Steelcase Leap V2 Ergonomic Chair vs Herman Miller Embody | Best Office/Gaming Chair Review 

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the thing is, that the embody allows me to go to warp and fight the klingons, where the leap 2.0 is meant for fighting your boss in the office.

Thank you for your cross legged on a chair struggling demo. It's clear to see what a big chair they are.

Showing how the backs flex was really helpful. Thanks man!

I can listen to your voice all day and maybe at night to fall asleep... it is so soothing ... sorry i know this comment is weird. Great video and you had me look at a better chair for my back

Thank you for explaining how the chairs feel when sitting cross legged as well, that is how I naturally sit half the time and most reviewers don't take that into consideration. Awesome review.

Great video review! Covered way more than most reviewers who seem to focus on how the features work, instead of actual user needs/uses. How I chose my Steelcase Leap was by sitting in it! I found one at a business liquidator for $175 and could not be happier. Oh, and I think its awesome that you included cross-legged sitting, even though it appears that it isn't something you do (I don't and hadn't even considered it, but I know a lot of people do). Thanks!

Solid review, answered all the questions I had. Subscribed.

This was exactly the review I was looking for man, thanks very much!

Good review man, I've been deciding between a few chairs including the Neue which I thought I was sold on until someone mentioned the Steelcase Leap. This video was really informative and touched on all the areas that similar reviews don't. You seemed objective and level headed, real good job!

Thank you for specifying if you can or cannot sit cross legged in the Aeron Chairs, it was exactly what i was looking for.

Very nice video. Good content, pacing, and sound quality. Convinced me to subscribe!

2:49. THANK YOU! I was so curious about this

Hey I just wanted to say that this video helped me choose a chair. I was stuck between these two brands and got the Embody Logitech edition while it was on sale. Thank you for solidifying my decision. Greatly appreciated.

Excellent review, for me the most important feature is the spine support, so I am thankful for the quick detailed comparison good sir!

Most concise review I've watched thus far. Answered all of my questions! Just curious, what desk are you using?

Crying in $10 metal folding chair with a blanket on top.

Great review! Have been using the Aeron for the past 4 years, and wanting to try something new.. Think my next chair will be the Embody.

Superb review man ! - keep up the good work 👊

Really nice review! and showing the cushion with your hand, thumbs up

Finally Ergonomic chair review with cross leg sitting test... Thanks!!!

Awsome video and great editing! Keep doing you fam, just subscribed.

Thanks for the link to this video! I would really like to try the Embody. Unfortunately, it is quite a drive to the nearest retailer. I'm going to have to make the trip though, as I couldn't imagine making such an investment without trying the product first. Your video was really helpful, and gives me some food for thought.

Great review. Really helped me decide which chair to buy. I'm going to get a refurbished leap v2 for working from home.

Amazing review! Going to purchase one.

Dope video! Helped me in my decision making. I see you are a classy man, loving your skx!

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Great review! I too use a HM Aeron at my office, it's a great chair if you sit properly in it. Also use a Leap V2 at home. As for crossing your legs and other "incorrect" ways of sitting, we all do it, so it's great you've covered that in your review. Another thing to note, I've reached out to the Steelcase Design Studio in Dallas concerning warranty coverage and parts. Even though their warranty is "non-transferable" the service centers may still work with you on service/parts if there's factory defects; so it's really up to the agent supporting you. That made me quite satisfied with my used purchase of my Leap V2.

Hey folks ,heads up, with the embody arm rests move with back when leaning back ,this means you can't stay under desk because arm rests will get caught under desk or and move away from desk . With the V2 when leaning back the arm rest will stay under desk or where it was positioned ,so you'll be able to type or use mouse.

Really well thought out and thorough review, thanks.

I had the option to use an Aeron at work once. I ended up using a standard $50 staples chair. It really is one of those chairs that you either love or hate. In searching for a good office chair and considering the Aeron again, I found many reviewers are saying the same thing that people either like the Aeron or absolutely hate it. I hated it, so if you are considering buying new, I would advise to sit on one first before considering it.

Picking an expensive chair is a pain in the butt since they all seem to be so hit and miss as well as extremely prone to subjectivity, I went through two of them now and looking for a third. Your review helps a lot. Cheers! (I also have the same pc case, only black)

Super helpful!!!! That being said Im gonna see if I can try these out somewhere 🤔🤔

I have tried both at a local store, found Leap V2 is more comfortable with many more adjustment options and purchased it.

I saw another one of your reviews before this one and I came back to watch this hours later specifically hoping you'd address sitting cross-legged. Excellent review.

Great video, that made up my mind. Getting the Herman Miller.

Hahaha bro! Best review for the simple fact you addressed and sat cross legged in both chairs, because we all know people do this.

Just came back to say that my search has probably come to an end! I wen't for the Steelcase gesture, it's amazing! Thanks for the video mate!

Stellar review, thanks for the video

Awesome video. Great comparison

Thanks for the great review. I was just able to get an awesome deal on craigslist for a leap for just75$. I was interested in the herman miller ofcourse but the opportunity came and i just couldn't turn it down.

This was so helpful! I just spent $$$ on an Aeron and I hate it so far... the lip is so uncomfortable and being an accountant I don't find many times where I need to/can recline backwards lol, Thank you for posting this!

Great review, you just helped push me to pick up a leap v2 today! Unfortunately the store I was at didn't have a embody as they "sell to fast, when they get them" the sales guy said. The sales guy said the same thing as you, leap v2 has firmer lumbar support (that's what I need most). Also tried out the leap v1, & gesture while i was there. The gesture is really nice, and really worth looking at but the leap v2 still had the edge with slightly more aggressive lumbar. And the leap v1 was nice as well with a better "spring" back, then the v2? Maybe because the seat back was shorter?

Thanks for good and honest review. Owner of Leap here. Did not like the stiffness of Aeron when I tried it at the store. I also needed highly adjustable arms, which Aeron did not provide. So Leap, refurb.

Great comparison! Thank you.

Good review, thanks for making it. Do the armrests on both chairs go low enough to play the keyboard comfortably? That is, can you move your elbows unrestricted as your hands shift up and down the instrument?

Perfect description I was looking for. I just stating using the Embody at work an love it, but the arms in my opinion are stupid on it.Plus sitting cross legged is one of my favorite things to do at home when playing some games.

Great video, very helpful

Just ordered mine refurbished through BTOD. I'm excited

I love all the radiohead art

Very good video man, thanks for including your height. Lots of good info without being overly long.

Very informative, Thank you!

Based on this review I ordered the Leap 2 chair in a custom colour. They shipped pronto to my remote area and unpacking was a joy. Now to my review. I am a large man over 6 feet nd 300lbs. The seat may be thin but firmly cushioned and very comfortable. The back (no headrest) is marvellously supportive and the adjustable lumbar is nicely adjustable. I have suffered for year with sciatica pain so this was an investment piece for me for long term ownership. The floppy armrest pads are brilliant and all adjustability feature work as described in your video. Even the carpet rollers make a difference on my recycled bumpy floor mat other chairs got caught up on constantly. My fav options is the sliding seat cushion that supports my longer legs & thighs amazingly well with zero fatigue after hours of sitting. But there is one catch. The cradle metal U-shaped base that attaches everything for adjustability is fixed and the two circular pivot "joints" do not widen. They dig into my hip area terribly and the chair is not offered in wider widths. In fact with the exception of maybe the Cobi model, all Steelcase chairs are based on the same physical design. At $1700 (with the exchange rate in Canada) I am sorely disappointed that larger widths are not offered considering the price of this well designed chair. A model that is armless would have solved this issue or widen the pivot points by 3" or so to prevent the hip digging. I would think that anyone my size should condor the Herman Miller Aero for it's bottom seat cradle design or the armless version as a better bigger person choice. Finding comfortable seating for large body types usually means massive chairs, overly padded and less supportive as similar prices. I hope Steelcase is listening for future designs because they nailed 90% of my wish list.

Good review. Thanks!

Great review, Thanks!

Man awesome video EXACTLY what I was looking for... What sucks is I'm going to have to take the public transit about an hour one way to check all 3 of these chairs out. But I guess it'll be a worthwhile long term investment.

Awesome comparison and demonstration of these chairs, however I think my mind is still sold on getting a Vertagear Triigger 350 overall for money and quality sake :)

State Farm is closing their hubs across the country. They use the steelcase chairs. I was able to get one for 20 bucks. Super comfy!!

I just started looking at new office chairs for my home office. Had no idea how expensive they could get. I’ve been using a $60 Staples chair for about 8 years

very nice demo and review... however, one feature that I WISH you would have discussed is the glide seat adjustment. while I realize at your height that this is not so important, for those of us who are shorter it is important as we often need seats with less depth. can you please comment on the depth adjustment feature? THANKS!

Great video, thanks. Can you recommend other chairs that have the same rocking motion that the Embody & Aeron have? I really like that feature but also want to sit in various positions without the Embody price tag.

If you could choose one. What would it be. Embody or Leap?

wish there was an embody with those steelcase arm rests

Very helpful, thank ya! Any updated opinions on chairs given a few more years?

nice review bro

For a second opinion, I had the leap v2 for 1 month. Arm adjustement are amazing but it is very loose and will move if you elbow rest on them. I returned it cause I could feel the back lumbar support bar, it hurt my back after long sitting no matter the setting. I finally switched for the embody, back support is right on perfect, but I wish it had the same arm as the leap v2 did, the arms dont go back as far as I wish they did, they would need to be longer towards the back and I hate the way they tilt from side to side. I dont mind the cushion on the embody, but it is more firm and it will take some time to adjust to, I would say the leap's cushion is superior. Leap feels cheap for its materials/construction, embody feels very premium and is eye catching, it gives my office a omg feeling. I preferred how the leap would have its back lean, the arm would stay still, embody's arm follows the chair and will lift your desk if you are up close with the arms underneath. Rocking with the embody while watching a video is better tough, but make sure you back off from your desk for full stretching. Overall I would say the leap v2 is a better chair, but I prefer the back support of the Embody. As someone else said, there is no clear winner as of now in premium chairs

Great video, thank you. I definitely want a chair where I can sit cross legged or otherwise pretzeled, so I appreciate you demonstrating this! At home I’m currently sitting on old wooden dining chairs, which were ok as dining chairs when I bought them 8+ years ago, but now the cushion padding is bottoming out and they are literally falling apart, so I really need to choose and buy a new chair (and almost literally anything would be better right now!). I was really keen on the Humanscale Freedom until I found one to try, and just couldn’t get it adjusted to fit comfortably at all. As well as struggling with the back height to properly support my lumbar and still being high enough to support the rest of my back, and wrangling the headrest and having it clash with the mid back position, I didn’t like not being able to lock the recline position. Plus it felt like I was always sliding around on the leather, so I’ve changed my mind on that too! At work I have this old and pretty jacked up Positiv Plus chair that I inherited when someone left, which was an enormous improvement on the low backed simpler Positiv Me chair I had before that was causing me a lot of pain (it’s a UK ergo brand). Apart from being old and creaky, with a wobbly back and dodgy arm rest that won’t stay correctly or symmetrically positioned, it’s fully loaded with all the adjustments, complete with air lumbar pump and seat depth & tilt, all of which are hard features to give up. A new one would set me back £1k though, and I’m really not sold on shelling out that much for a boring and huge black plastic chair to have at home instead of something that looks a bit sleeker. I’m looking at the Leap v2 now, or maybe the Please V2, which isn’t really on RU-vid much because it’s not available in the US, but it seems comparable to the Leap in a lot of ways but with a two piece back system which reviewers say gives more lumbar support. The Please is much more plentiful second hand and I can pick up a refurb for about £200, compared to more like £330 for the Leap when they’re in stock, but I’ve struggled to find somewhere to go and try them out so it’s a bit of a gamble. Buying chairs is tough!

Very good comparison. Thanks.

Nicely done.

I got super anxious when you started doing that 2:50

Nice review.

My question is, do you really find the lumbar support on the leap to be enough? I was always a fan of really firm foam chairs just because I like really consistent lumbar support so when I start trying to hunch later in the day the chair just basically won't let me.

Great review especially cross leg thing and actually people admitted that Aeron is not that comfortable.

what monitor arm mounts do you use? i like the way they look

I am 6'4" 220lbs...I've used the Leap, Aeron and Gesture...and spent considerable time in the Embody. I wish the Leap had a forward tilting seat pan...but regardless found it to be the best fit, most supportive and comfortable. The Aeron triggered sciatic issues I never previously had '...got rid of it and thankfully issue went away. The Gesture was nice but I preferred the Leap as the lumbar support for me was better. The Embody is nice too, but it promotes more of a "lean back" posture...I.e. your hip angle is greater than 90 degrees (not ideal for me when typing at desk). You can crank up the seat back in an effort to correct this but the upper corners of seat back curl forward slightly and given my height push my shoulders forward slightly (rounded shoulders) and I find this bothersome and uncomfortable. So...for my personal chair...so far I prefer the Leap.

I have both chairs. In the long run Embody seems to be better because you have better control on front part of the seat. You can lift very front edge of the chair like you do in the car for example. In Gesture/Leap bottom part in always flat.

Thank you, good video!

Thanks - perfectly rendered vid! One gripe, though, is that nobody ever features creaky shrimps using anything, which would be very relevant to my situation. (Like what Algia, Osis or Itis don't I have)

Does the Embody have a forward tilt lock type of function? I like the ability to rock in it ... but for intense tasks, I want to know if it'll sit up straight and comform to the back. Great reviews!

I picked up a used Leap early this for $120. It was essentially brand new. I don't think the previous owner ever sat in it. For the price I got it for, it's unbeatable. I can sit in it for hours and get up w/o any back pain.

For lower back pain and heating sensation in the lower body glutes, which chair would you recommend ? I would currently use the vari drafting chair right now and debating between Aeron due to the pressure points reduction.

Hi, great review. I have been testing the Embody for a few days at home and I like it. However, the lumbar support presses too hard on my back and is not adjustable... So I will probably have to send it back. Since you had both chairs, can you tell me if the lumbar support of the Leap can be adjusted in such a way that it presses less than the Embody? Does the tension adjustment make a big difference between the mini and the max? Thank you !

Thanks, great review. I wish the Embody wasn't so expensive.

Also resistance knob works very strange on my Gesture. It does not provide enough resistance. Seems like it stopped half way from what I would have chosen.

Hi Myxo, nice video - thank you! Which chair do you currently use as your favourite for home use? I liked all the chairs at the showroom (Leap v2, Embody, Aeron, Gesture), I'm struggling to make the final decision on which to pick! I have to sit for very long hours so being comfortable for long sessions is most important to me

The lumbar support is much aggressive on the Leap than the Embody. Also, Leap is easier to switch between upright and recline. But, Embody don't allow you to stay too upright. The hight back of Embody can could also cut on to your shoulder if you are taller. Leap also sit much warmer than Embody.

Great video! I currently have an Aeron classic which I like but I do feel the front plastic bar after a while. But I do love that it forces me to sit ergonomically. Do you feel the leap fabric is hotter than the embody? I’m moving and my new place won’t have central AC. I’m considering the embody as it seems a bit more comfortable than an Aeron while having the rocking motion I love with the Aeron

What kind of desk is that? I love the thick wood.

I'd love to try the Steelcase leap v2. I had a HM embody at work, omg best chair ever. Loved it. No pain, ugly chair imo but supports you. Which is what I care more about. We had the opportunity to try a bunch of HM chairs and we all chose the Embody. The Aeron is not comfortable, I don't get why it's so popular and everyone knows about that.

Nice review! Do you have any experience from the steelcase gesture? I cant deside if i should go with the leap or gesture..

Whered you get them? I want to buy the ones advertised on the top search for 1/2 the price but dont know if theyre legit

You bought them used, where did you buy them? I'm in the market for a chair, this was super helpful, thank you! There are several online refurb stores, not sure if they're okay or not and I assume the 12 year warranty no longer applies.

Amazing review I really wish there was a areon in your review just because you did such a great job. Those people hate the aeron are nuts they probably do not have it adjusted right. After using the areon every other chair sucks.

If I may ask, where did you get the embody for 350 from? I'm in the Vancouver area and the "cheap" suppliers still want 1150+tax. Thanks!

Excellent review for me. Thanks for posting it!

Just purchased my embody chair for $2,400 out the door . Can’t wait

I just tried Steelcase leap in showroom today. I’ve tried embody before. Leap wins hands down! Aeron beats embody too.

How does the Aeron feel compared to the Embody? For a gaming chair which do you think is better overall for long gaming sessions?

Got the Leap with the factory headrest. Makes reclining comfortable since you have your head properly supported.

Great video! I'm in the process of comparing these two. Biggest question I have is which one is better for "active sitting"? I tend to be all over the place in my chair: correct posture when typing, leaning back or left or right during a webex, gaming can be leaning way back with a controller or more propped up for a game where I access the keyboard ... but in general I feel like I'm all over the chair with my butt on the edge or pressed firmly against the back depending on what I'm doing.