Star Wars: Recusant Class Light Destroyer | Ship Breakdown 

True. The Separatists laid some of the groundwork for the Rebel Alliance after the Clone Wars.

And they say the CIS lost the war. If anything it was the republic who lost. The droid army may have died before the republic but the CIS continued on well into the empire and what was left of them would go on to become the rebellion.

If you think about it, the CIS was the prequel version of the rebel alliance, they even have similar looking space ships(it might just be me but a lot of their capital ships look like mon calamari ships with just a more mechanical vibe)

@@andrewhastings8244 seeing how their full name is the Confederacy of *Independent Systems* it makes sense, because the Rebels were once called the Alliance of *Free Planets*

Aggression should be tempered with intelligence. That’s a far deadlier combination then a straight up aggro droid brain

@@matthewcaughey8898 feck that, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

So, just imagine a destroyer skipper, but now also add in the droid's complete lack of survival instinct for itself or crew. You aren't giving a reason why the droid brain wasn't needed, your showing why they want the droid brain. You know, until they start losing too many ships to overly-aggressive droid brains ramming friendly ships.

A sapient skipper would be able to use their life experience and understanding to discern when it's time to hit hard and fast to best survive, and when it's time to sacrifice oneself to achieve a war-shortening objective. He would also be able to reassure his crew that he is capable of making these sorts of choices. With a purpose-built AI calling the shots, their ship might as well be a manned missile from the crew's perspective.

@@thebigbrzezinski3201 to be fair, I'd trust a purpose built AI as much as an experienced Skipper. Up until that purpose built AI turns around and tells me it was purpose built for controlling a mechanical pidgeon.

Same can be said for Droid variations.

It is because the Clone Wars movies and TV series are all Imperial Propaganda. Much like how the Original Trilogy is Rebellion Propaganda. All because you are viewing a conflict mostly from one side of the war. And reason why much of the comics that covered both eras are seen as non-canon. Because they attempt to give a perspective from both sides and try to level the playing field. To show how much the Republic was a lot more evil and willing to go to war. Than, the CIS and other allies that would join. To the Empire being rather justice to a sense and offered stability to worlds that were once nothing but war. Still, Empire is still Evil. All because they enslaved the Wookies...bastards.

How is it ironic?

I'd say it's the difference between the standardization of equipment due to government bureaucracy trying to keep costs down, while enabling their logistics engine to cover the galaxy... and the individual separatist's bringing their own strengths to the table.

How so?? The CIS Navy was a coalition of gigacorporate vessels who happened to have a similar trait, they could be largely or entirely crewed by droids. Each member had thousands of their own ships to form the backbone of their combined navy. Additional ship types were commissioned once the CIS was formed. The sum of all these vehicles contrasted with the Republic Navy which had fewer standardized designs in smaller numbers.

If a friendly ship is in the way, it means it isn't on a direct course with the enemy and is thus a useless coward.

They actually are, in the Essential Guide to Warfare the Recusant that Grievous used is more than 2 km in lenght, and is called the Large Variant Recusant-class Light Destroyer

The Recusant, Providence, Arquitens, -Imperial III- Xyston… I love how Star Wars keeps creating size inconsistencies with ships and always explains them by ships having large variants of the usual design lol. And that’s before getting into stuff like the Tector.

@@zakiducky I think the Tector makes a lot more sense than just a rescaled ship, as it will still use the same frame and vast majority of parts, as well as being perfectly sized to fit existing infrastructure for ISDs, but when rescaling a ship, you have to redesign basically everything, while all the parts are incompatible, for absolutely no benefit at all

@@thatstarwarsnerd6641 Oh I agree there. Stuff like the Tector, Imperial/ Victory/ Acclamator 1 &2 are basically variants or improvements of the same overall frame and hull. It’s similar to the F-35 A, B, & C in the real world, or how with aircraft carriers, improvements are made to later ships of the line based on real world experience of the first. Stuff like that is iterative in the real world and Star Wars, and makes waaaaay more sense than the ships scaled up with almost the exact same hull. But when you do start including all the variant ships like the Tector, Imp 1 & 2, and so on that are created because of inconsistencies in the lore, we start getting more ship types than one person could feasibly keep track of, and that’s just funny to me lolol

CIS wasn't prepared for long war as Republic didn't have serious navy at that time so they make do with what they have to terrorize mostly undefended planets with minimum of starfighters. This ships were not designed to go against Republic's new navy.

Did he ever command one? I thought he just used Providences

@@thatstarwarsnerd6641 No, he only commanded Providences during the war.

Or another Providence, as they seem to be purely command ships, and we know they were used as early as the Battle of Christophsis, although it may confuse people when it is destroyed but he still has the Invisible Hand in RotS

...what dreadnought version of the Recusant are you talking about? The Subjugator? The ship we only see for three episodes?

@@jedimasterpickle3 No, there's Recusants that are twice the size they were in Ep3 in several bits of TCW, Greivous had one, also Trench's providence is far bigger than Invisible hand. There's also oversized munificents all over.

Thing is the Malevolance was lost early and the Lucrehulks are carrier-command ships not battleship-command ship They literally just made the Recusant even bigger cause why not lol, theres also the Providence

@@jedimasterpickle3 ​The big ones that are twice the size of the Venators. The Dreadnought term is meant to be loosely stated since Star Wars has a myriad of terms for ship sizes that's not entirely applied correctly according to certain sizes. I guess for the nitpickers they would be defined as Battlecruisers?

I thought of the Cat and Mouse episode first with the cloaked Republic ship.

@@mitwhitgaming7722 I think that was a Providence class dreadnought, captained by admiral trench

plus you need less supplies for an automated ship. honestly all star wars capital ships should be automated outside of bridge crew.

That recusant command by general grievous up scale variant of recusant. i get what you mean.

why would the sapience level make it a non-combatant. sapients are used in combat all the time irl and in starwars. as for suicidal charges, that is a matter of opinion. the ship isn't designed to death ride, its designed to be agressive putting the enemy on the back foot and thus giveing your fleet the initiative.

@@matthiuskoenig3378 A less sapient droid could be closer to a robot, and thus not have self awareness. If a droid with full sapience was forced to fight against their will, that's no different than slave wars of the Roman era. Very ethically wrong. Leave the fighting for those who choose to fight, or droids that lack the sapience the choose. Droids with sufficient sapience and slaves should be at most noncombatant support.

did you not watch the video? its controled by a central computer. the bridge is irrelevant.

Well, that's technically all the Confederate ships, Vulture droids could hide behind the armor plates of Munificents and Recusants or crawl on the hull of Providences thanks to having magnetic feets

External docks yes. Also the double size version has a normal hangar

irl they are multi-role vessels, in fleets they useually form the defensive screen (as was their orginal purpose, which is why they are called destroyers. its a shortening of torpedo boat destroyers. ofcaurse nowdays they are primarily AA and anti-submarine screens, aswell as intercepting other destroyers). they are also used as reconnaissance vessels and for harassing the enemy fleet in general. in modern navies destroyers are also adopting the roles of cruisers as line ships, but this is more because of the dominance of airpower at the moment making line ships less important and thus not worth investing in a dedicated lineship, than destroyes beng better line ships than cruisers.

Probably been used to protect convoys against pirates.

@LennoxPoodle that is legends lore, in legends it was a joint effort of zealous techno union separatists and free dac volunteers engineering useing commerceguild resources alongside tech stollen from the mon calarmari, specifically for the clone wars. a large number of them were also paid for by thousands of non-corporate worlds quote "eager to defend their independence." in disney canon they retconned it into a pre-clone wars ship without an explanation as to why it was ordered or how it was used pre-war. although we can assume pirate hunting.

bulky? they are skeletal.

@@matthiuskoenig3378 Bulky as in too big, not bulky as in bulky frame, just to clarify

I believe it first appeared in the game: Star wars Republic Commando.

@@Jack-Hands acording to wookiepedia you are correct.

@@matthiuskoenig3378 yeah. I remembered because I played that game a couple of months ago. You had to use AA guns on Kashyyk to shoot it down.

Google Books is largely reliable, but you're right, most distributors are entirely ripping off creators. That's why Patreon is such a lifeline for people making original content, that's absolutely the way to get the series that most supports us.

that's just how things *are* in star wars, a lot of ship designs don't make sense for operating in a three-dimensional space. why do star destroyers need such massive bridges? that design made sense during the time of battleships here on earth, as it allows for a greater range at which you can visibly spot your opponent, but it makes no sense in space.

if the enemy can move so can you... (plus shields exist in star wars). space has plenty of space to maneuver. if the enemy attacks from the top or bottom you don't even have to turn to face them, just reverse and they will be in your frontal arc again.

it does have armour on the rear, just less armour. (and shields are a thing in star wars). its actually dumb to put equal ammounts of armour all around your ship. extra weight and cost that you have to lug around that only comes into use when you fuck up badly.

No, not realy