Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Enterprise) 

I am here after the UAP hearing 😂

The best part is that this incident was what led to Starfleet renaming General Order 1 to the Prime Directive.

I'm sure the fanfic is being written as we speak.

I know the technical capabilities of a Constitution 2 Heavy Cruiser Starship. It's a considerably big stick as described. But the firepower of this vessel can lay waste to the surface of the planet. It doesn't quite have the muscles to destroy a planet completely. General Order 23 authorises the use of this firepower to destroy source of signal. This was during Kirk's tenure on the Enterprise with Eminiar 7 - and 8 years later. I think. The starship class packs a lot of power and there's no doubt that it could do so, as I have described. As to destroy a planet completely. Not normally I suspect! Destroying the surface of a planet, yes, it's got this capacity to do so. I would suspect that the Excelsior or the Enterprise B WOULD have that capacity of destroying a planet. But that's not the intended mission of Federation Starship crews - observation, and gentle encouragement is the best way to get it done. And unobtrusive as well! Destroying planets is not an option. Unless part of the Terran Empire Fleet. Starfleet in our reality would not do it.

First time I have seen this. Didn't hear the word stick.

@@stephenfarthing3819 It might not crack the core but everyone would be dead just the same.

@@stephenfarthing3819 I'm not sure even the newer ships have the ability to destroy a whole planet but they can turn the crust into molten rock. The outer layer of a planet is just a small part of the planet overall. We seen something similar happen in DS9 when the Tal Shair attacked what they thought was the dominion home world. They had about 20 ships and the first combined salvo destroyed %40 of the planets surface.

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yeah, cause your diplomatic handling of cardassia worked REAL great.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far" 26th Earth USA President Theodore Roosevelt

@@Mandelbrotmat I never understood the great following Picard had, he has always come off as hypocritical and pompous; Kirk is the best Captain, followed closely by Sisko.

@@nerofl89 you so right! I like Picard but Kirk is the man! All you need to know about the Sisko is watch IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT!🖖🏾 Hell even Worf is intimated by Sisko!😎

We have airplanes that can hover already, though with very inefficient energy usage. But can't see what is stopping something so far out of our reach from hovering too.

In star trek, star ships can fly underwater, in violent atmospheres, across the surface of starts, etc. Hovering in one spot over a 1g planet is a cake walk

In Voyager, the Delta flyer not only traveled underwater but went to an absurd depth of like 500,000 meters in that waterworld episode. At a mere 5,000 meters underwater, you're facing 500x the pressure at Earth sea level. That's 50,000 atmospheres of pressure the Delta Flyer was under! Then in DS9's Starship Down, the Defiant struggles to withstand the atmospheric pressure in the upper atmosphere of a gas giant. Obviously we don't know the specifics of the planet, but using Jupiter as an example, the highest pressure measured in Jupiter's upper atmosphere is a mere 22x Earth sea level. There's wild inconsistencies even among the classically beloved Trek series and people wanna complain about a ship hovering in the sky 🙄🙄

When you can warp space.... yeah you can nullify the gravity field/spacial warp of a planet and just float there.

​@@hettbeansFry: How many atmospheres can we take? Professor Farnsworth: Well, it's a _space_ ship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one.

blowing through the clouds like the ship from Independence Day, really emphasize its size and power, and apparent perceived to those below it.

nuTrek doesn't have good CGI directors. Just look at all the battles in Discovery. The Battle of the Binary Stars was semi-decent and it got progressively worse with every episode.

@@JAnx01my biggest issue with the cgi in the new shows is how fast the ship’s maneuver. Makes them feel a lot smaller than they actually are. Regardless of what you think of the reboot movies, they got the ship cgi spot on.

We have it. People ignore it. Also, be careful what you wish for.

@@O1OO1O1 we are ignoring aliens on the news?

@@BGRANT777X something like that, yes. Did you know about the hearings in congress? Bet you don't.

@@O1OO1O1 I'm aware, I've been interested in UFO sightings since I was a kid and I know this is the first since blue book. I also know that the entire UFO "industry" is full of liars, half truths, swindlers and straight up con men. The hearing really is based around a fear of UAVs which are UFO when you don't know who is operating them. Most UFO scams are based around the willful ignorance that UFO and Aliens spacecraft are not the same thing. Also the press photos they are using for the hearings were those total legit videos of UFOs from about two years ago which were proven to be ducks. There just isn't a single piece of rock solid evidence of aliens visiting earth as much I would like it to be true.

Indeed fingers crossed some are already disgused as us to help us aclumate to the idea tho there taking a bloody long time

I’m just glad it taught me that conservatives caused WW3 in the Trek universe. I get anxious if a whole hour of TV goes by without seeing any anti-fascist propaganda.

@@HawkGTboy is the whole world a zero sum game to you? That was the real cause of WW3

You would hope so.

Or the opportunity to come together and reach for the stars.

@@oddish4352 that, too

Kirk: "Hold my Tribble."

I differ, we are not failing, you are watching freedom unfold this year, 1776 moment watch what happens so you can tell your grand kids and there kids what happens here. have hope. there is no stopping what is coming. Checkmate

It's literally the plot of the episode. Technically he wasn't even breaking it because they were developing warp tech based of the star fleet battle they observed through their telescopes.

This show may end up taking place in an alternate timeline. We will see.

they already shown what happens when pike trys to change his fate

Always.

@@devinworthley6437 And knowing when to break it.

@@Globalman43 Which, again, is always.

It was probably by accident

I'd argue that Pike reaches the same conclusion here that Kirk ('A Private Little War') and Picard ('Who Watches the Watchers?') both reach: where substantial cross-cultural contamination has already occurred, the Captain's duty is to minimise potential fall-out (literal and metaphorical).

I am here after the UAP hearing 😂

It was mentioned in the episode that the Federation couldn’t do anything to Pike because it would expose a classified incident.

That's RedBull junior Kirk and died in combat Pike.

@@AWriterWandering two

@@jamestopoleski9255 The Starfleet was very militaristic in TOS, actually. They destroyed one planet (Tycho IV) and threatened to destroy two more (Talos IV, Eminiar VII), so Pike wasn't _not_ acting 'by the book' in _The Cage._

@@Idazmi7 considering they had just come off the back of a war with the Klingons prior to TOS and the Klingons were constantly poking and prodding in an attempt to start another war I do not blame them for being militaristic. It was a different era of starfleet when captains had more independent authority as they might be the only ship within several sectors and so you just had to operate independently.

Viewers don't want to wait 5 minutes for the Enterprise to slowly makes it way down. Same thing in Generations, the exploding star would turn dark a few minutes after the missile was launched, but nobody wants to see Picard and Soran sitting around doing nothing for a few minutes.

That above, and the fact, the ship is pretty nippy, even. At full impulse speed it can travel just under the speed of light xD

was it 65% bad?

Bruh, it's fucking brilliant. As far as first episodes go, this one was excellent. The captain proceeds to explain to them the history of our world, how we lost 600.000 species, how our wars were fought over nothing.

Aye with deflector shields heat/friction isn't nearly as big an issue and she was probably holding position over the city at the time in orbit. Take one look at the Voyager bridge flyby or enterprise when it drops in to destroy that facility in the temporal cold war episodes (Voyager is probably the best for speed)

It can't and yet it does. Don't let facts conflict with theory.

I am not sure if would be safe to do so however it would probably be fairly easy to do!

Yeah, they should have just waited and stared at each other for a minute until the ship descends, to be completely accurate. The problems you people have...

@@PomPomPP Yes they should have or they could also have transported some of the representatives to prove they had the bigger stick, so to speak! I do realise the point you are trying to make!

There's canon and there's Star Trek advancing existing tech. If Hey Google already works across the room in the 21st century...

@@fallinginthed33p, the writers must not violate established canon, even though modern technology has various advances. How will they explain that SNW had greater tech than TOS? You cannot claim that your rebuttal is logical.

@@recoverinyankee6458 They simply won't explain it because fans will understand why they are doing it. If you insist that all technology prior TOS may not be more advanced than the technology shown in TOS than you have the problem that we are already are more advanced in some areas than they could imagine in the 1960. Prime example would be flatscreens, can't have them before the 2260 because TOS only had tube-monitors. Trying to keep the technical canon intact will lead to one of two possible outcomes: either a lot of silly explanations while the old tech is still in use. Or the creation of a separate timeline where the flatscreens are not invented until after TOS, maybe because the eugenic-wars of 1996 prevented it. In both cases it will looking ridiculous when they are working with obsolete tech in the future. But we want Star Trek not to be in some kind of alternate future, we want it to be in our future. That is why the same fans that usually complain about every minor canon violation have no problem accepting pushing back the date of World War 3/ Eugenic Wars and however they will deal with Bell Riots that are supposed to be happening in two years. So the silent advancement of technology to both match what we can do today and still be futuristic is a necessity.

@@recoverinyankee6458 Sticking to canon would be illogical if real technology is more advanced than what was in TOS. Besides, sticklers for canon tend to be the most boring people around.

@@fallinginthed33p, what kind of person does not expect canon to be maintained in various television shows and in various movies? Probably a crazy person. Star Trek "Enterprise" (chronologically before Strange New Worlds) has communicators which must be in the open position, and the user must be within close proximity in order to operate. Star Trek "TOS" and Star Trek "Continues" (6onologically after SNW) has communicators which must be in the open position, and the user must be within close proximity in order to operate. Please tell me how to reconcile the lack of continuous canon in SNW!

The 1701 did enter Earth’s atmosphere in the TOS episode Tomorrow is Yesterday. Not intentionally, but it was able to handle it. I would agree that really massive ships like the D probably can’t maintain atmospheric flight.

Canon also remembers the NX-01 entering the atmosphere as did kirks Enterprise when she was flung into the path of a US jet, kinda dumb to think starfleet ships couldn’t enter the atmosphere under control conditions and oh yes that Star Trek invention called shields.

USS Voyager

That was only true during TNG. Which I thought was dumb to begin with since a shuttle craft could and that thing is just as much of a flying brick. TOS had the Enterprise going into Earth's atmosphere at least once that I can remember. By DS9 many of the smaller ships could including the Defiant, as that ship was shown entering and fighting Jem'Hadar fighters in a gas giant. Badly mind you, but it still did it.

Yes and when the Enterprise lost power for an hour or two, it was going to burn up in a decaying orbit. Oddly Sputnik and Telstar didn't do that. Oddly The Moon doesn't do that. The whole thing was a crisis trope. You can't even excuse them for not yet understanding the orbital science...because as mentioned that science was known since Kepler and Newton. The writers were western writers and airplane jockeys that crashed when the horses broke free or the engines cut out. Just like Warp was supersonic jet and Impulse was prop plane stuff in their logic...both would get you there and you could see each other. However this is just as much writer fantasy as no object in high orbit could deorbit, transverse the upper atmosphere without heat, and just materialize in visible city hover in 20 seconds. That is flying saucer stuff from "The Day The Earth Stood Still" so they hung a lantern on it.

Says who?

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Feel free to point to a history book where the dominant group willingly admit they were wrong in their beliefs and surrender to a future of equal shares for all.

That’s untrue. People are not as evil as you’re trying to make them. In essence, the vast vast vast majority of people are good and do good

@@Ash_Rein no, they conform out of fear. Realworld questions: Does the government of the Ukraine have the right to suspend the pro russian political parties of the Ukraine, and deny their supporters the right to vote?

@@SMunro you’re looking at it from a imperialist point of view. This is not the natural state of human beings. People are naturally inclined to be kind to each other. But capitalism and imperialism create situation for people fear losing what they have. Greed destroys that kindness

If you can warp spacetime I think a Starship can hover in place using impulse power...

Go back and watch ST:IV The Voyage Home where a Klingon BOP hovers just over a whaling ship.

It can. It's called plot armour. Something George Lucas Rottenberry Gene of war trek star star invented

@@nyteR That was a special case. The Bird of Prey was a tiny 12 man ship, and it had wings and landing gear. It was clearly made for atmospheric flight.

@@HawkGTboy In TOS this very Enterprise without Warp Power and sluggish impulse engines both maintained and was even able to gain altitude within the atmosphere of Earth in the episode ""Tomorrow is Yesterday". So there is literally no violation of canon here not that we should even be considering such.

Actually, it can: it did in TOS. Not that I'm defending this show: I'm not.

@@Idazmi7 I the TOS episode they had plunged into the higher atmosphere but they were not hovering. They had to put out a lot of thrust to keep up. That's a bit different than hovering about 1000 feet or so over a city with no forward momentum. The enterprise of that era simply wasn't something that went into an atmosphere.

@@cb-gz1vl _"I the TOS episode they had plunged into the higher atmosphere but they were not hovering. They had to put out a lot of thrust to keep up."_ The ship was also heavily damaged from smashing into a black hole at warp speed. Which, if you hadn't noticed, is not the case here. Yes, the Enterprise can indeed hover in an atmosphere.

@@Idazmi7 There is literally no evidence of this in TOS. All it did was fly in the upper atmosphere and struggled to do so. Its not an atmospheric ship.

@@cb-gz1vl It does so on several occasions. I'm confused why you say it can't It does so throughout Tomorrow is Yesterday. It also comes down low enough to fire on a city block in Piece of the Action. In Operation-Annihilate Enterprise deploys satellites around Deneva at an altitude of 72km, assuming Deneva is roughly Earth like in size that would be in its upper atmosphere. Enterprise was definitely not a deep space only vessel.

Oh, it is... SNW is very star trek

it's more startrek then STD.

@@Eggstree1 Very true as I'll grant that. However that's very low hanging fruit given how much the franchise has been destroyed by lazy and incompetent science fiction writing.

Well DUH!

this is the most Star Trek thing since fuckin DS9 was on the air my dude

There wasn't a "Prime Directive" yet. Just Starfleet General order 1.

Yeah, because the original series never had the prime directive being broken...where can I find a sarcastic 🙄 (there we go) emoji?

Not the SACRED PRIME DIRECTIVE!

All star trek series had an episode witch the prime directive was broken