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MELO

Paul george 2/16 in an elimination game is pathetic.

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Westbrook

The Jazz

Coaching and lack of a solid support cast out of Russ, Melo, PG and Adams

Kia Amire HAHAHA

Kia Amire 😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂

That's true tho

I think James Harden has some kind of videotape on the refs.

Yes he only acts bias with certain teams or topics

mav stevens lmao 😂 YMCA haha

Too funny Steven Jackson said you could put lebron on prairie view a&m lol

George Paul's 5 pts didn't help

westbrook isnt coachable lol he throws plays out the window an chucks up bricks

Biggest problem is he lets Russ do whatever he wants.

Alabama Abe exactly I'm a Celtics fan who hates kobe but I respect him using that to motivate him instead of crying about it.... kobe also OWNED Utah in the playoffs

Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF facts dude, going from when he airballed those 3's in his rookie season against Utah, to sweeping them in 2010 was awesome. Definitely have to respect kobe

RIP Kobe!

if “toughest” means racist then yeah

@@arizonaFIREent it kinda sucks ya haven’t been to a finals since 2008 😭😭

James Harden also travels 80% of his move set.

I'm a Harden fan and I wont contest the comments. Even though its cheap, you have to understand he is a master of misdirection. He works on that part of his game like Curry does jumper. I think he looks at film and gives things a try to test the limits. He isn't that fast, jump that high but he completely understands the rules and how to manipulate his defender.

Agree and I hear you. I'm just saying once the EURO STEP came out folks just started flat out traveling. Imagine if Kobe was given a drop step and two steps every time down the court. Jordan? All these celebrations after a three ball? Why? Where did the hard fouls go, the enforcers? It's just soft now. Soft players, soft on calls, soft on a lot of things. It is what it is.

if u likes post on social media he gets two free throws soon u turn on channel he gets free throws

damond stoddart h

Found you lmaoooooo

Troy Stewart right bro

**THANG

Pobbyy , skip "playoff p!". Skip wanted to say GTFOH so bad. Lol

My man George Paul lol Skip is hilarious

He gotta guard love 😂🤣

Pobbyy Here's the thangg Skiuuuup

He be killing me with that line lol 😆🤣

Tristan Gallagher Melo was 3-7 for 7 points in Game 4

Tristan Gallagher - if u look at the tape pg shot 9 shots with the clock below 3 seconds that means he had to heave a lot of bad shots cause Westbrook was milking the clock

@@vibrantsk2374 exactly

Swof yeah okc coach is trash his system Doesn’t help Melo for more insulation plays He wants Melo to be always on the tree point shooters and still Westbrook averages ten assists but it looks like he holds the ball longer....

@@alexandermoon7218 *isolation. (NoHate)

lakshmikanth p agree

YUP I AGREE

Alozie Chibueze I dont get it.

But here's the thang Skiiiulpp YEAAHHHHH

Lmao 😂😂

But here's the thang Skiiiulpp Russ shoots 43times to make 45points and you say if not of him the game would not have been close if not of him. He is the point guard he needs to make his teammates play better. They lose that’s the bottom line. Give 43shots to an elite player like KD,curry or Harden they will drop you 70pts but they are self aware they know its about winning like a team not Hero ball.

Legendary username my good sir! #WellPlayed

I bet Shannon be knocking the bottom out of Joy.

Blake Richard Kevin: hey skip 👋

*George Paul

That Dead Guy Which is why he’s a secondary star, he can never be the best player on a championship team

A. W. Right 💀💀

He folded under the P

when he was on the pacers he didnt fold in the big games

NO BRO SORRY I DON'T AGREE, THAT JAMES HARDEN GAME 6 VS SPURS IS THE WORST EVER IN NBA HISTORY PLZ GO REWATCH IT U'LL SEE MY POINT.

Utah has the worst fans in NBA history

Wow, thats actually... I'm stuggling with that one... inflatable??? I need to take a deep breath after that one... wow... "Leyed"

Giant up there with Boston

Jorge and lebron dickeaters

They supported a child molester in karl Malone for years so no surprise there

walter alston well playoff p might just be a garbage nickname 😂

Droopy Ballz 😂😂😂😂

He did but no one called him that until he earned it lol

That's Kobe tho Lmaoo and he backed it up, playoff P just embarrassed himself

It’s Kobe can’t say anything

His mother gave him the name King..Lebron means King in the African Language..he was King before the NBA

jrzj.....I KNOW!!!

10 months later... nope

99 overall need the hoodie ‘Melo

Kamran Cabey yep '09 Carmelo was the best.

@@mwj9080 when he was young and hungry

@@feelikemorpheus6419 exactly

Shhh, these “analysts” and RU-vid experts don’t actually watch the games. They check the box scores and call it a day.

You know giving the ball to a teammate and assisting a teammate are 2 different things right?

120593Gian all 3 players are known for their scoring one on one games. So yes I know the difference. They don't need to be setup to score. Did you know that?

Hoodfame Kyro my point is clear. It's the opposite of what they're saying he does. it's not RW for everything. That's why PG is staying and Melo got kicked out.

Ss Ss they were iso ball since day 1...no player movement, no setting screens..that was their problem. 4 are watching on the 3pt line, russ going iso taking insanely tough shots

he was about pace of play not necessarily style of play

Ss Ss they play that style it jus dont fit that team

Exactly. WHAT is he even talking about? Of course Stephen "all coaches suck" Jackson would blame Donovan for Westbrook taking 80 shots in two games. Wow.

1 player who has the ball, 1 screener and the rest are 3 point players.......sounds like every team lebron is on but only problem that it's russ so they ppl act like its a problem to do that with one man and not the other #sipstea

Kendall G 😂😂😂 iso plays is what he shoulda said

But it's true considering the pieces they have. They did a lot of 3 hoisting.

Isolation is a play or style of play. 3 pointers are a shot. You can iso AND shoot 3s you know. In fact thats what they were doing.

He was a high it’s ok lol

I think he meant they needed to set pick and rolls and set up for open shots. But they didn’t at alllll

Antonio Sanders Are FS1 going to pay him that reported 28 million? 😏 I wonder what Mark Jackson could do differently with with this team. 🤔.

But asking pg to shoot 25 percent . cause he shot less then that.

Antonio Sanders It’s not even about Russ being the leader, factually speaking it’s the fact that this system built for Russ is what makes them lose. Why is it that GS before KD joined still won games even though Klay or Steph went cold in some games? The way the OKC offence is run doesn’t let other players to get involved and get into a rhythm. On god, switch Russ with Curry and Billy Donovan with Kerr and that OKC are going to the finals. PG and Melo missed a total of 18 shots combined, Russ missed 25 shots... from that perspective it’s clear who’s was the bigger brick fest in that game 6. It’s crazy to me how in those last moments with the 6 shot attempts in that 1 possession, no one set a single screen for the shooter. Curry is able to hit late game game winners via a screen to beat his defender. It’s a 5 on 5 game at least use the players around you instead of taking contested shots. People refuse to blame Russ because of his effort, but since when does effort excuse bad performance? Idc that he willed them back into the game, he still missed 25 shots that could have converted to an extra 50 pts (or 75). Keeping it at 2s, Melo and PG costed a potential 36 pts which is bad but Russ by himself costed them 50 pts.

Sonny Ankau Paul George is not a superstar, so I do not hold him to superstar standards

no offense but your argument makes absolutely no sense. I give you that Russ did cost them 50 potential points because he missed 25, well okay, but he did score 46, which is a total of 46-50= -4 points, so that's what he actually cost them. On the other hand PG and Melo missed for 18 shots combined, costing 36 potential points, but they only scored for a combined 12, which is 12-36 = -24, even if you divide that equally on both of them (which is actually unfair to Melo) you still get -12 points that they cost. There's even a stat that shows this without all these calculations, it's called FG% and it screams: PG was just trash in this last game

fvpbz54 kinda makes me wonder were we right to dismiss Phil Jackson because he was trying to trade Melo...

fvpbz54 Westbrook! Westbrook's basketball IQ is average in a good game, shooting mechanics are suspect, teammates can't play off of him, his game is exciting yet inconsistent, and he stops the ball movement 😷 he makes your offense one dimensional and limit your options because players can't play off of him at all leaving you to rely only on him💯 His game is literally built for the 00s, 90s, or 80s not 10s 👀 If your star player can't play in a Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Raptors, Pacers, or Warriors type of offense/defense with stars and skill players in this modern day league you're not gonna win a lot of games or championships 😩 Paul was underwhelming and Melo was a black hole, not forgeting neither of em can't play team defense along with Westbrook 😶 Thunder should trade Westbrook honestly lol I love Westbrook, but you're not gonna win much with the way he plays LMFAO Plus he's a super athletic guard that relies on talent and freak athleticism, they sell tickets, but their game don't age well in their latter years plus he's 29 going on 30 😌 Just get the draft picks for him while you can and start the rebuilding process asap 🙏 Trust me, I'm a Westbrook fan, but let's be real...yeah and by the way Melo gonna stay because no team gonna pick him up haha honestly at this point Westbrook isn't even a top 5 guard or player! He's roughly a top 10 guard or player at that! Top 15 definitely, but anything higher than that you're pushing it! I can name 4-14 players that I'll choose over Westbrook 😑 They should pull a Jimmy Johnson and Herchel Walker trade him 😌

Jr smith Steve Novak Shall I proceed

J Glenn Lol... this clown is really gonna say Melo made JR and Novak good? Lol

fvpbz54 name a year they were better

Max S people need to stop comparing the best player in the world (LeBron) to others... LeBron can play anywhere..

Switched up? Are you high

Javian Johnson lol this not why they lost

The reason why Ginobili is a Legend

Javian Johnson so never mind Russ shot 43 times right only making 18 of them that means when was 25 times he missed or took a bad shot 25 times a team mate of his could've scored or gained a good pass for a free throw attempt etc.....Russ is not a team player

Sonny Ankau Perfect

because WB 43 shots didnt matter

Luis Munoz well Jackson left the champion spurs to play with the hawks so yea he's not very smart

Luis Munoz dude has to be joking. That’s why he was smirking.

Charles Khoilan Ikr, it's starting to become an obsession for these guys.

Because shannon. Lol

Timothy Francis starting????

Facts

Kia Amire everyone loves him? he is one of the most hated players in the league.

Kia Amire I agree and I think on top of changing his game he needs to fire his stylist.

That would be nice but Melo would retire before he comes off the bench

You can only young once but immature forever

Kia Amire Manu always came off the bench.Wtf are you saying?

You know some basketball bro.

Kenneth Clemente Westbrook's basketball IQ is average in a good game, shooting mechanics are suspect, teammates can't play off of him, his game is exciting yet inconsistent, and he stops the ball movement 😷 he makes your offense one dimensional and limit your options because players can't play off of him at all leaving you to rely only on him💯 His game is literally built for the 00s, 90s, or 80s not 10s 👀 If your star player can't play in a Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Raptors, Pacers, or Warriors type of offense/defense with stars and skill players in this modern day league you're not gonna win a lot of games or championships 😩 Paul was underwhelming and Melo was a black hole, not forgeting neither of em can't play team defense along with Westbrook 😶 Thunder should trade Westbrook honestly lol I love Westbrook, but you're not gonna win much with the way he plays LMFAO Plus he's a super athletic guard that relies on talent and freak athleticism, they sell tickets, but their game don't age well in their latter years plus he's 29 going on 30 😌 Just get the draft picks for him while you can and start the rebuilding process asap 🙏 Trust me, I'm a Westbrook fan, but let's be real...yeah and by the way Melo gonna stay because no team gonna pick him up haha honestly at this point Westbrook isn't even a top 5 guard or player! He's roughly a top 10 guard or player at that! Top 15 definitely, but anything higher than that you're pushing it! I can name 4-14 players that I'll choose over Westbrook 😑 They should pull a Jimmy Johnson and Herchel Walker trade him 😌

Tyeksa! right definitely had nothing to do with the thunder having some of the worst posessions of all time down the stretch.

The Hippo I agree with almost everything you said, that he’s not efficient, sometimes he takes low quality shots, his iQ isn’t as high as it should. However, he’s without a doubt a top 10 player in the game, he’s top 5-7 easily. He’s the most athletic PG not only in the league but ever, he’s the most explosive PG in the game, he’s a good passer, the best rebounding PG in the league, and is capable of being an elite defender. And he plays with tenacity and aggression, which mirrors all time greats such as Kobe, MJ etc.

pg13 and melo bricking open shots isnt on russ

Adam K Melo was barely taking any shots.

Do you know how to write a sentence? Haha.

Preach !!

Devonta Harris Westbrook's basketball IQ is average in a good game, shooting mechanics are suspect, teammates can't play off of him, his game is exciting yet inconsistent, and he stops the ball movement 😷 he makes your offense one dimensional and limit your options because players can't play off of him at all leaving you to rely only on him💯 His game is literally built for the 00s, 90s, or 80s not 10s 👀 If your star player can't play in a Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Raptors, Pacers, or Warriors type of offense/defense with stars and skill players in this modern day league you're not gonna win a lot of games or championships 😩 Paul was underwhelming and Melo was a black hole, not forgeting neither of em can't play team defense along with Westbrook 😶 Thunder should trade Westbrook honestly lol I love Westbrook, but you're not gonna win much with the way he plays LMFAO Plus he's a super athletic guard that relies on talent and freak athleticism, they sell tickets, but their game don't age well in their latter years plus he's 29 going on 30 😌 Just get the draft picks for him while you can and start the rebuilding process asap 🙏 Trust me, I'm a Westbrook fan, but let's be real...yeah and by the way Melo gonna stay because no team gonna pick him up haha honestly at this point Westbrook isn't even a top 5 guard or player! He's roughly a top 10 guard or player at that! Top 15 definitely, but anything higher than that you're pushing it! I can name 4-14 players that I'll choose over Westbrook 😑 They should pull a Jimmy Johnson and Herchel Walker trade him 😌

He can't win without the best team ever because he couldn't play, while KD did

Look at 2015-16 vs the warriors kd was also on that team you have two superstars who both choked 3 games in a row stop only blaming Westbrook and its not like he left snd went to just another team he went to the team that just made the finals back to back years who had just won 73 games who had just BEAT THEM Thats why hes a snake he didn’t go to a 40 win team he went to a team that had just beat them

Game 5 kd shoots 12-31 38 percent scores 40 somehow then westbrook scored 31 on 11-21 shooting they still lost by 10 next game kd 10-31 32 percent westbrook 10-27 37 percent both had 28 lost by 7 then game 7 which was like the only game kd shot over 50% i think.but he shot 10-19 27 points westbrook 7-21 19 points so clearly both of them were choking you cNt just blame Westbrook hes always been a bad shooter Westbrook is a career 43 percent fg shooter kd is 50% for his career but that series kd attemped 24 fgs per game and shot a 42 percent Westbrook shot 22 fgs per game and shot 39% from the field

If there was one thing KD is right you can never win with russ? Russ thinks he's a leader when he's not oh, he's just a co-captain

I think it could be a challenge and one I would love to see. I just hate to think Russ is going to play the rest of his career at 100 MPH and we all know he's not going anywhere w/ OKC. It would also be a great story for the NBA and if a coach like POP could transform Russ into a better player.

This would never happen. Pops has talked about how he goes about getting players. The players that they take are ones who they believe are willing to try and fit into the system and the mindset. Westbrick does not fit the mold and wont every try to change.

tyrone bates Russ isn't a system player lol Pop isn't going to take a player who shoots 30 to 40 times and has the attitude like Russ

Exactly! I know I'm wishful thinking here but I just think it could be an Epic story if a player like Russ could turn it around.

Raymond Liang that’s why pop wanted dejounte Murray to learn from playing against russ lool

Cap

So russel with 46 points made them lose the game

its a double edged sword when hes keeping them in a game alone because it gives him the confidence to chuck up shots like that airballed 30 footer off the inbounds down the stretch lol. hes just as good at shooting the thunder out of games as he is keeping them in them.

mike murphy then why doesnt the coach make him stop?

flame1113 because okc is westbrooks team this is a superstars league now

flame1113 you think those were good shots he was airballing down the stretch?

gabe newland Steven Adams shot 9/11. Instead of looking to drive and dump it to him like a point guard would do trying to get it to whoever has a hot hand, Westbrook jacked up long 3s and he's not a good enough 3 point shooter to justify taking that many 3s

WESTBROKED

Yeah see you taking 40 shots a game in 1st round again.

Ya keep talking cause he making 200 million what are you making

Rudy Cooper lol ofc he takes 40 shots dude his second best player who is a star went 2/16.

DEK TRAN broke?

David Glasco theyve had 2 coaches under WB... when do they blame coach? Russ won MVP, what has billy or brooks done?..

David Glasco it is coaching, casual NBA fans like you dont realize how important coaching is. If you cant control your guys it is coaching.

David Glasco Westbrook's basketball IQ is average in a good game, shooting mechanics are suspect, teammates can't play off of him, his game is exciting yet inconsistent, and he stops the ball movement 😷 he makes your offense one dimensional and limit your options because players can't play off of him at all leaving you to rely only on him💯 His game is literally built for the 00s, 90s, or 80s not 10s 👀 If your star player can't play in a Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Raptors, Pacers, or Warriors type of offense/defense with stars and skill players in this modern day league you're not gonna win a lot of games or championships 😩 Paul was underwhelming and Melo was a black hole, not forgeting neither of em can't play team defense along with Westbrook 😶 Thunder should trade Westbrook honestly lol I love Westbrook, but you're not gonna win much with the way he plays LMFAO Plus he's a super athletic guard that relies on talent and freak athleticism, they sell tickets, but their game don't age well in their latter years plus he's 29 going on 30 😌 Just get the draft picks for him while you can and start the rebuilding process asap 🙏 Trust me, I'm a Westbrook fan, but let's be real...yeah and by the way Melo gonna stay because no team gonna pick him up haha honestly at this point Westbrook isn't even a top 5 guard or player! He's roughly a top 10 guard or player at that! Top 15 definitely, but anything higher than that you're pushing it! I can name 4-14 players that I'll choose over Westbrook 😑 They should pull a Jimmy Johnson and Herchel Walker trade him 😌

Cory Fessenden righttttt because coaches always have control over their players lol. Only coach in the league with control over his team is Pop who is arguably the goat. Nobody can control Westbrook. You rather have a guy averaging a triple double or a guy brining in championships. Casual NBA fans like you don’t care about rings though right?

flame1113 I’m not saying the coaches are off the hook but look at it from a logical standpoint. Who is going to always be the first to blame in these situations? People claim the coach doesn’t do enough but why don’t we point fingers at the star of the team either?

ziggywashere Westbrook's basketball IQ is average in a good game, shooting mechanics are suspect, teammates can't play off of him, his game is exciting yet inconsistent, and he stops the ball movement 😷 he makes your offense one dimensional and limit your options because players can't play off of him at all leaving you to rely only on him💯 His game is literally built for the 00s, 90s, or 80s not 10s 👀 If your star player can't play in a Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Raptors, Pacers, or Warriors type of offense/defense with stars and skill players in this modern day league you're not gonna win a lot of games or championships 😩 Paul was underwhelming and Melo was a black hole, not forgeting neither of em can't play team defense along with Westbrook 😶 Thunder should trade Westbrook honestly lol I love Westbrook, but you're not gonna win much with the way he plays LMFAO Plus he's a super athletic guard that relies on talent and freak athleticism, they sell tickets, but their game don't age well in their latter years plus he's 29 going on 30 😌 Just get the draft picks for him while you can and start the rebuilding process asap 🙏 Trust me, I'm a Westbrook fan, but let's be real...yeah and by the way Melo gonna stay because no team gonna pick him up haha honestly at this point Westbrook isn't even a top 5 guard or player! He's roughly a top 10 guard or player at that! Top 15 definitely, but anything higher than that you're pushing it! I can name 4-14 players that I'll choose over Westbrook 😑 They should pull a Jimmy Johnson and Herchel Walker trade him 😌

Who did Russ choke? Russ is not his team player but KD and Melo and Oladipo and PG13 always choke in the playoffs with Russ

Which shows you why nobody wants to play with him.

Didn't he have 45 points? how many points did Melo and PG have again?

KD is a coward tho

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ArchAngelEmmanuel yeah it was alcohol poisoning, dude he was hungover😂😂 But he is the GOAT so he pushed through.

ArchAngelEmmanuel 💯💯💯

ill take russ on my team anyday

haha

Wolves bandwagon fan since 1998 True! It was 1997 tho