In Morgan Freeman's voice, "I like to think the last thing going through Ba'al's head, other than that bullet, was, "How in the hell did SG-1 get one step ahead of him?""
I was thinking more of along these lines … "It was this moment that Ba'al realized he had fracked up". I love how he waits long enough for Ba'al to see him then shoots just to get that reaction lol
He ascends out of a pure and unyielding desire to assuage his utter confusion: "SERIOUSLY, SG1!!! HOW THE F****!?! TELL ME OR I HAUNT YOU FOR ETERNITY!!!"
@@kentonbaird1723 Yeah I don't think there are any Ancients that messed up enough to help Ba'al ascend just to have a satisfied Ba'al. Oh and the Ori don't even know about the Milky Way at the moment of this Ba'al's death, so no help from them not that they would. Plus Ba'al spiritually pure {insert ridiculously long laugh here}.
@@daviddrake5991 Time Travel episode. This scene takes place nearly 100 years before Daniel sets foot in the Ori home Galaxy. Yes the previous SG1 movie had them deal with the Ori, and yes this movie starts after the defeat of the Ori but this specific scene takes place before the Ori knows about the Milky Way since it's under the Ancients protection and no one from the Milky Way has gotten the Ori's attention.
Yeah, he propably wagered what he saw against last nights drinks. Combine that with the sentiment that a common man does not involve himself in the business of men of statue he is fine i guess. :)
Had a great uncle who was a chief mate in the Merchants between 30s-50s, he used to tell us about 'Blighty-to-Boston' runs and how he got into trouble a few times even without the war on, they could handle themselves pretty well.
Yeah and he brought some Thompson machine guns with it back then they was legal to own there was no waiting permit none of that b******* so he waited for 10 years brought plenty of guns and ammo and waited
TheHed94 I mean, it's basically just chainmail and plate... it's not even meant to absorb their own weapons. The only reason that they had any trouble with them in the first few seasons was because they weren't using an appropriate calibre.
Jaffa armour is more about arrogance and putting on a show rather than protection. To ignorant populations, they probably look very scary and powerful but to a technologically developed people, they are just clumsy and vulnerable.
When it comes to the Goa'uld, most of the tech isn't really flashed out. Why make good weapons and armor if you have unlimited slaves? They went with the first working version most of the time. And anytime a Goa'uld is making something new, it's doomsday
This is actually an interesting scene entirely. This Ba'al came from the "future" - the future of the 1930s, that is. But he very likely didn't just return to the future. He used the gate normally, probably to get to 1930s himself and then disposed of that version of himself and used his knowledge to become the most powerful Goa'uld of his time.
I still wonder if the original Mitchell just grew old and was forced to stay in that timeline. Kinda sad, at least Teal'C got to return to the original timeline in the series finale after he was stranded in time with SG-1
@@jackolantiltin3938 Personally, do we even know how he got to Earth in the first place? My theory has always been that Mitchell stole a goa'uld cargo ship somewhere and used it to get to Earth.
@@jackolantiltin3938 Nice use of Star Trek First Contact :D This Mitchell probably lived out his days in the 1940s through 1970s/1980s. In 1939 they were just beginning to experiment on the gate, and the disappearance of Ernest Littlefield. The gate won't even be operational and in use until 1995. They don't even have a DHD on Earth, until discovered in Antarctica, and the computer system in use by the SGC won't be invented until the 1990s.
A ten year ambush mission success. Was told Michele had to wait ten long years before that event took place. Also been ages since I last saw the movie.
@@philtomkinson7956 agreed. And hey i gotta say. Ten years to prep is good enough and time used wisely to prep lol. Despite the amount of time it took Michele was a good god knows how many steps ahead of bahl (forgive me if I misspelled his name) before he even commenced his plan to take over the ship
@Gun14Slinger Ba'al"s plan was to sink the ship, the Stargate is at the bottom of the ocean. That big ball the last Jaffa was carrying was a bomb. They set the bomb, dial out and leave. BOOM! and it's at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
after all these years, i've just realised how fortunate they are that the gate wasnt place any lower in the ships hull. As it is any hint of a storm and that boats going down, with that hole so close to the waterline
now imagine the stargate is facing downward... and the vortex made a hole at the bottom of the ship. baal wouldn't know and will walk through it and die while accomplishing his mission.
Actually, im not sure, that would mean if you run into an active incoming wormhole, you be vaporized? (Im not talking about when the vortex is created)
he knew a lot about the way in which the gate was transported. In all likelihood it would have been very meticulously recorded in the chief archaeologists files (after it was made a secret project) whoever was in charge of the classifieds would have insisted on it so there would have been some information somewhere saying the gate was loaded into an upright sealed packing create for transport. I mean he did have a phone so he would have been on earth at some point, he could have got the info then, wouldn't have been hard since he knew what he was looking for & had the tech to force the information out of people.
There was a thread back in the day that Mitchell was O'Neil's son for the trip to the 60's. I wonder now if O'Neil is now Mitchell's son from his trip to the 30's. Very Heinlein-ian and just what I would expect from this show :)
It was actually an idea they toyed with when creating the character but didn't go through with it,, it was then mentioned in the 200th episode. Would have been cool if Mitchell was the son of the couple who helped SG1 in 1969.
Why is there a hole at the back of the box behind the Stargate? The “kawoosh” effect only moves forward and disintegrates anything in front of the gate right?
Ah stargate, the seryies where you can beat a somewhat technologically superior (yet inferior in some ways) enemy by glorified "spawn camping" :D I always think of SG 1 with some massive force getting ready to invade earth, single file, through the gait, into .50 caliber machineguns, 300 style ;)
The problem for the Earth and others was never the Stargate itself. Stargate Command already dealt with that problem with the iris, Jaffa go splat. The problem was the System Lords had a bit more then the Stargates to travel with, big honking pyramid ships that can shrug off nukes. There is a reason why the SG teams won pretty much any ground engagement but knew they couldn't anything about threats from space until they got their own big honking ships.
You know if he was smart, he would use his knowledge to invest in certain stocks, write a mission report and have it delivered by a lawyer after the events of the movie and use that money for himself or help fund the Stargate program. With even a base level knowledge he could make billions on stocks.
In the novel Stargate SG-1 Roswell, Mitchell and Vala did exactly that after getting stuck in 1908 during a time travel misadventure taking place during Season 10. They then used that to fund their attempts to unbury the Gate in Egypt and go back to fix the timeline. Instead, they screwed it up leading to a Goa'uld invasion of the planet in 1947 with Vala as Qetesh's host and Mitchell as her First Prime. Fun book. After time was fixed, it was revealed that one of the people who sent the gang back in time in the first place (the other was a future version of Carter) was actually HG Wells.
You'd think it they really wanted to avoid U-Boats, they would black out their running lights, and the lights on the bridge. AND, the Thompsons they were using did not go into production until 1941. They should have had Model 1929 guns in 1939. Just saying.
Great ending, but....Mitchell almost would have HAD to commit suicide after this to preserve the rest of the timeline as much as possible. Every action he took after this, just EXISTING, would alter history.
Just a wee bit of historical nitpicking. They're using Thompson M1A1 SMGs, but the year is 1939. They would have used M1921 or M1928 versions of the Submachine gun. The M1/M1A1 versions weren't even made until 1942. If Mitchell brought them with him, he's bringing 'future tech' with him (by a few years) LOL
@@kevinpogue7294 Probably. During the entire run of the show, the submachine guns seen on Stargate SG1 were nearly all Modern ones. A period correct M1921 or M1928 was not seen. Weird. Being in Canada, I figured they would have period weapons available. They have everything else.
Since they don't follow a temporal mechanics paradigm here that has different timelines always diverging from each other (as strongly suggested by Mitchell's altered family photo), wouldn't this occurring have changed the development of the use of the Stargate? Even if Mitchell ditched the mini-DHD (and the bodies) in the drink, the authorities would have had the experience related by his grandfather and the crewman to reflect on, as well as the evidence of that huge hole in the ship's side. Hence, while not much more to go on, then would've been received if the trip had gone normally, wouldn't those slight variations have made it impossible for the Stargate's use, SG1's formation, and everything that followed it, happen as we've viewed it, as appears to be what we're meant to believe at the end?
if we reference the pilot to this episode ball ammo or fmj ammo barely fazes jaffa armor. That said they supposedly upgraded to either naquadah tipped armor penetrators and\or Trinium tipped penetrators. If fmj 5.56 as close didn't kill all the jaffa in the first epi thompons would need flesh to kill, And I didn't count more than ONE brain capper in the bunch!lol
Head on, possibly. But these are Thompson SMGs that fire .45 ACP, or as The Fat Electrician likes to call them Anti-Cow Penetration. These rounds were tested to be able to kill cattle with a single shot. The 5.56, being a smaller cartridge with an intermediate powder charge has significantly less power than a .45 ACP at close range and the 9MM MP5 was the choice of weapon for dealing with Jaffa armor until the SGC adopted the P90 5.7 PDW. So yes, the cattle-killing power of the Thompson sub-machine gun could most certainly ruin a Jaffa's day, especially when taking fire from the sides in ambush
bad make up trying to make him look old,what got me was what did he do after,he could'nt turn up at stargate command years later and say he was mitchell with two of them would they believe him,same with tin man when they got killed on the planet they never said what happen to harlan did they make new copies so he was'nt alone again for another 11 thousand years,pity they cancelled the show would of liked to see if they showed what happen it was a brilliant show.
It's not easy to do an "Old Ben Browder" makeup, since the guy still looks 40 years old and he's around 60 now, lol. He actually had to grow a beard now because they didn't want to hire him for a role, because he looked too young. Also in SG-1, the actor who plays his father in an episode, the actor is actually younger than Ben. XD
There are 2 theories about time travel that contradict each other. The first one states that no matter what you do in the past, the timeline stays the same because you going to the past was always going to happen and is part of history. The second theory states that everytime you go in the past, a new timeline emerges in which the future is uncertain and is bound to be modified. In the universe of stargate, the second theory applies, and therefore yes there are 2 Mitchels provided the one in the past does not prevent the one in the present to be born. also as information, the grandpa paradox isn't real, it is only born from a confusion of the 2 theories mixed together.
With what Mitchell knew of the past he should have made a ton of money to make sure he could live and complete the mission .. He had to survive for 10 yrs to get to this point
Throw the Jaffa, Ba'al, staff weapons and bomb overboard, swear the captain and first mate to secrecy (it would just be another fish tale anyway) and don't involve yourself in world events after this and the timeline damage should be minimal.
@@develynseether4426 he had 10 years of altering the timeline .. The ripple effect will only multiple .. Cameron would have to die before he was born or there would be two of them in the same timeline
@@xadam2dudex true but I'm sure he was able to meek out a living in some random cabin in the woods away from civilisation. Plus he'd be 89 when his younger self was born so he might have already been dead by then anyway.
@@develynseether4426 Also entropy cascade would not be a factor here because there are not two co-existing Mitchells from differing universes. This is an older Mitchell from the same universe.
