@@pavilionbugno. This is suppose to be Day of Honor (or at least according to the description). But the one where the warp core got stolen is Renaissance Man, the episode where the doctor was blackmailed into stealing it due to him & the Captain being captured by the species called The Overlooker and them threatening to kill the Captain if the Doctor didn’t do what was instructed.
I like how everyone on the bridge is surprise when B'lana tells then that they dumped the core. Werent they at least monitoring the situation? Even if they werent, wouldnt such a big event be noticed?
@@leonkernan I don't know if the computer announces it or not but it should have shown up on both Janeway's and Chikotay's consoles as well as the engineering console on the bridge.
"Can't order me I outrank you" No you don't. She is the chief engineer and forth in command just under Tuvok or the Doctor in a medical emergency. No fucking way the senior helmsman outranks her.
They're both Lieutenant Junior Grades throughout the events of Voyager, but Tom is just a little ahead of her in seniority because he's been one for longer than her by a few days. Technically outranks her.
My understanding of modern military rank structure is that time of promotion doesn't really matter as much as the area of responsibility. A LT that works in the mess, but technically has seniority by a week over the engineer, isn't going to be able to head down to the engine room and order the engineer to divert power to his mess.
This isn't the only time Tom says this to her. In another episode, she argues they have the same rank but then Tom claims that he has 'seniority' -- I'm not sure if he was just joking but apparently he does.
See Geordi that's how you eject a warp core WHEN IT'S ABOUT TO BREACH. The only time Geordi ejected a warp core successfully was WHEN IT WAS PERFECTLY FINE.
To be fair to Geordi, the time he ejected the core when it was fine was when they were countering a subspace weapon. An anti matter explosion of that magnitude was the only thing that could stop it. And it worked
@@seanwhitman8353 Yes I know why he ejected it on the Ent-E but still it was a perfectly fine core/fully functional core. How many freckin times did Geordi fail to eject a faulty core on the Ent-D. You will need a super computer to count that high.
@niceguy60 It's actually been counted. About ... 8-9 times across Next Gen. But still, you have better luck arming the self destruct sequence on that show than you do ejecting the warp core.
That was great cinematography! It would have been expensive to show the warp core being ejected from inside the ship, but the cut to outside the ship was very well done - and the audience is convinced the warp core has been ejected. It’s also cool that the Star Trek shows have reasonable limits to technology, so there are believable dangers. For example: all Trek fans understand that a warp core breach means the instant destruction of the ship. There have been a few deus ex machina exceptions, but not many. I also like how the computers in the Trek universe work reliably, intuitively, and fast. The computer understands the command to eject the warp core without a confirmation because it is aware of the emergency. I think children today will see AI like that in their lifetimes. Edit: A confirmation was given.
This is one of only two times that the main ship was able to eject the warpcore in an emergency in the entire franchise (barring expanded universe works). The other time was in Star Trek (2009). However, this is the ONLY time it worked in an emergency directly related to the warp core going ape shit. So, Star fleet can design ships that go between the stars in a matter of hours, but cannot design a spring or a big catapult that can reliable work. Or Holodecks that doesn't kill anyone that steps into them. Or manual door overrides that work when the power is out.
As indicated in ENT 'Divergence', the sudden loss of a warp field will smear whatever was inside it across several million kilometres. Since this didn't happen here to either the warp core or Voyager, we have to assume that there are automated systems in place that safely throttle down and dissipate the warp field in the event of a warp core ejection, using the remaining plasma in the conduits to sustain the warp field. By the time the warp core hit the warp field boundary, they were sublight.
Well yea but this is my fav outfit I love the silver look of it and it was different from the rest of her outfits after which were all fabric she had trouble breathing in this so they changed to the others but still would have loved on like this in there
Just saw some clip of Discovery with ejecting the core. It did this shot where it followed the core through ejection. And it's sliding out of the ejection tube just banding against the walls. I had to come watch this and see how controlled this ejection was and yeah, it slid out very smoothly cause you don't want an antimatter reactor banging against the walls and getting stuck on the way out!
Wow, an emergency core ejection that actually WORKED when needed?! Never saw that on a Galaxy class. The ejection system always failed when needed on those...
In the episode they find the warp core and pick it back up. Though thats after Tom and Belanna have their shuttle blown up and they nearly die in the cold vacuum of space. So yeah I’d agree that it’s the worst day of her life.
So do most Federation ships: in pieces and would either 1. Wait for a ship to tow you back to the nearest Starbase and assemble/install there, the ideal way. 2. Can be done in the field but would take way longer
At least they addressed the whole transwarp question early on. Otherwise, everyone would have been like "why don't you just use Seven's knowledge to get the shop home". Of course, it's still kind of a fair question, but at least they tried to speak to it.
@@seantaggart7382 The core is not fuel. The core is a reactor which provides power, in this case plasma. The fuel is deuterium and antideuterium. The warp core is the only power source on the ship capable of providing enough power for a warp field. Voyager is still able to travel on impulse using its fusion reactors.
@Spectual1 Very good points. But one thing about the Remodulating Shields. Take a closer look after they fire on the BoP, they get shot again. Note the shield impact (or rather pierced). The shields weren't knocked down, you can see it during each scene you can see D being shot at. A plausible answer can come from what you said though. The shields may not have been knocked out, but maybe their ability to remodulate them was disabled. In the end though, we can only speculate :)
It might have something to do with the fact that the core was going to breach, which would constitute an Emergency. In Emergency Situations, the Chief Engineer probably has authorisation to eject the core, while in normal situations, it requires a Command-level authorisation.
This is probably the only scene in the entire franchise that was able to, and is able every time I watch it, to bring tears into my eyes. I can feel the emotion welling up in me. It's like the ship's heart is cut out or something, I'm not really sure what it is. Am I the only one?
I definitely cringe when I see 2:28 its almost gore-like in nature seeing the guts of the ship be ejected out. I wouldn't say its eye-watering emotional but its an uncomfortable sight >.> I'd compare it to scenes in other episodes/the movies where you see members of the crew get sucked out through hull breaches.... it has something to do with seeing just how large the ship is in scale with something else kinda.
@fluidicmethod according to Memory Alpha, Voyager was only travelling at maximum impulse, which to the best of my knowledge isn't incredibly fast. You would expect, though, that by the 24th century starfleet would've developed more powerful sublight propulsion systems.
Most likely the computer disengaged the warp drive just before dumping the core. The field was in the process of collapsing and the ship was falling out of warp as the core was dumped. It's pretty much what happens every time a ship comes out of warp. Inertial dampers may have helped to hold the ship together as well.
Actually the Intrepid-Class carries a Spare Warp Core on Board :D I think its smaller but i guess gives enough energy to replicate materials for a new big one or to maintain lesser Warp speeds.
@@marrymekatsuya yes. That's how they do that. A spare core in pieces and either a Starbase or the engineering crew assembles and installs it. The former is the ideal way it's done
@@kargaroc386 pray it's within impulse range, another ship with a powerful enough warp and impulse drive to tow to the nearest Starbase, preferably one with a dry or spacedock. Multiple small ships ie: shuttles sharing the load and towing. Even Warp 1-2 is better than any sublight speed. If your ship has a spare core in pieces and dilithum to fuel it, all you need do is assemble, install, in business. Taking a page from Scotty's book and jury-rigging a warp core that can do at least Warp 2. Slow and can take months but better than years, decades or even centuries of sublight. Simply waiting works. Overdue long enough, Starfleet is bound to send someone looking for you a BOLO to the Klingons and other allies too. Bound to find something, even wreckage. In the event a spare core is in pieces and no Starbase, the engineering crew with Work Bees, Shuttles, Runabouts or combination of any/all of the above and zero G exo-atmospherical suits in three shifts and a week and a half, it can be done by the engineering crew. Special crewmembers like Janeway herself, Seven and Tuvok for Voyager, O'Brien, Rom, Nog, Jadzia Dax for DS9. Geordi, Data, the shut up's aside, Wesley(work would go a lot faster with him than without him) and maybe Scotty himself as he did survive to TNG and proved he still had it and possibly Barclay (his Voyager contributions aside) would help too. TOS, definitely need Scotty, goes without saying. Scotty with Spock's help, definitely will get it done
People get the wrong idea about B'Elanna. She really is a sweetheart and vulnerable because she really wants to do a good job and does care a lot, that's why she is hard on people sometimes including very hard on herself. She is a little tough but underneath that is just a woman who struggles to be her best self like everyone else.
let's see Warp 2 is 10x lightspeed, so they were at warp still for 4-5 seconds, meaning they're 12 million kilometers away. At impulse they can get the to the core even at 1/4 impulse in 10 minutes
Minimal redundancy in a long range exploration vessel. Excellent design Starfleet Corps of Engineers. Always blew my mind how an entire ship's propulsion is centralized into one core vs several smaller ones.
Voyager has a smaller backup core behind the main deflector. But yea, redundancy in hindsight but also, noone expected a ship to go to the delta quadrant so soon.
In Star Trek lore having multiple active Warp Cores feeding into one Warp Drive system poses too much of a technological problem, because all of the cores need to be operating at the same plasma frequency. It's relatively easy for a computer to adjust and fine tune a single Dilithium matrix cradle to produce a constant warp plasma frequency. Adding a second core or more increases the number of adjustments across all the cores and introduces the potential for destructive harmonics to develop in a system that is very sensitive to them. The only ship I'm aware of that has more than one active core is the Prometheus, a ship that was designed to be split in to three sections; each capable of sustained warp flight. Outside of that all "Deep Space" vessels built by Star Fleet have a "spare" Warp Core that is in pieces. It would take a bit of time but a ship that has lost it's main core, and survived, can with some difficulty replace it.
@RyJ Btw did you notice that the same energy ribbon was said to move at the speed of light - but when the Enterprise B approached it, and when it was approaching the planet it was traveling MUCH MUCH slower?
Well, considering that they are traveling at warp speeds, I would have thought that the sudden loss of the core and the equally sudden drop from warp would tear Voyager apart.
The Soccer section of the Galaxy has "Warp sustainers" Which enable the Ship to ride the Subspace bubble until its energy is gone. Maybe Ships have a similar thing installed to manage to ride away from the detonation point at declining warp speeds.
no, because once outside the warp field it's dragged back to normal speeds by gravity. the core it self doesn't produce the warpfield its the same thing we see when the warp field collapeses.
I don't know why this was such a disaster for them. Voyager actually has TWO warpcores. They posses a secondary replacement located behind the main deflector. It isn't usually used, but it's there and ready to be installed.
I like how the Warp Core could be used as a weapon like a mine as a last resort such as you have exhausted all of your Photons and Phaser Banks and that is your only option left from a Pursuing deadly enemy. The explosion of a warp core is powerful probably near Cold Fusion power levels or possibly far beyond Cold Fusion i'm not a scientist but i suspect the Warp Core could take out a few ships in pursuit if timed properly. Like i said Last Resort all else fails.
The Warp Core is not designed to be used as a weapon. The only time a warp core would be detonated is as part of a self destruct sequence. And as far as energy levels go, comparing the energy release of fusion vs a matter-antimatter reaction is like comparing a fire cracker to an atomic blast. The difference is best described using a logarithmic scale. A fusion device wipes a city off the map. About 10 grams of antimatter annihilating with matter is enough to wipe a country off the map. We currently can make only a tenth of a gram.
@@thomasschulz2167 Don't you remember the Insurrection movie? A warp core was detonated to seal some dangerous rift caused by an enemy's banned weapon.
@@Foebane72 You are right I did forget about them ejecting the core to close a subspace rift that had been generated by the Son'a Isolytic burst weapon. But, they didn't use the core as a weapon. The subspace rift was attracted to the Warp Drive. The biggest piece they could immediately get rid of, with anywhere near the energy to collapse the rift, was the core. When the two met the Core's containment failed and it breached. The resulting energy release collapsing the rift. If I recall correctly there's a line La Forge says to the bridge along the line of I hope they don't do that again because we're fresh out of cores.
In Chernobyl.. core dumped itself :D ... but yeah..it seems to me too that maybe that was a bit of an inspiration for the writters of the episode. An experiment with power source... there is a chain reaction that prevents any of safeguards to stop the reaction...kabum..
When the warp core was ejected the artificial bubble of space time around the ship should have collapsed. Not being a physicist I cant say whether or not they would simply coast at high velocity but I feel like there would be more dire consequences.
The actress that's playing the Chiefs engineer half-klingon half human she was on one episode of the TV series Point man and one episode of Seven Days TV series during the TV series Star Trek Voyager she had to ask to producers if she and her husband can have a baby they had to hide her pregnancy that's why you see her for a few months wearing a jacket uniform over her uniform it was a jacket uniform to hide her pregnancy that's why they always filmed at certain angles to hide Her pregnancy and then when she gave birth they wrote around her you would see some scenes without her being in a episode scene there is a few episodes where you Did NOT see her after she gave birth to her child
So the Warp Core... is the actual _core_ of the ship? Color me stupid... never realized that was why it was called the warp _core!_ Good finally seeing it as a whole though... Thanks for posting!
We have dumped the warp core. How far are we from the core? It took a few seconds to drop out of warp so 2 light years. How long will it take to reach the core via impulse? 8 Years.
