About fucking time Konstantine died. I'm frankly surprised he managed to both retain his rank and survive in general after screwing up so often under Tarkin, Vader, and now Thrawn.
It's not Thrawn's style to punish every failure with death, but he's not above it, even in EU. He just rarely had to. And it still doesn't answer the question of how no less than three other superiors (Tarkin, Pryce, and Vader) tolerated Konstantine bumbling around and fucking up left and right.
Just maybe not on the one ship that has the sole responsibility of locking down the system, didn't even think Interdictor cruiser could take on other ships
Yes let’s take the strategically important ship that denies the enemy the ability to go into hyperspace and move it to attack another ship. Feel bad for Thrawn the dude had to deal with that idiot
I did this in front of my college roommate (who’s a hardcore pre-Disney SW fan) when I was first playing Star Wars: Empire at War; Thrawn’s Revenge mod. He laughed uncontrollably after watching me pull that move after we agreed that he wasn’t going to help telling me how to play for that battle.
@@will2brown50 I kinda went WW2 Soviet style. I said, “uhhh, ships, all attack at full force!” The fleet had next-to-nothing after that battle. Then, I ended up losing the campaign not too long after. I can still see and hear my roommate laughing whenever that memory comes around.
We're all talking about Constantine, but let's respect those nameless rebels who stood be their commander, despite knowing they'd die. They're real homies.
@William Harding who here said that? As long as it's on a valid military target hey honor first. Now the mother focker who thinks the red cross on the side of a hospital ship is there to aid your aim, that prick can burn.
Thrawn's face when Konstantine moved his ship was priceless Thrawn: *what the fuck do you think you're doing you little shit* 😂😂😂😂 and R.I.P Sato you will be missed
hmmm one aristocratic prick for a rebel scum command ship? i call that a win! sadly the interdictor was a valuable and expensive ship as in lore some of the parts for an interdictor are rare and hard to come by. but if konstantine had survived that somehow he wouldnt be holding a rank or be a member of the civilian populous hahahahahaha what he did was deffo ground for him to have a one time encounter with the emperor during a moment when Vader has upset Palpatine lols
first the Rebel Trooper who passed on the Death Star plans before getting skewered by Vader in Rogue One, now we see two Rebel Pilots who stick with Sato to the very end. Forget the Ghost Crew and the OT Trio (and Chewie), unnamed rebel grunts are da real MVP's of the galactic civil war
@@Unregistered.Hypercam.2. Where did you see that? And you know where they were at the time of the collision, right? That wasn't a dangerous position to be in. Edit: they died.
Had Admiral Konstantine held the line and not attacked, Ezra would have been denied his chance to gain reinforcements from the Clan Wren rebel cell. Thrawn was denied his victory because of Konstantine being seduced by glory. Glad Konstantine is dead now.
I wouldn't exactly say Thrawn has been denied his victory, considering all the rebel ships and forces he destroyed. But yeah, on his point of view, it was a loss since he couldn't take out the main leaders. (aka, Hera) Also, Bendu's forshadowing. *_(Bendu is creepy!)_* T_T
Thrawn destroyed a rebel base, one hammerhead, 5 CR90 corvettes, 2 gunships, 3 NebulonB frigates, several GR75s , one carrier and several fighters... to all effects Phoenix cell has been destroyed
0:20 that officer would have been well within his right to disobey the order from Constantine. Thrawn is a Grand Admiral. Even if Constantine is an admiral Thrawn's overall strategic order supersedes any vain order a ships commander may give
@@silverlotus7790 is this for real? I would assume sure. Either way that dude was waived from any wrongdoing since he was following orders from anybody above him. Unless it says you MUST go by the highest ranking order. The burden of punishment would’ve been on Constantine
@@WinginWolf The punishment would have definitely fallen onto Constantine had they not all died. And he was within his rights to defer to Constantine since he was the highest ranking on the ship but had he refused, Thrawn would have likely commended him
You know what.... bring on the hate: Konstantine DESERVED an idiot's death simply because he let the potential glory he'd earn by killing Commander Sato AND this sense of digust he probably felt serving under an 'Non-Human' Flag Officer (who out-ranked him BTW) Then again, had Konstantine survived, Thrawn would have probably had him executed both for committing a grave mistake and disobeying a direct order.
And here we see how the Empire held on more through inertia and Palpatine tiring out the galaxy with the Clone Wars (which he started then prolonged for that very purpose) rather than competence. Remember when we saw Imperial officer cadet training way back in Season 1, where they were pushed to compete with each other and hurt their comrades to get the leg up? This is exactly the lesson Constantine applied: to seize glory for /his/ career at the expense of his comrades. And then not only did he die for it, but he got every single one of his crewmembers killed and on top of that hamstrung the battle plan which would get countless more of the troops he, as an officer, is supposed to be responsible for. But that's the Empire for you - the pawns can die as long as you get the glory.
@@codename1176 I don't think it encouraged incompetence per say, but the hierarchy was very unstable and when a lot of your top dogs are being executed all the times whether it being Vadar having a temper tantrum or their superiors feel threatened for their seat of power as an officer or governor, it was bound to fall apart, competent or incompetent commanders wouldn't make much of a difference.
@@voin5371 nah , Vader killed incompetent and idiotic officers , for those that proved themselves before , he actually gives a second chance. It's not much , but more than just killing randomly.
@@voin5371 Vader just went for the guys that didn't try to do their job somewhat decently. Those that did prove themselves as competent and useful to both him and the empire weren't killed when Vader got angry. In the comics he and the Commanding officer of a Star Destroyer had quite a heated argument, but they managed to work it out and captured a rouge Crewmember that was bombarding the shit out of rebel bases, to deny the Imperials any intel about the main base.
"Sir? We've analysed their attack strategy and there is a danger. Should we prepare your shuttle?" "Evacuate?! In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their cha.." 1:18
I mean, how many I’m perhaps have died because of their overconfidence and foolishness. Cassio Tagge is like the only imperial to address concern over the growing threat of the rebels
Translation: if the rebels do manage to destroy the death Star I am going down with it because I am not going to try to explain how I lost the Death Star to Emperor Palpatine
It happens in real life too. The US Navy was infamous for it during WW2. Some admirals were so spectacularly incompetent that they lost entire battles due purely to idiocy.
Many officers got their positions by either their loyalty to Palpatine’s regime, family ties, or influence Thrawn is an example of an officer that gained his rank through success and effort, while Konstantine likely gained his rank for his loyalty to Palpatine rather than his competence
Admiral Konstantine was trained in conventional warfare(1v1ing other capital ships) and coupled with the fact that Admiral Konstantin has a hard time adapting to the rebellion’s unorthodox way of fighting AND the fact he wasn’t really trained to combat starfighters makes him seem incompetent in the series
Those 2 rebel pilots were really showing dedication and wanted to die for the sake of freeing the galaxy of the Empire’s grasp. It makes me sad that they go to these measures to free the galaxy.
Mon Mothma Ironic that a representative of the rebels would cheer for the one a who threaten want you once stood for. Or are you hiding something. Meh what do I care?
I'm just absolutely blown away by the first half of this. Not only the demise of Sato (whom we cared very little of, or maybe that's just me) and that awesome carrier (any idea how long our favorite graffiti girl spent painting that giant fucking hijacked ship?!), but Konstantine... True, the man was more than just an idiot, but he's been bitch-slapped by all the villains - the Inquisitors, Vader; and made it out. I love how this is the moment where he finally snapped. I mean, from his first interaction with Thrawn in Steps into Shadow, he was kind of surprised but also offended that Thrawn was a GRAND Admiral, and he finally grew tired of Thrawn's "patience" game. His voice crack-type thing when he screamed "Take evasive action!" was just chilling. Honestly the death of Sato was (almost guaranteed inspired by and) identical to the sacrifice of Janek in "Prometheus" (I mean, Sato even had two no-namers who heroically went down with their captain as well), and Konstantine's death was as alarming as Clayton's in "Tarzan". That's just one of the one hundred things that made me gasp loudly and widen my eyes in this finale. I dare say it was better than the S2 finale.
Eric J Blevins in my opinion two very different episodes. With twilight it's something that was built off so much and was extremely centered on a few major characters and was nostalgia driven. Here is all the major and minor characters of the season working as a collective with not that much lightsaber action going on while in twilight that's what it was all about. I really can't compare em
i dont know if Prometheus was the first to do something like this, its a bit of a trope and although I like Prometheus a lot of ppl seem to hate it and ignore it completely.
The learned from the orks space pirates from Warhammer 40k they just are to stupid to develop ships which are really designed for ramming^^ Green is better.
It reminded me of that one episode in TCW with the Ryloth blockade and Anakin decides the only way to break it is to ram the cruiser into the droid control ship. Only that time it was more light hearted because no one died and he followed it up with "oh and you can still have my ship". Here Sato sacrificed himself and there was nothing funny about it.
Your whish is my command, my Emperor. Gillad Pellaeon was present at the Battle for Lothal in the Season 4 final as commandant of the imperial blockade.
@The Program Yeah, Thrawn was written superbly in Rebels. He suffered occasional defeats, but he was content with those defeats if they led him to a larger victory. The S3 finale was just a perfect pay-off. After three seasons of the rebels winning time and time again, building their fleet, building their base, preparing to save Lothal, all of it is gone. Most of them are dead, all because Thrawn was smarter than they were. Even better, this continues into Season 4. Thrawn is still smarter than they are, enough that the rebels can't hope to beat him in a straight fight. In the end, it took Ezra. He used the Force to see the future and manipulated it, at the cost of his own sacrifice. Even Thrawn's genius was no match for a Jedi who was literally bending reality to their will. It was a fantastic way to beat Thrawn, and a great way to conclude Ezra's character arc as he uses the Force in a way that even the Jedi of old couldn't manage. Ezra isn't even the only one; Luke uses that same ability to save Han from Jabba. Just great stuff all round.
@@Cailus3542 considering how much Filoni could pull material wise for Thrawn out of Legends? Yes, it was good writing. If they can use his FULL potential? He would have his own series.
If anything Thrawn was already doing him a favor by putting him in command of one of the KEY ships in the fleet, but of course, Konstantine was a glory hound. Never seek out glory, but instead let it come to you.
And that my friends is why you should never get on Thrawn’s bad side. He’s terrifying in battle and yet he’s one of my favorite Star Wars antagonists. I’m so excited to get more of him in Ahsoka.
even though I'm the empire all the way but how commander Sato died that's what you call the best death scene all season but I'm i the only one that's wondering were iron squadron is his nephew is gonna be pissed
If only Thrawn had the ability to remove Konstantine from his position of captain sooner. Politics likely prevented him from doing so. Part of great leadership is cultivating the right people under your position. I'm reading Zahn's new book and Thrawn always had to work twice as hard to build the right team because of his outsider status. It's already tough enough to get rid of tenured captains like Konstantine.
Think about it for one second. Rogue One. The Original Trilogy. The Force Awakens. Probably none of that would have happened if Konstantine had followed orders. Thrawn would have annihilated the Rebellion then and there.
Imagine if the melavolence was still here and fire ion cannon along with full batteries firing.. The droids comment "boy this is a lot more fun when there not shooting back"..
Every season finale saw the death of notable enemy of the protagonistss. S1: the grand inquisitor S2: three Inquisitors (though one we'd only just learned of) S3: Constantine S4: Rukh and Price (also Pellaeon if you were paying attention, but he's not notable in Rebels and is instead notable in Legends)
The gravity well system was first seen during outbound flight. It was first utilized by the Vagaari in the Wild space reaches, and the weapon was caught and examined by Chiss Commander Thrawn. In the book, he is subsequently recruited after Outbound flight is shot down by Thrawn in order to prevent first contact between the republic and the Yuuzhan Vong which was the prime motivator for the formation of the Galactic empire. Some neat stuff coming in from that book right there.
What I love about Thrawn is how he is undermined here by his own men. By all accounts he did nothing wrong during this battle, or the following ground battle. But, like many other imperial officers, Constantine was so obsessed with Glory and Status he ignored the danger and got himself killed.
"Those Imperials would be very surprised if a huge fleet of thirteen Romuln D'Deridex class Warbirds decloaked and took them by surprised with their powerful disruptor beam energy weapons!"
@@Kaga184 In Star Trek Online the Romulan Republic allied themselves with the Humans and Klingons in order to improve relations and to stop the rogue corrupted Romulan Tal Shiar.
@@ajdominguez1002 The warmongering Daleks from the British Sci-Fi TV Series "Doctor Who" would be an even bigger and more dangerous challenge for Grand Admiral Thrawn too in my opinion. Have you heard of the Dalek before? (The Daleks look and sound like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jz8HGjcRKwY.html Plus the Daleks symbolic and iconic Dalek Flying Saucer Warships look awesome, extremely powerful, fast, maneuverable, and intimidating too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fp_tVUK56NU.html )
Technically, that battle was sound. Admiral Piett wasn't even an idiot - he was just unlucky. He followed orders to a *T* ; when the (Judicator?) lost shields, he wanted the guns in front of the bridge to focus there so they couldn't be destroyed. It was just the balls of one A-Wing pilot that thwarted everything.
RedNine It gets closer to rogue one (which featured x wings for everyone) and with Dodonna at yavin, he could form red Squadron (ft. Wedge) and Hera would be a general.
Just realise something, isn't Konstantine the unsung hero of this battle? If it weren't for his arrogant, the blockage would had still be in effect and thus Erza wouldn't escape and return with the reinforcement. On second thought it will be Sato the unsung hero too for commiting a sucide act that paid off! 1:42 Thrawn was wrong, Konstantine did undermine his effort!
Actually it was Thrawn's fault. He once tested Konstantine's talents with that light cruiser solo mission. He failed the mission and lost the ship. Giving him such an important role in the decisive battle is stupid.
Not really Konstantine actually had one of his better moments in the light cruiser mission, he handled himself well, except he fell victim to the droids antics like just about every imperial on the show, which had he checked for droids he might well have won the battle. His failure would not have happened if he had Thrawn there aiding him.
+Nialen Capefet Konstantine's job really wasn't all that important. He was just supposed to keep the Interdictor behind the Capital Ship line. Instead, he sent it to the front to fight the Rebel Command Ship.
This is what ramming should be like. Not a "kill everything" button that is so obviously worth using every time, but a self sacrifice that, given the right situation and intelligent application, just might be able to turn the tide.
All those massive secret fleets Palpatine and others had and wasted in one single operation... Thrawn started out with 3 ISDs and a few support ships in HTTE and ran the rebels ragged. The things he could have done with a proper fighting force... :(
As a supervisor in the civilian world, I understand how frustrating it is when one of your people thinks they know better than you and messes everything up.
The Grand Admiral forgots to say:" And send someone to wake up the Turbo Laser Crews. If they would do there Jobs for 20 Secounds, this cute little Fleet turns to dust."
