Stick Welding with 7024 Welding Rods 

+Gerardo Ibarra im also taking welding classes where i'm goin to school and i love watchin this guys videos. :)

We call them "Old Smokeys" here in Northern Ireland.

+Michael Kosinski ...Lincoln used to print 'jet-rod' right on the cardboard boxes of7024...

I knew a guy who loved burning JET rods. He was making industrial fixtures though. I've never used them with my everlast myself. It might be fun to give some a try but I'm not sure what I'd do with a complete box.

That rod has my interest as well, but few people use it and few offerings exist for it, usually only in 50lb cans. I keep hoping Blue Demon will offer it at some point.

You learn something new every day! I'm gonna have to try and get a hold of some of these 7028s

Yeah! I think people used to say "drag rod" for this kind of thing, thick iron-powder coating. I asked about this at a local welding supply, they had a box that had been sitting on the shelf for decades, really looked like an antique. It was kind of funny, and inexpensive! It wasn't in the computer inventory system. Anyway, tried it just as you say, and it was easy and fun! You get a giant nice looking bead, the bead is bigger than you think it's going to be, it's like a magic trick. This was in an engineering lab, I let the students try this for their first electric welding experience if they were interested. It's good for beginners! It's a cheap thrill, nothing to break, and if you can't quite see what you're doing, you can feel the joint.

A drag rod to the core.

You NEED to drag this rod in order for the slag to be on top and your weld underneath. There will be a ton of slag. When welding longer welds of more than one rod I used to try to mold the two runs of slag together to see how long a piece I could make and peel off.

I always assumed that Jet was short for Jetweld, which is a Lincoln Electric trademark for their E-7024 and E-6027.

+Coltan Vollrath starting at 2:30 it gets hilarious

Set it for 0.25 speed starting at 1:08 and imagine him with a beer in his hand. HILARIOUS.

Drunk in charge of a 7024 full O angry Pixies, thats new. Most people just come home and Fry Chips lol

BNelson M can you weld

We received a pack of UTP aluminium rods. Either by accident or as a gift. We had just purchased a few 250kg drums of 1.2mm or 0.45 inconel 625 from voestalpine. Let's just say I did not have much success whilst messing about with those rods. From memory, 15 years ago, the pack stated around 60amps DCEN for 2.4mm rods with white fluc coating similar to silver solder rods.

Not always, depends on the rod.

In this case I would find the manufacturer's suggested procedure. But, generally with hardfacing rod you run it cold with a longer arc and don't worry about it being pretty. It's almost like an arc braze, you want to heat the base metal up just enough for the melted hardface to stick. It won't be real pretty but you aren't selling looks if you're hardfacing.

if u have to weld thicker stuff, ya stick welding would be better. nothing beats a good old 7018 pass. :)

AKweldshop 11018 lol

Eddie the Grouch If you don't have a stick rod welder and or want to stay using your wire feed welder you might consider trying some Lincoln NR-211. The innershield wire will dig deeper fuse better on super clean metal and fusion and penetration will be greatly improved on slightly rusty metal or hot rolled where the mill scale has not been removed. This will require knurled drive rolls and hooking the negative tap up to your drive rolls. You will also have more BB's and there will be slag to clean up. You will employ about 2 times the stick-out to let the flux inside the wire heat up and produce the shielding gas. Just the same as stick rod this will weld well outside in the wind, Drive roll pressure is also reduced on innershield wire so that the wire is not flattened making it feed poorly. You can even remove your gas cup for better visibility and joint access. That does expose the threads that the cup screws onto but an old worn out cup can be cut down to protect the threads or heat resistant tape will do a nice job. This wire will run well in all positions. It will not be as pretty as solid wire welds that is at no fault to the operator it is just a different process. I hope all this rambling helps you in some way. If you have any questions comment me back and I will be willing to answer to the best of my ability. This wire produces a lot of white smoke so if welding inside consider a fan to blow the smoke out of your breathing zone!

(years later) Hey! Another RU-vid hero! I have recently started watching your stuff with great enjoyment. I think everyone in the welding industry agrees that the grinder is your best friend in welding... everyone wants to weld dirty wet oxidized metal, it might be possible but it's never beneficial! I've never seen anyone do this, but I think if I had to use a tiny welder and really cared about the result I'd concentrate on grinding and preparation, and then get some preheat in there! Nobody wants to use preheat, but it's easy and fun! What else? Put the work lead ON the work! Now you have a CHANCE!

Fluxcore penetrates a lot better, that's why I only run it in my 140 mig.

Yes, 7014 gives less penetration unless you run it really hot which can cause warping.

Hi, I've a DC Inverter, do you mean I swap the leads to get the AC.. ? M many thanks in advance Franco.

@@julioseviltwin2304 means you give de "+" to the piece and "negative" to de rod

@@francocelesia3975 Thanking you, 👍🏻gotcha! Do the amps need adjusting once I swap to AC?

extreme gamer what the heck?

Vacuum sealing them with some type of moisture removal should do the trick.

Marti woodchip howdy Marti, I know this is a very late reply to your question but I personally do not own a rod oven and I store my 7018's on a shelf out in the shop. You do not need a rod oven. The little amount of moisture on that shelf does not hurt a thing. If you do not feel comfortable with using them off the shelf that way, you can always "bake" them in the oven before using them to recondition the flux coating. Hope this helps, cheers brother!

Marti woodchip if your not doing code work no oven is fine, keep em dry and they'll be fine, run open air 7018 all the time and no problems..old ones that have been in shop forever still work well

jeremy doblinger I've done plenty of code work with 7018 (erections & tanking) never used a rod oven in the field. Last time was in school.

Concavity of the weld: it should lay flat to slightly concave on the metal, not a fat bead on top of it. The point is for it to be digging into the metal as it's supposed to fuse into it as to be indistinguishable from it. Also read how the puddle digs into the metal as you're welding--look at how the liquid of the puddle eats down into the base metal instead of globbing on top of it. Look at how you see defined edges in this video.

Thank you very much Bill. That makes a lot of sense and I will do exactly that. Once again thank you very much I very much appreciate the answer and help.

What amp would you drag at?

Dual shield flux core is often compared to 7018

Yep, dual shield w/ co2 is generally considered the standard for that.

My rod has no info on the box. educate properly for best results.

Quite right. That rod can burn your hand pretty easily; even a 3/32 runs hot.

busca 7010 que andan bien. Bien secos y calientes mejor...

It's actually pretty smooth but I wouldn't do it on thin stuff.

+OttoDeCalumnias The USA is a free country. So mandate this!

+Paul Frederick You are right! Free to self-destruct, free to loose all competitivity, free to stick the head in the sand and keep claiming: "We are the greatest Nation in the World". You can't mandate stuff like that. Either people get it or they don't. Wish you good luck with your current GOP presidential candidate, he will make America great again (Opps - was it not the greatest Nation to begin with???). RIP, USA!

OttoDeCalumnias We're still great compared to every other nation on Earth. But compared to times past, we're not quite that great anymore. We're competing against ourselves here. The rest of the world is dragging us down.