I love that Richard Dean Anderson worried that maybe O'Neill was too much of an insubordinate maverick, and then the chief of the US Airforce visited and said he had colonels who were WORSE than O'Neill.
Season 7 was chock full of Star Wars references. The Space battle of destroying the "Death Star" mothership weapon was straight out of ANH/ROTJ. Hell Jack being frozen at the end of Lost City was straight out of ESB. and plus the Kull warriors reminded me of Darth Vader.
Funny thing is, now you can also turn this around. Bypass a shield through hyperspace to destroy a planet-killing superweapon by destroying it's cooling system when it is ready to fire on a planet... Kind of what Han Solo did with the Starkiller Base in StarWars 7. But you're right : this episode is full of references to StarWars, especially when O'Neill says we wanted "Red Leader" as codename.
You gotta appreciate how Daniel is sitting there - still with no memories of his past - just going along because everyone says they do this kind of thing all the time.
I love this show O'NEILL Carter, am I sensing fear in your voice? CARTER Yes, actually, a lot of fear. O'NEILL Well, stop it! You're making me nervous. Jackson: Hey. Wow. What the hell are you doing here? O’Neill: Nice to see you too. Jackson: No, sorry. I just wasn’t expecting to see you. Well I was in the neighborhood. And I’ve got a little surprise for Mitchell. Jackson: Oh. Yeah he loved the last one. O’Neill: Sorry you missed Daedalus. Jackson: No, you’re not. O’Neill: You’re right. I’m not. O’Neill: Listen, I just had a briefing with Landry…about…your stuff. Jackson: Yeah. O’Neill: Sounds like it could be a problem. Jackson: Well, we've been up against some pretty bad guys before. O’Neill: Yeah, not so pretty. Overdressed, yes. Jackson: Been through some tough situations. O’Neill: That we always won. Jackson: Yeah…but didn't you feel that was because we had someone looking out for us? Jackson: I don’t think I would say this to anyone else, but for the first time, I’m scared. O’Neill: I’m hungry. Jackson: Me too.
The tokra were so shit they used to piss me off they always acted like they were somehow better and smarter then humans and yet it only took the humans 8 years to do what the tokra couldn’t do for thousands of years
@@KingKing-cz6xh The Tokra are very good in their intelligence gathering and sabotage Missions they're not the type for direct action approaches and they are a very patient bunch and I think in the further future they are afraid of the Tauri becoming too powerful and the next Galactic Superpower. For us humans time is not a luxury we can afford and we are very good at fighting and fucking the enemies shit up.
@@Crackshotsteph yea true but ultimately their plan was stupid they were using gorilla warfare to just sabotage the enemy, their goal was never to even kill any of the system lords which was stupid at least the humans would use the gorilla tactics to draw out the system lords and kill em, the tokra just had a plan with no end goal in sight they were just stuck in the mud for thousands of years
I loved this episode pairing Daniel and Jonas up for the mission. It was a real shame that Jonas didn't stay on as a fifth team member after Daniel came back. Those two played well off of each other.
@@KnightRaymund I didn't hate Jonas, but he felt kind of like the writers made a fan character. "See? He's just as smart and compassionate as Daniel, but he learns things instantly, remembers everything, and is almost able to become psychic!" If you consider the rumors they killed Daniel because Shanks was being a diva, he felt sort of like a threat from the writers about how easy it is to replace him.
@@Halinspark I thought Shanks left because it was more of a “Tasha Yar” situation, i.e. he was getting poor storylines, and kind of sidelined. He started showing up again because fans were super pissed
@@melissadavis18 tbh this is actually a good way to conduct a meeting. Oneill is saying what everyone is thinking and it helps them not freak out. Sam probably told him to do it.
You think at that point, they would be used to crazy. at this point they're six years in, they have taken out high ranking Goa'ulds such as Ra, Hathor, Seth, Cronus, Apophis. so yeah this is just a typical Friday for them.
*Sam:* "Anubis' Ship is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the System Lords' fleets. Its defences are designed around a direct, large-scale assault. The X-302 should be able to penetrate the outer defence." *Jack:* "Pardon me for asking, major, but what good is the X-302 against that?" *Sam:* "Well, Anubis doesn't consider a small fighter to be any threat, or he'd have a tighter defence. An analysis of the plans provided by the Tok'ra has demonstrated a weakness in the ship. The approach will not be easy. You're required to maneuver through the shield and skim down the surface straight to a certain point. The target area is only two meters wide. It's a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port. The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit should cause a chain reaction, which should destroy the ship. Only a precise hit will set of a chain reaction. The location of the shaft is unknown, so we'll have to find it." *Jack:* "That's impossible, even for a computer!" *Jonas:* "Sounds easy to me..."
well once they get the layout and discover the vent is at the end of a trench, Jack being helpful asks the room 'okay whose heard this before?' everyone raises their hand. And right before the 302 deploys, Jack is buggering Hammond 'is there anything else you would like to say General?' on the radio and Hammond in CNC shakes his head smirking and replies 'godspeed.' And Jack looks crestfallen
Lord Yu was honestly the best of all the System Lords. Ba’al may have been more charming but Yu was always honorable to his rivals like the Tau’ri. The only time he ever caused Earth problems was that one time he teamed up with Earth against Ba’al and even then it was an accident caused by his senility due to his sarcophagus no longer working fully.
Yu was one of those guys who always seem to be near the top of the food chain in power structure he's competent enough that the big dogs want to keep him around and Yu is satisfied with his rank and never seeks the top spot, only Anubis arrival forces his hand and he takes a leadership position. He knows it's dangerous being on the top.
Plus he collaborated with the SGC to undermine other System Lords. His own territory was on the far side of the galaxy from Earth so he had everything to gain and nothing to lose.
"Wackier than...being brought back from the dead by the Nox?" Oh yeah! "Wackier than....you and Teal'c being the only ones stuck in a time loop?" YES! Defeated tone..."He's probably right."
The craziness of her hair is a barometer of her frustration levels (mainly with O'Neil). Smooth and neat = feeling good, 5-day bedhead = about to kill someone.
Part of me wishes they kept Jonas around in some sort of capacity. He would have been a great asset either here or on Atlantis, and he actually did have decent chemistry with the rest of the team.
He isnt wrong. Strapping the gate to a 302 was basically hauling cargo and blowing up the star had a decent chance of success. This plan relies on a BUNCH of "this step might not work" and "if the last step worked then we...".
The things they succeeded in doing, many times by the seat of their pants, like when they escaped and picked up T’ealc at the same time, made the show great.
When Sam agrees that Jack is probably right that this is the wackiest plan ever, Daniel had that look on his face as if he's trying to say "Yeah, maybe I should have thought his through more about coming back with these guys after losing my memory. This was not the best idea".
I'd like to think that every time one wishes the other "good luck" it's actually code for "I love you", but since they are colleagues in the military they can't say that outright or act upon it.
Everytime she says "ventilation shaft", I think back to star wars with the alien on the bridge saying that the jedi have gone into the ventilation shaft, in that voice and tone.
Well, when you pull off an insane plan, the brass is gonna start expecting you to pull off insane plans on a regular basis. It's like a law of nature or something.
Does anyone want to say Star Wars and yes even in Star Wars it made no sense . Why not use the excessive energy to boost the shields our other weapons. I could be wrong as Jack O'NEAL Says or just right.
@@codenamehavvok9752 🙄 Heat energy is released in all but the most physics-defying setups and needs to be vented. You don't just "re-use" heat energy. If anything the Death Star had _too few_ ventilation shafts. It's a giant thermos can.
Jack and Samantha are golden, these two are two of my favorite sci-fi characters of all time. O'neill the most bad ass character of the franchise and Carter the smartest character of the franchise, in my opinion smarter than McCay.
@@FaqUrNwoBS the threat 9f death always seems to ignite mckays true genius. Sheppard i can imagine was half joking half seripus with his death threats on mckay
Hyper space generators are quit costly these days and are in short supply in this quadrant of hyper space. Wait, I think we have located one at Sears through their mail order catalog. One problem, you must enter the local time machine boost and go back in time to 1956 and receive the item and bring it back through the extended worm hole apparatus. Afterword, you must quickly dispatch it to the designated officials at the secret lab in Las Vegas. There will be a person there that will beam over it to Fort Canaveral. Thanks.
you can also see on jack's face the -you did what? when she says she blew up a sun. that has to also be the weird thing to have on your list of accomplishments. carter genius scientist, created new types of energy generator, helped figure out hypespace travel shields crystal based computers, and also shes blow up a star.
You just have to love after everyone else finished and went on their ways Daniel and Jonas are still sat there waiting for someone to jump out and say "haa fooled ya"
I think the Priors' mind powers would render most (if not all) explosives inert. (They did manage to beam a nuke onboard one at some point but there was no boom)
TheDjbz it could potentially work if the F-302 could remain undetected. The prior’s abilities require focus so if they can’t focus on the explosive it go boom
The Ori ships weren't as big and they didn't have scematics at the time and the power core of an Ori ship is tiny in comparison to Anubis' mothership so this technique wud likely fail if tried.
You asume that Ori Shields could not block Subspace Travel through them. It is feasible that Ancient Level technology was capable of doing that. Plus all the facts about it being much more mobile to being with, them having no schematics/weakpoints, the Prior being able to disarm explosives, etc... Also the Shields were really snug. Nothing like hat big bubble of Anubises Mothership: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YkhZlccoI8c.html
@@christopherg2347 there was quite a bit of space around them but another problem would probably be that Ori mother ships tended to be a lot more mobile than Anubis in fights making the whole thing even more difficult.
"That's impossible! Even for a computer." "It's not impossible...I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. they're not much bigger than two metres..."
Here is a thought... Carter could remotely control from a safe distance, the F-302 to cause it to emerge from hyperspace inside the ship causing the ship to explode in the backwash from the hyperspace window...
Would only cause limited damage to the ship. A ship traveling in hyperspace is still traveling at local sublight speed and while that can be quite significant, it is at best the equivalent of a similar size railgun shot hitting something inside the ship. If the SGC had access to unlimited amounts of Naquadria I am sure they would have made missiles with micro-hyperdrives on them to use in this fashion, but in this case they really only had a single fighter capable of micro-hyperspace jumping they had no way of guaranteeing that any missiles stocked on it would have time to explode after exiting hyperspace. Remember that a nuke has to be triggered, it doesn't just explode from contact, if the ship exited hyperspace inside the mothership it would almost certainly instantly impact an object and explode with the force of its mass combined with its sublight speed and with a small addition from the volatile explosives on board. Remember also that they don't know how to target a naquadria hyperspace jump on a vessel this small, so they don't know where they come out of hyperspace, they were just hoping O'niell wouldn't smash into the side of the mothership coming out of hyperspace, so they couldn't even just aim the fighter at a system vital to the weapon and let it go, they had to hit the target with conventional weapons like they did.
Hyperspace windows have never been shown on SG-1 or Atlantis to be able to cause damage on their own. If they have been shown to cause damage in of themselves on SGU then you can refer me to where that is stated.
"there is a chance that the city could be ripped apart as we try to enter the hyperspace window." - Radek ZELENKA (SGA: Adrift) he was referring the insufficent power to open a hyper space window while powering the whole city with the city shield.. Another example. A wraith hive ship needs to drop out of hyperspace due to the stresses of its thick outer hull to regenerate. if a ship like the daedalus went into hyperspace without shields, it would be ripped apart in the process. And Janus's device increased the instability of the hyperspace window which made wraith ships more vulnerable and caused them to disintegrate when they entered hyperspace. Ancient/Tauri ships were spared because they were shielded.
Hyperspace causing stresses on ships isn't evidence that you can use a hyperspace window as a weapon against something that isn't transitioning to hyperspace. Hyperspace is a subspace dimension with different physics than real space, obviously an unprotected ship will take damage under those conditions. Similarly a hyperspace window that isn't opened correctly won't be able to let something through. Neither is evidence that opening a hyperspace window near something that isn't entering will damage that thing.
@@cirrustate8674 Yes but the only way to dissipate heat in space is by radiation, which means lots of flat panels with lots of surface area. So unless they are using some sort of gas to cool the weapon that then gets exhausted directly into space, a ventilation shaft is a silly plot device. Also using gas cooling wouldn't be a good idea since you can only use the weapon as long as you have a supply of the coolant gas which takes up space and mass in your space ship.
@@asvarien Fun fact: They don't have to fire the weapon constantly. Relying on venting gas (or liquid, it could be any kind of fluid coolant being vented into space) wouldn't be *INDEFINITELY* sustainable but it's a much, *MUCH* more efficient method of cooling than radiation. A high-energy superweapon is going to need efficient cooling more than sustainable cooling, so it makes sense to use an option that has the potential to actually solve the problem.
I can really see the Tok'ra, The Asgard, and all the other advance people thinking. These are the people who are causing The Goauld so much trouble. Kind of funny and shocking.
@@mattboesch8907 Technically, the Abydonians (RIP) were also Tau'ri, because Ra brought some people from ancient Egypt to Abydos, so the modern day Abydonians were the descendants of those coming from Earth.
@@Croftice1 Ah, to fly on a deployment with someone like you, I am sure we would enjoy the long flight and then someone might be like enough both of you shut up.
The math for this is incredibly precise. You don't really want to try this with smaller ships since as she said there was not 0% chance that he could have literally warped into the ship. That's not even mentioning all the little things like "what if they adjusted their shields after this" "what if they're moving slightly too fast instead of hovering?" "What if they changed the size of their shields?" Etc. This plan had a ton of shit that could have gone wrong.
@@SeraphSeph they could build remote controlled, medium sized ships out of junk and use them in combination with hyperspace to pass the shields and re-emerge inside the enemy ship, which would destroy it or at least some vital parts of it. If they miss their target just try again.
Why the air force, I sit here thinking, okay the mountain is a bunker for missiles, but why is it not army and airforce, airforce for the ships and army for land missions. How's that never been a thing
Because that's how the US military works. The Airforce has aircraft and ground troops, the Army has ground troops and aircraft, the Navy has aircraft, ships and ground troops, the Marines have aircraft, ships and ground troops. And these days Cheyenne Mountain is part of 'Space Force'. Also, many times it's mentioned that SGC has marines in its ranks.
