Star Trek VS Babylon 5 (W.I.P)(Edited)

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@alexdavis-mann8513 2 года назад

yer im a huge B5 fan but the tech difference would be insurmountable. shadows and vorlons might give them some trouble though.

@craigstalmer2825 2 года назад

I agree

@verdebusterAP 2 года назад

@@craigstalmer2825 Not really In Stargate universe, the Wraith countered Asgard beaming by jamming In Trek, it has been shown that there are ways to jam transporters without shields So yes initially B5 would have problems but they can learn to counter

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@@verdebusterAP This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.

@TheTimelord62 Год назад

I think B5 with its white star fleet would take out alot of ST ships. The white stars must be the one of the best ships in both universe's. It just looks the part.

@thayes42 11 месяцев назад

Add a couple of Mimbari heavy cruisers and a Vorlon or two and this would be a short fight.

@alwindigital5796 2 года назад

1. ST's photon and quantum torpedoes have anti-matter warheads 2. ST has transporter technology: they can simply bean warheads aboard enemy ships, if not boarding parties and other 3. Energy shields and impulse drives 4. Phaser banks that can quickly target enemy ships at almost 360 degree angles (depending on coverage) 5. Warp capability without needing to open a hyperspace gate

@BrianKatakowski 2 года назад

Agreed, B5 ships wouldn't stand a chance against a starfleet vessel. A grain of sand would hit like rail gun on steroids while a starship was traveling at warp speeds, but does nothing to their navigational shields. The only thing that a B5 jump drive equipped ship could do is hope to damage or cripple a starfleet vessel with the "bonehead maneuver" (opening a second jump point in a active jump gate and run, most likely not fast enough hence bonehead).

@pfksr64 2 года назад

OK, then Lita will wipe all their minds and leave them screaming in a fetal position.

@BrianKatakowski 2 года назад

@@pfksr64 I will see Lita Alexander and raise you Guinan. In the words of John Sheridan "Your not the only one thats been touched by the Vorlons!" Or in Guinan's case the nexus. Also Guinan is a "bit" more handy with a phaser than John is with a PPG.

@alwindigital5796 2 года назад

@@pfksr64 ST universe also has telepaths. Perhaps not as strong as telepaths are portrayed in BS5 universe, but probably strong enough to block BS5 telepaths. And Data is an android, immune to telepaths.

@thomas.parnell7365 2 года назад

@@BrianKatakowski that be a good scene seeing guinan repelling border's with her rifle in 10 forward shouting insult s .at them

@boloblade2 2 года назад

Loved how the Excalibur was smart enough to cripple Voyager first.

@burstcity3832 Год назад

Yet it wasn't derstroyed for some reason..oh thats right Star trek is awesome woooo

@anonymouskaos7175 2 года назад

What killed me throughout the entire video was the fact that the sovereign class the most advanced starship in Starfleet got destroyed but the original Connie refit was still going like wait what I'm so confused right now

@bscar 2 года назад

"Info, get me tactical information. Dwarf, fire twinklers and light balls!" - Captain Pirk

@mightylubu 3 месяца назад

Bro had to give the federation ships a handicap, if he didnt they'd solo'd no diff

@AndersonNeo12 2 года назад

A lot of comments about the shields, in case someone is wondering: "Shields won`t be installed until Tuesday!" That´s why i just gonna lean back and enjoy this Science Fiction crossover epicness. ps.: That Earthcruiser is called "Backgammon" :D 6:08

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This YT video was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babel 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody... or at least ... was that the name? I quite forgot after reading the comments). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.

@Cain-x 3 года назад

It is INSANE that the animations and FX were made in 2005 - kudos to that team.

@user-fg7fy1mn4y Год назад

It would be fairer if 50 Minbari "Sharlin" appeared at the end of the battle😆

@Ellis_Hugh Год назад

Starfleet firepower would likely decimate anything that the humans of B5 could come up with, especially without shields (why did the Federation ships lose shields at the beginning of this?). The Defiant vs. a White Star would be interesting though, and you can't have B5 properly represented without the Mimbari showing up. Dalen appearing with a Mimbari fleet and sending them on their way would have been a fantastic way to end this showdown.

@SonicSlicer Год назад

my guess is that the Jump Gate overloaded the Shield Emitters, also, would the Minbari destroy ships so close to B5 especially when we have a fair idea of what warp core breaches do, and they would too upon the Galaxy class ship exploding...man..Keogh just can't catch a break.

@TheOtherGuys2 Год назад

Two points I'd say to the question of why the Federation ships don't have shields. I remember fondly back in the day, debating Star Trek vs everything else, and I went pretty deep into it. Federation ships seem to frequently lose their shields as soon as a big battle starts. See DS9: Sacrifice of Angels, or the battles of Wolf 359 and Sector 001. Between the three battles, I only saw two Federation ships take shield hits, one being the Enterprise E. I suspect in large, pitched battles, most ships redirect shield power to weapons, or more likely my second thought: Federation shield tech operates by using a phase modulation field, which blocks the wave patterns of things like lasers, phasers and photonic weapons, unless the weapon frequency matches. However, that really only works on light-based weapons. Again, lasers, phasers (photon-microwave lasers), and photon torpedoes. They are notably worse, if even capable of it at all, at blocking plasma based weapons. Disruptors in Star Trek are, as I understand it, plasma particle weapons that are carried by laser/phaser beams. Babylon 5 ships appear to use plasma based weapons, without laser carriers. Side note: Star Wars weapons, despite being called 'lasers', behave in such a way as to indicate that they're not lasers, but also plasma weapons. Edit: I see there's some dialogue included talking about the shield loss. I dunno what caused that in the original video, or if the dialogue was added to explain it. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in the dialogue, as it's ridiculously inconsistent.

@lexthelegend1455 Год назад

@@TheOtherGuys2 I get that but the 3 examples you used aren't the best Sacrifice of Angels, the Dominion already knew how to punch through federation shielding. If the defiant mentioned shields in dialogue then I can only assume either slip-up for budget For Wolf 359, using Picard's knowledge, the Borg were able to bypass Federation shields entirely and one tap ships at will. At first contact, those ships were fighting for several days straight, we can only presume each of those starfleet vessels were already heavily battle damaged, I.E. the Defiant, as she was fighting at almost every line the Borg had approached.

@TheOtherGuys2 Год назад

@@lexthelegend1455 At Wolf 359, Picard wouldn't have known each individual ship's shield frequency. I think in that case the Borg just overpowered the Federation ships. But even so, their shields ostensibly should have been there to be overpowered. Anyway, those are the only big fleet battles in Star Trek I can think of. Do you have other examples? (I haven't actually seen most of DS9, to be fair.)

@johnd.1618 Год назад

@@TheOtherGuys2 I think the reason for not giving shields to Federation ships is obvious. It would have been a boring bloodbath if Federation ships where using their shields. Without shields is a more balanced battle. And no one, NO ONE will choose to lower shields in the middle of a battle. Also the idea of plasma weapons bypassing shields comes with a logical error. if shields where incapable of stopping plasma weapons, then everyone in the Star Trek Universe would be switching to plasma weapons or at least putting a few of those next to their standard torpedoes and phasers. Then in the battle, first destroy enemy shield generators with a plasma beam, then finish enemy ship with all weapons available.

@randybaumery5090 Год назад

Star trek next generation ships would wreak havoc on the Earthforce but would get slammed by the older races technology in Babylon 5.

@DonnieTNJ 2 года назад

this should have gone like this: "Captain!...They are now locking lasers on us.......lasers? Yes sir......Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields don't they know that?".....Regulations do call for a yellow alert....hmmm A very old regulation.....Well make it so number one...and reduce speed. Drop main shields as well.... May I ask why sir?....In case we decide to surrender to them Number One....*worf growl*"

@etorres4u 2 года назад

The nerd in me calls BS. Starfleet ships had shields, phasers, quantum torpedos and in many cases ablative armor. The B5 ships had inferior weapons and no shielding. Notice how no star fleet ships seemed to have any shielding? They had to nerf them in order to make it an even fight. Star fleet would have absolutely annihilated the B5 ships with barely a scratch.

@marcdonnellan8730 2 года назад

All starfleet ships lost shields after going through the worm hole. Probably to level playing field.

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@greggg4011 2 года назад

Is strong original with the winner. As shown in most of these videos Babylon 5 ships are able to intercept coming torpedo's .

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@@greggg4011 Except at FTL speeds, obviously XD

@greggg4011 2 года назад

You know I'm glad you said that because I never paid attention to scanner ranges...what is their scanner range?

@Jred091 3 месяца назад

What we expected the Dominion war would be.

@Jonno92100 3 года назад

Ingenious use of Star Trek: Legacy audio and effects. I can definitely appreciate the time and effort that went into re-dubbing this animation.

@thomasanderson3459 Год назад

Redesigned, refitted for...... ..soo could still look pretty for you??,

@BBFPV 2 года назад

Lasers? They not even penetrate our nav. shield...

@dmacbass 2 года назад

What lasers? Ain't no frigging lasers here.

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@Theman122082 2 года назад

Judging by a lot of these comments, many of you have never seen star wreck in the pirkinning. It was a fanfilm made by a couple guys in Finland way back in 2005. The original version was free.. when they decided to release a dvd of it.. and make actual money, they had to redo all of the special effects with new ships/stations. So pretty much what you are seeing is now 15-16year old effects.. pretty good for back then actually.

@masere Год назад

Red Five standing by. Red October standing by. Red Buttons standing by.

@JoshuaFare 3 месяца назад

Red Fox standing by

@ernstboyd8745 2 года назад

those rotating sections of the earth force ship would make turning a bear. - like gyroscopes

@ultramagnus8240 2 года назад

You mean to tell me that Geordi laforge, B'Elanna Torres & the space wizard himself Miles O'Brien wasn't able to get those shields back online!?! BS!

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.

@stanleydavidson6543 2 года назад

Shields don't work in Babylon 5 universe

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@@stanleydavidson6543 are you referrying to what the parody said or the real deal? Because in the real Babylon 5 universe we see Vorlon Dreadnoughts and the Thirdspace aliens have shield technology, bubble style like the federation.

@fitzroymarcano4565 2 года назад

I was thinking the exact same thing

@thomasmardock2119 2 года назад

How is this better than anything we’ve seen on the show? Well done!

@mackgiver875 2 года назад

4:30 Jesus that many photon torpedoes would have blown up the entire 1st and 2nd season of Babylon 5 lol.

@porpus99 2 года назад

The closest comparison from Star Trek I can think of offhand is when the Romulans and Cardassians attacked the 'Founders Homeworld'. 30 percent of the planetary crust was destroyed in the opening volley. Hell of a lot of damage. Realistically I think Earth Force, even with the help of the Rangers, are pretty much screwed.

@JoeL-yq1iv 2 года назад

Except Earth Alliance ships are armed with point defense that can shoot down incoming energy bursts. They are specifically the only B5 star nation to have such weaponry. Torpedos should be mostly useless except for the odd lucky hit. Phasers, on the other hand, should cut through EA vessels like crazy.

@Annihilator2point0 2 года назад

Damn Star Fleet got one hell of a handicap losing shield from the get go.

@dmacbass 2 года назад

And they still stepped up pretty well.

@brianrussell463 22 дня назад

First the artistry of the CG and the use of the cast member's voices was cool. However, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of both franchises. First, Starfleet's phasers, photon and quantum torpedoes are either computer guided or target locked on the target that they want to hit. Meaning the phasers and torpedoes fired by any Starfleet (or any major power in the Star Trek franchise like The Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion and even most loess advanced species have computer targeting like the Hirogen and the Kazon) would very rarely miss the target. However, the most important difference between the two franchises is the transporter technologies that all of major powers in Star Trek has transporter capabilities. This would change the game. If a battle were going to break out and Starfleet ship could beam weapons and crew onto or off of any of the B5s "younger races" like Earth Alliance, The Narn the Centari and even The Minbari as none of them have any kind of shielding other then the physical hull of the ship and Babylon 5 (the station) also doesn’t have shielding. Even if the two fleets couldn’t communicate neither of them would fire unjustifiably, especially Starfleet but having made that mistake before The Earth Alliance wouldn’t attack unprovoked. The Interstellar Alliance (fledgling or nor) wouldn’t either more would The Independent Babylon 5 (just covering my bases as the uniforms on Babylon 5 are the ones Delenn/The Minbari gave The Babylon 5 crew when they declared independence and there were both White Star vessels and Earth Alliance ships are were present in the battle so nailing down the time in B5 history however it is possibly after season 4 but more likely after season 5. Oh and the Star Trek timeline is impossible to figure out, you have the Enterprise E with Voyager and Sisko command ping the Defiant, so it hast to take place after Voyager returned from the Delta Quadrant but Sisko was in the Celestial Temple, I mean the Wormhole, at that point and with a refit Constitution class ship there too those would have been retired in the 2360s but Sisko entered the wormhole in 2375. And Voyager returned to Earth in 2378. The most likely thing that would happen is, with no ability to communicate because of different technologies, no one would fire at anyone else and since both are from the planet Earth they would speak English so any Starfleet officer, likely Picard or Captain or Admiral Janeway? would beam aboard any Earth Alliance Vessel and speak to any Earth Alliance vessel’s Commanding officer and solve any problems before the shooting starts. The only species that would out right attack A Starfleet ship would be The Shadow, and that might be a fascinating fight. The Vorlons wouldn’t care but they would likely be a Starfleet ships biggest threat but the Vorlons would know that a Starfleet ship wouldn’t attack and just go on about its business.

@ServantOfOdin Год назад

Ahhh yes, I forgot about this gem.... Guys, calm down. It's from a Finnish fanmovie made several years ago called Star Wreck: In the Pirkining. It's about an overly ambitious but equally often overstepped captain Pirk who somehow gets trapped in Starfleets past and decides to reshape the Federation into what he considers to be a more efficient government: a brutally (inefficient and incompetent) authoritarian dictatorship with him as the big boss. By random accident, the rustbucket of the fleet (their term for the Constitution-class, under the command of a Russian by the name of Fukov) runs across an alien vessel, and as per orders from Emperor Pirk, shoot it down. The fleet moves out and in the other universe runs into Babel 13 under the command of Captain Cherrypie, the overly dramatic dreamer who likes to hear himself talk, but is otherwise the very opposite of Pirk. Pirk and Cherrypie hate each other and decide to blow each other up, which the Psy-Corps honcho Festerbester (who commands the Excalibur-class Excavator) is not very keen happy with. The rest can be seen here and I will not spoil where Pirk and his crew (along with their Data version called Info and the primitively aggressive officer Dwarf) end up at the end.

@dr.garretsshow 5 месяцев назад

I remember seeing this animation several years ago. on one hand its very well made, on the other the Federation is several times more advanced than the B5 earth aliance.

@bradphippsnz 2 года назад

The original is such a great movie. The dialogue is hilarious.

@ericbrammer2245 2 года назад

Total "BERMAN" Tactical Stoopidness. Just as Effective as the Florida Gov. on Covid! JUST WARP AWAY, Circle, then talk/or/Kill. Idiots at War, need killing. Or Covid without masks..

@ISAF_Ace 2 года назад

incredible job, I absolutely love watching the two best sci-fi franchises duke it out

@ratedr8490 2 года назад

Two best? Farscape? Stargate? Old dr who? Old star wars? Battlestar Galactica? Not knocking star trek or Babylon 5 they are great Sci fi... but the best is definitely in the eye of the beholder 😉.

@user-vg7mu6yn5o 27 дней назад

lol - "USS backgammon"

@draigygoch 2 года назад

Highly convenient starfleet shields stopped working...hmmm

@jrjefferson01 2 года назад

why are they fighting in the first place? not really esablished

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.

@chriscjongeneelen2960 2 года назад

This apparently nods to an second variant of the Terran empire ( originally in the 1966 original series under the episode “mirror mirror “ ) but this variant Terran empire , which was created by the idea of the Soviets had won the Cold War and ended up creating their own variant of the federation, that used trans warp to attack the Babylon 5 station ( where the ships are dark alternate universe versions of iconic ships up to enterprise E , starship status wise ) despite the fact this attack failed it throws an monkey wrench into new series canon information, to find out there’s an second Terran empire that never Fell to the Klingon/ cardassian alliance as was canon referenced in The DS9 series but this one is one that wasn’t ever defeated in that alternate dark mirror universe…

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). But yeah, it seems as if it did a nod to asecond variant of the Terran Empire - only far less murderous towards superiors.

@robertbruce7497 2 года назад

---- They also made "Iron Sky" movie about ww2 survivors of 3rd Reich hiding in a moonbase on the dark side of the moon(?). ----

@Andrewcranky 2 года назад

Jon Luc Picard would never fire first without lagitimit cause and provocation. He would seek a diplimatic resalution first

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.

@StarFleet_Tech1701 Год назад

This was great! I am definitely a Star Trek fan and I loved B5 also. Each show has technical prowess above and beyond the other. I had always thought that StarFleet's benefits were its shields and warp drive. B5's benefits were its Minbari/Vorlon technology combined. To see them fight against each other made for a different storytelling experience.

@Icantfindtheanykey 2 года назад

This was excellent. Not perfect. Far from but still much better than most of what I find on TV these days. Great work and hope you make more soon.

@kfireven 2 года назад

The battle scenes are actully pretty good here

@darlenedowie3707 Год назад

The Picard I knew would not have fired on the Babylon 5 fighter ship but brought it on broad the Enterprise.

@willadeefriesland5107 Год назад

When an entire fleet loses shields, the vessels with ablative armor should take point. Flank the enemy with the larger ships and punch holes in enemy grouping with the smaller ones... Rip them a new one, the Straczynski shot first...

@spadesofpaintstudios1719 2 года назад

Personally I enjoyed seeing a constitution with a sovereign class ship on screen with their respective roles. The over all battle was very Intense and brutal.

@djspbb 3 месяца назад

I have a question, why did they decide they were enemies? All these my favorite universe is better than that universe. It's like Marvel and DC, there is no reason for them to fight, but fanboys demand blood.

@briankriens5645 Год назад

I love that this video looks remastered from what I saw originally over a decade ago. THank you.

@Futuretense101 2 года назад

I didn't think this battle could get any better. Thanks for proving me wrong!

@dracopendragon6829 2 года назад

Did anyone else notice the ships names didn't correspond to the audio?

@kaneko.ayano.20X 2 года назад

Because this is originally a Finnish parody where Picard is portrayed as an incompetent emperor.

@Kitsudragon Год назад

It says something that they couldn't fight "fairly" until the shields were retconned out of the combat. Not to mention the Russian Federation, which basically behaved just like the Russians do today. They also died like the Russians do today, so I suppose they get points for accuracy...

@kineticdeath 10 месяцев назад

the flagship would have self destructed due to some ensign smoking in the torpedo tubes

@jackjames7113 2 года назад

Should have called in the Rangers, but truth be told the minbari were suppose to be there because they were the reason for the station to be created in the first place

@_BLACKSTAR_ Год назад

"Red 5 standing by, Red 6 standing by, Red October standing by, Simply Red standing by"

@kaneko.ayano.20X 2 года назад

Lmao! The Excalibur is called Excavator.

@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 года назад

Man, I love the sound effects that you edited for the Babylon 5 weapons, especially with the Omega-class at 8:16 and the Victory-class here at 9:39 Can I get the RU-vid link for the sounds?

@lexthelegend1455 2 года назад

Unfortunately, I lost the file for the victory, but I have the omega beam here that or do you mean if you want all weapon sfx? drive.google.com/file/d/1VF0-0xTKPojsXyQDKAkG8t_pD3H1fZ6o/view?usp=sharing

@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 года назад

@@lexthelegend1455 I guess I need all.

@lexthelegend1455 2 года назад

@@YunoGasaiMC2012 that will take some time But it will be done

@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 года назад

@@lexthelegend1455 Ok, nevermind, I found some Babylon 5 and Star Trek sounds by my own search and made my own Babylon 5 vs Star Trek memes. Although I really need help with something; I'm planning on making a meme where a certain popular cringe Minecraft YoutTuber gets bombarded by a Minecraft version of the USS Enterprise-E. All I need is just the sound of 1. Sisko saying "threat neutralized" at 6:46 2. The guy saying "we've achieved our objective" at 6:58 3. And Janeway saying "goodwork, our mission objective has been achieved" at 15:48

@adamwright9741 Год назад

This is an EXCELLENT evolution of the years ago awesome fan film!!! Thanks for putting this out with Star Trek characters's voices in there!

@PabloNiklas Год назад

The Great Machine of Epsilon III could have oblirated the entire Starfleet.

@ErnestoBrausewind 2 года назад

Cut scene: "This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari - Babylon 5 is under our protection.... .... If you value your life, be somewhere else."

@ErnestoBrausewind 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kv3t86imsDI.html

@stuartgrier5605 9 месяцев назад

B5 all the way. ST is how people want the future to be like, B5 is probably more accurate.

@josephfilm73 2 года назад

As I remember correctly, that big long cruiser was a result of Vorlon technology. That ship alone would have done far more damage to the little tiny ships. I tend to think ST had random firepower based on the situation. Sometimes they could wipe out an entire planet. Other times they couldn't destroy a Ferengi vessel. It varied by the story writer. Since JMS was the person who did B5, it was much less random. But the big thing is that the ST ships could maneuver without regard to physics (they turn like airplanes). This fact alone would make them hard to hit. Very few of them would be taken out. Because shields, warp drive, and their propulsion system is based in fantasy than real known physics, ST always wins any battle. They could have a few ships warp in, launch a few quantum torpedos, then get out, and keep this up. You can never do a space battle scene with any meaning when one side that tries to conform to the known laws of physics vs one that does not. The ships from the Expanse would be wiped out even quicker.

@tiborinna 2 года назад

Well, if you consider, that Vorlons didnt even have transporter technology, and energy shields, not mentioning other far superior technologies from star trek, i need to disagree with you. Simply said, if we discount, that the Vorlons were energy based life forms, in technological level they were actually behind the Federation and that includes bio technology, which supposed to be the Tech of the Vorlons. These two tech worlds can not be compared. What would Q or the Borg do to the B5 uni then?

@burstcity3832 Год назад

@@tiborinna Startrek requires physics to dissapear, for you to believe crap.

@tiborinna Год назад

@@burstcity3832 your right, its all silly crap, but considering, that ST has artificial gravity, and mimbari ships too, both are breaking the laws of physics somehow.

@darkage5 Год назад

This video is an edit of Star Wreck the Pirkening. Doesn't anyone read the comments??? Especially the one pinned by the author? The original this was taken from was made before RU-vid was even around.

@timothymallon Год назад

I love both universes, but the White Stars would destroy Starfleet, no questions asked. Especially with Ivonova at the helm....God sent her!

@nathanielhellerstein5871 Год назад

A Minbari Sharlin ship would make short work of the Starfleet fleet, who wouldn't even get a target lock. And a Vorlon ship? Forget it. And a Shadow battlecrab? Forget it!

@jamesroberts8894 Год назад

Disagree. Federation technology far outstrips anything in B5. Proof of that was evidenced the moment they arbitrarily stripped every ST ship of its deflector screens. Without that gimme, it's a one sided blowout in favor of ST.

@Baby_Valentine 10 месяцев назад

Babylon 5 is using effectively gunpowder weapons for point defense and lasers as heavy weapons. There is a TNG episode that specifically mentions that lasers cant penetrate the navigation shields. As much as i like B5,they stand no chance vs the Federation, probably no chance vs a single Federation ship.

@David-jt9nt 10 месяцев назад

thats why right near the begining they made a big deal of their sheilds not working after the trip though

@Leondrius 9 месяцев назад

Those are particle beams, not lasers.

@shadowsoldier2173 6 месяцев назад

Not a lot of the weapons in the start in B5 are particle weapons and if anybody remembers when the orbital defense grid was turned against Earth those guns are the same guns that are on the Omega class destroyers

@TheGeekyDudeFromWI 2 года назад

The McDonalds in the Zocolo was a nice touch.

@florianmaschke269 11 месяцев назад

Well... This was somewhat fun to watch. It's a little off because the tech is different. B5 is a little more "down to earth" and Star Trek always... well it's Star Trek. With energy shields and energy based weapons a fleet of Starfleet vessels should have no problems creaming this combined fleet of Omega's, White Stars and Starfuries. I don't count the Excalibur to B5 because I hate that ugly thing. B5 weapons are based on laser and plasma weapons and fusion warheads. This should prove very ineffective against modern shields and the strong hull design of cruiserlike ships like the Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior or Ambassador-Classes. It's really hard to compare these two francises against each other because the tech is so different. The fact that the jump gate or the singularity disables the shields in order to make this "battle" fun is a litte weird. This situation is unfair and not to mention unrealistic. Since when is Captain Picard a ruthless warmonger? Ok ok.. it Mirror Universe.. still I have a time imagine Captain Picard as a bad guy. But... I pay good money to see Janeway suffer.. just a little. A better comparison would be BSG against The Expense. Both using kinetic weapons and rockets, thick armour plating and more realistic physics if there is such a thing in Science Fiction... A fight between a battlestar and MCRN Battleship would be interesting. A little critique on the side...next time please use the full array of weapons for the B5 side. The Omega destroyer are extremely well armed with guns, cannons, mines and rockets. Something we never saw in the series because of the small budget. I'd love to see a big barrage of rocket broadsides. And B5 was upgraded with a pretty neat weapons platform in 2259 for better protection against capital ships. You used only the secondary defence grid here. Ok... enough of it. That was my two cents on that subject. Thanks for this video.

@leeroberts1192 10 месяцев назад

For the ships from B5, their main weapons are near enough aimed straight ahead at all times where as for star Trek ships, each weapon has arcs, (left and right & up and down) that it can fire in. If the Borg had battled the B5 ships, the B5 ships would have all been assimilated very quickly after the start of a battle

@nicholasklangos9704 2 года назад

Some lovely destruction all around! Nice piece of work!

@Thirdbase9 5 месяцев назад

A single Runabout would likely defeat the entire Babylon 5 universe. B5 human ships work with physics, they can't make the sorts of turns and stops and starts a Federation ship can. B5 weapons are also a joke compared to Federation weapons, using lasers and projectiles. Arbitrarily removing all shielding from Federation ships means there is no fight, without the Navigation Shields Federation ships can't travel, and they will stop lasers.

@Armadacon 10 месяцев назад

Star Wreck is a great film. Far more of a fun film than Iron Sky.

@douglasroberts8301 9 месяцев назад

Why would Shields on all ships fail ?? It's the same universe same laws of physics

@ViveLaChocolatine 9 месяцев назад

yeah whit shield b5 they lose so badly

@apuokasdrevenassilentdevil6873 4 месяца назад

another Unicerse, another physics laws.

@calumscott8737 Год назад

This is fun, love the efforts involved.

@lavern007 11 месяцев назад

WTF? Why would a starship fire on a fighter, a lone fighter that had tech? Anything after that is not Star Fleet.

@TheOtherGuys2 Год назад

1:44 ...USS Thunderchild? Not one I'd want to mess with, that one. :D For those not in the know, HMS Thunderchild was a Royal Navy cruiser (described as a torpedo rammer, but based on evidence incorrectly so.) who, during the Martian invasion of 1898, single-handedly engaged and destroyed no less than three of the Martian tripods before being overwhelmed.

@Hammern28 2 года назад

Look, this was a film made for fun, for the heck of it. Two different universes, just tossed into one, and going at it. Starting technical debates on who would win, this and that and so on, is just silly. Take it for what it is, simple fun.

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

The video is based from a comedy/parody movie called Star Wreck in the Pirkining everything is explained there. All the "Starfleet" ships you see are actually 21st century shallow copies taken from the memories of a wannabe Data and constructe with Russian machinery. And the Babylon 5 parody timeline (in the movie) is wrecked because we can see a Vorlon and the Excalibur within days. So yeah just enjoy the fun (albeit the full movie explained a lot more, it's like the Harry Potter books, the movies condensing the action makes holes appear which weren't in the book).

@firexl007 2 года назад

That was epic Star Wreck 🤣😂

@tocold4you 2 года назад

Such an awesome video ! Good job

@abelgarcia5432 9 месяцев назад

I enjoy both franchises but if you want me to pick one, then B5. The worst B5 episode is better than the best Trek episode in both writing, acting paying homage to the Laws of Physics. DS9 is probably the best trek series.

@Detson404 Год назад

This is just Star Wreck with new voiceovers spliced in. Go watch up the original, people.

@policepatrol3230 5 месяцев назад

If they put Voyager's Transphasic Torpedo's, Defiant's Phaser Cannons and Enterprise's Quantum's, the battle would be over before it even started

@Ama-hi5kn 5 месяцев назад

Nanoprobes and other Borg tech is the solution to all problems.

@alinmeleandra3175 5 месяцев назад

@@Ama-hi5kn You need to see B5 to understand why is not so clear-cut... I've seen both, I think EA you shit on Federation for the main reason that EA is actually developed as a fighting force not an exploration force.

@TheEventHorizon909 4 месяца назад

TBF we do see the Defiants phaser cannons and the Transphasic torpedos could just mean this is a pre-badlands incident voyager. Quantums would absolutely have changed the matchup

@BigKnGa 3 месяца назад

@TheEventHorizon909 you'd actually have to watch the original video from where this was taken. Guy time travels and by some miracle ends up during earth's WW1 or 2 and has I think a connie. Anyway, he ends up conquering earth as a dictator and begins building all the ships from the federation 23rd and 24th century. He takes his fleet through a fissure and ends up in the Babylon 5 universe and the fight happens. By the end of it all no one survives. Look up Star Wrek and you should see it subtitled

@verdebusterAP 28 дней назад

You do realize that the Gaim give B5 high yield tactical nukes in range of 500-600 megatons 10 more powerful than Photon and least 5 times that of quantum Also the EA most powerful ship, the Warlock is not present in the battle The only thing that federation has that is massive advantage but they refuse to use is the Phasing cloak Now it should be noted that after the Earth-Minbari war, the EA overzealous acquired various alien technology as means to the fight the Minbari Unfortunately for Star fleet, that included a number of Shadow tech The EA was able to apply and create shadow tech to a degree. They created a Shadow hybrid that was able to destroy an omega class destroyer with ease As seen with the war against the Clark, the EA fielded Advanced Omegas with Shadow bio armor and hybrid weapons Ivanova had 17 Whitestars vs 6 Advange Omegas and the battle ended with just 2 Whitestars surviving While Section 31 was the darker side of the federation. The EA was literally dark all round and thats ultimately they would win against the federation

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 года назад

This 'episode should be subtitled: *_"EVERYBODY_** HAS A **_SH*TTY DAY"_* 😊😊😊😊

@HacksignKT 2 года назад

hehe yup

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 года назад

@@HacksignKT >>> 😊😊😊

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

I cannot believe I have to say this again when lots of other people did it already: this YT video is Star Trek Legacy sounds over scens of a movie whereeverything's explained: Star Wreck: In the Pirkining.

@Joseph1701-A Месяц назад

Awesome work, thank you so much for this great video.

@jtno2 2 года назад

Nice job of editing in all the different sound effects.

@leeroberts1192 2 года назад

The Starfleet armada would easily obliterate the B5 ships, just beam a torpedo next to a B5 ships engine core and detonate or if using any ship from Star Trek, just send in a handful of Borg cubes

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.

@charlespfaff6585 2 года назад

I would love to see a space combat game where ships from different shows can be pitted against each other. But the licencing would be impossible.

@jkeelsnc 2 года назад

This is Already possible with mods for bridge commander and yes it is interesting.

@jkeelsnc 2 года назад

Imagine the white star taking on the defiant. Yes, this has been done.

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@@jkeelsnc you took the words from my mouth - and I made some videos about that on my channel.

@nomadcontrafact6305 2 года назад

You did a great job with such a difficult job. I like it

@JohnLHeureux 29 дней назад

Nice audio add on the Finnish fan film Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning - recommend a watch for anyone reading this

@corbanb5 2 года назад

Star Trek 2364 to about 2409 while Babylon 5 is based between 2259 - 2262. Star-Trek has tech from hundreds of races working together while they fight against a race that doesn't even have artificial gravity. such a ridiculous comparison. Still fun to watch.

@scottbraun2457 2 года назад

With STAR FLEET'S shields powers nullified, TREK ships just solid and fragile, as EARTH ALIANCE ships. Makes it virtually an even match.

@xxan84 3 года назад

No shields for ST does not sound fair :) Also from what I remember Babylon's young races did not have energy shields so ST guys can just beam everyone into space :) That said, really good animation.

@anonymousperson3153 2 года назад

Torpedoes + Transporters + target the right place = instant destruction of ANY problematic ship.

@miguelgarr576 2 года назад

And ST don't have any telephatic crew! The B5 telepath just could made all the ST crew kill there self!

@xxan84 2 года назад

@@miguelgarr576 If you bring unique individuals like that into discussion Star Trek has a Q human, Rogers. You can imagine she snaps her fingers and the entire B5 universe ceases to exist. Hell even Wesley's ability to channel though itself and manipulate reality itself and it would be to much. Then ST also has AI's who are not going to be effected by telepaths (like the Doctor from Voyager).

@lexthelegend1455 2 года назад

@@miguelgarr576 vulcans Betazoids those are the prominent ones

@alexslgato1735 2 года назад

@mikekleppe1441 2 года назад

Very nicely made video and love both shows 👍👍

@vinceA3748 2 года назад

That was fantastic.

@Ama-hi5kn 3 месяца назад

Fukooooov! I rembember this parody from 2005 or so. Seems such a long time ago.

@tylergibbs3869 3 месяца назад

No worrys, Humans ar still humans, no matter what the date. at least for 10,000 years. Any pearson who claims to be "enlighted" By AI is in a mistaken state of mind.

@Nitemage1 Год назад

I think it’s funny because Star Trek ds9 was a rip off of Babylon 5 ..

@williamwhitney7395 Год назад

Very well done. I like how he kept the combat fluid 😄

@PhoenixBird9000 2 года назад

Beautiful video! Regardless of which series one is a fan of, the SFX work was fantastic.

@lexthelegend1455 2 года назад

Yeah, they did a great job, especially with no funding

@funkydj1974 2 года назад

Taken from the film - Star Wreck ' In the Pirkinning ' Great spoof movie , and these battle scenes have been sampled loads of times over the years

@jean-lucmartel2933 2 года назад

Ya the genius Russian who made that was also responsible for Iron Skies. THAT COMRADE is a Legend! I love how he literally created a Soviet Terran Empire. And the ship names are Pure Comedy. YOu Got the Omega-Class Backgammon, the Victory-Class Mk V Excavator and plenty of other halarious names.

@Locomotor1979 2 года назад

By the way iff they still had there shields then Starfleet whould have won anyway but i think the defiants against the whitestars whould have bin a good match becausse both are more or less warvessel

@jacobdrj101 2 года назад

This was alot of fun. Bravo!

@sarcasticstartrek7719 2 года назад

they didnt make it though.

@PaulRaymond-fd4hx Месяц назад

Well, that was..... That was pretty good! Thanks for that! Send more please!

@bureau31 3 года назад

I liked it! It is interesting how Star Fleet used the same tactic Ivanova used in the battle against the Omega X destroyer fleet in B5: use a coherent fleet and then use speed to destroy a stronger, but slower fleet one ship at a time (focus fire). 13:39 Lol

@willadeefriesland5107 Год назад

Fire photons at will? Aw, don't shoot Riker!

@pathfinderdiscovery9395 2 года назад

I like this version alot , very nicely done #1

@cousinjuno 2 года назад

Very entertaining, great job . You have a friend in Columbus, Ohio this ohio!

@Donbett1974 Год назад

I like that the ship that lasted the longest should have been the first to be destroyed.

@twilightgamedesigns4887 2 года назад

Anyone that is familiar with the difference in tech level presented in the two franchises will know trek ships are way more advance then most the factions in B5, and yes I love B5, had great storylines, ships, characters, etc. Different sci-fi creators just chose to use different levels of tech for the type of story telling they want to do.