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Stephen's A-List: Top 5 Point Guards *if Chris Paul wins a title | First Take
Stephen A. Smith breaks down his list of the top 5 PGs of all time if CP3 wins a title.
1. Magic Johnson
2. Stephen Curry
3. Oscar Robertson
4. Isiah Thomas
5. Chris Paul
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@nathandiaz5195
@nathandiaz5195 3 года назад
Is it just me or is it weird seeing Stephen and Max agree? 😂🤣😂
@harrisonlayden6796
@harrisonlayden6796 3 года назад
Yes
@jeanrosa4393
@jeanrosa4393 3 года назад
Lol 😂
@oldchannel9631
@oldchannel9631 3 года назад
@J. P he really doesn't but ok
@VictorA01
@VictorA01 3 года назад
@J. P ratio
@Numbers-mc2ks
@Numbers-mc2ks 3 года назад
@J. P this comment is why I don’t like white ppl 🤣
@shujinkirito1898
@shujinkirito1898 3 года назад
After he said it’s perfect he walked off like you knew it brother 😭
@draco484
@draco484 3 года назад
loved it 😂
@RockyUchiha29
@RockyUchiha29 3 года назад
3:46
@justthemessager6225
@justthemessager6225 3 года назад
Max: "It's perfect" SAS: "You're Wrong! but what else is new"
@justthemessager6225
@justthemessager6225 3 года назад
Max: "It's perfect" SAS: "You're Wrong! but what else is new"
@oneflowerninjamagic1912
@oneflowerninjamagic1912 3 года назад
Bruh, STOP. you mean 'Just the Hilariously ridiculousy funny Messager' !
@noaheast7600
@noaheast7600 3 года назад
Finally some all time kind of respect for Steph Curry.
@kennethli8
@kennethli8 3 года назад
I grew up as a Warriors fan since the 1990s. Stephen Curry chokes quite often during the Finals, especially if the defender plays physical defense.
@ZfromBrooklyn
@ZfromBrooklyn 3 года назад
@@kennethli8 Sharpshooting is a finesse element
@KCunknwn
@KCunknwn 3 года назад
@Dennis Leavitt man even IF he wanted to put curry on here not 2 creep him in 5 but you’re absolutely right he’s a shooting guard and Stephen A explained why he is one most of his work is off the ball he doesn’t set the play he’s just a big piece Stockton belongs with Nash making a strong case you can’t really pull something together to make Kidd top 5 all belong on the list before curry and not a knock on him just not a true point guard
@MoreMotionPod
@MoreMotionPod 3 года назад
@Dennis Leavitt White folk don’t make SAS list
@mdrifaturrahman4443
@mdrifaturrahman4443 3 года назад
He kept him in his all time 5 list as well
@jh8077
@jh8077 3 года назад
I swear I’ve never seen Max’s full body in the screen before 😭😭🤣
@wind964
@wind964 3 года назад
then you started watching first take last year
@KPRackz
@KPRackz 3 года назад
@@wind964 right
@bradstevens4914
@bradstevens4914 3 года назад
He’s beautiful
@tedgrover3883
@tedgrover3883 3 года назад
I swear 😂😂
@nathan_drake1237
@nathan_drake1237 3 года назад
We've seen him during the Cowboys games in Arlington
@QriousIgloos
@QriousIgloos 3 года назад
Not gonna lie, I thought Max was gonna go up there and be like "Steph is good but, "greatest halfcourt offense..."" and then move him down to 5 lol
@taimurabid5135
@taimurabid5135 3 года назад
"Fate of the universe on the line"
@Phori859
@Phori859 3 года назад
I want Eagle Dolla
@DuragVon
@DuragVon 3 года назад
@@Phori859 “Eagle dolla”😭
@supernotnatural
@supernotnatural 3 года назад
WHERE IS *IGUODALA*
@QriousIgloos
@QriousIgloos 3 года назад
@@Phori859 Give me Boban for the last shot
@rickwiglyjr7422
@rickwiglyjr7422 3 года назад
John Stockton or Steve Nash deff need a shout out even Jason Kidd, Bob Cousy, and Jerry West.
@youngbae5187
@youngbae5187 2 года назад
Stockton is 6th. If Paul wins a championship, he's ahead of Stockton, I don't think you can say otherwise. Stockton didn't win.
@marqkuisphillip2295
@marqkuisphillip2295 2 года назад
West is an sg
@popout1488
@popout1488 2 года назад
@@marqkuisphillip2295 he can play both
@westhoodqualzini7884
@westhoodqualzini7884 Год назад
@@youngbae5187 cp3 didn’t have to play against Michael Jordan
@boombro4705
@boombro4705 3 года назад
So we’re doing ifs now? Hahaha 🤣 I would honestly agree with it even if CP3 doesn’t win the chip.
@easymoneyrad
@easymoneyrad 3 года назад
he not top 5 without a chip
@thebasketballhistorian3291
@thebasketballhistorian3291 3 года назад
Without a chip, Jason Kidd is above him. Kidd led a 26-win Nets team to 2x Finals in his first seasons with them. CP3 hasn't even been to the Finals yet. At 37, Kidd transformed himself into 3-point shooter and helped the Mavs win a championship vs the Heat superteam. Internationally, Kidd has more FIBA golds than CP3.
@yungogenies4279
@yungogenies4279 3 года назад
@@thebasketballhistorian3291 bruh the east was weakest it’s ever been at that time cp3 took a lottery team to the playoffs. He also took New Orleans to the playoffs. Kidd is so overrated it’s ridiculous
@vvthetalentlessduo6976
@vvthetalentlessduo6976 3 года назад
Ok
@kingsaucey1419
@kingsaucey1419 3 года назад
@@easymoneyrad prime cp3 is better than curry.
@chriscollazo9097
@chriscollazo9097 3 года назад
Did these dudes just agree and show love to each other 😧😂
@sunhicks5
@sunhicks5 3 года назад
@Chris Collazo...I know man! Can you believe that ish?!?🤯🤯 Lol!😆😆
@willwillson9064
@willwillson9064 3 года назад
John Stockton deserves to be in that board more than everyone but magic just sayin... all time assist leader by almost 4K assists... it’s pretty common sense
@Jason-fk2bi
@Jason-fk2bi 3 года назад
@@willwillson9064 stop it he’s not better dan Steph
@willwillson9064
@willwillson9064 3 года назад
@@Jason-fk2bi the only thing Steph is better Han Stockton on is shooting... and the three pointer wasn’t nearly what it is today... the dude has 4K more assists than the closest person to him lol... he’s second only to magic
@loststoryproductions
@loststoryproductions 3 года назад
@@willwillson9064 naw gotta have at least one chip And this list is IF CP3 wins a title. If he doesn’t then Stockton at the 5 spot for me
@claud.5664
@claud.5664 3 года назад
As much as I don’t particularly agree with this dude very often, you gotta recognise he’s a genius when it comes to entertainment and holding a stage
@jinxterpinxter
@jinxterpinxter 3 года назад
Definitely.
@harrymic75
@harrymic75 3 года назад
The man is a work horse. Still works harder than new people in the biz
@___m7425
@___m7425 3 года назад
I do like 75% of the time
@sunhicks5
@sunhicks5 3 года назад
Yes indeed!!✔️✔️
@moneyway8178
@moneyway8178 3 года назад
How it’s a great list
@cedricbarrrow6538
@cedricbarrrow6538 3 года назад
It's the way these dudes show love from time to time 💪🏾👏🏾✊🏾
@regal394
@regal394 3 года назад
Great list
@user-mm3mp3ys2j
@user-mm3mp3ys2j 3 года назад
We all have a friend like Stephen A Smith, that thinks if he's loud, he will always be right!!!
@KPRackz
@KPRackz 3 года назад
Then dont watch simple
@Gd-jq6mz
@Gd-jq6mz 3 года назад
@@KPRackz no it's fun to watch clowns
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 3 года назад
@@KPRackz People watch to laugh at him not be informed 😂
@maanasravishankar5465
@maanasravishankar5465 3 года назад
Lol
@roblunquest3311
@roblunquest3311 3 года назад
Lmao bruh I’m dying hahah
@brandonb2375
@brandonb2375 3 года назад
John Stockton is criminally underrated
@justinfrazier3610
@justinfrazier3610 3 года назад
Isiah better
@srwarrior134
@srwarrior134 3 года назад
@@justinfrazier3610 nope Ring or no ring. Stockton is the best PG to play in my humble opinion
@michaelscott6357
@michaelscott6357 3 года назад
Stockton wasn't scoring like Steph or passing like Magic, but his court awareness was unmatched...
@dylanyang2195
@dylanyang2195 3 года назад
@@srwarrior134 might just be the worst take I've ever heard
@rollo48
@rollo48 3 года назад
I agree his all time career assists and steals might never be broken, very underrated defender too. Too bad he faced MJ or he would've won back to back with malone
@blakehansen8284
@blakehansen8284 3 года назад
I literally assumed John Stockton would be #2. Wasn't he talking about pure point guards? It's IMPOSSIBLE to argue him out of the top 5 that's just absurd.
@ryanneale6501
@ryanneale6501 3 года назад
they never said “pure” pg’s
@sweatdecoy6667
@sweatdecoy6667 3 года назад
@MARVIN PETION amen
@justinthinkify
@justinthinkify 3 года назад
Love John Stockon. He should be ahead of Chris Paul. But Steph? Nah
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 3 года назад
Remember, it's "if cp3 wins a title." If Chris Paul has a ring, that puts him over Stockton, who doesn't
@lifeeofNiyaa_
@lifeeofNiyaa_ 2 года назад
0 rings, and averaging 13,1 points in his Career, 2.5 rebounds, and 10 assists. Sorry but 0 rings basically tells your impact for the team you were on like Stephen said
@lovenote1336
@lovenote1336 3 года назад
rarely you would hear Max say, “that’s perfect” haha.. I was really expecting him to make an argument xD
@SportNut1
@SportNut1 3 года назад
I thought Max is going to go "In 2016, in the last 4min of game 7....." when he sees Steph's name appears on a list
@thelast9112
@thelast9112 3 года назад
UNIVERSE ON THE LINE I WANT IGOUDALA
@shukrullahahmadi1531
@shukrullahahmadi1531 3 года назад
he got brainwashed, somehow he forgot that 2016 finals. he might have thinking at home how come he agrees on that list
@McGomezAddams
@McGomezAddams 3 года назад
The John Stockton disrespect is at an all time high
@regbanks7888
@regbanks7888 3 года назад
Yeah. Stockton is number 5 no doubt. Then kidd, then cp3
@porkadobo5035
@porkadobo5035 3 года назад
C'mon man, just cause he isn't in this dude's top 5 doesn't mean it's disrespectful. Think about it, the number of great PGs in the game is insane! At the end of the day, is it really stretching it to have him out of the Top 5?
@isit7189
@isit7189 3 года назад
@@porkadobo5035 he should be 3
@porkadobo5035
@porkadobo5035 3 года назад
@@isit7189 he COULD be 3. It isn't an objective topic. I'm sure a lot of people have him in their top 5. If you ask me hmmm probably top 4? I'd take Chris Paul out even if he wins a ring lol
@nakialee8436
@nakialee8436 3 года назад
Just take curry out
@MSWes922
@MSWes922 3 года назад
good list
@fortheqynn3503
@fortheqynn3503 3 года назад
No John Stockton or Steve Nash? I know you have to be kidding me right now, that's some wild disrespect.
@odieony7007
@odieony7007 3 года назад
theyre top 10. not making to 5 isn't disrespectful. jason kidd and tony parker to
@fortheqynn3503
@fortheqynn3503 3 года назад
@@odieony7007 one of them needs to be im there, not saying both. Best pure assisters in history.
@fortheqynn3503
@fortheqynn3503 3 года назад
@Fbg Duck one of them needs to be in there without a doubt, I can understanding saying one or the other honestly. 2 best assisters in NBA history imo.
@parkerbrady2617
@parkerbrady2617 3 года назад
Bro I am a mavs fan and absolutely love Steve nash and no he does not belong on a top 5 pg list. Same with Stockton, he lost to Jordan with Karl Malone on his team. I know Jordan is great but isiah beat him a couple times. Stockton is a great player and is top 10 but you have to cut off somewhere and he does not beat any of these guys.
@fortheqynn3503
@fortheqynn3503 3 года назад
@@parkerbrady2617 lol being a Mavs fan does not somehow lend to your credibility here; the Mavs traded Nash and he then became a back-to-back MVP with the Suns and the best PG of his time.
@whoisthelegend24
@whoisthelegend24 3 года назад
Thought Max was gonna say "Damian Lillard is more clutch than Steph Curry"
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony 3 года назад
He is
@AkishJ94
@AkishJ94 3 года назад
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony He was double teamed the last game with Denver couldn't get more than 30. On a fully stacked Blazers team.
@calmdownbruh8518
@calmdownbruh8518 3 года назад
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony not past the first round, he isn't.
@stephankelly2956
@stephankelly2956 3 года назад
He is more clutch than curry he has the most clutch points in nba history it’s not his fault curry gets doubled teamed tell curry to learn how to iso like lilard
@kevinreiner1526
@kevinreiner1526 3 года назад
“Iguodala is more clutch than Steph Curry”
@NuradinAlas
@NuradinAlas 3 года назад
How do you not have John Stockton in your top 5 all time Point Guards list
@jdilla4591
@jdilla4591 3 года назад
Cuz he’s not
@mikerobertson8540
@mikerobertson8540 3 года назад
Because he is a white man.
@karanveerdhillon7867
@karanveerdhillon7867 3 года назад
Because he’s not better than any of the guys on that list
@Jospeh378
@Jospeh378 3 года назад
@@mikerobertson8540 yeah
@letmegetuhhh3959
@letmegetuhhh3959 3 года назад
Ok so if cp3 wins the title, who should Stockton be over on the list. Stockton nasty but those are a fair 5 above him
@boyreak9388
@boyreak9388 3 года назад
I like the way he ranks up the Pg all time .
@raylin9276
@raylin9276 Год назад
One of the best lists so far ngl
@rabi6615
@rabi6615 3 года назад
Wow.. Probably the first time Max didn't take a dig at Steph
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony 3 года назад
There’s no need to spit facts about Steph but max knows he’s around 2-4 on that list
@calmdownbruh8518
@calmdownbruh8518 3 года назад
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony No. He's definitely 2. You tried though.
@KG-ig5uy
@KG-ig5uy 3 года назад
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony Steph is top 2 and he ain’t the 2 no more
@heyyy6068
@heyyy6068 3 года назад
@@KG-ig5uy ehhhh. I'm a huuuuuge curry fan but ill say curry #2 until he gets 1 more ring or MVP. But I like your thinking.
@KG-ig5uy
@KG-ig5uy 3 года назад
@@heyyy6068 understandable, But I still think Curry is better but Magic greater
@onetwo8847
@onetwo8847 3 года назад
Honorable mention to GP, arguably the greatest defensive guard of all time whilst simultaneously being a 24 and 9 guy at the other end at his peak. people sleep on defense
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 3 года назад
True
@ashishthekkedom2947
@ashishthekkedom2947 3 года назад
Never understood why Gary Payton is so underrated. He was never flashy so maybe that’s why
@reedplayin7444
@reedplayin7444 3 года назад
Gary Payton not on nobody level on that list
@onetwo8847
@onetwo8847 3 года назад
@@reedplayin7444 That's why I literally said "honorable mention"... 🙄 ironic how your name is "Reed" but you don't actually bother reading lol
@janseanmarwyn4703
@janseanmarwyn4703 3 года назад
@@ashishthekkedom2947 Payton was flashy AF wdym. He's flashier than CP3 and Thomas on this list Just that no one sensible enough would rank him over anyone in this list. I'd even rank him lower than Nash, Stockton, Kidd and possibly Russ
@cacallis86
@cacallis86 3 года назад
😤 yeah that list is legit
@zahikhoury1409
@zahikhoury1409 3 года назад
Give me Steve Nash over CP3 any day of the week !! The man is a 2x MVP🤦‍♂️
@cameronno6039
@cameronno6039 3 года назад
SN is so far below CP3 it isn't even funny... and that's before even considering defense.
@gtamusicgroup570
@gtamusicgroup570 2 года назад
NASH GOT NO DEFENSE
@c-meezy765
@c-meezy765 3 года назад
PG is the deepest position of all-time. You could do a top 20 and still feel someone got snubbed.
@richarjimenez4991
@richarjimenez4991 3 года назад
The 2 and 3 are the deepest position of greats.
@larrybird5884
@larrybird5884 3 года назад
The Center are by far the deepest position all time. Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem, Moses, David Robinson, Ewing, etc
@MEMPHISYOUTUBICATION
@MEMPHISYOUTUBICATION 3 года назад
@@larrybird5884 Nah bro the top 5 you listed are leagues above the rest
@imcoolwiththat9668
@imcoolwiththat9668 3 года назад
@@larrybird5884 you said the deepest and you named all the best.. you can put that same comment and no one willl argue you.. thats how "depth" works.. pg is the deepest
@janseanmarwyn4703
@janseanmarwyn4703 3 года назад
Nah Centers are, all the other 4 positions at the very least have consensus "greatest" (Magic for PG, Jordan for SG, Lebron for SF, Timmy for PF) but when I say someone like Hakeem is the greates Center of all time, people will compare him with guys like Shaq, Wilt, Russell etc.
@ultrascreens5206
@ultrascreens5206 3 года назад
Nice to know Max has legs! 👍
@M1Ascoutsquad45
@M1Ascoutsquad45 3 года назад
We knew it was Magic before he even started talking
@presidential3228
@presidential3228 3 года назад
curry over magic any day
@db-hj9cu
@db-hj9cu 3 года назад
@@presidential3228 favorite 2 players ever. You sound a lil crazy though lol
@presidential3228
@presidential3228 3 года назад
@@db-hj9cu Bro, curry is the best shooter god has ever created. you pick magic over curry u trippin
@db-hj9cu
@db-hj9cu 3 года назад
@@presidential3228 curry the best shooter right. No doubt about that. Magic didn't have to be the best shooter because magic could play any position. Curry changed basketball completely because you can somewhat replicate his game just not nearly as effectively. Magic is the ONLY player that could play 1 thru 5 and dominate.
@db-hj9cu
@db-hj9cu 3 года назад
@@presidential3228 bron can play 1-4 now effectively luka 1-4 kd 2-5. Magic the only player ever 1-5 and you lose nothing.
@tmot6714
@tmot6714 3 года назад
I think people forget how high Cp3’s ceiling was in New Orleans and La. He’s also a top 5 talent at Pg.
@i.m1029
@i.m1029 3 года назад
Honorable Mention : Jason Kidd (if your talking about pure floor generals)
@x_x4709
@x_x4709 3 года назад
Agreed I also think when lamelo's career is over is 15 years or so he will be in this conversation of best floor generals also but Jason Kidd is definitely a top floor general his court IQ is off the charts
@robwayne1334
@robwayne1334 3 года назад
He would def be at 6 but could easily be 5 on this list
@crackhead2210
@crackhead2210 3 года назад
Nash?
@robwayne1334
@robwayne1334 3 года назад
Nash top 10 I wouldn’t say top 5 .he forgot about Stockton . Stockton gotta be up there top 5 if not right os of it atleast as well .
@crackhead2210
@crackhead2210 3 года назад
@@robwayne1334 Stockton was overrated...
@RationalTalkTV
@RationalTalkTV 3 года назад
If he doesn’t tho Stockton is 5 and should’ve been an honorable mention
@gureyg3795
@gureyg3795 3 года назад
That's why he said if CP3 wins a ring lol Stockton is unlucky not to be 5
@melvindemkebell4034
@melvindemkebell4034 3 года назад
Paul without ring still better
@walttalks5979
@walttalks5979 3 года назад
No he shouldn’t lol
@mustang268
@mustang268 3 года назад
@Mustafa Mohamud having rings does not prove anything jerry west should be top 5 and cp3 shouldn't be on it since he has 0
@spykeex69
@spykeex69 3 года назад
May not have a ring, but he has 2 of the 5 main stats of the NBA and they'll never be beat
@alphatrusbensiii8381
@alphatrusbensiii8381 3 года назад
Teach Em SAS! I love this segment
@Coachvinoo
@Coachvinoo 3 года назад
Once I saw Stockton left off this, I knew it was immediately irrelevant
@OldChanCharlie
@OldChanCharlie 3 года назад
Right? Dude leads the nba in assists and steals by a mile
@bogaj3744
@bogaj3744 3 года назад
It says provided he wins a chip
@bogaj3744
@bogaj3744 3 года назад
If not it’s Stockton or nash
@michaelyang1277
@michaelyang1277 3 года назад
It's cause he's white.
@swagteam.gaming9138
@swagteam.gaming9138 3 года назад
@@michaelyang1277 😂😂😂😂😂man stfu
@Hooperd2023
@Hooperd2023 3 года назад
*John Stockton* is an honorable mention. I still have a hard time with putting cp3 before him.
@cherylparker6060
@cherylparker6060 3 года назад
The list is valid IF CP3 wins a chip this year, and it's hard to argue against that. The reason is rather simple: Stockton had Malone and still never won a chip.
@Ddgcortes
@Ddgcortes 3 года назад
yeah i feel the same with Steve Nash and Kidd
@charliebarkshire4320
@charliebarkshire4320 3 года назад
@@cherylparker6060 I understand your point but at the same time CP3 never played against Jordan
@cherylparker6060
@cherylparker6060 3 года назад
@@charliebarkshire4320 he could've won in 94,94,99 etc. And CP3 took an Oklahoman City team to the playoffs last year and almost beat the rockets with little to no help. Sure, Schroeder was good and Adams was decent, but the way CP3 impacts a team is amazing.
@coryevans4726
@coryevans4726 3 года назад
@@charliebarkshire4320 CP3 played in the West his whole career against the Spurs dynasty, Warriors dynasty, Kobe’s Lakers, Durant’s Thunder, now Lebron’s Lakers. It’s not like he didn’t play great teams just because he “didn’t play Jordan” like Stockton did.
@codygibbs7841
@codygibbs7841 3 года назад
Yo I don't think I've ever seen Max's full body
@lukadahmer8249
@lukadahmer8249 3 года назад
You just watched First Take last year
@westcoast7662
@westcoast7662 3 года назад
PAUSE 😂
@codygibbs7841
@codygibbs7841 3 года назад
@@lukadahmer8249 incorrect
@hiiiiii9886
@hiiiiii9886 3 года назад
@@codygibbs7841 casual
@codygibbs7841
@codygibbs7841 3 года назад
@@hiiiiii9886 most segments he's in a chair
@xZaaminator
@xZaaminator 3 года назад
Very solid list, this I can respect.
@vinnybrown1122
@vinnybrown1122 3 года назад
This is my exact list
@joshhumbert1130
@joshhumbert1130 3 года назад
I would swap Zeke and Big O and it's perfect
@Doknot-tb9ey
@Doknot-tb9ey 3 года назад
Its still perfect regardless. Big O was better than Zeke.
@natutz
@natutz 3 года назад
It’s hard to gauge players especially when they played in different eras. I kinda agree with his list though but not in particular order
@vinnybrown1122
@vinnybrown1122 3 года назад
Wow you think really highly of Zeke. Where do you rank Zeke all time? I’m just curious I won’t argue or anything
@ashishbehal5903
@ashishbehal5903 3 года назад
2:46 that pass was sick
@MrAugustBlack
@MrAugustBlack 3 года назад
Ok. So I'm not the only one who was watching that. Magic was amazing
@coreyzimmerman9782
@coreyzimmerman9782 3 года назад
Magic in 4 years: high school nat champ, college title...nba title🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
@aglb19
@aglb19 3 года назад
It’s perfect...”thank you very much”😂😂😂
@colemyer9020
@colemyer9020 3 года назад
I would put Stockton or Nash in the 5 as of rn, but with a chip, I’m super content with this list!!
@jonrussell739
@jonrussell739 3 года назад
I love this list. Good representation across eras.
@sunhicks5
@sunhicks5 3 года назад
I agree!!👍🏾👍🏾
@stevehorn646
@stevehorn646 3 года назад
Stockton over Paul
@jonrussell739
@jonrussell739 3 года назад
@@stevehorn646 I'm good with Stockton over Paul if CP3 never wins a championship. Stockton was a beast. He owns both the steals and assist records. I will say, CP3 is one of the best players in history with one of my favorite stats winshares/48. For a while, he was above MJ. So if he got a championship, I'd have to give him the nod.
@Nuhuh764
@Nuhuh764 2 года назад
@@stevehorn646 no 🥺
@stevehorn646
@stevehorn646 2 года назад
@@Nuhuh764 Lowry is better than Paul.
@optimistic1__299
@optimistic1__299 3 года назад
Max wanted to move Curry so bad of that list 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lamartecnico7754
@lamartecnico7754 3 года назад
he isn't a floor General. He is a great shooter.
@mikejefferson8161
@mikejefferson8161 3 года назад
@@lamartecnico7754 facts
@tyrencrafton1814
@tyrencrafton1814 3 года назад
But he's not a floor general he shouldn't be anywhere near this list
@marqkuisphillip2295
@marqkuisphillip2295 3 года назад
@@tyrencrafton1814 just Beacuse u aren’t a floor general doesn’t mean u aren’t a pg🤦🏾‍♂️
@tyrencrafton1814
@tyrencrafton1814 3 года назад
@@marqkuisphillip2295 But that's not what the list was about it wasn't top 5 pgs it was top 5 Floor general at the pg position
@cyrillkuhn1309
@cyrillkuhn1309 3 года назад
that's a good list. like not good for people who don't know basketball but just a good list in generall. I'm impressed
@moodmusic787
@moodmusic787 3 года назад
WOW Max Agreed! That's Keeping It 100! Good Job Max! Stephen A Definitely On Point With This List!
@micah5ive490
@micah5ive490 3 года назад
Gotta respect the love Stephen A. Showing love to Steph
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 3 года назад
There's no way he's better than Isaiah Thomas.
@footballsuperstarandgamepl848
@footballsuperstarandgamepl848 3 года назад
@@andrejamison2723 plz stop
@angeldominguez2414
@angeldominguez2414 3 года назад
@@andrejamison2723 he is better. Much better.
@brozay7855
@brozay7855 3 года назад
Yea but he’s giving magic wild head when that one spot should be occupied by someone else
@curryis828
@curryis828 Год назад
​@@angeldominguez2414 that's a good joke 😂
@andersenlouw3306
@andersenlouw3306 3 года назад
John Stockton just keeps getting disrespected 🤦‍♂️
@ryanhebertson7457
@ryanhebertson7457 3 года назад
FR, He’s Stockton but with better career numbers and more finals appearances
@kcizzlewilson1260
@kcizzlewilson1260 3 года назад
Agreed 💯. Pure disrespect.
@Rohit-nl7dy
@Rohit-nl7dy 3 года назад
Till now he is in 5th rank..cp3 after win can be a debate for him and cp3 bt he is not above all those 4..
@rastabanton
@rastabanton 3 года назад
this whole presentation gave me chills thats why we call him stephen A smith
@unratedent.6331
@unratedent.6331 3 года назад
Oscar Robinson finally getting some love!
@Lifeissimplebro
@Lifeissimplebro 3 года назад
Two of the top point guards all time are still active, appreciate them while they last
@yasirdavis1321
@yasirdavis1321 3 года назад
Dont you guys love it when they agree with each other lol.
@noahmanders7604
@noahmanders7604 3 года назад
This really is a perfect list
@TO8
@TO8 3 года назад
Stockton shot the ball well, he leads the league in assists and steals which may never be broken, especially the assists category, in my opinion, Stockton is in the top 5 list. Other notable mentions: Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook, Kyrie Irving and Derrick Rose (if he wasn't injured) would have been in that discussion.
@banditonehundred
@banditonehundred 2 года назад
Stephen A won’t put no white guy on his list. Stockton for sure is top 5
@baq8533
@baq8533 3 года назад
Fr I thought max was gonna bring up the 2016 finals again🤣🤣🤣
@brettt141
@brettt141 3 года назад
No John Stockton. Yeah wonder why SAS didnt put him on there
@Atribecalledsuccess
@Atribecalledsuccess 3 года назад
What is he without Malone? & he’s not the defender they are
@AntSeemion
@AntSeemion 3 года назад
Lmao he not top 5, white man
@samribz3320
@samribz3320 3 года назад
@@Atribecalledsuccess He’s the all time leader in steals and one of the pesky defenders of all time. Make sure you research before you start saying nonsense
@tbrcc636
@tbrcc636 3 года назад
Stockton who played 18 seasons with Malone and went to 2 finals and lost both?
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 3 года назад
Give me CP3 over Stockton. He was great but CP3 is a better player in my opinion.
@BigTweez9
@BigTweez9 3 года назад
Solid list Stephen A
@Mr.Wonderful888
@Mr.Wonderful888 3 года назад
I like the list
@adrian1080
@adrian1080 3 года назад
Best thing on first take is stephen a list
@leonellangston2009
@leonellangston2009 3 года назад
Top 4 is right but currently I'd have Nash or Stockton in 5 for sure....
@Om-vu3js
@Om-vu3js 3 года назад
Yup
@consciousm1nd
@consciousm1nd 3 года назад
Facts
@Deveaux5
@Deveaux5 3 года назад
If you gave me a choice between CP3 and Stockton im taking CP3 no hesistation.. Scorer: CP3 Pure Playmaker: CP3 Defense: Equal Leadership: CP3 Handles:CP3 Stockton has had the benefit playing alongside the #2 all-time scorer in Karl Malone, which is why his assist total is so inflated.. Stockton would be #6 for me and then Nash #7..
@triggermortis8252
@triggermortis8252 3 года назад
It's why he said "If CP3 wins a championship..." Why would you have those others who also don't have a championship? Stockton had Malone next to him for a very long career. Meanwhile, Paul has had 5 different teams playing very well (respective to their talent at the time).
@leonellangston2009
@leonellangston2009 3 года назад
@@Deveaux5 Nash has all those boxes checked apart from being 2x MVP.
@patricktaliauli1063
@patricktaliauli1063 2 года назад
Finally, a list list that is on point. Max “it’s perfect”
@dmj1419
@dmj1419 3 года назад
John Stockton is the all-time leader in assists AND steals and he's not top 5? He never had the privilege of playing with a super team like Steph.
@MrHastah
@MrHastah 3 года назад
Steph is where he is supposed to be but Stockton is missing this list because Stephen A is a known ràcist against white people and Europeans. That's all.
@Brandonizzle3
@Brandonizzle3 3 года назад
@@MrHastah 100% agree. I’ve noticed this over time. The dude never gives credit
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 3 года назад
Stockton isn't as great as y'all like to make him out to be. He played eith Malone his entire career and couldn't be a great enough 2nd star to win a title. Put any one of the top 5 pgs on this list with Malone and they lkely win at least 1 title. Some win at least 2. Stockton's great, but he's not in the top 5.
@Brandonizzle3
@Brandonizzle3 3 года назад
@@J-Hue you give CP3 with Malone and they still lose to Jordan. Stockton has been to the finals twice back to back against that team. All time assist and steals playing in the 90s which is much toucher than the cupcake eras Chris Paul has played in. Yes I know the list is ‘if he gets a ring’ but its flawed in design, lists are done in real time. Even as it stands now today 6/9/21 CP3 doesn’t come close to Stockton. Our opinions will differ so you can take the last words.
@SonSolo
@SonSolo 3 года назад
Stockton might be top ten, but not top five. He was good, I'm not going to downplay his career, but there's no way anyone who knows basketball would pick Stockton over those guys. The only argument would be for #6 maybe.
@michaelmouse4188
@michaelmouse4188 3 года назад
Max I ain't falling for that. I saw how you looked at Steph's position. Nah ah, ain't falling for "it's perfect" just like that... Say what you really thinking mate
@rm2124
@rm2124 3 года назад
No, if Max didn't agree he would tell him he doesn't agree lmao. The whole point in the show is to debate they literally are at each others throats constantly.
@Thatniggaxnate
@Thatniggaxnate 3 года назад
@@rm2124 their in denial lmao. Projecting there discontent on to Max lol
@rm2124
@rm2124 3 года назад
Nate Simpson fr Max the goat
@michaelmouse4188
@michaelmouse4188 3 года назад
@@Thatniggaxnate denial of what?
@phillipthomas1858
@phillipthomas1858 3 года назад
Magic is the best point guard ever along with being my favorite player of all time!
@Matthew-qx6ui
@Matthew-qx6ui Год назад
You guys should do top centers/power forwards of all time.
@menchetta5914
@menchetta5914 3 года назад
You’re right.
@codygibbs7841
@codygibbs7841 3 года назад
Nash or Stockton better be 6
@taimurabid5135
@taimurabid5135 3 года назад
Stockton underrated
@elijahf8
@elijahf8 3 года назад
Naaah, GP better be 6
@GBonYT
@GBonYT 3 года назад
without a title for CP3, stockton would be 5 and CP3 6 or 7
@MarcusLeonard307
@MarcusLeonard307 3 года назад
For a "floor general "stockton should be on that list.
@_zachmcall
@_zachmcall 3 года назад
steve nash might be the worst one on one defender in nba history
@redyoshi1873
@redyoshi1873 3 года назад
In my opinion, Chris Paul is a top 5 PG in the history of the NBA, even without a championship
@billpap.9669
@billpap.9669 3 года назад
Fair
@atom0824
@atom0824 3 года назад
Same Curry, Magic, CP3, Isaih, and Oscar
@yrgrobotics7474
@yrgrobotics7474 3 года назад
He’s probably also top 5 players to not win a championship as well in the NBA
@sir404
@sir404 3 года назад
Cp3 not more intelligent than Jason kid
@stansb37
@stansb37 3 года назад
Nah bro. I'll put Steve Nash or jason kidd above cp3 if he don't win a title. Both steve and j kidd had mvp seasons bruh.
@xtins
@xtins Год назад
100% agreed
@mehe387
@mehe387 2 года назад
Hahahaha that was funny Max 🤣
@jaycrew6967
@jaycrew6967 3 года назад
Had Stephen A not put Magic at number 1, I would never watch First Take ever word Great ever again. I agree with Stephen As list.
@shifuthastudent3955
@shifuthastudent3955 3 года назад
You agree with Stephen A's list? Are you born in the 90's or early 2000's? Not being sarcastic. Chris Paul over Gary Payton? Over Tony Parker?....the last Point Guard to win Finals MVP....not Steph. Chris Paul over Allen Iverson? Chris Paul over Jason Kidd?
@jaycrew6967
@jaycrew6967 3 года назад
@@shifuthastudent3955 I was born n 1989. And yes, I agree with Stephen As PG list.
@manniesupasport7977
@manniesupasport7977 3 года назад
@@shifuthastudent3955 Iverson is an undersized Shooting Guard CP3 is better than Tony Parker The rest are valid arguments
@shifuthastudent3955
@shifuthastudent3955 3 года назад
@@manniesupasport7977 Better than Tony Parker. How? When? ..... No team has ever run their offense for Chris Paul..... He's no better than Stockton at best. And Nowhere near Stockton as far as impact. Don't let time misconstrue Legends in your statement's simply for the sake of a argument. It's amazing how time displace one's impact.
@shifuthastudent3955
@shifuthastudent3955 3 года назад
@@manniesupasport7977 No he is not. He is who we thought he is.(Herm Edwards). A shoot first Point Guard. Eric snow may have ran point at times. But A.I., is and was a Point Guard.
@rnuke_rocket
@rnuke_rocket 3 года назад
CP3 is a Top 5 PG All-Time. Regardless of championship. Dude's always breaking records and also took down Bron's LA while also being at the same age as him. That's a huge statement tbh.
@adesanmijaiyeola5337
@adesanmijaiyeola5337 3 года назад
This is a flawless list.. phew!!
@repure1999
@repure1999 3 года назад
Magic made the NBA Lakers flash and dance 💃... I like this list S A!
@ZacharyAdu225
@ZacharyAdu225 3 года назад
Steph gonna be #1 real soon
@darrelljones3965
@darrelljones3965 3 года назад
Steph isn’t a point guard he’s a combo
@tuckisbad
@tuckisbad 3 года назад
I don’t think he will be the best, but he definitely could be
@brooklynmitrica577
@brooklynmitrica577 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@TGruls
@TGruls 3 года назад
Coming from Lebron? Sheesh
@samribz3320
@samribz3320 3 года назад
@@darrelljones3965 Who made that up? You?
@Doe_28_
@Doe_28_ 3 года назад
John Stockton is always disrespected
@mudkipdeetz8609
@mudkipdeetz8609 3 года назад
That’s what happens when your in a small market
@mudkipdeetz8609
@mudkipdeetz8609 3 года назад
@@karanveerdhillon7867 underrated is spelt with under before rated and not over before rated
@mudkipdeetz8609
@mudkipdeetz8609 3 года назад
@@karanveerdhillon7867 stats don’t lie Stockton is better than curry
@reallife0728
@reallife0728 3 года назад
YO I JUST SAID THAT!!!
@mudkipdeetz8609
@mudkipdeetz8609 3 года назад
@@karanveerdhillon7867 when your on bad teams you get better stats.that’s what you do
@yushaalauddin6499
@yushaalauddin6499 3 года назад
I love this mans energy (pause)
@logicallgaming
@logicallgaming 3 года назад
I want to know where the all time assist leader who is also the all time leader in steals is on his best point guards. Those records might as well be like wilt's because no one is close enough to beat Stocktons records for either.
@w912smith
@w912smith 3 года назад
All ik is Rajon Rondo gotta be considered at least in the top 10-15 PGs he has won with both the Lakers and Celtics and in his prime as a floor general he was amazing
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 3 года назад
On championship squads, Rondo is just a good role player. He shouldn't even be in the top 25.
@yabootzyyy6809
@yabootzyyy6809 3 года назад
I agree I just wish he got teamed up with superstars in his prime. The team mates he had in Boston were beyond their primes.
@sethcraven
@sethcraven 3 года назад
I’d take John Stockton over CP3
@mattsipes6186
@mattsipes6186 3 года назад
EXACTLY
@jasonforester7292
@jasonforester7292 3 года назад
I'm not taking anything away from Stockton, dude was a great point guard. My only question about him is what would his career have looked like without Karl Malone? Interesting to think about.
@rizzmatic392
@rizzmatic392 3 года назад
@@jasonforester7292 Karl Malone on the all time points scoring list pretty much cause of Stockton
@aliasgerally3201
@aliasgerally3201 3 года назад
Hahahahaha ok u tripping cp3 better than John
@mohammedmustafa2012
@mohammedmustafa2012 3 года назад
@@rizzmatic392 no Karl malone is a great scorer with or without stockton, Stockton is the all-time assist leader because of malone
@alexperaza266
@alexperaza266 3 года назад
That’s a good list now do ‘Top 5 reasons you was at them colleges boy’ 🧐
@picassojulien899
@picassojulien899 3 года назад
Honorable mention the glove and Steve nash
@Helloim_anthony
@Helloim_anthony 3 года назад
I wish i was old enough to watch the big O. He was my pops favorite player
@mirzahodzic4399
@mirzahodzic4399 3 года назад
And number 1 in assist didn't make a cut: John Stockton?
@deeprhymes
@deeprhymes 3 года назад
And steals
@arminvanbuuren883
@arminvanbuuren883 3 года назад
Stay right there and point to perfection Max!!! :D :D
@Shawn-qn6do
@Shawn-qn6do 3 года назад
CP3 is already a Legend no ring or not just so PURE
@ArianTyson
@ArianTyson 3 года назад
Those are the correct 5 (if CP3 wins it all). BUT, I would flip 3 and 4. So my top 5 (if CP3 wins it all) are: 1. Magic Johnson 2. Stephen Curry 3. Isiah Thomas 4. Oscar Robertson 5. Chris Paul (Honorable Mentions to John Stockton and Jason Kidd as well)
@yuhbtw
@yuhbtw 3 года назад
But No GP 🤦🏿‍♂️
@spongebobroundpants2966
@spongebobroundpants2966 3 года назад
Magic and Steph are guaranteed top 2 point guards ever. If u say otherwise u don’t know basketball. Those 2 both had a huge impact on how basketball is played today 🔥🔥
@MadMaxTopShotta
@MadMaxTopShotta 3 года назад
Uhm Isaiah Thomas is right there wit both of them
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 3 года назад
They almost need a category for point guards now. Old School and New Age. Steph Dame and Kyrie are in their own category.
@gtwithgabe9196
@gtwithgabe9196 3 года назад
Stockton made steve nash and cp3 who they are.
@deandramarshall7072
@deandramarshall7072 3 года назад
The pistol got mentioned, I am happy.
@kevinfuller7737
@kevinfuller7737 3 года назад
The Answer!!!!!
@IIchimaruGin
@IIchimaruGin 3 года назад
wdym MJ told you that he has Isiah Thomas as number 2 PG a long time ago and u never forgot? He literally said that on Last Dance show. saying he told that to you a long time ago is just cap ahah
@jasontheworldisyours
@jasontheworldisyours 3 года назад
This list is actually perfect. No disagreements from me 👍🏿💯
@brettt141
@brettt141 3 года назад
Stockton. Assist leader and steal leader all time but ok
@stansb37
@stansb37 3 года назад
Nah. Steve nas and j kidd above cp3. Both have mvp seasons unlike cp3
@consciousm1nd
@consciousm1nd 3 года назад
D rose at least got a MVP. And despite his injuries has had a comparable career to CP3. Idk might have to give even D rose the edge. What has CP3 really even done? Sure gold medals and all that are cool but I mean come on…
@billpap.9669
@billpap.9669 3 года назад
@@stansb37 Nash blossomed under D'antoni's system and Kidd made the Finals when the 1st seed in the East had the same record as the 5th/6th seed in the West.
@samribz3320
@samribz3320 3 года назад
@@consciousm1nd You think D Rose is top 5?
@bruiserbruiser7852
@bruiserbruiser7852 3 года назад
What about Stockton, Jason Kidd, Iverson, Gary Payton?
@jackjames2817
@jackjames2817 3 года назад
Bruhh i rlly thought the thumbnail said IsAiah Thomas, man I miss him
@logans2135
@logans2135 3 года назад
He forgot to mention CP3’s defense (even though it has fell off recently with age)
@MariE-bz2eq
@MariE-bz2eq 3 года назад
Fr. Even when they try to get a mismatch against him with the PNR and in the block, he holds his own. You would think he'd be a liability against anyone when they have the ball in the post, but he is a pitbull and never lets the opposing player back him down
@Logical281
@Logical281 3 года назад
hasn't fallen off that much. Still pretty dang good
@logans2135
@logans2135 3 года назад
@dune goon don’t usually reply to casuals but I had to this time. CP3 is probably the most willing small defender in the league next to Kyle Lowry. Just cause his numbers aren’t amazing doesn’t mean he isn’t playing great defense.
@chrismark5099
@chrismark5099 3 года назад
No way sir. Stockton has been to the finals twice, CP3 hasn't made it that far once. Most assists in nba history.
@joeharris9578
@joeharris9578 3 года назад
“if cp3 wins a title”
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 3 года назад
It took Stockton years to get to the Finals and that was mainly down to poor late game execution. For CP3, it was always facing a better team, injuries, or his teammates not helping him enough.
@Calimlh
@Calimlh 3 года назад
Agree, also Stockton is the all time leader is assists and steals. Overall a way better PG than CP3. Better defender too
@Coffee2024.
@Coffee2024. 3 года назад
Give Paul Malone & same result
@GroovydawgJ
@GroovydawgJ 3 года назад
@@Calimlh better defender? LOLL incorrect. stockton was better in passing lane steals and pick pocket steals. but staying in front of their man? actually playing perimeter defense? CP3 way better
@giannisgoatantetokounmpo1514
@giannisgoatantetokounmpo1514 3 года назад
How does winning a ring individually make a player better than what they are projected to be in the hypothetical they don't win a ring? Can anyone explain this?
@edwardtimothy3581
@edwardtimothy3581 3 года назад
IT is underrated
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