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Stihl and Echo Chainsaw Review- Which is Better? 

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Stihl or Echo Chainsaw- which is right for you? This chainsaw review has us comparing two popular models in a head to head comparison.
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@sabrinamulligan6235
@sabrinamulligan6235 Год назад
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ru-vid.comUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
@metalrooves3651
@metalrooves3651 4 месяца назад
is it a 4 stroke? havent heard of one since the 50s!
@morgan4xl
@morgan4xl 3 года назад
I opened an Echo chainsaw repair business four years ago and I am still waiting for my first customer. My best friend opened a Stihl repair shop around the same time and has now moved to the Bahama's into a house on the ocean with my wife that left me for a wealthier man.
@paulspomer16
@paulspomer16 3 года назад
Says a lot.
@Zachpoteet380
@Zachpoteet380 3 года назад
Stihl is the worst
@hamedizzy5137
@hamedizzy5137 2 года назад
LOOOOOOL such a liqr
@waylonlegend4603
@waylonlegend4603 2 года назад
More people own Stihl and abuse them.
@rhec4208
@rhec4208 Год назад
@@Zachpoteet380 Yeah OK bud
@jamesward5721
@jamesward5721 2 года назад
I used Stihl for years - in a big storm, I bought an Echo as a "Back-up" saw - it was, tbh, cheap. I now use that cheap Echo as my go-to daily saw & it refuses to die or give grief. I am- unashamedly - an Echo fanboy these days.
@ClaytonWillisMusic
@ClaytonWillisMusic Год назад
I was under the impression they are similarly priced?
@melonboi186
@melonboi186 8 месяцев назад
@@ClaytonWillisMusicno Stihl is overpriced
@MotoLife541
@MotoLife541 2 месяца назад
The echo is closer to a pro saw and the stihl is a plastic homeowner saw. The echo actually has mag cases and removable cylinder with adjustable oiler and decomp valve. Echo is a better value for the money while the stihls make more power.
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 Год назад
I ran all Stihl for years, saws, blowers, & weed eaters until I picked up an Echo, I now have nothing but Echo.
@flashcracker1
@flashcracker1 6 лет назад
I have 35 years experience using chainsaws and currently have en echo CS 3700 and a Stihl MS 250. Whilst the Stihl is a very good saw, the Echo in every way is a superior machine and I have not found a brand to beat it. Japanese quality and reliability is still in my view the best
@melonboi186
@melonboi186 Год назад
I love echo, echo is my first choice of equipment, I like stihl too, but the stihl chainsaws are a bear to start, constantly flooding, breaking your arm by how hard they are to pull, and the fact that they are extremely overpriced.
@seanflood6933
@seanflood6933 4 года назад
I have the Echo timber wolf for a couple years now, badass saw..plenty of power..very happy with it..
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 2 года назад
Nobody with any brains would use a Stihl MS290 before a Echo CS590. The Echo is better at everything and cost less . Some are uniformed and are wearing Stihl shorts
@jalhay6314
@jalhay6314 7 лет назад
Well fellows after some nearly 40 years using chainsaws I find comparisons are sort of like Ford/Chevy in that many saws cut well and feel well in different hands and folks have personal preferences. Most saws hold up more in the hands of those who use them properly, the way they personally cut things. Both here are good saws in the end.
@pinkpuffin187
@pinkpuffin187 7 лет назад
finally someone with some sense.
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 7 лет назад
I agree.
@djangoapple8230
@djangoapple8230 5 лет назад
Ford and Chevy? Yeah okay, but in walks Toyota.
@UhBuddy1976
@UhBuddy1976 5 лет назад
@@djangoapple8230 Toyota rules! 😎
@UhBuddy1976
@UhBuddy1976 5 лет назад
@Bert Novilla I have an Echo and there's nothing "Clunky" as you say about them. Read user reviews. The echo always gets better reviews overall than Stihl. I would have purchased a Stihl but I done my research. Don't get me wrong. Stihl is a good saw. It's one of the higher-rated ones and so is Husqvarna. However, a family member of mine has a newer Stihl and he was over recently helping us cut some trees. He had to pull his starter rope like 20-30 times to get it started after he refilled after it ran out of gas. Those people who have problems with their Stihl's claim that they are hard to start.
@scottfoster2487
@scottfoster2487 8 лет назад
Unfair test ,First off Echo in not broke in,Stihl is well worn,second Different bars and chains you should be using the same chain and bar size.
@deepthinker804
@deepthinker804 5 лет назад
Those were my thoughts too.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
And putting a professional saw against a farm saw is a brilliant pile of crap also
@burtonkephart6239
@burtonkephart6239 4 года назад
Hotdog Nonesky so true !! Not an equal comparison at ALL!! Just silly!! Echos 590 is echos very best 60cc 20” saw, but not so with stihl. Try putting this echo 590 against the stihl ms261 then you have equal fight n comparison !!!
@twal5299
@twal5299 4 года назад
They are both 400$$ saws. That's as equal as you can get.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
@@twal5299 Not even close. If you want to compare professional saws, compare professional saws. The farm saw will definitely Outlast the pro echo because it is designed to be a lower rpm saw that is simply a workhorse. It is a dumbed down saw that is built for longevity. The 261 is a smaller saw, but it is a pro saw. It will destroy both the 290 and the echo.
@semco72057
@semco72057 7 лет назад
I have a Stihl MS-250 chainsaw and it have not lived up to my expectation since it is hard to start, and I can't get anything done with it. Before I purchased the Stihl, I had a Poulan which I purchased in 2000, and it works great still, but I only use it around home. It sounds like the Echo chainsaw would be much better if I could find one in my area.
@mikem785
@mikem785 3 года назад
I had the same Stihl…it wore me out. Getting a similar model from Echo.
@olblu8746
@olblu8746 2 года назад
I've owned an Echo CS 346 for over 12 years, cleared and cut down lots of trees, too many to count. The Echo still works almost perfect, l'm very impressed cause l bought this saw already well used at a pawn shop for $149 .
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 7 лет назад
I bought the Echo because I couldn't justify 200 dollars more for a comparable Stihl. That price delta will buy a lot of consumables. I went with arboristsite reviews because that is probably the canonical pro and prosumer arborist website. The Echo is well made, and you can get the 600 if you want the pro version differences or just replace the bar with an upgrade (if necessary for your use case) when you wear out the original. No matter what saw you buy, there's always a better, more expensive saw available. The Echo is IMO great bang for the buck.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 7 лет назад
Its amazing how many people cant figure out that lower level Stihls saws are heavy, gutless and low quality and cost too much for what they are.
@tonytruelove5371
@tonytruelove5371 5 лет назад
I have a old 660. I cut timber with it a couple years it held together ok. I will stick to Huskies better saw hands down
@Jason607
@Jason607 4 года назад
Right. Stihl is a pro equipment and they do make homeowner series and then mid grade but those are just for product share. If you are going to do a pro series line use the saws they specialize.
@MrMaverixk
@MrMaverixk 4 года назад
@@Jason607 I'll just stick to jonsered
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
@@MrMaverixk Johnsered is just cheap Husqvarna.
@MrMaverixk
@MrMaverixk 4 года назад
@@hotdognonesky3766 It Still will last the same time as a husqvarna.
@alixmallard1202
@alixmallard1202 6 лет назад
I have owned two Stihls, a pro 036 and 310. Both were good saws, but I recently sold both and bought a Echo 590 and smaller 400. The 400 I bought 1st looking for a lighter saw for trim work, and wow, what a great lightweight saw that cuts surprising fast through anything, and is so balanced, does not wear you out. I was so impressed, I bought the 590. The 590 simply smokes the Stihls............it has surprising power, not for the in-experienced. Again, Stihl makes great saws, but as far as performance goes, Echo out cuts them. Time will tell if the last as long, but for now I am totally satisfied.
@fedupamerican5656
@fedupamerican5656 5 лет назад
Land Baron I have a 400 great saw
@dereksteele2284
@dereksteele2284 2 года назад
Echo will not out cut a stihl. echo saws are weak
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 Год назад
@@dereksteele2284 you didn't watch the video😂
@dereksteele2284
@dereksteele2284 Год назад
@@melissasmess2773 I run saws everyday, I think I know. People like u are clueless
@YankeeWoodcraft
@YankeeWoodcraft 3 года назад
I'm an ECHO owner, but have no horse in this race. Having said that, the fanboyism is strong when the same guys who brag about how bombproof and durable old abused Stihls are the same ones who say, "No fair! The Stihl is older!" 😂 Pick a struggle! You can't both brag about their superiority and make excuses as to why it just got outgunned by the ECHO. Anybody in their right mind knows that Stihl, Husqvarana & ECHO all make great saws and that they perform within 10% of each other. One cuts faster, one starts easier, one takes neglect better and they're all priced in the same range (Timber Wolf, Farm Boss & Rancher). They aren't your typical homeowner saw and they're not what the pros use day in and day out. They're know as "Prosumer" grade saws for non-professionals who need more than just your typical $100 14" plug in big box store chainsaw that's nothing more than a pruner on steroids. I'd take any of either 3, but there's no denying that the ECHO is right up there with the other two big boys and being made in Japan is a BIG PLUS when it comes to reliability and durability. They've been around for almost 1/2 a century. Deal with it. So keep your powder dry and don't get emotional over chainsaws. When you start sponsoring comparison videos by providing equipment to the testers, then you can gripe. Personally, I would've love to have seen identical bar lengths & identical chains on both so that you're getting a real test where the cutting touches the wood. But there's no getting around it...ECHOs run like bobcats on meth. It just is what it is. Test after test proves it. I notice that no one is making excuses as to why the ECHO went through those logs like Child Support goes through a tax return so spare us your indignation. 😂
@zone4garlicfarm
@zone4garlicfarm 8 лет назад
Echo saws have been gaining favor with the loggers around here for a few years. Their trimmers and top handle climber's saws have been popular for a long time and proven reliable. When the saw shops started carrying Echo's bigger saws people started trying them and liking them. There are three Echo dealers near me. Two of them also sell Husqvarna and the other sells Stihl. All three say Echo is their most reliable brand.
@505fastlife6
@505fastlife6 2 года назад
No surprise the Japanese know how to build an engine.
@mikepaul2485
@mikepaul2485 8 лет назад
I have an echo cs600p been running it for 4 years now and has never let me down. I use it on the farm all the time and cut about two or more tri axle loads of wood a year. An echo will hold up just as long as a stihl in my opinion.
@backwoodsslayer2006
@backwoodsslayer2006 4 года назад
Both chains are throwing dust. Should be throwing chips if they were sharp
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO 8 лет назад
Problem is, you are still comparing an old saw to a new saw.
@MemphisMojo15s
@MemphisMojo15s 8 лет назад
it was totally rebuilt. didn't you listen to what he said? explain what's wrong...
@buckslaymaster4325
@buckslaymaster4325 7 лет назад
The Echo was brand new and not broke in yet either, I've read several statements from owners that they really pick up after a couple of tanks of gas are run through them.
@johncilyo3642
@johncilyo3642 6 лет назад
Stanley, first time I ever commented on your videos which I truly find both informative and entertaining. 5 years ago, I had to make the decision between Stihl and Echo. I went with Echo due to simplicity and mist of all - balance. The Farmboss is way to heavy on the motor end fo my liking. Today I had to use the Echo again. Even though it was left with a tank full of stabilized fuel, it started right up and performed flawlessly ( I had to remove the spark plug to relieve the compression and turn it over a couple of times). Stihl may be the name, but times are changing as they say. Stay safe...
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 6 лет назад
Thanks so much for the comments John, I appreciate you watching. Stay safe also!
@xcvsdxvsx
@xcvsdxvsx 5 лет назад
Stihl has started making products in China. So yea... press F to pay respects I guess...
@zaineridling
@zaineridling 7 лет назад
An embarrassingly biased comparison stacked against the Stihl, and I love Echo saws. Delete this garbage.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 7 лет назад
Nothing biased at all, that's the way they cut. I own both and the Stihl just sits on the shelf.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 7 лет назад
Nope- its just the way it came out- I have ran Stihl for years and own a ton of their equipment. If anything should be biased it should have been me for the Stihl since I have a ton of their equipment.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 7 лет назад
Stihl management should be the ones embarrassed for making a saw like the MS 290, it's heavy, under powered and built cheap and they over rate the HP to make sales
@blafishing7581
@blafishing7581 7 лет назад
Can't match an Echo...fo sho !!
@SuperPlastered
@SuperPlastered 7 лет назад
I've been running a Stihl farmboss for a long time cutting Oak trees here in FL. Echo is simply better. While I love the Stihl, this particular Echo works better. Nothing biased at all.
@dqmc07
@dqmc07 6 лет назад
I love Echo all around and less espensive, more durable too
@justinreader3892
@justinreader3892 8 лет назад
i cut timber professionally, an i have for many years. i understand these saws are a smaller caliber than i use on a daily basis. but i have smaller saws than those you are showcasing that cut much faster than that...i have to say this video makes me absolutely nauseous.... one saw is brandnew.. the other is obviously well warn.. an they have different size bars? not to mention neither chain is sharp. also echo chain is extremely an dangerously lose... come on man i love your videos but after this ive lost alot of respect.
@chrisgrayston1982
@chrisgrayston1982 6 лет назад
You've missed an important point also... The saws are different cc to start with!
@marcmoberg
@marcmoberg 6 лет назад
But the Timberwolf is cheaper.
@inigorem
@inigorem 5 лет назад
well you missed the bit in the beginning where he says he got new chain, bar, tuneup in other words everything was done to make the saw as new as possible... listen and you will learn :)
@henrydavis970
@henrydavis970 5 лет назад
You must be Stihl lovers..
@djangoapple8230
@djangoapple8230 5 лет назад
@@henrydavis970 getting away from stihl is like going through a nasty divorce. You don't wanna let go, but you don't wanna keep getting mistreated by an obviously different woman than the one you first met and fell in love with. Stihl ain't the equipment I first met.
@dimik3855
@dimik3855 7 лет назад
It's obvious this vid is a plug for Echo, which are darn good saws, but Stihl can match or better just about anything on the market. As far as this comparison goes, the horsepower, the type of gas mix, how sharp the blades are and the overall condition of the chainsaws can make a huge difference, so this demonstration is basically a joke. It pisses off all the Stihl folks and gives all the Echo dudes a hard on. Respect the powerful beast that a chainsaw is and give it lots of TLC in the maintenance department and it will serve you well, and stay away from the crappy consumer models, especially ones with batteries. :)
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 7 лет назад
A MS290 is a crappy consumer model, heavy and under powered
@randylagasse7767
@randylagasse7767 6 лет назад
Dimi K I
@jamessammann9183
@jamessammann9183 5 лет назад
Stihl suck..echo all day long
@derekwellwood2089
@derekwellwood2089 7 лет назад
Painful to watch amateurs. You and your crew. What pro buys a farm boss?
@mjohnsongreen
@mjohnsongreen 4 года назад
Really a new chain? Judging by the size of the saw dust chunks, it’s obviously not a “new” chain. Maybe a freshly sharpened chain but without properly set rakers. Also a new 59.8 ccsaw, vs an older smaller 55cc saw. . Yeah lots of variables there. This test is invalid. Let’s see a echo Timberwolf against an ms362. Or at least an ms 311 that is a 59cc as well.
@TheIrongutz
@TheIrongutz 7 лет назад
Beware, the choke knob sticks out from the body and could get snagged and broken. The Stihl is hidden for this reason.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 7 лет назад
Never had that problem-thanks for the heads up.
@matclue4
@matclue4 7 лет назад
Almost had this happen on a poulan pro chainsaw. The choke that sticks out like that got caught on something and i left it like that without noticing. Now the choke lever is bent down but still works, just not as easy to pull out anymore
@mikecowan5786
@mikecowan5786 7 лет назад
matclue4 lol poulan is home depot garbage. And as for yhe chokes Dolmar doesn't have one for a reason. They auto prime and choke 1 pull they always start up even when cold.
@glennlurman3514
@glennlurman3514 7 лет назад
whats worse an echo that wont start or a stihl that wont stop.
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 6 лет назад
Glenn Lurman an echo that won't start lol. A stihl that won't stop all you have to do is choke it out.
@digger0429
@digger0429 2 года назад
3 echo saws on shelf electronic problems no parts makes me sick, sthil saw ms 290 never failed
@MercyMinister
@MercyMinister 6 лет назад
I have both an Echo and Stihl. I service them myself. I use them for how they were designed. If I need a bigger and more powerful saw, I will purchase another. For now, using them within their design parameters, they are both good tools.
@river_kearney
@river_kearney 11 месяцев назад
Used an ECHO for 4 years (for everything, my wood heat included) without a single breakdown or issue, NOTHING! It has performed flawlessly and with great power no matter what obstacle I put it against....wood, ice, shingles, extreme cold, doesn't matter. You can't stop an ECHO. They really are great machines.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 6 лет назад
With the opinions like below its no wonder Stihl manages to sell low powered, heavy , low quality saws like the one in this vid
@bradhouse1956
@bradhouse1956 3 года назад
Check your chain tension watching that echo have allot of under slop
@omnimous69
@omnimous69 8 лет назад
I've been very happy with the quality, Warranty and price of my echo blower. I will always consider an Echo product.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
+omnimous69 That is what started this whole thing. I bought 2 Echo blowers, 2 trimmers and other echo equipment and was really impressed. I tried to find something wrong with my blower- and I couldn't!
@bouldernelsonbigfoot
@bouldernelsonbigfoot 2 года назад
Good vid. Thx. Been running a Huski 390xp and a Poulan Pro 52cc 20" , Echo is next on the list.
@MONEYBAGS603
@MONEYBAGS603 8 лет назад
i bought my a 490 and returned it for the 590 after i saw this video, the echo 590 is a badass saw. i sold my stihl170 to help pay for it. great video!
@mjohnsongreen
@mjohnsongreen 4 года назад
MONEYBAGS603, the Stihl 170 is the smallest saw Stihl makes. Of course a 59 cc saw will out perform it. That’s comparing apples to oranges.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
If you were using a 170, you don't know enough about saws to even speak here.
@ignorethefashion82
@ignorethefashion82 4 года назад
@@hotdognonesky3766 Nonsense. I use Echo 310's and Stihl 170's all the time, because they're great small saws and absolutely serve a purpose. Not all of us are basic tree cutters. Some natural resources professionals (myself included) are required to hike 10-15 miles through the backcountry in order to reach a site, and can't be carrying 50cc saws, gas, oil, PPE, etc. that distance while fighting through multiflora thickets. Trust me, I know plenty of people who use the 170 as their primary saw because it's light and very powerful for it's size, and these people likely have thousands of hours more experience than you do.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
@@ignorethefashion82 More experience than me? Lol I've been doing forestry and running arboriculture activities for over 30 years. If you're using a 170, you're an idiot. The 170 is heavier and about half the HP of the 201 tc-m. A professional would know this. Any questions?
@burtonkephart6239
@burtonkephart6239 4 года назад
Hotdog Nonesky 😂😂 True dat! I know a little something because I’ve sawed many felled oak trees for a whole summer helping my dad out on his property after storms using his cs 590 echo timber wolf seen in video! And yes they are very good saws but you are right this is not a equal comparison at all! They should have compared this echo 590 to a stihl ms 261 !!! See what happens then🎯💯
@franconero181
@franconero181 5 лет назад
Tried to make the comparison as FAIR as possible? Really? THE BAR ON THE STIHL IS **WAY SHORTER**! Holy crap, is Echo paying you guys to do this disservice? Also, the Echo saw appears new, while the Stihl is much older. The supposed tuneup was not as good as could have been. The sound and bogging down attests to this fact. Echo makes a good saw. I own one myself, but this is just bad propaganda. Shame on you.
@chalatenangoesa3047
@chalatenangoesa3047 7 лет назад
i use to work with echo 400, after many reviews of 590 lord of wolves i just bougth it and WOW, definetely i prefer echo over the shitty stilh. Echo #1. is my everyday tool on my tree removal company.
@rogerharvey1698
@rogerharvey1698 Год назад
I’ve been a professional urban forester for decades, climbing for the better part of that tenure. I always swore by Stihl, but when the time came to get a new top handle saw I chose an Echo cs355t. That was almost four years ago and in that time I’ve had absolutely no issues with it, not even a replacement recoil cord....as a matter of fact I’ve never even removed that cover. As far as I’m concerned that 355t is twice the saw as Stihl’s 201t, and for half the price. Like as not I’ll never buy another Stihl. And now I’m gonna pick up a 24” Echo cs590, as a “bucking” saw for when the diameter of the wood I’m climbing challenges the capabilities of my cs355t.
@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial
@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial 4 года назад
I think my ryobi cheap saw cuts almost as good as the stihl
@jerrymorelos6397
@jerrymorelos6397 2 года назад
The problem with stihl is you have to purchase two of them.
@charlesburns6601
@charlesburns6601 4 года назад
I have 6 stihl chainsaw and love them the best money can buy
@oross99
@oross99 4 года назад
That's what I was thinking too before replacing my Sthils for Echos.
@WalterWhiteDeuce
@WalterWhiteDeuce 4 года назад
Or you can just go buy a Husqvarna problem solved
@Broddi169
@Broddi169 7 лет назад
Both saws are their homeowner farm saws. The prices are about the same. The stihl is a plastic clamshell. The echo is a magnesium case. Echo is a better built saw and will make more power and outlast the 290. The timber wolf will spank the rancher 455 and 460 also. Those are also plastic clamshell motors. May want to mention to guy in video he holds the saw totally wrong. Right hand is to be on rear of the handle. This guy looked awkward and unsafe.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
@jamesc6137
@jamesc6137 6 лет назад
hard to believe y'all would leave out the fact that in every echo product made gets a commercial grade forged piston 300hour engine where as a stihl farm boss is a home owner grade engine that's not a forged piston 300 hour engine.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 6 лет назад
Most of the Echo haters on here barley know how to start a saw, no way they know how much better the Echo built.
@lgokie891
@lgokie891 8 лет назад
In the past 5 years I have purchased Stihl, Husky and Echo. Future buys will only be Echo.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 8 лет назад
+lg okie Me too.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
Same here
@roccotoothycombs
@roccotoothycombs 7 лет назад
We work on smal engines. We recommend echo hands down. Stihl might make good commercial saw but their homeowner saws are junk
@robertdavis6708
@robertdavis6708 3 года назад
One only get's the top quality with Stihl saws when buying their larger saws. Made in Germany quality. I own 5 Stihls, 3 Echo's and love everyone of them. Like one Commenter said, it's like comparing Chevy's and Fords. But my favorite "go to saw" would have to be the Echo CS-5000. Mabey a little on the Hot Saw Circuit but a Powerhouse in your presence. Cut with other Stihl lovers and they spent more time watching the Echo 5000 cut than their Stihl Farm Boss's. Nothing internal but minor carb, exhaust, timing mods. Get ya Sum!
@ozcampnhuntdan7858
@ozcampnhuntdan7858 7 лет назад
I generally love the echo and shindaiwa products, I really think they are underrated. Never had any major problems with any of their petrol products, they just perform.
@g.d.7629
@g.d.7629 4 года назад
Timberwolf is a better saw than 290 Stihl. When I hear the word Stihl I don't get goosebumps. I run other BETTER BRANDS
@kennycybertron1
@kennycybertron1 6 лет назад
LOVE MY ECHO chainsaw and bp blower
@gilberthernandez4652
@gilberthernandez4652 7 лет назад
If you're worried about what the good ol boys will think of you down at the co-op, buy the Stihl. If you live in the 21st century and aren't afraid of what the dinosaurs will say about you, buy the Echo. Quality product without the b.s. price and service options.
@jasonh9886
@jasonh9886 6 лет назад
This was a great comparison of an old, homeowner grade 56cc saw and a new pro grade 60cc saw. If you actually wanted it to be apples to apples you would have had a new ms362 to go against that echo.
@Rob-tl9md
@Rob-tl9md 2 года назад
lol. yea for 300 more
@olblu8746
@olblu8746 2 года назад
@@Rob-tl9md yeah , that's too much moolah.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 3 года назад
Echo 501 P, vs Husqvarna 550xp - RU-vid
@jasonslaughter2811
@jasonslaughter2811 5 лет назад
All im says is ive seen a Kia car out preform a Nissan....🤔new generation fellas🤷🏾‍♂️ we just a squirrel tryna get a nut..
@Erated78
@Erated78 3 года назад
Great video guys. Too bad there are so many uptight dudes leaving negative comments LOL ... I thought you did the best you could with the test. Don't let all those negative whining comments bring ya' down. Cheers
@adammiller475
@adammiller475 5 лет назад
I have been a echo technician for 10 years and all we do is get Stihl back never echo
@RIDDYxMUSICH
@RIDDYxMUSICH 3 года назад
Best comment in the video. And yes I’ve heard the same.
@martiwoodchip4518
@martiwoodchip4518 7 лет назад
Also all farm boss and MS models are junk!, the only good stihls are models that start with O as in 026. 056. 064, 036 etc etc all others are garbage.
@erike7297
@erike7297 4 года назад
I've got an echo 400 and a Stihl 391. They are technically homeowner saws but I'm a landscaper. I've been running them pretty hard lately and very happy with how both are performing.
@chriswhite8135
@chriswhite8135 5 лет назад
Stihl is gutless! Hate them! Had to use them! Never again! BIL cuts wood all the time and has gone through 3 stihl to one Husquvarna. No comparison! Get what you pay for.
@Mo-OhioTreeRemoval
@Mo-OhioTreeRemoval 8 лет назад
Oh wow.... Speechless. Except! Send me that saw and I'll run a review worth while!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
+Mow's Lawn & Iron Haha- I need it!
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
An honest comparison would be great
@TheRussellStover
@TheRussellStover 9 месяцев назад
Even 7 years later. I continue to hear good things about Echo. Lots of people still swear by Stihl and probably will. I plan on getting an Echo though.
@timkirkpatrick9155
@timkirkpatrick9155 8 лет назад
Your shop was lazy and did not sharpen the stihl. Also the 16in bar does not mean it will run more efficiently. Efficiency is more tied to chain and bar size and tooth arrangement. do the same trial with a 18in bar with 3/8 chain, skip tooth and see what happens.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
Didn't sharpen it? No they didn't because it was brand new out of the box blade.
@Mayoyaquiwarrior
@Mayoyaquiwarrior 2 года назад
I'm going with echo my landlord bought a brand new stihl payed around 700 and man that thing from beginning was issues starting and took it back for repair meanwhile the older stihl still starts up on couple pulls so I'm not a fan of the new stihls I'm going with echo
@onewordhereonewordthere6975
@onewordhereonewordthere6975 4 года назад
I've been buying echoes used for years . I see one laying there and I say yeah what you going to do with that saw ? And they tell me they're going to sell it for xxx. And I always say yeah but it's not a Stihl . I can only give you this much . It's getting harder y'all cut it out no more reviews thank you
@tenogarcia582
@tenogarcia582 3 года назад
I own a tree service company and my to go big saws is husky that said I also own echo and echo will last you for ever now I just bought the new echo top handle and the 7310 and had a Timberwolf for the past 3 years and going strong.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 8 лет назад
Go with the Echo, you can actually understand their manuals. Stihl's are very hard to understand. And their cheaper saws are hard to start.
@charleyhill9867
@charleyhill9867 5 лет назад
Echoes cheaper saws act no different.
@Brian-Outdoors
@Brian-Outdoors 5 лет назад
Not true. All Echos, even the cheap ones, start easy unless there is something wrong with them.
@Americancitizen1
@Americancitizen1 4 года назад
I have a 7 year old entry level Stihl MS 170 and it ALWAYS starts right up 1-2 pulls. My MS 261 CM is the same way. No problem with the manual either. I still respect that Echo 590. Good saw.
@Ken2234
@Ken2234 2 года назад
590 in action, this saw handles most of what your going to run into. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lwBrNl9VNLM.html
@slpeteyAZ
@slpeteyAZ 7 лет назад
Not a fair comparison but I will say Echo has caught up to Stihl and is now starting to pass them up. The diehard Stihl guys refuse to believe it but it’s true.
@NrlyWrx
@NrlyWrx 5 лет назад
Exactly even at the disadvantage of a bigger bar the echo smoked the stihl. Starting to pass? You mean blew by them. Echo is more dependable too
@NrlyWrx
@NrlyWrx 5 лет назад
Paul Greening EXACTLY......WIN / WIN
@turtleneckrampage1352
@turtleneckrampage1352 5 лет назад
The chains is obviously less sharp on the stihl. Not a legit comparison.
@NrlyWrx
@NrlyWrx 5 лет назад
Turtleneck Rampage bs...the Stihl has a smaller bar and should of ran faster and it/Stijl STILL got smoked
@turtleneckrampage1352
@turtleneckrampage1352 5 лет назад
Should I buy an echo?
@Rodney883
@Rodney883 4 года назад
I bought a Stihl and it was very underpowered and cut limbs and small trees but not good for much else I then bought a echo both 40cc 18 inch saws the echo is like the stihl with twin turbos and nitrous will never buy another stihl echo or husquavarna for me
@flyrc88
@flyrc88 5 лет назад
Echo is owned by Shindaiwa the best two-stroke products on the market. Test their backpack blowers....freakin awesome machines.
@jn7420
@jn7420 8 месяцев назад
The neat thing about all my Echo machines is that start and will not stall at low RPM. They putt, but will not quit.. :)
@mattseymour8637
@mattseymour8637 7 лет назад
Stihl for me, quality and easy starting! Also power and tork!
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 7 лет назад
You only get quality and power with the Stihl pro saws not the MS290 in this vid. Time to figure out the difference in Stihl cheap saws and their pro saws. Stihls saws start way harder than Echo saws, I have both
@bowtie4hd
@bowtie4hd 7 лет назад
You have no idea what you are talking about! Compare a pro saw to a non pro saw in any lineup and the others will always feel "cheap".
@militarychevy711
@militarychevy711 7 лет назад
+Oliverm5sc A matter of Opinion. I have a 290 and 590, would take my 290 over the 590 any day. I've had that 290 for 13 years.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
@@oliverm5sc The 290 in this video is a farm saw. The echo is a pro saw. If a Stihl starts hard, it's the fault of the owner or operator. My saws start up powerfully and consistently.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 4 года назад
I like echo but do a better comparison the 590 vs the 360. The echo 620p will cut faster than the new 362
@duffield55aj
@duffield55aj 6 лет назад
One thought about the Echo having a longer bar, this gives more chain teeth to clear the wood cuttings which means there is less chance of clogging. Would be interesting if the Stihl was fitting with the same length bar an chain. However looks a good saw.
@donf6625
@donf6625 3 года назад
I bought 2 of these 590s at home depot for 300.00 they were refurbished and on the half price table, should of bought the third one too.
@84guerciotti
@84guerciotti 6 лет назад
Have the Echo with an 18" bar, bought it when it was first released. Best saw I've owned. Power to spare without being a heavy brute. The Echo warranty is actually better than Stihl - not that it really matters as both are top quality machines.
@Christopher-et7bc
@Christopher-et7bc 2 года назад
Stihl sucks. Just used a brand new 450.00 dollar weedeater from them. It barely ran and it was hard as hell to start
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 8 лет назад
Did I mention that I am a certified echo technician? I'm also a highly qualified tree care professional that uses professional grade saws every day. I like where echo is going, but I've done my own comparisons. Putting the echo version of a professional saw against a non-professional grade saw is bad enough, but then choosing the biggest turd a company has ever made, just makes you look bad.
@michealdulay529
@michealdulay529 8 лет назад
I've never heard of being echo certified
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 8 лет назад
Really? lol wow
@prestonfreeman8443
@prestonfreeman8443 5 месяцев назад
MS361 vs That echo should be the fair match. 60cc
@dcb805
@dcb805 6 лет назад
Bought a john deere 55 back in early 80's made by echo and used it today 07-18-2018 ran like brand new. Because of age parts are hard to find but saw still runs and cuts fantastic.Keep chain sharp and don't abuse bar.
@dereksteele2284
@dereksteele2284 2 года назад
The 290 is 56cc. The ms310 would be better to compare to the echo since it would be the same cc
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 8 лет назад
Stihls number 1 selling saw is the one in this vid the MS290 which is gutless, heavy, built cheap and has way over rated HP. Should tell you something about people wearing Stihl shorts.
@Largent13
@Largent13 7 лет назад
oliverm5sc the ms250 is the top selling saw not the 290
@williamhill406
@williamhill406 7 лет назад
devkam13 the 250 (45cc 3.0hp) is a homeowner saw that is more gutless than the 290(55cc 3.7hp) Stihl classifies it in the "farm and ranch" category. Don't waste your time on either if you are going to use a saw for any extended period. Get a pro saw 241, 261, 362 in the end you will have a saw that will last most homeowners / firewood burners a lifetime and if you were to sell,if properly maintained would retain the majority of it's original value....
@jefftuttle9530
@jefftuttle9530 2 года назад
I have stihl saws, but I saw that these echo saw was built by the Japanese and every thing I love is built by those guys down to the Nintendo.
@GoFastGator
@GoFastGator 8 лет назад
Not even close to a fair comparison. The Stihl would likely have cut faster with a longer bar. Anytime the nose of the bar is buried in the wood it works the saw much harder. Power should be close on these two saws. The 590 is a de-tuned and downgraded version of the 600P. Great saw for the money.
@michaelmagness1208
@michaelmagness1208 8 лет назад
also the way he ran the stihl made it take longer. if he would have made the initial top cut wider to slot the whole log,then dug the felling dogs in and rocked the saw through versus holding the saw he would have gotten through it faster and quicker. honestly that's a better job for a 271 farm boss anyway they are made to handle the work and high revs better than a 290
@fiddlinjazz
@fiddlinjazz 4 года назад
Totally agree, the short bar on the sthil has no time to clean out vs the echo is protruding thru the log a good 3 inches
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 4 года назад
@@michaelmagness1208 Also, they're comparing a pro saw to a farm saw. The farm saw is purposely dumbed down so it lasts longer and runs at a much lower rpm
@jonnorton9720
@jonnorton9720 4 года назад
You’d think if they took it in and had a new bar and chain on the stihl..they would have put the same length of bar as the echo...anyone can make any saw look better than the other if they want...they think everyone is stupid..
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 3 года назад
Pulling off the plastic limiter caps and tuning them a bit richer, they'll run neck and neck with a 550 or a stihl ms 261. Nobody needs an autotune carb. Two screws, too simple. He's talking about a 50 cc Echo. Someone I believe, not your bs billy bob
@codygroholski98
@codygroholski98 5 лет назад
Well new chain on farm boss would make it far i have farm boss half that time with a 20in bar but its a new model i run same test 28 seconds so next run a far test thanks....
@E80-t6e
@E80-t6e 4 года назад
Sthil is trash made in China and could never match the superior engines of Japan Echo is boss!
@cameronturner7475
@cameronturner7475 8 лет назад
I have a Echo cs500evl that I bought brand new in 1982. I use it every year cutting my annual firewood supply, usually 3 to 4 cords and for various projects. The only mechanical issue I had was the ignition coil about 20 years ago. So for very long term durability they can't be beat.
@aeridyne
@aeridyne 5 лет назад
I got my hands on an old CS500VL as well and I do love that saw. It's darn near as old as me around 35-39 yrs old and it still runs fantastic, probably with original seals too. I've got some old heavy but super reliable and powerful McCulloch Pro Mac 610s I love as well. Great old saws that cut really well. The 500vl is a 50cc and lighter than the 610s yet heavier than something like a 46cc 250 that might cut pretty equivalent. Probably a little heavy for power to weight these days but man is it a great saw and rugged. I'd take the 500 over a stock 290. I just finished rebuilding 2x 290s and I was less impressed than I'd hoped for even with slight muffler mods. Building the last one into a 390 to see how it performs compared to the old 500 and 610s. I wouldn't mind having one of those 590s to try out at all though.
@waynejohnson9855
@waynejohnson9855 4 года назад
my saw cuts every year the amount you have cut in 35 and i trade every 5 years and my saws are still running good.
@randy5766
@randy5766 5 лет назад
Hold on...these saws are not equal! Rip Off. The MS290 is old and has been out of production for years! I guess you'd match a used 2000 model truck against a 2019? Echo says in it's advertisements this CS-590 is a professional grade saw and you've matched it with an old farm and ranch series. Want a fair test? Match the Echo CS-590 against a new Stihl MS362, 59cc saw. Ridiculous! By the way, like your new Echo chaps...did Echo outfit you well with a lot of little extras?
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 5 лет назад
Your right the CS362 or 361 would be more fair. With both having the mufflers opened up some they will be real close in cutting speed. Keep in mind the Stihl costs almost twice as much, if fact the CS590 cost less the than a new MS291 or 310 so value wise the Echo wins.
@mattdee000
@mattdee000 5 лет назад
The stihl saw was years old, and the Echo was new. Compression ain't the same on an old saw. Not saying the echo still wouldn't have more power, just that the test was flawed.
@3YearsApart1613
@3YearsApart1613 4 года назад
Just bought the cs 400 today. That thing is a beast cut like a hot knife through butter
@Andyshine77
@Andyshine77 8 лет назад
The farmBoss is a homeowner type saw, plastic case and all. Let me be clear Stihl makes top of the line products!! However take into consideration the low and mid range models are often over priced for what they are. Sometimes you're paying more for the name and clever marketing, than the quality of the actual product. The same can be said for many Husqvarna saws as well. Echo on the other hand is trying to build the brand up, by producing quality at a more reasonable price. The issue Echo has is lack of supporting dealers. When it comes down to it, these saw are only similar in price. The cs-590 is based on the pro models cs-600, cs-620 and cs-620pw, all of which have mag cases. Mag cased saws are normally more durable more powerful and lighter than the plastic clam shell designs. Right now the Echo cs-590 is without a doubt the most saw you can buy for the money today.
@jerva245
@jerva245 8 лет назад
+bobe8888 This is the best and most accurate comment on here.I agree with every word!
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 8 лет назад
+bobe8888 Home Depot is about the best dealer you could want to be in with. Echo is in all Home Depots and in AZ about every single landscaper runs them. Within the past few years I probably see Echo 10 to 1 vs Stihl with landscapers and tree trimming companies. Used to be all Id see was Stihl but lately theres been a huge shift to Echo..at least with landscape companies here in AZ
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
Great info😄👍
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
+Jerry Counts yes. Good info😄
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
+mojo jojo I changed to echo and love it.
@JG54206
@JG54206 5 лет назад
I’m pretty much an echo guy. Only way stihl is worth it is the pro models but I’ve found that pretty much all of echos equipment is built to the same level of longevity as stihl pro saws. Echo doesn’t really have all the bells and whistles and they have fewer big chainsaws, stihl has a better selection in this size range but echo’s are great and if you have an older one it is most likely gonna last you til they don’t make parts for it anymore and you finally break something that you can’t replace.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад
Thank you for commenting Julian!
@bodhizafa7125
@bodhizafa7125 6 лет назад
I have a GT-200R Echo trimmer I bawt in 06 it's 100% unmalested used every yr from spring till fall I don't abuse it. It shows plenty of wear. the original spark plug is still in it. Air cleaner + fuel lines,primer bulb still original. I found an identicle 1 in the trash last fall fixed it with Loctite Super Glue just recently sold it for $50. If I had to buy a new trimmer I'd certainly buy Echo with out a doubt.
@Al-ox8ci
@Al-ox8ci 5 лет назад
Echo makes great trimmers (have 3) that are all poor at bucking logs, for which my Stihl saw is much better. My point is a good trimmer brand is not necessarily a good (or bad) saw brand. I have been considering an Echo saw as well but have decided on another Stihl based on my experience and recommendation of a friend who was a Stihl repair tech. This video comparison is worthless. I have no doubt both are great saws but the bar lengths need to be equal.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 8 лет назад
Of course you picked the farm boss 290. It's the worst saw stihl ever made. why not try a smaller saw? I'll put a little ms261 up against your echo.
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 8 лет назад
David The Stihl MS290 is Stihls number one selling saw, Does that tell you how many people have no idea what a good saw is. The CS590 will cut quite a bit faster than you little ms261 also when tuned right, if you don't believe that buy one any try it, other people have
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 8 лет назад
+oliverm5sc It may be the best seller for them. it is also a huge turd. it is a homeowner saw ,any way you look at it. the ms261 is smaller and kicks the crap out of it! cutting time being equal to the echo. You are still pitting a homeowner saw against a saw aimed at a professional market. I don't have a problem with the echo saws, but if you're going to post a clearly bias review, I'm going to call you out on it. While I have never seen what happens when a tree, or even a part of one, falls on an echo, I have seen it on both of the top brands. I've also seen what happens when they are accidentally unclipped and fell from a tree. They are very rugged and trustworthy. My point is, if you want to compare things, do it honestly.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 8 лет назад
+David Losievsky I didn't know that. 👍
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 8 лет назад
David, there are vids on here with the 590 600 and 620 Echo saws cutting right with Stihls 361 362 and Huskys best 560 562 60cc saws, does you ms261 cut right with those saws, not likely unless its ported.
@hotdognonesky3766
@hotdognonesky3766 8 лет назад
+oliverm5sc No it doesn't. You're fixating on that saw. the point is, you didn't compare apples to apples, oranges to oranges, as you stated.
@richardevans3253
@richardevans3253 7 лет назад
The chainsaw operator 4:20 , who's operating the Stihl should get some training. He's a danger to himself.
@Arman2Dito
@Arman2Dito 4 года назад
Can I ask what he is doing wrong?
@faithingod9554
@faithingod9554 4 года назад
Maybe use 2 hands 👐
@coltonswindell689
@coltonswindell689 4 года назад
Armando de la Torre same thing I’m wondering
@JimmyHagar
@JimmyHagar 7 лет назад
I'll tell you this much I've got an echo Timberwolf I've also got an 029, 039, ms271, ms310 and ms441 magnum. I put the Timberwolf up against the 441 Magnum both had 24 inch bars with new chains and the Timberwolf wood cut through almost twice the wood is that Magnum I just traded a load of wood and some cash for ms310 the exact same size as the Timberwolf just to compare there is no comparison the Timberwolf beat it both hands down I've only got one Stihl chainsaw they will compete with it and that's the old o39 it will run right behind it. The MS 271 and the o29 no comparison
@leodanryan966
@leodanryan966 8 лет назад
Well, I don't think you purposefully tried to skew the results, I just think it wasn't a fair comparison. I know that you have a lot more knowledge of chainsaws, and wood cutting. Maybe you should just try to get Stihl to send you a new saw for testing , and do a part 2. I'm looking forward to seeing it. Thanks, Leo
@oliverm5sc
@oliverm5sc 8 лет назад
Leo Brand new saws cut slower than ones that are broken in, if the Stihl saw was brand new it would have cut even slower, that fact is that the only Stihl saws that are good is their pro models like a MS261 or a ms 362 but they cost a LOT more than Echo saws which perform just as good.
@mikecowan5786
@mikecowan5786 7 лет назад
oliverm5sc stihls will last a life time tho. They are all metal echo is Japanese plastic. you're lucky if it last 2years.
@markw2266
@markw2266 5 лет назад
Well than someone should tell my 20 year old echo chainsaw it needs to break. I own Huskys, Stihls, Dolmars, and Echo's for some reason I always go for the echo. I think mostly because they are easier to start and have a real world power band. My buddy bought a Echo cs500p it's always the saw that gets picked up first.. Not opions just observations on my part. Every saw I have works well for what it was bought to do. If I could only have 1 saw it would probably be the timberwolf or the cs620p. The cs 8000 is OK but falls behind in performance. Hasn't stopped me from running 30-40 cords through mine. It always starts....which makes it cut a whole lot faster than one that doesn't.
@saltspringmaintenance5530
@saltspringmaintenance5530 8 лет назад
I can not say enough good things about this saw. I run it with a 24" bar and almost no bog down on full cuts. This is an awesome saw. Add in the value, no need to worry, this saw just cuts. Runs like a dragster to my Husky.
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