? Dang, that's why I never found sick bay. I was always looking for it near the life size replica of Notre Dame. I feel stupid now. Thanks for clearing that up.
@@DanniPf I always got confused as to why their Notre Dame replica was in the middle of their replica of the Vegas Strip. I mean, they had to put their Mall of America off-strip to make it fit, but they somehow squeezed the entire cathedral between the Luxor and Excalibur? Really?
One thing I loved about earlier Star Trek series was that every ship was a character in itself. The design and layout of each ship was largely pre-established deck by deck. You could tell that the designers really cared about their work and had an interest in science fiction. Fast forward to this and you can tell they don't give a damn. It's just a pretty background where limitations don't apply.
Mike of Red Letter Media (as his Plinkett persona) did a split screen showing the Enterprise’s schematics on how the turbo lift went through the ship with Spock in it in an episode of TOS and it was cool to see. You saw how the lights in the little window went horizontal when he went forward and how it went vertical when he was going up the bridge. That’s attention to detail.
@@nivekleveb8872 It’s in the RLM Plinkett review of Star Trek 2009. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bIYfr_9Zpwk.html. It starts around 4:25
@@Soundwave142 Not exactly, Phase 2 was meant to be a sequel series to the original series. Instead they mad Star Trek: The Motion Picture and later made TNG.
Discovery is a big middle finger to Ralph McQuarrie’s concept design for the Enterprise for Phase 2. Showing once again that Kurtzman, much like the Other Mother in Neil Gaiman’s book Coraline, can’t create. Only distort and deform what already exists.
I'm past my prime now so I don't run in races anymore. But in all my years doing half marathons, marathons, and ultrathons I never saw anyone of Tilly's size running. Walking, yes (and good for them) but running with that much weight on her knees, lower back, and hip joints? Yeah fucking right.
@@burgertim7878 which is weird because they establish the replicators in STD refuse to create anything that isn't health nut food (rather than just replicate food with all the essential nutrients and proteins a person needs in the shapes and flavors of real food). Unless Tilly is channeling every 90's fat kid archetype, and the bag she brought in when she moved onto the ship is just packed to the brim with chocolate bars.
@@cytorakdemon Troi replicated chocolate sundaes on TNG. Did Starfleet dietary guidelines change in the 100 years between the shows or is this another case of the writers not giving a shit? But who am I kidding? Nobody who worked on this has ever seen TNG.
So the saucer section is about 6-7 floors tall and the engine section is about 4 with the neck between them adding another 2. So where did all that interior space come from? Is it also a TARDIS?
@@Serahpin I think the saucer is slimmer than the section where the 4-ish floor tall shuttle bay is, if you don't count the bridge. The Discovery looks no bigger than a modern aircraft carrier from the outside. The inside is another story... and dimension.
Didn’t one of them say something like ‘In sci-fi anything can happen’ so I guess they think that means you can smush all of sci-fi together randomly with no rules?
So, is the “camera zooming in to a single window of a vessel” shot Kurtzman’s attempt to establish his own signature visual ala JJ Abrams’ lens flares? Because he seems to use it so much that it borders on being comical. It’s best in moderation (think the opening shot in the unsold pilot The Cage) but almost every establishing shot?? Show a ship in a flyby or stationary, cut to the interior, you’re done! How hard is it?
@@arav13 "this show is too confusing, first there's space and a ship, next these characters are in a hallway. But the hallway has windows into space! Wow, 11/10" - Discovery fans
The ships in Abrams Kurtzman Trek are bloody TARDISes. In Trek 2009, the last time I saw an engineering section that looked like an office building’s boiler room was Space Mutiny!
@@christopherjones5446 I'll cut them a lot of slack for red matter. It's just a prop to drive the story, fine. Magic goo. What I don't cut slack on however is "The unthinkable happened, Romulus' sun suddenly went supernova." I'm sorry, what? Suddenly? No indication of what was happening for the thousands of years leading up to it, eh? Piss off. Go watch Vulcan implode from another planet... somehow.
I remember watching an interview with JJ, and he's all but giggling about how he used an actual brewery for Engineering. What a stupid decision. There's no good way of looking at it. He's either a cheap bastard who did it to save money and time, obliviously stupid just taking a piss on ST for a sake of laugh, or it's a deliberate insult to ST as a whole.
@@mantis1s1k JJ is under the assumption that the whole of space is about the size of a small continent. How else can a superweapon’s laser travel from one point to destroy an entire solar system in seconds and it could be seen from the planet Han, Rey, Finn, and Chewie were on.
"where the Federation puts all its pennies" is a clear disregard of established lore. Money, wealth, material gain are all things of the past in Trek. No one uses money in the Federation.
The Federation still uses money to deal with other races, even in TNG S1E1 Beverly Crusher even tells a clerk to charge her for a bolt of cloth, for the record im far from a DIS fan but the lore around money has been inconsistent throughout the entire run of Trek.
@@frag2k12 Ahh you got me there. I was thinking of the dialogue between Picard and Lily in First Contact. But yes, in dealing with non-Federated world's they use money, I believe. Although inconsistent, I think that the Federation wouldn't use money for its own ship construction when everything can be, and has been established, to be mostly replicatable.
@@gravelycritical Very true though they still have to mine resources for those materials that the replicators can't create. But as much as many Trekkers hate to admit even the lore of ST has been inconsistant from TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voy with warp speeds and shield mechanics being the worst offenders.
@@njb1126Seska wondered what the second training program was after meddling with the first, and decided it was just terrible so left it alone, had she known what it would become she would have told Tuvok to delete it as it was ridiculous, and would have felt it was a torture that even janeway didn't deserve, and she hated janeway a lot.
If they never did the stupid turbolift void, the scaling would be all that bad. Still off, Crossfield looks massive, but then only a few decks... Scratch that, scaling is fucking terrible...
Crossfield is canologically over 700m long putting it bigger than the Galaxy class even if the latter has over twice the number of decks. Also the Constitution class is around the same size as the Crossfield but is under half the size of the Galaxy, the scalling is so far off its horrible. As such I consider this another version of the JJ timeline.
@@frag2k12 "As such I consider this another version of the JJ timeline." That evidence doesn't lead to the conclusion. This has been done to death; Discovery is prime.
The turbolift void is silly, but the scaling of ships and stations in Star Trek has always been inconsistent. The Defiant in particular is always as big as the plot needs it to be.
@@lereff1382 yeah the defiant mad ds9 look small as fuck. And the promenade wouldn't be as curved as it looks unless it was in the smaller parts of the center of the station
"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference, wouldn't you agree, Mr. Freeman?" Yea, but what about the wrong man in the wrong place? "Well... that's... That is to say ... I don't ... Mmm, are you referring to some specific person?" Yea, Kurtzman being in charge of Star Trek. "... My ... emmmployers have forbidden me from speaking of .... that person. I am sorry but that is all I can say on the subject."
While ST has always had a problem with the internal volume of the ships, there’s a difference between _"there’s enough space for everyone to have to have their own cabin"_ and _"the TARDIS on steroids"_
The production design is nice though, I think some people are taking it seriously but they don't have a clear vision to follow so they're just making things that look cool, which is why the show resembles a Spy Kids movie.
Kurtzman: "The designing of this show requires so many brilliant builders and designers." If they kept rolling he would have added: "Too bad we didn't hire any of them! Cutting corners, you see."
"Windows are structural weaknesses" Somehow discovery survived how by multiple section 31 kamikaze drones and ships, United earth defense defense platform ,31st-32nd century federation vessels barrages of phasers, cannons and torpedoes and emerald chain cannons at the end edit: not to mentioned, survived getting hit by an massive asteroid with almost no damaged and crash landed on a icy planet ( it's possible for discovery survived the crash landing due to the planet low gravity and the emitter to cushion the impact comparing to voyager crash landing on a icy planet instantly killed the crew across deck 9 to 14 and more, surprising discovery main deflector dish still works after the the next few episode)
Yes, remember when Admiral Katrina Cornwell died (Episode 2x14), a photon torpedo destroyed one-fifth of the saucer section, but the blast door's window was unaffected.
@@dandeliondown7920 IKR? and honestly her death is kind of meaningless where discovery era ships like the discovery era enterprise has maintenance drone all over the ship..why not send one?
Agreed, it always has bothered me. It's an earlier and lower tech ship design (supposedly) than TOS Enterprise, but is deliberately designed with more exterior surfaces and openings to create weak spots, which also reduces the useable area of the ship. F--king stupid garbage made by morons.
Major if your calculations are correct the ship itself is smaller than it looks; you can fit the entire ship inside the turbo lift area; it's like me being able to fit a whole car inside the trunk of the same car. I can't believe no one during the production got up and said 'wait a second this does not make sense'
The turbolifts are actually inside a giant holodeck to simulate the experience of traveling long distance when it actually uses sophisticated teleporter technology.
Two things: 1) Why are there so many INT to EXT and EXT to INT shots? Just...what happened to a regular flyby? Why all the fancy camera work? 2) How do you over design an ELEVATOR?!
I can't believe you're *actually* critiquing the show for the use of exterior to interior shots. The only reason they're so rare in classic Trek is because they were stupidly expensive to do. I think they're a cool way to do establishing shots, and help convey the scale of the ship.
@@lereff1382 A few here and there, fine. But if it's every single establishing shot, then it becomes annoying. It's a cheap excuse to move the camera around for no reason.
@@Gragthor I'm going to play devil's advocate and assume this video makes it seem worse than it is since they're all grouped together. I'd imagine there are probably a lot of flyby shots as well, so in retrospect, fly-ins are good when you have the tech to be able to do it finally. But this video does make it seem like it's nothing but (which make sense since he's only using shots that would convey the scale of the ship).
I love all the times Kurtzman comments on the attention to detail he and the rest of the production staff pay to the series and history only for Major Grin to prove them totally wrong....WTF should we even bother watching the utter garbage CBS spit out.
@@njb1126 I've often referred STD as "generic sci-fi show" as it has little to do with actual Star Trek. I actually watch it now just to have a laugh because it is that bad. That's why I like Major Grin vids. Besides the answer to everything is "This is the power of math people" lol
Std reminds me of watching British soaps... you watch and ask yourself.. are you trying to get onto tv burp??? Or is this supposed to be serious... (sorry that's a very ok tv reference.... but it still stands)
I'm looking forwards to buying the new model kit ....it cones in a standard size box ...but unfortunately can only be assembled on the local football field as the interior is too big for a house.
Next season they will hear about Cetacean Ops from Lower Decks (I suspect production is pretty segregated as the Lower Decks people seem to have actually watched Star Trek before).. and we'll get an ocean full of dolphins on Discovery.. and their leader will be called Darwin as Kurtzman remembered Seaquest DSV and wants to copy it.. but there will be thousands of dolphins in total and probably a coral reef and they'll reuse those flying fish from Trill but all the dolphins are vegan and they just eat quinoa from underwater replicators
It will be very interesting to hear how they justify the absolutely vast, almost limitless space for the turbos on the inside of the very definite, finite dimensions of the ship. This very inane, incredibly stupid, and extremely poorly thought out scene has made a complete and utter mockery of all the work people have put into the schematic, design, and blueprints of the star trek ships.. And it was an insult to expect loyal trek fans to just blindly accept this TARDIS like transformation without question .
Im sure it will have something to do with the spore drive, they'll probably say it creates pocket dimensions which allows there to be more space inside than out or some other stupidity.
Saw an interview with Mike on Trekyards or a similar YT channel. Mike can hang with ppl who are way into ST and not be tripped up at all. He has thought out the design and ship evolution in ST and had deliberate reasons behind why the Cerritos is the way it is, and even has plans for the future he couldn't talk about yet.
Some of the finest Engineers and Scientists of the last several decades grew up with Star Trek TOS or TNG to inspire them. They had the original Star Wars Trilogy. They had old Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica and Blakes 7, and more. My Generation had both TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and then Farscape and Stargate. ... I pity future generations because they don't have anything to inspire them.
I'm open mouthed every time I see that turbolift system, I assume this ship is several miles long or the people are living and working in a one room thick skin all the way around the ship. Or is there some tardis s**t going on, which is it?
To be honest from all the footage you could scale the ship really well, and you can easily scale the height of the lift and how many meters it travels per second to establish how large the "interior" is. I am too lazy, tho i have the gut feeling it wouldn´t fit inside the ship.
normally they're to take from one deck to another with a choice of exit points on that deck if its big enough. I agree with your comment though, the discovery wouldn't be big enough to justify a fully-fledged turbolift network, just one that has access to all decks and provides said access to the non-spinny parts, with no 'sideways' off of a the network, so it's pretty flat in one of the three dimensions. (zero-width, basically).
@@AlMcpherson79 Yeah, I agree. That's really what I'm thinking too. At best, just one (or two at most) short-distance turbolifts could be justified. Grin should do some calculations, based upon the average size of a person in the videos (let's say 6 foot tall) and then try to estimate the height, width and length of the ship from that.
So in order to copy the chase scene from _Into Darkness_ , they're willing to turn the inside of _USS Discovery_ into the size of several Coruscant sectors. Because I assumed that sequence took place in a city, not inside a starship with limited space and resources.
I broke out laughing when I saw Alex because it’s hard keeping a straight face when we know that 10^-45 seconds goes into think up their “original” ideas. For all you non science nerds (who am I kidding it’s a Star Trek channel) that is less than a plank time- the shortest amount of time
Remember in Star Wars, when they had the final shot of Empire Strikes Back with the camera that pulls away from Luke and Leia to show the rebel fleet? It’s the only shot like that in the whole trilogy, and it’s the final scene in the film. Now imagine that shot ten times an hour in every film.
That is an outstanding compilation. 6:19 "Our trip to Earth was eye-opening: a reality check ... such as reality is." Yes, I think that's a significant line for the STD people. Remember in the first season, Michael Burnham quoted lines from the book she carried, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. I think STD sees science fiction as fantasy, so for them anything goes. However, they are wrong. Science fiction has always asked questions, like a scientist trying to understand the real world, about how human beings will cope with new technologies, and science fiction has always inspired scientists to re-shape our world.
It makes sense because they tell us it makes sense. It's sublime because they tell us it's sublime. It's the best ever because they tell us it's the best ever.
Yea, it's a good thing most of us are smart enough to make up our own minds and see this for what it is - reconstituted shit, and it's not even good for being shit.
What's the point of the windows at 3:00? They're literally just staring out at the outer saucer section, which is blocking their view of everything else.
6:02 did you notice that they did an error with the filming? Here you can see that the parts which destroy the window come from above (it should have smashed them on their heads) - but in the next shot (in the seasons 2 finale, where stamets gets wounded) the parts come from the RIGHT side (from their perspective).
One thing I will say disproportionate starship sizes are something that affects basically every science-fiction franchise imaginable including Star Trek. Ultimately the main issue is because many franchises treat starship small insects rather than actual objects and so the ship is built around the set-piece, not the other way around. This is probably also due to the fact that it's hard to perceive something that you can't actually view.
Classic trek, more than a few inconsistencies due to the limitations of a weekly show and having to work with physical models of different scales, a high cost of compositing, high cost of making models, and more perfectly legitimate reasons I can't think of right now. New trek (in fairness we can't really ignore the Defiant's size being somewhere between 50 and 200 meters, the Delta Flyer being wider than the shuttlebay doors and its internals being a little larger than the exterior) everything is as enormous or small as it needs to be for the action sequence, it's not set in stone.
Well, it’s obvious that some one in the visual effects department actually thought in their teenytiny little brain that the discovery was literally the TARDIS. He thought he was hired to work on Doctor Who and didn’t realize he was working on a Star Trek show.
Secret Space Program disclosure. It seems that Discovery was originally meant to be a GIANT FUTURE ship, before officially it was revised into a much way smaller ship in Star Trek's 'The Original Series era'. The Discovery-A basically is a 'reboot' into a 'default'. Because the scripts, scenes, and so on have been done, and can NOT be edited, what we ended up is something like this. Star Trek: Discovery is not the only series, movies, and so on to have this kind of 'quirk'. This is why many series got shutdown in the 2010s. Expect to see more strange things. That being said, TOS' Enterprise officially was said to be conceptualized as a ship around the size of Star Wars' Millenium Falcon. But what if it was bigger? And in multiple ships: Saucer, Engineering, Nacelles (e.g. Voyager-J)? A quirk can be seen also in Star Trek: Voyager's Ocampan Reproductive Capability and its 'Population Growth'. Officially, the Ocampa was said to be 'conceptualized' as an 'androgynous' species, that is capable of birth, sort of making them all to be 'females' by 'default'. They can only have ONE OFFSPRING only once. This caused some problems when they had a 'Male Ocampa' in the TV series, and the mating is Male-Female, not Female-Female (Lesbian? Homosexual? Homosexuality?). Of course, it was later said that an Ocampan is capable of having more than One Offspring in all of his/her/its life, in one single birth. But if by Kes' time the standard is one, well… A similar problem regarding Male and Female, plus reproductive things also happened in Granblue Fantasy's Draph and Elune. And also Uma Musume Pretty Derby, and perharps even My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (and maybe even My Little Pony: Equestria Girls). It seems that both Draph and Elune are both Female Only Race, and they relied on a Human Male to reproduce. Causing a Polygamy Polygyny thing. (In contrast to what some Ero Doujinshi potrayed Orcs as a Male Only Race that used other Races Females to reproduce) Again. Things got complicated when Male Draph and Male Elun got introduced. That being said, officially the height differences between a Male Human and a Female Draph is like the height differences between a Male Draph and a Female Human. In Pretty Derby, there are NO HORSES in that world, only horse girls. All of them are mares, NO Stallion. Any contributor…? ;) In MLP:FiM's Season 1, the majority of the Ponies are Mares… Females. The rest, it is the same. The Pinkie Pie Clones implied the alternative is cloning. #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure #SEGAGAGA #Dolmexica #XenoSEGA
Discovery has a crew of about 87 I heard in season 3 so I wonder why all the Turblifts just buzzing around unless some crew members are just pushing buttons for turbolifts and not boarding them
Another thing that bugs me is the outer ring connection to the inner saucer. I mean it looks cool but it is totally ineficient. Imagine trying to get to the inner saucer. You have to run all the way to the near access bridge. I guess you can take the turbolift but does a turbolift goes through the bridge?
Yeah, what always bothered me is that the inner and outer rings sometimes rotate, in opposite directions. So how do you connect to them then? The tube where we see Burnham and Tilly running laps at 1:36 would need to be withdrawn somehow so that the rings could rotate. It just seems stupid.
Funny that (if I'm not mistaking) after the "refit" they removed them completely, so now you'll have to ether use your personal (combadge) transporter or go waaay back to the neck part... makes so much sense (Picard's double facepalm).
@@J.Wolf90 Ah yes, because nothing says "realistic sci-fi" more than telepathic aliens and mirror universes. Star Trek has always been on the softer side of the sci-fi spectrum.
The best part about STD is that with openly gay characters being introduced in a prequel means at some point in the future we got rid of them. 😆 oh cmon thats funny.
3:09 Either I'm very mistaken or this hangar shield technology didn't exist by that time. In TOS they had to evacuate the hangar, decompress, let the ship land, then flood the atmosphere back.
With modern 3d modeling software you can "walk" inside you creations. People have made models of Enterprise and Voyager you can download and run around in right now. How hard is it for professionals to NOT make 1:1 starships when so much of it is CGI in the first place?
On one hand, this TARDIS-like bigger on the inside technology was already established in the Enterprise episode Future Tense (that was mentioned here). So, discovery might have been refitted with a new turbolift system. A refit like that in such a short time is an act of magic in itself of course. On the other hand, a short trek showed enterprise having a similar rollercoaster turbolift. I miss the old turbolift shafts.
And people complained that the Enterprise in JJ's movies was too big, if those interior scenes are right the Discovery must make a Borg cube look like a childs toy.
Dumm question but, aren't the future peeps sposed to have them tiny personal transporter thingies on them? So why isn't the guy falling in 5:24 just... beaming away instead of screaming like a mad pigdog?
if you can do that with maintenance spaces then why not your hull? you could use that "space" between the outer and secondary hulls (the people tank) for either low tech ablative armor or multiple layers of protective shelding or go extra low tech and use it for storage and supplies enough for the federation to be a fleet of generation ships, no need to change crews. starbases would be kinda redundant outside of truely massive construction projects like a deathstar. ...frak this show.
So, the attention to scale given to a today's live action show is worse than the attention to scale of Space Battleship Yamato, an anime from the 70s. (Btw, Yamato 2199, the 2012 remake of the old series does scale everything correctly because its creator cared.)
No, the PoA was supposed to be massive I've seen charts showing where the areas of the ship interior were to the exterior, it's just limitations of rendering the exterior in places that was a problem. the biggest issue halo had in this regard was actually keeping the forward unto dawn the correct class - they changed it for halo 4 (343) because they felt it was too small or something like that.
