@@VulcanOnWheels A. I made that comment 4 years ago, buddy. B. I know that, I've seen literally every episode of every Star Trek show. It was what us non-Vulcans call "a joke".
@@alphanerd7221 no it's because she does shit that even Kirk would cringe at, also adding like 15 years to their trip home to look at every little anomaly and stick her nose into every conflict they happen by
@@Chaplain_Asmodai she's an explorer, a scientist, and a Starfleet captain. Of course she's going to do all of those things. I'm so tired of people criticizing Janeway for making stupid or ridiculous choices. She can be brash, overbearing, and irrational when it comes to protecting her ship and her crew, but everything she does is The kind of mindset someone needs to survive where they are. She will risk everything to protect her crew, Kirk would be lucky to be half the captain she is. Besides, she cringes at Kirk's captaincy lol
+Foebane72 but they hadn't realized that till after Janeway came out. when they still thought it was real, where would they have realistically gone on the ship and be safe from a warp core explosion?
Intrepid class is also a much smaller ship than the Galaxy class. Less energy in the warp core while operating, easier to confine it. Likely the Voyager has enough batteries and aux power to keep up the containment field levels needed to actually withstand a core breach, while a Galaxy class core breach exceeds what the field can withstand while operating on aux power.
Warp core explosion is meant to rip an entire ship apart. B'elanna and Tuvok: 'Let's just move one corridor over. I'm sure that'll be far enough to stay out of the blast radius.'
@@mirkwoodphotography2089 no but I think the point of it is to shunt the explosion down, so its more likely to blow out under the ship and leave the rest of the ship to be used as a life raft
Not only has Janeway become impervious to antimatter explosions, but Voyager seems to as well, considering a warp core breach has invariably destroyed every other ship to experience one.
Yeah it was pretty brilliant of B'Elanna to come up with this "contain the warp core breach" strategy to save the ship, a shame nobody thought of that before.
Tuvok: A dream is an unlikely assertion Captain, it is more plausible that you've indeed become impervious to antimatter explosions. Janeway: I thought so.
I wonder if Tom knows about Marvin the Martian. I bet he's a fan, and I would've loved to see a reference in the show but by god Disney would've sued the hell out of them.
Everyone from a higher technological species took one look at the Enterprise's engine room and ran away screaming. Scotty cracked his knuckles and pulled out the duct tape. Janeway challenged it to a game of chicken. Humans are fucking awesome.
+Damian Sweeney Believe it or not, in the very next scene after this one, B'Elanna points out that very fact. The last time I watched this episode was with the family, and I remember saying "Shouldn't a warp core breach have destroyed the whole ship?" Next scene fades in...[B'Elanna]: "A Warp Core breach should have destroyed the ship." I laughed for about two minutes.
Reminds me of an episode of Lower Decks. Dunno if you're familiar but for the sake of anyone who's not: one of the main cast, Boimler, is trying to settle in to new quarters, but they put him in the room right next to one of the Bussard collectors. So his room is flooded with a piercing red light. My immediate response was, "Polarize the window, Boims." My friend, also watching, just chuckled and said "That's not gonna work." End of the episode, Boimler is rooming with another main cast, Rutherford, and they get that same room. Rutherford says "Wow, that's bright, let me just polarize the window" or something to that effect. My friend lost her shit and I laughed for about a minute straight.
Personally,my favorate is Sisko and overall DS9 series in depth and character development. The way I see it. Picard=dies from old age Janeway=dies as a sacrifice Sisko=becomes legend and is never heard from again
Fridge brilliance, if you think about it. How many times do you something completely inane in a dream, but you never realize how stupid it was until you wake up. It usually takes a real special kind of stupid to actually take you out of the dream. Thus, putting up a containment field to contain an explosion may make perfect sense even though they all should know that the explosion is too powerful for it, but standing in the explosion is enough to make her realize she's asleep.
@@theAverageJoe25 yup..same how i dreamed one time that i was in a tram and it derailed and continued on driving on the street without tram tracks... then i was like.. wait a f***ing minute, something is not right here.
1:39 "Either i've become impervious to antimatter explosions.... or were still dreaming" I believe this sums up every implausible thing ever seen on star trek. LOL
... because they've had to eject the core a couple times during the series without incident? Just because the system didn't work as intended on other ships, doesn't mean the same would apply to all ships.
For sake of an real answer I think she realized they hadn't suffered any physical damage that would explain why it wouldn't work. Just suddenly there's a breach for no reason and then the core won't eject for also no reason.
I'm going to face off against a rapidly failing reactor core on weak evidence that it won't kill me or any of you. And just hope I'm lucky. Yep Janeway is badass and nuts all in one. This is kind of like a Chuck Norris moment for her. "Warp core is about to blow, fixes the problem by pulling a Q and changing reality so they're back in a dream they need to wake from.
He couldn’t eject the warp core it was broken I think that’s what he was telling the bridge when the reactor coolant leaked,what they could have done while evacuating everyone was move the ship away from the planet just in case the saucer section was pushed toward it which obviously did happen,I’m also wondering why it was so easy for the Klingons to damage the enterprise that easily when in yesterday’s enterprise they destroyed a bird of prey in like 5 phaser blasts,generations was badly written should have made the Borg the enemy would have been an easier way to justify the D being destroyed and could have followed it up with a sequel ie first contact
@@Makeitso2023 in Generations, Lursa and Be'tor used Geordi's visor to see the Enterprise's exact shield frequency. With that info, they set their weapons to match it, thus every shot went right through the shields. And in Yesterday's Enterprise, those ships weren't Birds of Prey, they were K'Vort class battle cruisers, much bigger and far more powerful. That one ship was only destroyed because it's shields were weakened by the multiple torpedo hits.
Now I know how Tris knew simulations aren't real. Put her in a simulation of Voyager, she'll try causing a breach, the warp core explodes but she's still alive.
Well, B'Elanna did put a dampening field around main engineering. This would include the warp core. Thou, i'm not sure if such a field would be strong enough to contain an antimatter explosion.
The funny thing about dreams... normally it isn't until you wake up that you realize something was off. Yeah, kind of quoting Inception here but it really is true. Last night I dreamed about a place that I often dream about, almost an alternate version of my own life with people I know in different places and the layout of the world in a different configuration. Every time I dream about it, I remember more and more about the layout of the world. But no matter how familar I am with this world that doesn't really exist, when I'm there, I don't realize it's a dream... until I wake up.
Even though I am not waking up, when I dream I know it's a dream. Like I can remember in the dream thinking this is just a dream. I'm actually dreaming.
My kingdom....My kingdom to have seen janeway walk out of the door with singed frizzled hair, ash on her face, tattered charred suit, and a little piece of flaming rubble on her shoulder, and a little smoke cough followed by her line: "Cough...Either...Cough...I've become immune to warp core breaches... Cough... Or....Flicks off the burning rubble...."
They have warp core breaches every other Tuesday. "We have a Warp core breach in progress!" "I'll just push this button...And these two buttons, and...6 seconds later...."We're good carry on."
Hell, with as many warp core breaches as they've had on Star Trek, they've probably all built up an immunity to it. Let it blow up. The ship will be as good as new in the next episode. Same with all their clothing, food, fuel, supplies, and so on. When Voyager started with limited fuel and food, I thought it would be different. But, no, they quickly got over that.
Star Fleet ships are so broken. Gel packs infected. Sonic shower not working. Primary and secondary power conduits ruptured. Food replicators malfunctioning. Neelix whip up something good. Structural integrity fields failing. All hands abandon ship. I don't remember Klingon, Romulan or Vulcan ships having this much trouble.
No. When antimatter contacts matter, it releases gamma rays. If enough energy is involved, particles of matter will also form, beginning with the least massive and going up in mass as the energy of collision increases. These all fly away from the reaction.
This would be the last episode if it weren't for the containment field. Janeway could also survive the Enterprise-D crash by being trapped in the stardrive. That's how impervious works.
i have always wondered why they seemd so relaxed about a warp core breach. it could be the facht that they are dreaming but i always thought that a warp core breach would destroy the whole ship.
Well the jemmie bugship that rammed itself into the oddy hit the ship right above the deflector dish and penetrated the primary hull up to the area where the warp core is located. Now guess what the reason for complete destruction was - a warp core breach.
about all the people who say containment sheild dosent do anything, it might do SOMTHING also, in this episode (i just watched it on TV!) they were dreaming.
And another thing: Does anyone remember the old days of TNG whenever a Warp Core was breached it was basically: "Oh well. We're fucked"? I'm sure I saw in one episode an entire star system was destroyed from a warp core explosion.
If I was Captain Janeway before the warp core blew up I’ll be Lighting a cigarette and a bowl on the warp core waiting for it to explode then you can say I’m in pervious to antimatter explosion
I know the same composers worked on episodes from all the series, but it sounds like they reused the theme from DS9 sacrifice of angels in this episode 😀
it doesnt matter. he's still wrong. the intrepid is a light cruiser. the galaxy is a battleship.and as far as the odysssey goes, a ship 1/4 of the drive section, running full impulse kamikazed it's self into it.
sooooo on Voyager warp core breaches can be contained by a set of doors? didn't the star drive section violently explode in Generations and its energy force slam the saucer section into a planet??
Like they would have survived the breach just by retreating to the other side of a freaking door. I've NEVER seen one occur that didn't basically destroy the entire ship it was on.
