It’s so cool how Jack can somehow manage to squeeze “and make Pete choke on them” into the sentence “Go pick flowers” by simply using his tone of speech.
Being a parent, in general, has this unspoken law, see kid all those times your parents act weird, out of touch, etc... they're doing it on purpose! And when you're a parent you will do the same to your kids thus continuing the glorious radiation.
@@janablahova1491 and at this point, he knew he knew he had nothing to lose, so whatever reservations he might have had due to the frat regs went straight outtakes the window. Love Jacob!
and even funnier is that the creators of this universe confirmed that Jack and Sam are together and even in the official legacy book series, set after Atlantis, Sam confirms it to Shepard!!!
I seriously have a head canon of this that Selmak is just perched in Jacob's mind cackling like a madwoman throughout the whole scene, and Jacob just mentally tells her to hush because he's just trying to help, because they both totes ship Sam/Jack.
@@KieranMullen Selmack identify as a women. And it's not some transgender statement here, they literaly said in one episode that goa'uld are pretty much agender and just pick if they prefere to be refered as "he" or "her". Selmack always prefered to be refered as "her" and ended up in a male cause there were no other choice avalaible ^^
Love this scene. The acting is perfect. Sam's look at her dad is so good. Jacob's words - also so good. And, Jack - ah he has just the right expressions and words - "go pick flowers" as if he doesn't care but we all know that he is deeply hurt that Sam is supposed to be marrying Pete. By the way, no matter what, I hate Pete in Stargate. And like everyone, I want Sam and Jack to be together permanently! sigh. The scene has much Sam and Jack angst. Thanks for posting.
Yeah, Sam and Jack would have been phenomenal together. But we all knew that this was never to happen. It would have meant that one of them had to give up their career. That was something neither of them could or would ever do. And with Jack out of the picture as the impossible dream, I thought Pete was a good choice to fill the void for Sam. I actually liked him. So sorry for him that in the end, it just didn't happen.
Omg 😳😍 I love how Teal’c is saying “common enemy” as we get a shot of Jack’s face. It’s like he’s thinking about how to kill Pete and make it look like an accident!!
Amanda (as Cpt. Sam Carter) does an amazing impression of the "Dad, you embarrass me and make me feel uncomfortable" look. It suggests that she's had a lot of practice with that look in RL. That look immediately blew the whistle on her feelings; from that moment, I felt sorry for Pete Shanahan, because I just knew that she was having second thoughts about the wedding.
Honestly, the Sam/Jack relationship has been a testament to the phrase "If you truly love someone, let it go." It's rather beautiful that neither was willing to let the other sacrifice their decorated careers for them so that kinda put them into a stalemate until finally they just decided to go separate ways, acknowledging their own feelings yet also acknowledging they simply couldn't be together due to the rules of their occupation (Military regs are very strict on fraternization). Jack didn't want to see Carter sacrifice her career as a decorated soldier and gifted astrophysicist, Sam didn't want Jack to sacrifice his own decorated career and they knew it would hurt the relationship if they sacrificed their own career for the other too.
I agree with KitCatch22, I think "Selmak is just perched in Jacob's mind cackling like a madwoman throughout the whole scene, and Jacob just mentally tells her to hush because he's just trying to help, because they both totes ship Sam/Jack."
@@WillemLawyer i forgot that his previous host (being the old woman) said that Salmak had her laughing to herself so much. Its also kinda funny how in that episode they said that Salmac is the oldest and wisest of the Tok'Ra then when he is with Jacob start pushing him further and further away because he is too lose to humanity, ignoring his warning and advice and purposely sending him on missions that dont involve Earth
Haha, I just adore this scene! Great acting all around and I love the little bits that all of the actors put in here: Jacob's little pull on his tunic, the way Jack's eyebrows raise at the mention of Sam's wedding, poor Sam's embarrassment, that terribly angsty smile has Jack leaves the room! SO sad! Thanks for posting! I love all your Jack/Sam clips. ~Jess :)
HijaDelMar6 He so did that on purpose lol You could tell he hated the idea of Pete, or well who didn't hate Pete, and was trying to shove Jack and her together lmao
FreeSpirit999 I do feel that hating on Pete is unfair, though. Pete did nothing wrong. He was a good guy in love with Sam.. who just happened to never have been her first choice. If I hated anything during this stretch of the series, it was Sam's choices and bad calls, how she deceived and ''played'' Pete, Jack and herself in trying to convince herself she could settle for and be happy with ''second best''.. and for digging that hole for herself. And then of course Jack, despite his noble intention, so wasn't helping. So they needed people like Jacob who saw through it all, rooted for them being together and ''subtly'' let it be known.. ;) But, yeah, Jacob obviously rooted for Jack, and I in turn can't help but root for Jacob. :) Daddy did know best on that one.. ;)
HijaDelMar6 that is true Pete didn't do anything wrong. I didn't really put that thought into, so thank you for helping me see the other side of the coin. That being said I did find his character really annoying, I think it's how the actor was playing him, idk I just found the character kinda corny. Hard to explain. What did you mean by Jack wasn't helping any? Haha yeah and Jacob was only trying to push Sam in the right direction like "kiddo I love you, but you're not thinking straight. You know who you love, and who you don't. If you aren't going to push yourself then I'm going to give you the nudges you need" lol You could feel the good vibes he had for Jack when they first met at the medal ceremony, and when he first met Pete he was like "who the f**k is this lil shit? Are you kidding me?" was the looks I was thinking of when he made them lol I do kinda feel sorry for Pete in someway I guess. poor dude never stood a chance. How could he...look at Jack...that man has it all ;)
:) Pete provided Sam with an excuse, but she's still the one who used it.. ;) I do agree on still finding him a little annoying. Some of that is merely for the very shallow reason that, I mean, come on, look at Jack, and look at Pete.. I mean, really, he's supposed to serve as believable ''competition''?.. ;P Like you said, Jack ''has it all''.. while still being very much himself. Pete to me came across like that kind of person who works really hard to have it all ''on paper'', but lacks that authenticity that makes a guy like Jack so one of a kind.. And then Pete was always a little.. pushy. Trying to take charge too much, going too fast, these sort of things. Me, such people scare me away ;), but he's still not a ''bad guy''.. For Jack, I meant he wasn't helping his cause. He was trying to be noble and respectful of Sam's choices, not getting in the way of her trying to be happy with Pete.. but we know (from episodes like ''Grace''.. or just from being women too.. ;) ) that Sam would have much prefered for him to grow balls and ''claim'' her, to tell her straight out ''I don't want you to be with that guy, I want you to be with me.'' All this time I think all she needed was that little extra push, that little extra confirmation that he indeed wanted to be with her as much as she wanted to be with him.. but she wasn't quite certain enough.. and Jack didn't help when he failed to come in between her and Pete.. But, yeah, Jacob was quite priceless in all his Sam/Pete scenes. Like when Pete meets him and says ''dad?'' after Sam introduces them and Jacob immediately goes ''Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hold your horses there, kid. You don't get to call me that just yet (or never, for that matter)!.. '' Kind of sad they had him die just when we were discovering this more human, funnier side to him.. ;)
HijaDelMar6 ok I'm really starting to get on the same page with you now lol I had a lot of the same feelings. That scene where they hug after Jack gets hit, supposedly according to Amanda, her and Jack were supposed to kiss instead of hug but they both mutually agreed that it was better for them to hug....you have no idea how badly i was screaming at my TV all these years everytime there was romantic tension. That I feel could have been the moment that Jack could have broke the cycle because I think by that point Sam kinda had all the pushing she needed, and Jack could have done the whole manly thing of claiming. There again tho I agree, Sam needed to figure this out on her own, she didn't need Jack to make things more complicated and he realized that too. Playing it cool while she did her thing. and probably praying that somehow it would work out in his favor, Jack made himself again the better man. Pete was way pushy, reminded me of myself when I was younger I think that's where the disgust came in for the character lol, but he was very needy, and way too over the top "cliché" as Jack would put it. I was so hurt when they killed of Jacobs character...why would they do that. We were just starting to see his more fun loving side, and Sam and him were just now starting to reconnect. He could have also helped with the whole "air force rules blah blah here's how you get around them kiddos" and helped the two out further. I really think Jacob liked Jack for Sam in the very beginning. Maybe because he was military or because he saw the radiance coming off of Sam when she was near him, or both. I so wish at the very end they could have made it official on screen, and still had Jacob around. I adored his character, I adored all of them. I miss seeing this family on my TV screen.
This scene is brilliantly acted, as every single one in Stargate btw :D I feel so sorry for Sam. What a bad timing with the call and Pete's cause... She feels so embarrassed at the end and it's all because of her Dad. She was trying so hard to hide the cause... It is so obvious that she doesn't feel right about the wedding...
i like sams reaction in the end when she looks that accusingly at jacob and he asks "what"? jake got the picture before im pretty sure he just wanted sam to get to thinking about this whole thing when she realises that she cant even talk freely about her wedding in front of jack without feeling bad:D:D
Exactly 😂 he meddled smart and she pieced it together... eventually...just somewhere after threads. A sign from the writer even though subtle as always, came just in the next episode after threads in the beginning they are in a briefing and when sam slides over the missions file Jack touches her hand. It is very intentional, even the camera goes in to show the very important file sliding of course...not😂. And I don't know if this is just an extra detail or coincidence but he touches her left hand with his right one and back at the threads episode she uses her left hand to grab his right hand while he was being there for her.❤ they were so together after that. In beginning of season 8 she even shuts down that flirty agent again, by saying she broke up with Pete but isn't really single. And a bit later in season 9 or 10 when she is badly injured she let's Cam know about the private file on her laptop just in case she doesn't make it out alive. Told him the password is "fishing"....I mean Jack and Sam are never shown together but with all their moments and countless hints I think the writers managed to portray an exceptionally beautiful love story including an happy end. The more I think about it I come to the realization that this was actually an amazing way to tell their love story because it was all about showing the merely countless reasons and moments why they fall in love and how much they admire, respect and love each other. I think that is exactly what their special bond deserved, showing all that throughout the series instead of the cliche being together scenes everyone including me was hoping for. And in a way I think the writers even helped us imagine those parts of them too with all the alternative timeline/dimension/dream sequences where they showed just that. So it is all there. I am thankful their love story was told this way, not taking away from the main plot but instead very organically adding an incredible love so subtle but yet so beautiful it won our hearts even though we never saw the obvious.❤ Jack and Sam #always
I love Sam's look to her Dad. Soooooooo happy she never married Pete!! If only we could see Sam & Jack together. I feel bad for Jack having to go through the whole wedding thing...
It was released on the newer editions of the DVD box set (the early editions had the cut version). Also, the longer version is what Syfy had initially aired and it was later cut for syndication. Any on-line sleuthing should get you the original longer version with the "deleted scenes".
What is wrong with Pete calling her at the SGC, interrupting her work for a stupid flower problem??? But in a way, I'm glad this happened because I believe in that scene Jacob finally realizes there's something going on with her daughter and... Jack...
everyone including Carter hates Pete, if you didn't notice she uses every excuse in the book to avoid Pete including the I'm at work excuse which means I am busy so please don't call. Plus personal calls to a military base are not accepted or allowed
Raven24 Unless you’ve saved the galaxy a couple of times, then your boss gives you break. Like here, for instance. They’re meeting to discuss how to deal with a galactic superweapon amidst a delicate new galactic political paradigm, a meeting that, despite its informality, could well be one of most important meetings in the Milky Way for centuries. So O’Neill lets Carter pop off to pick flowers with her fiancé. Naturally. Best. Boss. EVER.
Wow thanks for the info! :) I'll try to find the longer version then. But by any chance do you know if the cuts included some scenes between Sam and Jack?
Jakob meddled hard..... and smart😂 and she pieced it together... eventually...just somewhere after threads. A sign for that from the writers even though subtle as always, came just in the next episode after threads in the beginning they are in a briefing and when sam slides over the missions file Jack touches her hand. It is very intentional, even the camera goes in to show the very important file sliding of course...not😂. And I don't know if this is just an extra detail or coincidence but he touches her left hand with his right one and back at the threads episode she uses her left hand to grab his right hand while he was being there for her.❤ they were so together after that. In beginning of season 8 she even shuts down that flirty agent again, by saying she broke up with Pete but isn't really single. And a bit later in season 9 or 10 when she is badly injured she let's Cam know about the private file on her laptop just in case she doesn't make it out alive. Told him the password is "fishing"....I mean Jack and Sam are never shown together but with all their moments and countless hints I think the writers managed to portray an exceptionally beautiful love story including an happy end. The more I think about it I come to the realization that this was actually an amazing way to tell their love story because it was all about showing the merely countless reasons and moments why they fall in love and how much they admire, respect and love each other. I think that is exactly what their special bond deserved, showing all that throughout the series instead of the cliche being together scenes everyone including me was hoping for. And in a way I think the writers even helped us imagine those parts of them too with all the alternative timeline/dimension/dream sequences where they showed just that. So it is all there. I am thankful their love story was told this way, not taking away from the main plot but instead very organically adding an incredible love so subtle but yet so beautiful it won our hearts even though we never saw the obvious.❤ Jack and Sam #always
really a personal call in a top secret military base it is so real it would never happen but my theory of a video game player of the internet and brought it down as this
I am not sure what you're getting at here, but if you're saying it's unlikely she would have gotten that call... well I mean, she's a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force. She ain't no Airman :P. She probably has a view perks.
Anyone else feel the Pete storyline was just cause they were running out of background plots by this stage? He came in suddenly and disappeared equally as suddenly but she was meant to marry the guy?? Just was a weak gap-filler.
I assume this scene was supposed to be in the Threads episode conference room scene, correct? For some bizarre reason both Netflix and Amazon Prime completely left it out. *angry emoji*
@@tkai1821 so since making my original comment I have discovered that if you watch the show on Amazon or Netflix, they have taken our certain scenes out of Children of the Gods (first episode) and Threads (this episode). Apparently both those episodes were 90 minutes when they aired originally but were cut down to about 44 minutes on the streaming services. I don't know why, I suspect licensing issues might be involved. Supposedly on the dvds you can watch the full episodes with all the scenes that were deleted out.
@@tkai1821 so I don't recommend seeking out the clips on RU-vid, this wasn't the only scene that was cut out and the other scenes will be harder to find. I think the easiest way to watch the whole thing will probably be getting the dvds but you don't have to buy them. If you have a public library and a library card, they probably have all the seasons on dvd, I know mine does. Just watch the episodes and return them without having to buy the dvds unless you want to.
I haven't seen the cut version in awhile. In terms of Sam/Jack, there is this scene, a little more of right before Carter went to Jack's and that's it. There's more Sam/Pete, Sam/Pete/Jacob and Jack/Kerry stuff. Also some Teal'c/Bra'tac scenes and Daniel/Ancient scenes. I HIGHLY recommend the full version.
I know this comment is very old but where can people find this full version? The streaming services don't have it and they even cut this particular scene out. :(
So... Video who is only scenes from an episode of Stargate... Posted on RU-vid... Needs the author who posted it the credits as "producer", on screen. Do you need attention so much? Thanks for sharing content anyway, but seriously? Because i have recorded episodes from Stargate on VHS back in my days, i can take some scenes from it, and considerate i do a job as producer, editor, financer... If i do some job to share it, and avoir a strike? Bah... i know what it is to be a shipper. Not for them, but for other series / anime / situation. So, good sample i guess. The most hilarious thing about the relationship with Pete is when they literally mocked that during the episode with Dan Castellaneta. And having almost all the "DeLuise family" working on Stargate is funny when you think about it. I'm also curious about one thing: why didn't you mention the fact that Jack saying it like that is voluntary a double sword, because "picking some flowers" means going to bathroom, so he basically said underlined, "go to pee" (go away)... But i guess it's useless to mention it.
I actually didn't hate Pete and thought it very big of him to help when Teal'C was in trouble. But it's pretty obvious that Sam/Jack were meant to be endgame and someone like Pete was nowhere within Sam's league. He was a nice guy but a cop and could never understand the type of life Sam lead and eventually, he would've felt like he was in her shadow and she would have been frustrated that she couldn't share the innermost parts of her life with him, something she could easily do with Jack. Even if they had gotten married, I doubt Sam and Pete would've lasted because they were worlds apart, literally.
Okay, so Carter is having a phone call with a civilian while Tok'ra and Jaffa are discussion top secret military issues that civilians are not supposed to know about in the background? So, her fiancé might just ask what is means that "there are still many Goua'ould who remain a threat"?!
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