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Star Wars Theory: The Truth About Captain Phasma 

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One of our biggest questions from Star Wars The Force Awakens was… Why is Captain Phasma so lame?? Well, upon my latest viewing I noticed something that may explain everything and reveal the truth about Captain Phasma!
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@lyricbot8513
@lyricbot8513 7 лет назад
Assaj Ventress was first female villain in Star wars movie
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 7 лет назад
+yo Kennedy not in a movie
@pillowdaily7431
@pillowdaily7431 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers What about Zam Wessel?
@jacobkodicovic4041
@jacobkodicovic4041 7 лет назад
Actually, she was in the animated Clone Wars movie
@Jay-629
@Jay-629 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers actually she was in the Clone Wars movie.
@rainmaker3693
@rainmaker3693 7 лет назад
Braden Gatlin zzs
@angeladavidson2350
@angeladavidson2350 7 лет назад
So Captain Phasma is basically Snape. Without the complicated backstory (or maybe she DOES have one...)
@ceciliasobo281
@ceciliasobo281 7 лет назад
Angela Davidson no, Kylo Ren is Snape.
@angeladavidson2350
@angeladavidson2350 7 лет назад
Cecilia Sobo Him too
@capnjackdaniels3663
@capnjackdaniels3663 7 лет назад
Cecilia Sobo Na... Kylo Ren is more like Malfoy.
@ceciliasobo281
@ceciliasobo281 7 лет назад
Bob Saget see previous video by Ben
@TheMinecraftMan757
@TheMinecraftMan757 7 лет назад
I can picture Captain Phasma saying "You.. have your mothers... eyes..."
@eddiediaz5518
@eddiediaz5518 7 лет назад
Plot Twist: Boba Fett is Captain Phasma's father
@bradmcgee4768
@bradmcgee4768 7 лет назад
Edwin diaz no
@eddiediaz5518
@eddiediaz5518 7 лет назад
Brads Ballerz yes
@_ee75
@_ee75 7 лет назад
Edwin diaz too easy
@raynjohnson9354
@raynjohnson9354 7 лет назад
Edwin diaz that'd be hilarious
@annabethcatic3462
@annabethcatic3462 7 лет назад
Edwin diaz yes
@konodioda2135
@konodioda2135 6 лет назад
Heck, The Only Thing she does in TLJ Is Fight Finn And Die
@DamienConcordel
@DamienConcordel 5 лет назад
Does she though? That's not clear
@Rockinghorrors
@Rockinghorrors Год назад
She may or may not be dead
@franciscofuentes6209
@franciscofuentes6209 7 лет назад
Phasma's voice is brilliant. Like a...robot.... _gasps_ O-O
@dave5640
@dave5640 7 лет назад
plot twist captain phasma is jar jar binks
@ErenYeager-bz5jo
@ErenYeager-bz5jo 7 лет назад
No
@coconutpole9455
@coconutpole9455 7 лет назад
Jar Jar Binks yes
@stonedude1234
@stonedude1234 7 лет назад
YES PLEASE XD
@weiyin8046
@weiyin8046 7 лет назад
Dave NO I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO SEE THAT CREATURE EVER AGAIN
@matthewm9
@matthewm9 7 лет назад
Average citizen why does everyone hate jar jar he is halarious. *BESIDES THE ANNOYING VOICE
@locomotivefaox
@locomotivefaox 7 лет назад
"Oh.. Lower the shields? I thought you said alert everyone to your presence." That should've been the actual line.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 7 лет назад
What do you think where do Captain Phasma's true allegiances lie?
@lilacheek1394
@lilacheek1394 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers I've been watching your first vids and you guys have gotten SOO much better!! Good job!
@mr.nugget1036
@mr.nugget1036 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers Double agent! or both maybe?
@gavinmillerick2070
@gavinmillerick2070 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers I love your videos!!!
@shadowdestroyer5265
@shadowdestroyer5265 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers you guys are my favorite youtuber a ever. Keep up the good work!
@crappycanadianfilms200
@crappycanadianfilms200 7 лет назад
SuperCarlinBrothers daym... compelling arguments, I'm with you on this one bud
@figrindantatooine
@figrindantatooine 7 лет назад
I totally hope you are right about Phasma.
@AmatoGore
@AmatoGore 7 лет назад
ikr? it just make the character 100 times better. now i just excited to see her more for the future movies. hope this theory is true
@obrgrs2547
@obrgrs2547 7 лет назад
Figrin Dan please read the book "phasma" its a great book and prooves phasmas side
@ang1217sr
@ang1217sr 6 лет назад
I would’ve believed it but The Last Jedi trailer has Fin and Phasma in fighting so I have to disagree
@knightmoritz1895
@knightmoritz1895 6 лет назад
Finn smashes her helmet just after snoke is killed by kylo ren and mega class star destroyer is cut through with a rebel cruiser going to lightspeed, so... I don't think she's on our side. But luke's force ghost is! So we're safe.
@caydenmongolo7187
@caydenmongolo7187 6 лет назад
Figrin Dan he couldn’t have been any more wrong I watched episode eight she is full blown first order
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 7 лет назад
My theory is that she's Galen Erso's daughter, Jyn's half-sister. After going back to work on the Death Star, Galen remarries and has a kid-in order to keep up the ruse that he's a team player. That kid grows up to join the First order, rising in the ranks, to subversively try to take it down from within, just like her father.
@caydenmongolo7187
@caydenmongolo7187 6 лет назад
Danny Cruz so she is like 56 way past soldier a front line soldier age
@iFrndlyfire
@iFrndlyfire 5 лет назад
Nope. Read the book.
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
She is 100% not Galen Erso's daughter.
@paulwilkinson4073
@paulwilkinson4073 4 года назад
Naþan Ø how do you know
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 4 года назад
@@iFrndlyfire read the book when it came out years ago.it was lousy. The author desperately wanted Phasma to be Furiousa
@the_cyberchill
@the_cyberchill 7 лет назад
First female villian in a live action star wars movie, technically ventress is the first female villain
@1dareu2mov3
@1dareu2mov3 7 лет назад
Bella D Copular Nope. That'd be Zam Wessel (though she/he is both a changeling and a pretty minor character).
@imagaintwonkabar4384
@imagaintwonkabar4384 7 лет назад
brendan95delany zam wesell is a bounty hunter that is a shape shifter so for one shes technically not a she and she's a bounty hunter not evil or good
@GuardDogEvents
@GuardDogEvents 7 лет назад
I believe the word to describe her is antagonist. But her alignment is up in the air. She antagonizes the heroes but is not clearly know to be heroic or villainous by default within what we currently know.
@lyricbot8513
@lyricbot8513 7 лет назад
Taiku Altergrund At the time she is a villain, despite becoming an ally later on
@GuardDogEvents
@GuardDogEvents 7 лет назад
You clearly do not understand literary terms and differentiation between characteristics a person and roles in an event. If you were to look at the character as a whole across their live would they be a villian or a hero? as far as we know, neither. they work for who ever pays them hunting criminals and bounties of any variety. in the movie that just happens to be the heros. as a whole the character would have a true neutral alignment. Meaning that perspective is key. Not a villain. just an antagonist.
@Daviddv
@Daviddv 7 лет назад
Captain Phasma is the Boba Fett and Darth Maul of the Star Wars Canon Universe.
@daviddorsey6460
@daviddorsey6460 7 лет назад
griffinandjack productionz And all part of the Star Wars universe
@gjp8492
@gjp8492 7 лет назад
DAY-V Entertainment™ ok thanks for clearing it up
@Daviddv
@Daviddv 7 лет назад
And what I mean by this is that Darth Maul and Boba Fett were built up to be major badasses in the Star Wars universe but their fate ended in the poorest way possible. Boba Fett accidentally got hit by Solo, screamed like a bitch and then got eaten by the Sarlacc Pit. Darth Maul barely got any scenes in The Phantom Menace and got chopped in half like a bitch. However, they fixed that in The Clone Wars (Which is also canon). Captain Phasma was supposed to be this dangerous badass leader of the First Order but barely did anything and how did her story end in this episode? She got sent to the trash! That's why Captain Phasma is similar to Boba Fett and Darth Maul.
@xVisuaLxEffects
@xVisuaLxEffects 7 лет назад
"Chopped in half like a bitch" xD
@freddy.st16
@freddy.st16 7 лет назад
DAY-V Entertainment™ Boba Fett is alive.....
@protol5683
@protol5683 7 лет назад
I imagine the writer for episode 8 is going through hell right now. First Fisher dying, now all these theorys
@TalonSky
@TalonSky 7 лет назад
Proto L People Magazine stated that all of Carrie Fisher's scenes for EP 8 are already finished, though take that with a grain of salt.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 7 лет назад
+TalonSky There is another issue, though; what were they planning for Leia in Ep9? I mean seriously, if they didn't kill of Leia in Ep8 then they're going to have to come up with some reason as for why she isn't in 9. And if she does die in 8... Well, how awkward is it going to be watching that?
@demondotjpeg8423
@demondotjpeg8423 7 лет назад
Jack Don no they won't they said they wouldn't
@HallowIsSmol
@HallowIsSmol 7 лет назад
Proto L no, Fisher's parts were already filmed by the time she passed.
@Altorin
@Altorin 7 лет назад
It's also really easy to kill someone on screen these days. With digital technology she could have an onscreen poignant death complete with closeups. It's not like they're going to have to give Betty white a pair of giant sunglasses like she's Bruce Li
@finn_underwood
@finn_underwood 7 лет назад
I'm betting Phasma isn't a member of the resistance; instead just doesn't support the First Order's world-destroying device of death and destruction. Like Finn, she doesn't exactly need to be part of the rebellion before she can do things to help it. And she doesn't have to go full traitor in order to help, either. She can still be part of the First Order while not supporting their ideals entirely. A morally (and literally) grey character. But, that's just my bet. I'm sure Ep 8 will prove us all wrong regardless.
@caydenmongolo7187
@caydenmongolo7187 6 лет назад
Finn Underwood it did it did
@fantasticmadness8935
@fantasticmadness8935 6 лет назад
Finn Underwood honestly I was thinking that J was correct but reading your comment I can definitely see her 'helping' the rebellion then just disappear like Psylock at the end of X-Men Apocalypse. Or at least since Ep.8
@jakeyboyreacts6192
@jakeyboyreacts6192 6 лет назад
The last jedi proves everyone wrong
@kawaii_gummy_bears5273
@kawaii_gummy_bears5273 6 лет назад
Yep deffo
@BaronVladHarkonnen
@BaronVladHarkonnen 6 лет назад
No starkiller base was named after Luke’s original name in the early drafts before they changed his name to skywalker it was starkiller
@robertgronewold3326
@robertgronewold3326 7 лет назад
She's not the first female Star Wars villain. Remember the bounty hunter Zam Wessel from Attack of the Clones.
@FrogEnjoyer17
@FrogEnjoyer17 5 лет назад
Ventriss
@AmazingFiguresandBricks
@AmazingFiguresandBricks 7 лет назад
The truth is she has the best armor ever
@beholdthejuice
@beholdthejuice 6 лет назад
Amazing Figures and Bricks you watch SuperCarlinBrothers???
@ehannnr9694
@ehannnr9694 6 лет назад
Then why did she lower the sheild? If they shot her she wouldn't die.
@rehp
@rehp 6 лет назад
Ehanproductions the entire video was about how captain phasma is actually good
@ehannnr9694
@ehannnr9694 6 лет назад
I know......lol...I guess I forgot...im dumb XD
@rehp
@rehp 6 лет назад
Don't worry man, everyone makes mistakes sometimes
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 7 лет назад
Well lets hope they do have some big plans for her character.
@mitwhitgaming7722
@mitwhitgaming7722 7 лет назад
Jordan Broly Read the Phasma novel! ;)
@KISSArmySoldier
@KISSArmySoldier 7 лет назад
Jordan Broly they do. She'll be one of the main villans
@jackofn0trades29
@jackofn0trades29 6 лет назад
Just saw last Jedi. They don’t
@serpentsoldier7069
@serpentsoldier7069 6 лет назад
She dies lol
@Eficiente_VSB
@Eficiente_VSB 7 лет назад
In SW VIII is going to reveal that she is the last Mandalorian, daughter of Boba Fett and heiress of the Slave One and Black Saber
@henrycracas9190
@henrycracas9190 7 лет назад
Eficiencia Infinita 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 this NEEDS to be true
@ThisToxicX
@ThisToxicX 7 лет назад
Eficiencia Infinita no
@montregloe
@montregloe 7 лет назад
thought mandalor was still around
@shadowhunter240
@shadowhunter240 7 лет назад
Brian Miller same
@LJLvids
@LJLvids 7 лет назад
dude, mandalore still seems too be a prominent planet. and there where plenty of warriors still around during the empire times
@22freedom33
@22freedom33 4 года назад
It's hilarious watching this now, because it just shows how bad of a character Phasma was and how there was no planning for these movies lol
@ASLTheatre
@ASLTheatre 4 года назад
The book on Phasma’s back story tells a different tale. She doesn't care for the First Order or the Rebellion. She only cares for herself.
@ajzeg01
@ajzeg01 7 лет назад
Phasma was not the first female villain in a Star Wars movie. Zam Wessel was. And if she doesn't count because she wasn't in the movie enough, A: That same logic applies to Phasma, and B: Then Asajj Ventress was in the Clone Wars movie. And there was a female villain in one of the Ewok movies too.
@theblackgoatofthewoods
@theblackgoatofthewoods 7 лет назад
ajzeg01 Asajj are more villain then Zam. Zam was Jango's scapegoat
@noahliasam7407
@noahliasam7407 7 лет назад
ajzeg01 not movie but series*
@zachanikwano
@zachanikwano 7 лет назад
yeeaaah ewok movies nostalgia
@theblackgoatofthewoods
@theblackgoatofthewoods 7 лет назад
Dont even think that the witch you talk of has a spoken name in the movie
@jasonnoel2660
@jasonnoel2660 7 лет назад
ajzeg01 you''re right Zam even has all her screen time at the same time
@astrogobo1558
@astrogobo1558 7 лет назад
Dang, this fits in perfectly with a theory I have, that Phasma is actually Sabine from Rebels working to take down the First Order from the inside. And yeah, Sabine isn't British, but she might be faking to blend in better.
@fanfusion4276
@fanfusion4276 7 лет назад
Astro Gobo What is the evidence? Just curious.
@astrogobo1558
@astrogobo1558 7 лет назад
FanFusion There isn't really any, just an idea I came up with that would be really cool.. not much of a theory, I know :P
@finalninjazero5140
@finalninjazero5140 7 лет назад
Astro Gobo That would be cool if it were true. But the only thing is that there is like zero proof. It's just that there is no real proof against it so we can dream.
@TheOriginal_Unaleska
@TheOriginal_Unaleska 7 лет назад
sabine would be older than luke is in ep7 if this was the case. so i very much doubt it.
@astrogobo1558
@astrogobo1558 7 лет назад
TheOriginal Unaleska Older than Luke by about a year or two. Not that big of a difference.
@paxtharsis
@paxtharsis 7 лет назад
now that you mention. it she does say "you're making a big mistake" in the same tone as I've seen under cover cops in crime movies say it to other less aware cops. If she's not an under cover resistance member, I think if nothing else Gwendoline Christie thought she was. Besides this fits in well with some of the stuff Cassian says he has done in Rouge One. They can even reveal thst Phasma belongs to the Intelligence corps from Rouge One (or what they grew into after the events of Rouge One and the civil war).
@paxtharsis
@paxtharsis 7 лет назад
a great tie in would reveal Phasma to hold the title of Fulcrum tying Rebels into everything.
@mitchellhayward6492
@mitchellhayward6492 7 лет назад
Assuming this is false, I'm just putting it out here. I would have given her a bigger part by showing her in the trash compactor, calmly radio some troops to get her out, then when Poe Dameron and the Resistance pilots come out of hyperspace to attack the base, she rushes off to correct her mistake and re-raise the shields, only to find that Finn, Han, and Chewie have destroyed the console. So with one last chance to set things right, she heads straight to the hanger, gets herself into a fighter, and starts shooting down X-wings in some sort of more advanced version of a TIE interceptor or something; where she's shown-off to be at least an excellent dog-fighter.
@Bexebeche
@Bexebeche 7 лет назад
Spoiler alert: at the end it will turn out it was just bad writing.
@Kilory-Star_Wars
@Kilory-Star_Wars 7 лет назад
You don't know that. It could look like bad writing, but unravel to be something more.
@Bidoofus
@Bidoofus 6 лет назад
Bexebeche and turns out you're right
@ScuffedMute
@ScuffedMute 4 года назад
I wish this was actually intended because this would of been one of the best twists ever
@moduspwnenz
@moduspwnenz 4 года назад
turns out you're wrong :/
@m.m.2897
@m.m.2897 7 лет назад
I had no idea Captain Phasma was a woman... and then on Halloween I dressed up as her... So I cross dressed... Time to cross that off the bucket list.
@TheBeedleBard
@TheBeedleBard 7 лет назад
Cynda Stuff She had a woman's voice so...
@pablocruz5613
@pablocruz5613 7 лет назад
Cynda Stuff if you didn't watch the movie and only watched the screen shots I understand. If not, yo need a hearing aid, clearly a woman by he voice.
@MsStrawberrita
@MsStrawberrita 7 лет назад
Don't worry next year I will help you be Samus from Metroid. That should fix everything. :)
@m.m.2897
@m.m.2897 7 лет назад
I didn't hear her voice before Halloween, and it was the Halloween before Episode 7 came out. I only saw the screenshots, and thought it looked really cool. Well, you know how it turned out, now.
@jonnybatty7763
@jonnybatty7763 7 лет назад
Cynda Stuff halloween is ment to be Scarry not a star wars storm trooper who is chrome
@TheGeekKeenan
@TheGeekKeenan 7 лет назад
Could be true. But it would be cooler to see her as just a villain.
@dawn-marieoneil9126
@dawn-marieoneil9126 6 лет назад
The Geek Keenan i
@theexperiencednoob7360
@theexperiencednoob7360 6 лет назад
I think it is better for her to be a good guy in discise because other whise she is just a lame Captain who dose nothink intresting at all
@dbhighlights6969
@dbhighlights6969 6 лет назад
The Geek Keenan ii
@DaniDeFig
@DaniDeFig 7 лет назад
Hmmm... I am less convinced that she's an undercover agent for the Resistance, but this whole video has made me think that Captain Phasma might be working for Supreme Leader Snoke DIRECTLY. Like Mara Jade (back in the good ol' days of SW EU), Captain Phasma could be a deep undercover agent, but not for the purpose of betrayal, but rather keeping an eye on Kylo Ren (and other poeple withing the order who hold power). Asking Kylo Ren about the villagers? Checking if he has truly committed himself to the Dark Side. Lowering the shields of Starkiller base? Snoke might have decided that he wanted to get rid of it for some reason (it WOULD be sort of worrying to have underlings you may not entirely trust, have control over a planet killer). It would fit well with the naturally paranoid outlook most Sith have about their allies. The Rule of Two might seems stupid at first glance (why limit yourself to just two people, and why have a cycle of teaching and betrayal?), but it was the best way for the Sith to stop themselves from wiping themselves out.
@letthatsinkin4913
@letthatsinkin4913 7 лет назад
Yeah that's likely
@onyxtay7246
@onyxtay7246 7 лет назад
So you've just gotten me thinking. What if Phasma is Ren's apprentice? She could have helped Finn get Poe out because he might lead them to the map, and when they went to capture it Ren caught someone powerful in the force, so losing his current student wouldn't be all that bad, especially with how good his new one would be, an apprentice tends to be perfectly willing to abandon the new sith to die if it's advantageous, and Ren likely weakened his master by ruining plans that must have taken quite a bit of work. What if Phasma is really just a part of a master plan by Ren that weakens his master, while gaining greater control of the First Order? She's obviously a very important person in the military.
@pepckat
@pepckat 7 лет назад
DaniDeFig ah the good old eu where Disney didn't spit on Lucas and said that we will change everything your franchise lead up to
@wildbuffalo8838
@wildbuffalo8838 7 лет назад
I agree. She may be a agent observing Kylo and Hux. During their bickering she is like Colonel Yularen in the Death Star Conference scene. Just observing without a word to report it. I doubt she is a Republic Agent or a Resistance Agent. Regarding his first point. You would need orders to eliminate everyone, she asks because they have been captured and she was not ordered to kill them yet.
@unclubbableplus
@unclubbableplus 4 года назад
Well, there was a spy, it just wasn't Phasma.
@theindiediary5950
@theindiediary5950 7 лет назад
Has nobody, and I mean NOBODY.............done even a half arsed internet search on this? Just me? Captain Phasma is a character idea taken from an amateur writers star wars fan fiction called 'Tarkins Fist'. Captain Phasma is the daughter of Grand Moff Tarkin. She has beef with Luke Skywalker, as he killed her father. The actual fan fiction is quite good. And the author was rewarded a small fee for his character idea.
@V_Cerra
@V_Cerra 7 лет назад
Mojo Reanimated who's the father since everone here is saying that her father (or grandfather) is boba fett? which looks interesting.
@Cesarhbb.
@Cesarhbb. 6 лет назад
If the fic ain't on the first google page then it don't exist
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
Even if this fic exists, it's not canonical, and is therefor inadmissible in internet arguments.
@Dagger-vg9md
@Dagger-vg9md 7 лет назад
Vintress was the first female Star Wars villain
@potterpal5
@potterpal5 7 лет назад
He meant in a Star Wars movie. (The Clone Wars movie was a pilot to the TV show, not a Star Wars Episode.
@logansmith7517
@logansmith7517 7 лет назад
Reece Garrett Sam Wessel tho
@Wrythley
@Wrythley 7 лет назад
Zam Wesell, not Sam Wessel.
@Nobody-wg7xc
@Nobody-wg7xc 7 лет назад
Logan Smith *Zam Wessel
@imagaintwonkabar4384
@imagaintwonkabar4384 7 лет назад
Reece Garrett he said live action
@theredhitman3779
@theredhitman3779 7 лет назад
Captain Phasma is obviously Rey's father.
@coennhine5964
@coennhine5964 7 лет назад
Theredhitman Captain Phasma is a girl.
@theredhitman3779
@theredhitman3779 7 лет назад
Or is she?
@theshenanigators7692
@theshenanigators7692 7 лет назад
Inferno Gaming did you just assume her gender 🙀🙀🙀🙀
@d.lan3y
@d.lan3y 7 лет назад
Theredhitman captain phasma is a woman. women can't be fathers.
@edgarjacobo1050
@edgarjacobo1050 7 лет назад
Rowynn Shiflet yes they can
@madlucian4623
@madlucian4623 7 лет назад
but hey that's just a theory A FILM THEORY thanks for watching.........quote from a wise man
@logansmith7517
@logansmith7517 7 лет назад
orio jules But hey, that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY. Thanks for watching.
@Marylandbrony
@Marylandbrony 7 лет назад
But hey that's just a theory A retarded theory, thanks for giving me your time and thus me money.
@CalebRichardsChannel
@CalebRichardsChannel 7 лет назад
AAAAAAND CUT!
@dippin4dots
@dippin4dots 7 лет назад
Marylandbrony that's all youtubers idiot its still a job.
@EVA-UNIT-13
@EVA-UNIT-13 7 лет назад
orio jules lol ye
@swaggerdagger9960
@swaggerdagger9960 7 лет назад
Boba fett is captain phasma's dad that is why they are making a boba fett movie
@lightfalcon1
@lightfalcon1 6 лет назад
+Master Yoda No wonder you didn't know they're making a Boba Fett movie. Because you're dead lol. this was not meant to be a mean/hate comment just wanted to point out that yoda died
@agentnuka
@agentnuka 6 лет назад
Nope she’s not. Boba is a clone.
@caydenmongolo7187
@caydenmongolo7187 6 лет назад
Ummmm no they are not they called it off
@sweetgrasscity6909
@sweetgrasscity6909 6 лет назад
He is not her dad. She killed her father on the post apocalyptic world of parannos. No one on the planet had ever been off planet
@motherketchum9771
@motherketchum9771 6 лет назад
there not making a boba fett movie there making a Han Solo movie
@321paracord
@321paracord 4 года назад
In the book Jay quoted, Captain Phasma doesn’t really care about her allegiance. The book makes it quite clear that she only cares about surviving, even to the extent to cut off her own brother’s leg. Phasma can switch sides instantaneously to remain with the winning side. While the books aren’t as reliable as the movies, the book was well written and fun to read. I highly recommend it!
@All3ofus
@All3ofus 7 лет назад
I think phasma is just like any other storm trooper but with better aim
@Ampwich
@Ampwich 7 лет назад
1. These are First Order stormtroopers, not Imperial. 2. That stereotype doesn't make sense. Leia outright says in the movie that they let them get away to track them to the rebel base. Battle droids are the terrible shots lol.
@obrgrs2547
@obrgrs2547 7 лет назад
M1stero6awsome read the book "phasma" it prooves you wrong
@CharlieDB96
@CharlieDB96 7 лет назад
I like this theory. It's a good theory; however, I'm afraid it is the quality of this theory that confirms it won't be real. This is just too clever and too "in the background" of the main plot to have been considered. Remember MatPat's *"Rogue One" crew becomes the Knights of Ren"* theory? Yea. Great idea, that didn't happen because it's too obscure. The thinking behind it isn't straightforward therefore it doesn't happen. (Like for example the fact that Rey will probably end up being related to Obi-Wan somehow) It kind of irks me how the entirety of the Star Wars story revolves around like 2 families..
@milboxr9772
@milboxr9772 7 лет назад
Bajur's Carl I feel like the rogue one crew being the knights of ren didnt happen since it was more obvious than obscure
@shadowhunter240
@shadowhunter240 7 лет назад
Bajur's Carl eyyyyyy! Film/game theory fan, fancy to meet you there
@milboxr9772
@milboxr9772 7 лет назад
ShadowHunter theres like millions of fans of him its not very rare nowadays
@shadowhunter240
@shadowhunter240 7 лет назад
Milbox R yeah but still
@ender7278
@ender7278 7 лет назад
The difference is, this theory is not bad, whereas MatPat's RO theory was just plain stupid (like most of his other theories).
@pentadeuce1086
@pentadeuce1086 7 лет назад
I think Phasma being an undercover rebel would be AWESOME!!! Please let that be the case.
@lhickey2930
@lhickey2930 6 лет назад
Annnnddd if you've seen the Last Jedi (slight spoiler) Finn holding a gun to her head would not necessarily be a threat- due to that nice display of her amours strength when Rose shoots her and the bullet literally just pings off to the side.
@scottletourneau4571
@scottletourneau4571 8 месяцев назад
As much as I love the “Do anything to survive” character from the books and comics, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for this fan theory. I wonder what it could have meant for Phasma in another time. Love you, Super Carlin Brothers!
@pokenaut7803
@pokenaut7803 7 лет назад
I don't think she is with the resistance. I think she just doesn't believe in the first order.
@onyxtay7246
@onyxtay7246 7 лет назад
Yeah. She could be trying to keep them powerful enough to do good, (have a stable economy, keep their own planets safe, and people alive) but unable to destroy entire planets.
@edwardhuntington389
@edwardhuntington389 7 лет назад
Zam Wessell was the first female Star Wars villain
@Evan-yz7sf
@Evan-yz7sf 7 лет назад
If you consider her native species of "shapeshifters" to have genders. Her human form is female though
@edwardhuntington389
@edwardhuntington389 7 лет назад
Evan Helms she is always referred to as a "she." Anakin even says as much: "I think he's a she. And I think she's a changeling." So even in-universe, shape-shifters have genders.
@1dareu2mov3
@1dareu2mov3 7 лет назад
+Edward Huntington True, but Zam was even more minor of a character than Phasma.
@ThisToxicX
@ThisToxicX 7 лет назад
Edward Huntington and ventress is the 2nd female villan
@logansmith7517
@logansmith7517 7 лет назад
Edward Huntington She was the first time a female played a role that opposed the protagonists, but I would consider her to be central enough to the film to be a "villain"
@zacharythompson9755
@zacharythompson9755 7 лет назад
Me: UGH This day is boring and/or awful Phone: DING! Me: Oh, Super Carlin Brothers uploaded a video! Me 10 minutes later: Yay! This is the best day ever!
@AnonNonaA
@AnonNonaA 4 года назад
I really wish this theory was true. That would’ve been 100x better than *spoiler for the rise of Skywalker, you have been warned* General Hux being the spy just bc Kylo Ren made him angry. She was definitely a wasted character.
@hethwilliams2810
@hethwilliams2810 6 лет назад
I really like this idea, though if she were working for the resistance then Leia would have told them that Phasma is on their side and to get her out safe. I think that given how the stormtroopers are taken as children and Leia was unaware of Phasma's loyalties, Phasma had maybe had a similar experience to Finn. Instead of running away however, she decided to stay and fight it from within, undermining the first order when she can.
@schnibba1234
@schnibba1234 7 лет назад
YOU CHANGED MY EVERYTHING
@finalfantasy7freak664
@finalfantasy7freak664 7 лет назад
Gollwerfürst I KNOW RIGHT
@mohamedmosam
@mohamedmosam 7 лет назад
nice video man! you should do a video about the old man who gives the map to poe or about why lando calrisian wasn't in episode 7
@vinq8621
@vinq8621 7 лет назад
Phasma's quote from the book made me realize- what if Snoke's will was to have the Starkiller base destroyed? I mean, in order to rally the troops and enrage them further to quell the Resistance. He doesn't care for how many stormtrooper lives are lost, Hux- a general- made it out alive. And nothing make an oppressive intergalactic force angrier than the loss of a giant super weapon, when it happened to the Empire they literally 'Stuck Back'. And maybe it would help Snoke encourage some more darkside hatred in Kylo Ren. Kylo is very young, and the base was likely the first 'big' thing he has been a part of- something that he has done, and it being destroyed is something to get angry about. This is kind of a "9/11 was an inside job" thing but I just realized it
@vinq8621
@vinq8621 7 лет назад
I know that losing such a giant tool is very detrimental from most positions, but Snoke *could* have a larger plan and money/resources to back up such a gamble.
@CalebSpears1
@CalebSpears1 7 лет назад
Vince Lombardi that would be A LOT of time, money, and resources to lose just to rally the troops in a war you're winning
@brianmccann666
@brianmccann666 7 лет назад
Kylo Ren is not "young" he is suppose to be around 26-30 in SWtFA...
@aidenmohrmann1850
@aidenmohrmann1850 7 лет назад
When you say "or is she?" The feeling I got was when I'm watching a movie and a big twist or spoiler is revealed. Way to go keep up the StarWars theories I love them!
@emilymajors8202
@emilymajors8202 7 лет назад
Phasma could be Rey's mother and she had to give her up in order to go undercover because she knew it would take awhile before she could be important enough for Kylo Ren to notice her and didnt want anyone to be suspicious of Rey so she never told the Father she also had a feeling that Fin and Poe would somehow get to Rey so she let them go
@bigbruh126
@bigbruh126 7 лет назад
OK... going off of what he said... what if Phasma is Rey's mom? Wait for it... hear me out... it's kind of like Rogue One, where she keeps getting hunted down by the First Order because she *knows* Luke (wink wink nudge nudge) so she puts her child on Jakku and goes undercover in the Empire after revealing... wait for it... the identity of the man carrying the map to Luke, her old husband/lover. Ehh? Good or not? leave thoughts below
@LtBasil
@LtBasil 7 лет назад
One issue with that; genetics. Considering who Phasma's played by, both she and Luke would have blonde hair and blue eyes. Rey has brown hair and brown eyes. It's not impossible to get a brown-haired, brown-eyed kid from a blonde-haired, blue-eyed couple, but it isn't very common either. Maybe they could fix that with hair dye and color contacts, and I suppose it's possible that Rey could have been born with blonde hair and then it darkened… but still.
@generalgrievous4341
@generalgrievous4341 7 лет назад
Random2013Meme jpg And who’s to say Luke is Rey’s father? Who’s to say anybody is anybody’s father? Throughout the entire franchise, one movie has had a twist like this. Enough of this, internet.
@MentalMagicYT
@MentalMagicYT 7 лет назад
Anonymouslydone agree
@mklamklamkla
@mklamklamkla 7 лет назад
Plot twist: Captain Phasma is Rey's mum.
@Antiganos
@Antiganos 7 лет назад
the force isn't hereditary
@leimogalbraith1817
@leimogalbraith1817 7 лет назад
PEEEEWWWWWDIEPIE
@CantKnockNokk
@CantKnockNokk 7 лет назад
She lived it shows it in lego Star Wars The Force Awakens
@CantKnockNokk
@CantKnockNokk 7 лет назад
Spoilers
@traxon6964
@traxon6964 6 лет назад
He already said she is not dead
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
While you were correct, the media you are referring to is Not Canon and thus inadmissible in internet debates.
@hritvidave1497
@hritvidave1497 7 лет назад
I always thought it was obvious Phasma survived the blowup. Also, my friend and I came up with a theory last year that Captain Phasma is Rey's mother. Is there any evidence against that?
@BallerDan53
@BallerDan53 4 года назад
You raised some great questions back in 2017. Unfortunately, the answer to all of them was 'stop over thinking things, manbaby'. She could have been such a great character. RIP Star Wars 😢
@prismking3282
@prismking3282 7 лет назад
Actually, the first star wars moie with a female villain is the clone wars movie
@logansmith7517
@logansmith7517 7 лет назад
Prism King Actually, what about Sam Wessel?
@prismking3282
@prismking3282 7 лет назад
Logan Smith YOUR RIGHT, tbh i forgot about her even though she was my brother's favorite character when we were kids
@imagaintwonkabar4384
@imagaintwonkabar4384 7 лет назад
Logan Smith first it's Sam wessel and second she's a shapeshifter for technically not a she and also Zane was a bounty hunter so neither villain or hero and about this vintress he said live action
@clipcentral03
@clipcentral03 7 лет назад
Prism King no actually episode 2 Zam Wassel
@beowulfofgeat
@beowulfofgeat 5 лет назад
I REALLY hope that's true! PS: CarlinBros ROCK!
@lindaw4579
@lindaw4579 7 лет назад
Do you think Captain Phasma is Rey's mother? Phasma and Luke could have hooked up and later split up with Luke going into exile and Phasma going undercover.
@StormDogg
@StormDogg 7 лет назад
She's way too ugly to be matched up with Luke. Suspension of disbelief has its limits.
@AmatoGore
@AmatoGore 7 лет назад
maybe they only used the actress tallness but using another actress face who more attractive for phasma.
@SEReid-rz5bm
@SEReid-rz5bm 7 лет назад
I'm with you on this one, Linda. Let's see if we're right. :D
@UnapologeticallyUSA
@UnapologeticallyUSA 7 лет назад
OK, I have to comment here just because…. So you are saying that Gwendoline Christie(in the face) is too ugly to hook up with Mark Hamill? Ok I get it, Luke can use the “Jedi mind trick” to get any chick he wants, especially hot dumb blonds, but I take issue with your suggestion that Gwendolin Christie isn’t “attractive”. Look at this link: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/04/gwendoline-christie-hunger-games_n_5093298.html That is the face of the woman that’s too ugly to hook up with Mark Hamill? Second point… Let’s do some basic math. Gwendolin Christie (CPT Phasma), age 38, assuming she hooked up with Mark Hamill (Luke) , age 65 in the middle of December 1991 in order to have Daisy Ridley (Rey), age 25, in September of 1992. CPT Phasma would have been 13 years old and Luke 40. I don’t care what universe you are in that’s icky.
@vchasxxx2942
@vchasxxx2942 7 лет назад
that could actually make sense
@aaronlewis4166
@aaronlewis4166 8 месяцев назад
I believe that phasma was Kira or how ever you spell it and that Rian johnson thwarted jj's attempt at connecting his vision by eliminating her from the story.
@disneydreamer5137
@disneydreamer5137 7 лет назад
I have a theory/prediction for Toy Story 4: In Toy story 2 right after the song about Jesse and Emily when Woody tries to go through the vent, Stinky Pete asks Woody, Do you really think Andy is going to take you to college, or one his honeymoon?. So, since Toy Story 3 was about Andy going to college, Andy could get married in Toy Story 4 and since Bonnie is obviously a family friend she will be at the wedding and bring the toys. Like so they will see this and say if they agree!!
@moondoor9031
@moondoor9031 7 лет назад
Stars Wars is like One Piece, it will never ends.
@brandonmyers1876
@brandonmyers1876 7 лет назад
Before watching. I'm guessing her name is Phasma Fett.
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
She doesn't have a last name. Like Madonna.
@unitama9007
@unitama9007 7 лет назад
Hmmm, excuses for bad film making if you ask me. Sorry guys.
@spartankittygames
@spartankittygames 7 лет назад
Thom Bomers yeah it's a cool video but its just bad writing.
@unitama9007
@unitama9007 7 лет назад
spartan kitty games Yep, that's what I meant. I just don't really like force awakens, it's a bad movie. imo. Still enjoyed this video tho
@logansmith7517
@logansmith7517 7 лет назад
Thom Bomers could be, but if they justify it, it could be all better. I mean, they justified that huge weakness in Episode IV in Rogue One, and I think the overall universe is better for it.
@mollychankawaii
@mollychankawaii 7 лет назад
I love this theory so much! ♡ Hope to see Phasma making an epic return regardless of whether she's a good or an evil character.
@none12368
@none12368 5 лет назад
Would be cool if it was true but if the book "Phasma" is anything to go off of then she was only trying to save her own skin. Not loyal to the either side other than her own survival. But that's of course book canon involving her backstory vs movie canon where we see her present day actions and no real backstory shown.
@MrHowwitser2
@MrHowwitser2 7 лет назад
I think it was just poor writing on the writers part to not use the character more or to make her dumb...just my guess
@sketchetch8899
@sketchetch8899 7 лет назад
I thought phasma was a robot.
@amladay237
@amladay237 7 лет назад
can you guys do a video on mirage (from incredibles)
@marissadupoy929
@marissadupoy929 7 лет назад
I love that the book, 'Star Wars; Before The Awakening', is sitting right next to me as I watch
@Firelord91021
@Firelord91021 4 года назад
I remember thinking to myself the other day, captian phasma would have been much cooler if this theory was true and today it pops up in my recommended. Literally every character in the sequels was wasted in my opinion.
@arwenlua2762
@arwenlua2762 7 лет назад
I hope she's evil. She was my favourite TFA character.
@arwenlua2762
@arwenlua2762 7 лет назад
Although your theory (as they always do) makes total sense, so my hopes aren't very high.
@someguy9496
@someguy9496 7 лет назад
Arwen Lua his theory is far fetched and ur stupid for her being ur fav
@Christolclear101
@Christolclear101 7 лет назад
My favorites FN-2199 (TR-8R), who all's on screen for less than a minute, and he has more personality than Phasma does in the whole movie.
@arwenlua2762
@arwenlua2762 7 лет назад
Assassin of comedy His theory makes perfect sense, and you're rude for calling other people's OPINION stupid.
@arwenlua2762
@arwenlua2762 7 лет назад
Christolclear101 What? All he did was shout "TRAITOR"
@camk8856
@camk8856 7 лет назад
i know this is random and not on topic but wouldn't be cool to have a star wars dynasty game
@WingoEthan
@WingoEthan 7 лет назад
Yup.
@harlemhustla145
@harlemhustla145 7 лет назад
only if its done like SWTOR
@patrickramseyart
@patrickramseyart 7 лет назад
As in, like, Dynasty Warriors? That would be cool. Star Wars Warriors Star Warriors Star Wars....iors Lord of the Rings is my personal most wanted Dynasty Warriors spin-off (now that Fire Emblem Warriors is confirmed to be happening), but Star Wars would be great, too!
@eror5341
@eror5341 6 лет назад
Captain Phasma dies.:l.RIP Cap Phasma 2015-2017
@savageopress8153
@savageopress8153 3 года назад
f
@idunnobutyay2520
@idunnobutyay2520 4 года назад
What makes me sad is that Gwendoline was so excited to portray Phasma, and her character was literally thrown away. Well, the silver lady lives on in my headcanons.
@christianmarshal6117
@christianmarshal6117 7 лет назад
The theory makes sense, nice work. I had no doubts that she was still alive. Movies often try to make it crystal clear, when a character that is shown in multiple scenes dies. You see Jaba the Hutt strangled and stop breathing, same deal Darth Vader, Yoda and Obi Wan both disappear into thin air after surrendering to death. Obi Wan closes his eyes and let's Vader kill him, and Yoda says it's his time and lays down to sleep, 'forever sleep'. The Emporer falls down a giant shaft and then explodes. The General aboard the Death Star isn't shown dying but he's in the middle Death Star, counting down the seconds before the Death Star fired which we know it never got a chance to and he wasn't even attempting to escape so yeah we know he's dead. Much more often then the death is not certain only 'heavily implied' you can be sure they're coming back. We don't actually see Phasma die. We don't know what happened when she was tossed into the compactor. It would have been a good idea for someone to invent some sort of automatic shutdown code for the inside of the trash compactor in case of accidents especially since we know go a fact they have experience with people almost killed in a trash compactor as mentioned in this very video. So if there were such a device she could have used it, walked out of the trash compactor and been completely free to head to the escape pods once she realized the base was breaking apart. I'm not sure whether she's a double agent or not but she does give me a redeemable villain type of vibe. The type of bad guy who doesn't really want to be a bad guy but feels like he/she has no way out. We'll see what happens.
@Alfercruz
@Alfercruz 7 лет назад
she is not a good guy, she is a bad written villain
@Kilory-Star_Wars
@Kilory-Star_Wars 7 лет назад
"Bad-written"? You don't know where the "bad" writing will go yet apart from hate-comment-congested comment sections.
@JoshEssex
@JoshEssex 7 лет назад
This would make it cooler, but I honestly don't think thats what they are and will be going for. I think its just a dumb flaw of the movie (which I really liked, but every movie has flaws)
@bouncinggamer4654
@bouncinggamer4654 7 лет назад
i subscribed
@bromodragone8405
@bromodragone8405 4 года назад
Unlike Boba Fett and Maul, Phasma does die.
@coolryanfilms7396
@coolryanfilms7396 7 лет назад
I just wanted to say hey brother! I'm a huge fan and keep up the good work
@fanfusion4276
@fanfusion4276 7 лет назад
So she's like Agent Kalas (Spelling?)?
@aphmaufan3801
@aphmaufan3801 7 лет назад
Wait..who is the old man in the beginning..... AWW MAN I DONT KNOW
@beholdthejuice
@beholdthejuice 6 лет назад
Lor San Tekka
@mrblagabah3818
@mrblagabah3818 6 лет назад
The old man Is called lor san Teka
@Exarathas
@Exarathas 6 лет назад
Damn, how wrong you were.
@grimes558
@grimes558 6 лет назад
How wrong your PFP is.
@Camish_and_the_oc_gang
@Camish_and_the_oc_gang 6 лет назад
I don’t think she’s working FOR the resistance, but she is against the first order. She’s acting on her own to help the people who can get stuff done, but need help from the inside. If they knew she was good then there would have been a way for her cover to be blown, but if it’s only her that knows her level of value could be INFINITE
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
Nope, she's actually just purely in it for her own self-interest (citation: the canon novel _Phasma_ )
@reedagan7711
@reedagan7711 6 лет назад
I watched a bunch of your theories and so I was watching the force awakens and saw this and watched it
@vinnydaskinny7793
@vinnydaskinny7793 7 лет назад
man i was litterly searching for this theroy i though of it like the same day you posted this video. she is a fulcrum agent for the resistance. her armor is made out of darth sidious naboo star cruiser. she could take a blaster bolt no problem it would litterly just bounce off. she know fin cant hurt her and still helps them. she is just like the officer in rebels it is cannon that deep seeded rebel agents exsist. she served as a loyal unit to the fromer empire and saw the evil of the sith. so she used her former status to infiltrate the new first order. snoke is suspicious and doesnt trust her so even though she is equal to kylo and huxly she is not allowed the same authority. it all makes perfect sense. also stay outta my head i i so thought of this first lol. jk
@sweetgrasscity6909
@sweetgrasscity6909 6 лет назад
Yea, she made the armor herself on parannos, where it crashed.
@quandaledingle3571
@quandaledingle3571 4 года назад
THEROY JENKINSSSS
@benedekboda4634
@benedekboda4634 7 лет назад
Hi
@benedekboda4634
@benedekboda4634 7 лет назад
Moozie thx
@benedekboda4634
@benedekboda4634 7 лет назад
Yay! I was first!!!
@RIN-ud9kd
@RIN-ud9kd 7 лет назад
I agree with this!
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 5 лет назад
Well you're wrong!
@rubyyro
@rubyyro 6 лет назад
Watching this after seeing The Last Jedi, and reading both the Phasma comic and book is actually pretty interesting. Especially considering she (spoilers for the book sorta...?) is revealed to basically be crazy enough/strong enough that she could take down the First Order if she wanted too, or at least one of the characters in the book thinks she is. It's so heavily implied (and said) that Phasma is a survivor (what with her surviving Starkiller Base and several things that happen in her novel) so I honestly believe if she no longer saw the First Order as a means of survival for herself she could be the help the Resistance needs in taking it down. But shes definitely not working for or with the Resistance.
@Triattt
@Triattt 7 лет назад
Don't know this channel. But there's a Nightvale painting on the wall. You got my attention
@mr.nugget1036
@mr.nugget1036 7 лет назад
Under 1000 views club! ( sorry nice video though! )
@raynjohnson9354
@raynjohnson9354 7 лет назад
Mr.Nugget 313 1001st T_T
@franciscofuentes6209
@franciscofuentes6209 7 лет назад
What is it that the Separatists/Empire/First Order have to do with killing stars?? The star DESTROYER, the DEATH star, star-KILLER base? O-O theory??
@Panzer-535
@Panzer-535 7 лет назад
unlike the other two names, Star Destroyer is type of ship, not name/description of weapon. in the real world, a destroyer is an armored warship. because star wars is set in space, space-going armor warships are star Destroyers.
@HopScopCo
@HopScopCo 7 лет назад
It should also be noted that the Republic used star destroyers. The capital ships seen in Episode III were called Venator-class Star Destroyers. It was the dagger like shape of the ship that determined if they were star destroyers.
@richiemanuta9345
@richiemanuta9345 7 лет назад
Brainiacz1o1 😂😂😂😂
@OndPotet
@OndPotet 7 лет назад
this doesent give any sense but cool theory i enjoyed it like if you think this is right
@michaelberger6850
@michaelberger6850 7 лет назад
YOUR GRAMMAR SUCKS
@lukewagstaff4204
@lukewagstaff4204 7 лет назад
You don't make any sense.
@Thatgirlcodes
@Thatgirlcodes 7 лет назад
^^^ literally no sense unless English isn’t your first language
@ForeverLumoz
@ForeverLumoz 6 лет назад
Alyssa Brown makes no sense even if English isn't the native language.
@seashantieshelp1946
@seashantieshelp1946 7 лет назад
Supercarlinbrothers, I have a conspiracy of my own! That you two aren't brothers, you are JOHN CENA
@toddfox1559
@toddfox1559 7 лет назад
I never thought of it that way. You make some very good valid points
@randyxinensis4035
@randyxinensis4035 7 лет назад
Is Phasma Rei's mom? I mean, she has the accent...
@Spectralyzed
@Spectralyzed 7 лет назад
King Of Random "Rey" not "Rei"
@caydenmongolo7187
@caydenmongolo7187 6 лет назад
Who would be the father could it be Midiclorians
@nicklong4995
@nicklong4995 6 лет назад
King Of Random and u dont know how to spell
@fantasticmadness8935
@fantasticmadness8935 6 лет назад
Cj Plays or 'I forget his name, haven't seen ep8' Han? Hen? Hin? the imperial guard that is the punchline for most of the jokes.
@chhitizmaskey2591
@chhitizmaskey2591 6 лет назад
King Of Random not really
@etwas013
@etwas013 7 лет назад
A plausible turn of events. Good analysis.
@aitchay2084
@aitchay2084 7 лет назад
Agent Kallus from Star Wars Rebels is another good example of this.
@gamesafoot8361
@gamesafoot8361 4 года назад
Now hux
@scottsevert
@scottsevert 7 лет назад
After reading the Phasma book I am sure that her loyalties are only to herself. She probably saw the destruction of Starkiller base as a way for her to kill her superiors & thus promote herself. She was the first to know that the base was in danger since she lowered the shield so she would have plenty of time to escape the trash compactor & get to her ship.
@ChAnimations
@ChAnimations 7 лет назад
Your theory makes sense and it also explains, why Captain Phasma was not the one to fight against Finn wielding the lightsaber, because she would have been killed there and would not have wanted to kill Finn
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