Jerry Goldsmith was the best! So nice to see him recognized! The workload for scoring this was pretty high, so he asked his son Joel to help. He did a great deal of the Borg music, and went on to score a lot of Stargate SG-1. Both died way too young.
Yes, Voyager was airing its second season when this was released. Bob invoking De to improvise, "I'm a doctor, not a ..." during one of his auditions for Voyager is one of the things that helped him get cast. I imagine that using the EMH here was a way for Paramount to promote Voyager and, by extension, UPN (which was also relatively new) Also, whales are mammals, not fish. * shakes fist at cloud * Also, that is like Marina Sirtis at most convention panels ... which is delightful. A Vulcan dancing? Voyager!
TNG never really had it's own unique theme. The intro theme you hear was simply recycled from Star Trek The Motion Picture. The theme in this movie is perfect for TNG and they even use it as the them for Picard Season 3, which might as well be TNG Season 8.
The V'ger nebula sound was done with a blaster beam, a concept instrument based on a long metal beam (~5m/15ft) with steel wires mounted on it under tension, with electric guitar pickups to register the vibration of the wires and turn them into sound. It's played by striking the wires with anything you have: fingers, pipes, rods, sticks,... artillery shells... Essentially an electric guitar on steroids. The refined version mostly heard was built and patented by former child actor Craig Huxley (he appeared twice in TOS as a kid!), who also performed it in the Star Trek movie scores, including here. Goldsmith was always eager to incorporate strange instruments and noise makers into his scores. Arthur Morton, his long-time orchestrator, once said, after there was some strange sound in the studio: "Find out what makes that noise, then give it to Jerry."
Some funny observations about this movie: Dr. Crusher says "I swore I'd never use one of these" before activating the EMH. Well, yeah, that's kind of the point! The EMH is only there in case all the ship's medical staff dies! We know from both TNG and Voyager that Borg drones separated from the collective eventually regain their individuality. So what happened to the Borg who got thrown into space during the big action scene on the outside of the ship? I mean, they probably fell into Earth's gravity and burned up, but did they regain their self-awareness before they did? I hope not! Kind of horrifying to think about. :P Why are Borg plans so convoluted? Why didn't they just travel back in time before they battled a hundred Federation ships? Do it before the Federation even knows what they're doing and their plan probably can't fail! It's ok, though. I know if they did it that way, there wouldn't be a movie. :P Also, the helmsman on the bridge of the Defiant in the opening battle scene is Adam Scott.
Christina knew right away it wasn't Bizet. She's a true trekkie! :) 20:00 After TOS ended, security / engineering turned from red into yellow, so the yellows usually die in TNG and after. :)
It was great seeing the two of you react to this one together. I remember when you first brought him to our attention. You’ve both grown into doing excellent jobs with your reaction videos. My favorite moments were… “Why’d they call him Locutus? He’s not even cute.” 😄 It was perfectly corny and I appreciate that. 😁 The other moment wad when you both shared your regular sign off. Brilliant job by the both of you. 👏👏👏
From early in your conversation, I highly, HIGHLY recommend "The Secret of NIMH." Still one of the best animated kids' movies to this day (one of my childhood faves) Goldsmith goes nuts on that score, and it had such beautiful, sparkling visuals and a heart-felt story with likeable characters. I'll bet any amount of money you'll love Secret of NIMH Ollie. Yes, Jerry scored the first Alien movie as well.
Since my knowledge of opera is … wanting, I opened my copy of First Contact and gave my iPhone’s built-in music recognition a try… and this is what she came up with … I’m going to type what I see on my iPhone’s screen… “Hector Berlioz Les Troyens Op. 29, H133, Act V: No. 38 “Vallon sonore””
Christina and Ollie, here is a bit of trivia from TNG. Do you know some of the scenes have ductwork with the letters GNDN? Those letters are for the set designers to help locate conduit housing power wires and water pipes, because the ones marked GNDN were cosmetic only, and the pipes "Go Nowhere, and Do Nothing"...GNDN. Look for them within scenes!
In the long history of Real Trek, the scene where the aliens are revealed to be Vulcans at the end is the most perfect, most genuinely heartfelt moment to me.
It's long been a popular fan theory that after the events of "Relics", Montgomery Scott was involved in the design of the Sovereign class and personally oversaw the construction of the Enterprise-E.
"Assimilate this!" Hey Ollie! 😁 Some people say the idea of a Borg Queen ruins the Borg. I disagree. She doesn't control the Borg, she is the Borg. She is the expression of the Borg. She's the face of the Borg. Much like Locutus, she is the focal point of interaction. If you think of the Borg Queen in those terms, she makes sense. Fun Fact: At the end of filming, actor and director Jonathan Frakes got the nickname "Two-Takes Frakes" because of the efficiency of his style. Absolute Defiant Fact: The U.S.S. Defiant, introduced on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993), was built for the sole purpose of fighting and defeating the Borg. This film features the only time the ship fights the Borg. Family Affair Fact: Although his name is never given in this film, according to Star Trek canon, the Vulcan who salutes Zefram Cochrane (James Cromwell) is named Solkar (Cully Fredricksen). As mentioned in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock (1984), Solkar is the grandfather of Sarek (Mark Lenard) and subsequently the great-grandfather of Spock (Leonard Nimoy). Twelve Parsecs Fact: Industrial Light & Magic animators created several new classes of Federation starships for the huge CGI animation sequence against the Borg. Classes include the Akira, Sabre, Steamrunner, and others. In addition, the Industrial Light & Magic animators had a little fun with this by placing a shot of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars in the battle, which can be seen in several DVD versions of this film. The scene showing this can easily be seen by going to the Star Trek fansite, Daystrom Institute Technical Library, and looking at the sixth and last image for the Akira-class starship. There, just under the Akira's port nacelle, you can see the Millennium Falcon just after she made a strafing run on the Borg Cube.
Makes sense, like the bridge modules they were probably modular units fitted in so similar in spec for similar era ships. At least that's my lore hypothesis.
When Cocharine downs that shot of the bad stuff and he does the arm pump it is a direct channeling of the Jack Nicholson character from the 1968 film Easy Rider.
For more of Zefram Cochrane see: Enterprise: Broken Bow and Regeneration, TOS: Metamorphosis and Lower Decks: Grounded. "I can't wait for you to get to Picard". Does she...not like him? I'm pretty sure that this is just Sarek's grandfather: no greats. Vulcans live a long time. Ah, Imzadi. Gotta' love Peter David. Cheers reactions? I'm in.
Hey great reaction and collab, I know that Roly Poly guy! Star Trek is awesome. Nice job Christina! Happy Memorial Day! I love your hair like that btw. 😊
Externally I love this version of the Enterprise, but the bridge of the D is visually more pleasing, less clutter and brighter. The E seems to have more consoles for extra tactical stations which makes sense for a more battleship oriented purpose, but there's just something aesthetically balanced about the bridge of the D. I do like the bridge colour scheme though with the red doors, it harkens back to previous movie bridges like The Undiscovered Country.
Have you watched The Orville? All I can say for anyone who hasn't seen it but loves TNG, they need to see it! At least for the way it feels, it's almost like getting more episodes of TNG. It's not a parody, it's a heartfelt homage, but it doesn’t retread too much. It brings great new sci-fi/space opera stories to the table, it's just that they feel like they'd fit perfectly in TNG.
Remember, the "red shirts" don't wear red in this era. In TOS, red uniforms were worn by security personnel, but from TNG onward, they wore gold/yellow. So, a disposable character would most likely be wearing that.
I know part of the reason the Enterprise D was destroyed, outside of what I believe was a mandate, was due to how difficult it was to shoot with the model, but I’ve come to miss it in the TNG flicks as I’ve gotten older. It’s really grown on me over the years and is now my number 2 starship design under the constitution refit.
I'm with you! Constitution refit Enterprise/Enterprise A > Enterprise D > NSEA Protector (from Galaxyquest) > Enterprise B > Enterprise C > Enterprise E > Enterprise NX 01
Loved this your reactions are so much better with another person, more animated and input lively well done usually you are very quiet and not much said THIS was great you came alive! maybe watch with your husband sometime
Well my favorite Enterprise is the Foxtrot, so to speak, but I mainly love it from Star Trek Online, and all I shall say is that that timeline doesn't appear to gel with TV/Movie canon. I just _love_ the Odyssey class though; not so much that I ever _flew_ it in STO because I like the Defiant-like ships and the Akira-class variants more but... seriously.
It's unfortunate they didn't give Marina Sertis more comic relief lines in TNG, Troy would have been so more valuable, she is so naturally funny, and sardonic!
"What happens if you get to the Enterprise-Z?" Well... honestly, they never should have added letters to begin with. The only time the letters made sense was with the 1701-A, because it was still of the same hull type as the 1701 (first production-line ship of the 17th starship class) The name should always be just "Enterprise", and if they are going to establish some tradition with the numbering, it should have simply been the -01 For example, rather than 1701-B, the Excelsior-class Enterprise should have instead followed the Excelsior NX-2000 as the first production model of its class, NCC-2001 Then, about a half century later, the Ambassador-class Enterprise to follow should have been NCC-10501 instead of NCC-1701-C, and so forth All that said, it would have retroactively fixed the problem if the later (or rather, earlier) original Enterprise being NX-01 There is simply no real world example of any vessel of any kind getting letters added to their registry just because they carry the same name (like the aircraft carriers named Enterprise being CV-6, CVN-65, and soon CVN-80), nor was there any precedent in any Star Trek up to that point of letters added to the registry either. I imagine an alternate timeline where either Voyage Home ended with a different starship reveal, where instead of passing by the Excelsior, it instead panned down to see the Excelsior name replaced with the name Enterprise - or as Kirk and crew get their new Enterprise, the "Next Generation" existed at the same time, and they were instead the crew of the Excelsior (still Jean Luc Picard, Riker, Data, Troi and all the rest, but simply being in the 23rd Century rather than the 24th), then you'd have all the opportunity in the world for TOS cast cameos without having to have some timey wimey contrivance to get them involved.
@@edwardpate6128maybe not. It goes against TOS and leads to the horrible ENTERPRISE show. In TOS Cochrane was normal looking and DISCOVERED the space warp. Not how it is here with earth being late to the party.
Thank you. The scene where Picard et. al. are try to release the main deflector dish and they rearrange the glowing 'cards' maybe be a reference early computing. Early computers were programmed by re-configuring physical parts in a similar way.
Oh that's right. The big machines that took up a whole room. That makes sense. I always find it fascinating that the crew just knows all that stuff like where the cards need to go. They are super smart!
