Especially if you are an Intl Relations major. There's a lot of parallel between the alliance institutions and privileges offered by the Federation and with a certain real-world great power.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop I don't like trashing new Trek series for trying something different, but I honestly think this is where shows like Discovery and Picard really lost their way This episode of SNW really spoke volumes to me because it demonstrated that the show was interested in returning to the formula that made Star Trek so great...which was as you and OP put it...educating past, current, and future generations to build toward the society that Trek envisioned so many years ago
I heard it more as a "Thank you for being the most openly honest, and most worthy of our loyalty." Anson Mount is utterly owning the Christopher Pike character.
@@Arondeight Inside, he was probably "Oh thank fuck somebody can actually think like we do. Here I thought there isn't a single other considerate species in the galaxy..."
@@Arondeight, I was thinking that, too. Maybe his first reaction was to refuse, but he reconsidered when he recognized the value of Pike's sincere appreciation of the R'ongovian position.
@@christopherg2347 yeah, sometimes he seems more awkward, but he can be funny. sometimes he makes the wrong decisions, but I think that's one of the reasons I like him. In many ways, knowing his fate, he's a more complicated person to understand.
"Why are you a fan of star trek"> Because its the only one that has hope, hope for better, despite adversity and self destructive nature and deeply flawed beings. Hope.
And what makes Star Trek's hope amazing is that it's a post-apocalypse story. They remade this world of hope literally from the ashes of the old world.
he is so freaking good. I keep thinking about that scene when he's choking up b/c he thinks Uhura and Hemmer have died and then he hears their voices...and the relief that you see in his face was tangible. incredible actor to go from throwing out quips and one-liners...to a dramatic scene like that
Over the top, over-optimistic, perhaps because the plot is constrained in one episode, but the message is clear, sound and much needed in nowadays world. Listen to the other's point of view, try to make it yours. Yeah this is 100% Trek alright. I am sooo happy to have given SNW a chance. I'd welcome 7 seasons of this stuff.
This is VERY reminiscent of TOS. A single self-contained episode, with a simple message, dealing with some interesting philosophical concepts and political ideas in a sci-fi way.
The Enterprise redesign (can we call it that? it's mostly a difference in the material quality, ie.. instead of being a plastic miniature, it's a 3d render with physically-based materials) is almost impossible to take a bad photo of. It's stunning in every scene. The intro sequence is goddamned amazing.
"The android at the bar said you could show me my old ship. Let me see it. ... The Enterprise. Show me the ... Enterprise, you chattering piece of .... N. C. C. 1. 7. 0. 1. No bloody "A", "B", "C" or "D"."
tell that to trekyards lol they say this Enterprise's paint is too dark to be the same as TOS, but it IS but don't realize that due to advances in CGI and lighting techniques that this Enterprise is what it would look like with light sources
@@Tosslehoffe its amazing to see an Enterprise look so good with proper lighting, other shows did some lighting but usually skipped it in post, but SNW is next level more of a modernization, keeping the classic look but making it look sleeker and modern as well as updating the internals from the 60s stuff Its the best looking Enterprise Trekyards be damned
Both? ;) Now, sure Stewart as Picard and Shatner as Kirk have had alot more screen time, but Anson and the writers certainly have given us every bit of proof as to why Pike was credited as being among the _best_ Starfleet Captains of all time.
Kirk, Picard, Janeway, Archer, and Burnham were self righteous and a bit arrogant at times Sisko, Pike, Saru, and Shaw are more humble in their approach they are captains who lead without ego.
And unlike Picard he knows what firing weapons and being badass are. I mean, comeon bro stole a pirate ship and acted like one XD Also he is much closer to his crewmen than even archer was! He is the best of 3 Different captains, 2 of wich Spok know's personaly!
@@time391 Probably because he's supposed to be a combination of every federation protag that star trek has ever had. The diplomacy of picard,the grit of sisko, the kindness of janeway,archer's bravery, and the charm of kirk. You can basically see all them in SNW pike, because he is by all definitions the series first captain.
@@christianresel8051 I would argue a different kind of badass though. Picard could convince you to give up every posession you own and make you think it it was your idea. plus every time he tries to be kirk it nearly kills him.
Since this Series is available I'm my country I am absolutely binge watching it. It is so we'll produced and just again a bit more optimistic without throwing out all the work DS9 did. Absolutely amazing
THIS is Star Trek. The action and high stakes are great. But This is the core of Trek. Hopeful futures thru being our best selves Not just overpowering and out gunning everything ever.
This is always the type of star trek scene that truly holds up. It doesn't need flashy special effects, or massive armadas of ships. It's "just" people talking in a room, but it still conveys a thousand times more nuance and meaning than the biggest cgi space battle
One of the best, certainly. I think you can put any captain somewhere in a triangle scale of 'explorer', 'warrior' and 'diplomat' - Pike is pretty much an ideal of the latter - both dealing with others and how he runs his crew. Sisko is probably the ideal of the starfleet 'fighting captain', and so on. Others fall somewhere between the two styles.
Radical empathy works. It’s why the talking heads keep spitting out talking points and nonsense to keep us squabbling over things that keep us from realizing at a base level we all have the same wants and needs. This is of course a threat to those in power… so expect it to continue. However, if more of us could “play a hunch” we could finally move forward
we had kirk, piccard, janeway and sisco established as great captain in previous iterations. This one definetly made pike into a all time best ones, that will be refrenced and seen as benchmark for future like other were for this one.
gold may be an ingredient in their ships hull. gold titanium alloy is stronger than titanium itself and titanium is stronger than iron or uranium, that's why it's named after the titans of greek mythology.
it annoys me how he is expected to forge an alliance, then criticized when trying his hunch/approach and then congratulated if he is the expert, let the man work
How to negotiate with alien species... Andorians - "We have a common enemy." Tellarite - Insults come handy. Vulcan - Logic. Regollians - Brutal honesty...?
When I watched this episode, I thought the Spock-T'Pring switch part was pretty flat, because it barely impacted the story. The R'ongovian subplot, on the other hand, more than made up for it.
how much was his hunch based on the fact he has to retain his rank to fulfill his time travel paradox act, and if they didnt join he would loose said rank and thus couldnt fulfill it
See Robert April there? This isn't the first show he appeared on. No, I'm not talking about the Trek cartoon. I'm talking about the western series "Have Gun - Will Travel", which was Gene Roddenberry's first major series gig (he wrote about 10% of the episodes). Roddenberry introduced a chaplain named Robert April in one episode, and then had Robert April appear in another episode. (Or I would argue it was another character also named Robert April since the two behaved nothing alike.) Roddenberry really had a thing for the name "Robert April", and I don't know why. It's not what I consider a great name. I do fully recommend "Have Gun - Will Travel" though. It was a smart western, with our hero Paladin as a gun for hire who always put principles first. This meant he might drop a job if he found out that his employer was crooked, or he'd defend a schoolmarm for free, or he'd risk his neck to make sure a fugitive got his day in court. Paladin operated out of San Francisco, incidentally, which you may recall is where Starfleet is headquartered. Coincidence? I think not.
It would be worth it just for the science alone. The readon the Federation is so powerful is because they share scientific data from every member species. Imagine having the tech of 100 alien races at your disposal.
It took 2 aweful series and a self parody for Paramount to actually get the formula back for what makes good trek. SNW has done a fantastic job even if it does still have too much JJ flair in it.
Hey, as a Lower Deck fan, I resent that. Sure, it doesn't have the philosophical appeal of other Star Trek series. Still, the story about the everyman/woman of Star Fleet in highly convoluted plots that entangle Star Fleet is just as engaging.
I’m going to be real with you, I do not like Uhura’s haircut. At least I could give the 60’s one a pass because that was the style at the time for attractive women. But every time I watch this show I keep forgetting that Uhura looks like this canonically now. Which brings me to my other problem, just have all new trek shows take place in its own cannon! I’m not even saying their all bad, Picard season 3 has been great and so has this show, But most of this shit doesn’t feel cannon to me anyway
@@childe57 because Star Trek used to be able to do both with the original 5 shows so I hold it to that standard. If you don’t want me to, make this it’s own timeline.
@@JakeTylenol ST has already demonstrated that every show that occurs prior to TOS is its own timeline. Changes to the past due to time interventions have resulted in alternate timelines. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds does not result in TOS
"Chris, what the hell was that?" "The power of plot over the need to consider how two people might actually negotiate at a table. Can you imagine what it would take for the writers to live up to the standards of The Orville? Our target audience hasn't got time for slow burn story telling which means character development is a luxury we need to do without. Emotional engagement without a foundation may only result in short term appreciation but that's all Trek is now. Cod philosophic preaching that no one will remember the next day while Isaac's suicide is still talked about for daring to bring something that can and has effected many of us on many levels with a touch of the quill you wont' find here. Why drag out something that won't be investigated from any angle? Let's spell it out for our audience, collect our paychecks and go home. Then tomorrow... we'll do it all over again."
@@theguywithsomething8634 the Orville is way clunkier with unearned character moments. This was actually really well done episode and this is the nut of the takeaway for a whole new generation of Trek.
@@Camasf I don't agree with your assessment of the Orville especially the last couple of seasons got way better. It says alot that many of that many star trek alumni direct and appear on the show. Especially Johnathan Frakes and Levar Burton who are pretty damn awesome directors and writers themselves done a few episodes each.
this is the best out of the gate trek ever . they where a bit poor as they tried to find there feet . this show hit the ground running . yep it has a few low point, but one the whole season one of this is better than any others treks first seasons.
