State of CARD SHOWS: What Went Right & Wrong for the Burbank Card Show 

Rob loves Geoff. He sold nearly 50,000 Will Grier and Lonzo Ball rc's because of his advice. 😊

damn he went there @@daniellarsen889

How did he put him in his place? Did I miss something?

@edwardcaudill64 He always tells Geoff it's a hobby and Geoff thinks it's investment driven. Also mentioned all the poor advice that was given and many were lost in the hobby because they got burned.

They have it all. And he's right about when it's free shipping you don't mind buying extra cards

indeed. unlike cardporn

Absolutely. I dont go on social media anymore for card stuff that is the best move I've made in awhile i encourage others to do the same. Preinternet days were great

Yeah, I think he needs to start vetting his sponsors a little better. Take some advice from Rob. Its your face on your business. Reputation is more important than money.

Yea the shift happened heavily in 2018 and now will never be the same again. Its flip and rip now and forever. Collecting days of old are dead unfortunately.

@@Cardcitysports oh no sir there's way more of us not on the Internet than there is of them....just look behind them...all newbies, families...we just have to stop PLAYING THEIR GAME AND LEAVE THAT TO THEM... EVENTUALLY THE MONEY ALWAYS RUNS OUT..and gamblers are a small community....with people like this man leading the way it's just a matter of time!!!I have MILLIONS of dollars worth of cards and I stopped grading a few yrs ago...gotta start somewhere..I could be greedy and cash out and never work my 9 to 5 again but this is just a hobby for funfor me....Im a proud working man not looking to get rich quick or win a lottery by hitting a 1 of 1....we forgot what AMERICA 🇺🇲 was founded on...hard work and family...not get the most by doing the least....have faith sir its coming back...

I think the whole rip to flip is going to fade out soon. The whole breaker thing is kool if you are a fan. I haven’t been since it started , I would rather invest that $120+ spot money into a PSA 9,10 of a nice P.C player all day. People need to sit back not just throw thousands out to try and hit a huge player it’s basically a lottery ticket at that time. Do your research, take your time, and “most importantly” have fun collecting.✌🏻

Ditto

@@BostonSportsFan33 I hate the breaking scene and think its dumb honestly. Never bought into one and i never will. Iv been collecting cards for 23 years since pokemon launched and I dabbled in magic along with some misc sports as a kid. Im age 34 now and got in as a 10 year old end of junk wax era , my best moments are ripping full boxes knowing im gunna for sure get some sort of decent hit . Times have now changed and the hobby is printed to the moon with it being more like a flashy casino now which is making this whole breaking thing popular . Its just gambling and a dopamine hit for people. Id rather the product have stayed cheaper and breaking be banned . I still buy some product but definitely have got more into selling and buying singles because its so damn expensive to rip boxes . The card hobby is stuck between being a casino and a stock market at the moment , with collecting getting fazed out.

Hotel sounds normal, maybe they could have a cut rate for people who do buy a table but that would have to be paid by the show owner... again food is expensive everywhere at every event... and $600 for a table for 3 days seems very reasonable.... maybe ask yourself if you were selling the right type of cards and at the right price points.... it's very competitive I think many popular cards at shows like this need to drop to sell... or be willing to make deals... and reputation means a lot

Agreed. Too big/expensive and not enough people for dealers. Anehiem is a tough market. Hard to imagine they will be coming back there. Ontario is a better venue with more affordable lodging/accessibility. We gotta remember the majority of these 'dealers' are more flea market dealers and the cost of show means a lot. Higher overhead means the BUYERS are less likely to get the killer deals. Trickling down to the people not buying. Kudos to Burbank for leading the charge tho. It's just a tough market in OC. Like Vegas too many other things to do and everything seems overpriced including the cards.. collectors know the better deals are in the Midwest for like 70 percent or less of what you find on the east west coast shows.

Unions here at places like large hotels, convention centers etc have established rules such as: only union members can bring the booth setup stuff that each dealer needs to the showroom floor. In other words, the union charges to bring your stuff to your booth, and it’s not going to your booth unless you pay them. This guarantees that union members get the work, and you can’t source it elsewhere. Rob, it appears, did not want his dealers and other vendors to feel that feeling of being hit up to do things that cost more money, so he paid the union a lump sum to not nickel and dime each vendor, rather, just do the job and not mention anything to the vendor

@@Showcardsusa Gotcha! Thanks for the explanation!

Also the most idiotic