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Stock Block 302 Dyno….. yes stock block 5.0 Ford engine. Not a Coyote 

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Stock Block 302…. How much horsepower can be made? How fast can it go? Joey, currently holds the fastest nitrous pass that we know of, 5.11 at 133mph. Now he wants to try to get the boosted record! This is all new combination, making the first dyno pulls! Let’s see how it goes.
If you need dyno time in the Raleigh area, hit Josh Kinzey up at UnderGround garage.
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@sleeeper88
@sleeeper88 23 дня назад
12 years ago a put down 631 through a t5 on a mustang dyno. Car was a stock 302 88 foxbody with performer heads and a t trim Current foxbody has a ysi and dart 347 with afr 220 heads. Bob kurgan tuned it. Put down 900 through the aod we built. Car has ran 8.82 at 158 Full weight 88 gt with AC and all power options interior
@matthewvarnam4302
@matthewvarnam4302 4 дня назад
That's got to be some what true the numbers seem to add up to me.
@petrolhead8851
@petrolhead8851 26 дней назад
Stock block 302’s will live longer with over 500whp with a turbo set up! Unlike a supercharger set up. Supercharger set ups pull on the crank causing vibrations all day long making easier for the blocks to crack…seen and read about a couple turbo set ups living at 700whp reliably on stock block 302’s
@stagelaneproductions4548
@stagelaneproductions4548 Месяц назад
Finally! About time Joey came back out with the new setup! Didn’t know he was changing the car color. I like the green
@leesanders8824
@leesanders8824 Месяц назад
I thought Tony and Tess set a stock block/ bottom end record of some sort recently.
@The50Baker
@The50Baker Месяц назад
Impressive for stock block. I'm building a 347 with a stock block right now. I was thinking about keeping it around 12 psi.
@demarques1911
@demarques1911 26 дней назад
I'm a chevy man but I LOVE foxbodies
@BrandonKnight-il9xs
@BrandonKnight-il9xs 18 дней назад
I'm loving mine, I fully built my stock no. Matching block into a 331 stroker in my 88 mustang, quick as he'll, you can't stay into the throttle or you'll wreck it's that simple
@robertdouglas3456
@robertdouglas3456 Месяц назад
Nice little small block Ford!🤩🤩💪💪
@malevolencemotorsports8361
@malevolencemotorsports8361 24 дня назад
Ah alcohol, brings tears to the eyes
@V8velocityracing
@V8velocityracing Месяц назад
The green looks amazing got to love the 302 old school engine
@AshleyFox275
@AshleyFox275 29 дней назад
So glad to see Joey still kicking ass!!! I absolutely love these videos with him and his SBE 302s! Thank you John!
@BluMaGiKCj
@BluMaGiKCj Месяц назад
Great video! 🔥 Love seeing what these filled stock blocks can do. My old 355 “010” block cracked naturally aspirated 🤷
@jimmymccormick142
@jimmymccormick142 Месяц назад
Awesome setup getting it done for whats there
@BrandonKnight-il9xs
@BrandonKnight-il9xs 18 дней назад
Sounded phenomenal
@tomhamilton9140
@tomhamilton9140 Месяц назад
Nice car. Time will tell how fast and how reliable. Good luck guys.
@JR-Rollin
@JR-Rollin Месяц назад
Nice combo..have a TTrim on my stock block with a stud girdle, track heat heads, stock rods, pistons, and cam making almost 500 to the wheels on 10lbs of boost. 10lbs with 4" discharge into 70 to 90mm accufab race throttlebody on pump gas. One day ill convert to e85 or race gas and see what it will do, but its been a 13yr reliable combo, so don't want to kill it, but will probably sell it, and start new with a notch and dart block, etc...
@Godswork95
@Godswork95 29 дней назад
I’ve been watching a good while now and one thing I know is that you know how to work the bug out and get those turbos to do what they need to do. I meant to stop and talk to you in Darlington the other weekend but it was just too much going on
@davesilva75
@davesilva75 Месяц назад
Love this..but why no tfs heads or afrs.!?
@TheBucketlistMob
@TheBucketlistMob 16 дней назад
Goals brother!!
@harrisonclark4382
@harrisonclark4382 Месяц назад
Sick car brother. I like it a lot.
@echota23
@echota23 Месяц назад
Did yall run the DSS main stud girdle or a different brand stud girdle?
@alertgasper
@alertgasper 27 дней назад
Ford designed the low deck Windsor to be light enough for a Falcon and began at 221 cid (the tall deck had more beef). which is why many 289/302's don't want to bore over more than .040 inches. but some "casting mistake" blocks will go .060 over. also, the original firing order set the front cylinders off at the same time, so if you use an older grind of camshaft, plus the different crankshaft weight found in the fuel injected Fox 302's, and then crank down a blower belt on that front crank snout...
@austinmathis95
@austinmathis95 29 дней назад
im messing with a sbf also, i have watch those videos of joey with the nitrous combo i few times.... taking notes.
@danmyers9372
@danmyers9372 Месяц назад
I presume the block has been filled for strengthening?
@87mustang87
@87mustang87 Месяц назад
How much concrete in the block tho?
@auriceburrell8148
@auriceburrell8148 Месяц назад
Dont know who recommended that turbo or if he already had it, but that is way to large for his combination.
@dannyipwn1203
@dannyipwn1203 24 дня назад
Do you do any remote tuning, and are you familiar with Link Ecu ?
@TurboJohnRacing
@TurboJohnRacing 24 дня назад
I’ve never heard of that
@DanielSanchez-mi7be
@DanielSanchez-mi7be Месяц назад
IT'S JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO
@Broski87844
@Broski87844 28 дней назад
Is that a coil conversion? I didn’t notice the distributor?
@UGGdyno
@UGGdyno 22 дня назад
Yes, it runs a coil near plug set up. Similar to an LS. The Holley EFI controls the coils.
@floridaarmedcivilian746
@floridaarmedcivilian746 Месяц назад
Awesome car man!!! 💪 I love watching Joey's cars at uglykidracing. Hauling ass with 302s .
@ComputerCapone
@ComputerCapone 23 дня назад
Aint SBE when its full of concrete.
@BlueByYou07
@BlueByYou07 23 дня назад
LS guys do it all day long!
@alexmann3309
@alexmann3309 29 дней назад
You do any actual dyno pulls? Or just let it come onto boost and lift as soon as the gate opens over and over again?
@travisy7861
@travisy7861 19 дней назад
That is the pull... lol. It's fast
@alexmann3309
@alexmann3309 18 дней назад
@@travisy7861 true, the 1500rwhp cars I tune that take 6 seconds to do a proper pull must be slow…
@707SLAYER
@707SLAYER Месяц назад
GET IN THAT CAR AND SHOW HIM HOW TO MAKE A PULL JOHN ...
@SethStang_
@SethStang_ 26 дней назад
those intake welds are a little rough lol but otherwise badass
@young11984
@young11984 Месяц назад
Glad he is still “disproving” that false internet 500hp your block will split myth……John i think you need a fresh air pipe coming from outside, you are breathing the same thing that engine is taking in too lol
@B3lugaCafe
@B3lugaCafe Месяц назад
It's not a 80s or 90s block
@chrisarnold769
@chrisarnold769 Месяц назад
First, a single engine won't disprove that one is gambling beyond 500rwhp & over 6.5k RPM. Second, this is an early block with thicker webbing than the HO blocks that earned their reputation.
@stockblock302OG
@stockblock302OG 29 дней назад
@@chrisarnold769 1st off He can make it happen with a 89 or even 99 302 block. The 79 block is what he had laying around in the shop, as are all the parts on this build. I have 13 302HO roller blocks on hand and will personally deliver one too Joe if & when hes ready too show all you Internet racers how its done.
@stockblock302OG
@stockblock302OG 29 дней назад
@@chrisarnold769 I turn my Stock stroke 302HO engines 7800rpm no problem, it's the 50oz Crankshaft that breaks, not the "so called weak roller blocks". Even with a hi dollar race balancer & good flex plate it is just too much weight slinging around, I can speak from experience
@chrisarnold769
@chrisarnold769 28 дней назад
@@stockblock302OG What is it that you take issue with, exactly?
@robbarabanoff-wd3ef
@robbarabanoff-wd3ef Месяц назад
Oh, the block is filled with magic mud 🤔
@damianlindsey6177
@damianlindsey6177 Месяц назад
I have been making 570hp at the flywheel with my stock block 302 for 3 years. It is not filled but I also had it internally balanced when it was built and I dont rev it past 6700. They survive if you aren't a dumbass trying to spin the 50oz weight 7500rpm
@joshwynn1836
@joshwynn1836 Месяц назад
Not to be bashing the Ford platform, but I had a 02 Camaro w/a 403" LS2, and it was making 567hp at the tires, more than my dad's solid roller BBC! Just a mild, hydraulic roller nitrous camshaft, decent heads... nothing special, no fill, aluminum block that's 100lbs lighter than its twin iron block! My new turbo setup, which is a iron 408, Dart Pro1 225's, best valve trane you can get, with a FIS 91/102 turbo. Should make some steam for a streetcar with a/c still! I was steered away from doing a half fill, so I could get more strength, but still run water through the block... 570 is nothing to be ashamed of though, what's the car run..? My 02 went 10.30's on motor, 8.50's on a non-progressed 200 shot! It still made flatline power at 7500rpm, which is where we stopped w/stock lifters! I'm sure your car is about 7-800lbs lighter too!lol
@02autogt
@02autogt 28 дней назад
​@@joshwynn1836😂😂😂 you GM guys 😂😂😂 How about y'all just meet up and race...
@JonesRacing79
@JonesRacing79 Месяц назад
Is it Cemented?
@jamesdavis4859
@jamesdavis4859 Месяц назад
What up bro
@FredAllenBurge
@FredAllenBurge Месяц назад
Man that's a lot of boost on a really nice and big turbo for just 7xx hp. I made that on a 5.3 with a 80mm VS turbo at 22psi.
@StrongForceRacing
@StrongForceRacing 29 дней назад
Boost is just a measure of restriction, that turbo is barely into its efficiency zone if I had to guess and the motor just cant move the air. The pulls are also shortened, which I'm sure with more RPM it would pick up power.
@edmundnlemadim8480
@edmundnlemadim8480 28 дней назад
lmao apples and oranges comparing a sbf 302 to a LS 5.3, pull that 5.3 and put in a 305 sbc and see if you'd like what that 305 does with 22psi and a VS 80. 🤣
@FredAllenBurge
@FredAllenBurge 28 дней назад
@@StrongForceRacing it wouldn't make more power with more rpm if the motor can't flow the air already
@FredAllenBurge
@FredAllenBurge 28 дней назад
@edmundnlemadim8480 ya I hear ya, why do people put good money into these old low flow motors?
@chrisarnold769
@chrisarnold769 28 дней назад
​@@FredAllenBurgeFun? There's nothing low flow about them if you really throw money at it. Cubic $$$ >>>> Cubic Inches.
@jasonbrinegar6759
@jasonbrinegar6759 29 дней назад
Very nice!! 8.2 deck 4 life!! 😁
@jkfonyi
@jkfonyi Месяц назад
That turbo seems way overkill for that combo
@chrisarnold769
@chrisarnold769 Месяц назад
Glory numbers for marketing purposes.
@finnroen2334
@finnroen2334 Месяц назад
25 psi of boost is as you know 2.72 MAP. 715 whp / 2.72 MAP = 263 whp from the theoretical NA engine. This is so low I suspect something must be wrong somewhere as the Edelbrock Performer RPM kit is advertised as 367 hp. :)
@Tylerbfz
@Tylerbfz Месяц назад
Yeah that looks like a big turbo and a lot of boost for how little power it made. Also the guy lifted every pull as soon as the power came in
@joshjones6805
@joshjones6805 Месяц назад
The motor was built for boost not a n/a motor... the cam in the motor makes it lose power n/a
@jasonquartermile425
@jasonquartermile425 Месяц назад
Crank HP vs rwhp.....
@ericgalloway461
@ericgalloway461 Месяц назад
Broke my stock block at 365 hp with a straight drive.
@jamiemuncy2219
@jamiemuncy2219 Месяц назад
Well me being FORD TO THE CORE stock block is two bolt mains so he's a TRULY STOCK BLOCK 302 lol the SVO blocks are also considered stock block and the center 3 main caps are four bolt mains and they'll hold a bit more. Beautiful car. But your venturing in to dangerous territory, you'll split that block fellas lol trust m busted a few 8.2 and 9.5 stock blocks lol
@carportshenanigans5918
@carportshenanigans5918 29 дней назад
Yeah, nobody calls an SVO block a “stock block”. Maybe the same people that refer to Explorer intakes as “GT40” intakes.
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
​@carportshenanigans5918 an explorer intake takes the same gaskets as the cobra and gt40 so it essentially is a gt40 that looks different on the outside.
@chrismoher5444
@chrismoher5444 26 дней назад
Chambers size is the difference on the gt40 vs gt40p and also the spark plug placement
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 20 дней назад
@@midnight347they do not flow the same. Better than a stock 5.0 intake sure, but it is still not on the same as the others. Many of the GT40 lower style intakes used the same gasket but that is where the similarities ended. Which works best still comes down to combination, something most never got right even back in the late 90s early 2000s. For instance, GT40 lower and a box upper intake and everything else stock or the biggest mistakes many made, seeing guys through on a 75mm TB with no other engine modifications and couldn’t figure out why the car went slower.
@jakegorman7121
@jakegorman7121 Месяц назад
Well dang I rev my diesel fork truck higher than that!...
@avboysgrandpahollywood
@avboysgrandpahollywood Месяц назад
😂😂😂 I figured
@jtcoker2684
@jtcoker2684 Месяц назад
I think big chief runs the same heads on the crow
@thomasward4505
@thomasward4505 Месяц назад
Except it's a Pontiac
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 20 дней назад
Only thing that is the same is the name Edelbrock.
@nitrozack3062
@nitrozack3062 Месяц назад
Thank god it’s not a 🐺
@dakiddracing9401
@dakiddracing9401 Месяц назад
UKR
@davidbatayias1019
@davidbatayias1019 26 дней назад
Wrong. You can run 800 plus hp on an old school block. Harmonics are the issue with the blocks splitting. Balance and the right girdle will solve that issue. David Vizard has proven this myth wrong numerous times. So quit being apart of the lies and spreading false information.
@MrRandy3504
@MrRandy3504 29 дней назад
Needs to lower the rear
@twannahendrix
@twannahendrix 29 дней назад
no radiator?
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 20 дней назад
It’s the advantage of running Alcohol, no radiator or intercooler required.
@ronseth1225
@ronseth1225 16 дней назад
Methanol fuel drag cars doesnt require radiators.the fuel itself keep the engine cool
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 16 дней назад
@@ronseth1225 dirt cars like modified, late model, etc doesn’t require a radiator either. As I said the advantage of running A/M as a fuel. Just better have a big fuel pump/ fuel system if you make a lot of power especially in a drag racing application. Not that you don’t know this, but I figured since you added to what I did, I’d add a little more lol.
@WhiteTrashin
@WhiteTrashin Месяц назад
I got a 89 notch with stock block pro charged 347 and tko 500 makin 870 at the tire
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 28 дней назад
Seems that some of the internet foxbody "experts" commenting on the 1979-1993 5.0 blocks require a history lesson. There was no 302/5.0 option in 1980 or 1981. A 2 barrel 255v8 was the only v8 option. Go look it up
@chrismoher5444
@chrismoher5444 26 дней назад
Correct 79 had a 302 option than came the sad 255..
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 20 дней назад
Who said there was? I guess I missed all of these comments.
@jdrods1519
@jdrods1519 Месяц назад
🇺🇸💪🏼
@jnljnl8485
@jnljnl8485 18 дней назад
If stout stock parts is important to you don't overlook the 351/400m engines.
@jerryburks2755
@jerryburks2755 Месяц назад
Factory stock block alot of people say stock block if it's bored it's not stock it's a factory ford block
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
Boring it isn't gonna make it hold power better if anything it'll hold less power theorically.
@jerryburks2755
@jerryburks2755 27 дней назад
U only bore a block to c to clean up the cylinders anyway a 347 is not a stock block maybe a factory block
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 20 дней назад
@@jerryburks2755lol it’s still a stock block, if anything a weaker stock block, due to the notches to clear the crank and rods. All the fucking nitpicking is ridiculous.
@jbuckshot01
@jbuckshot01 Месяц назад
Man if he had a Mexican block probably make more. Forgot what the Mexican blocks were in. They had alittle bit different material In them. I think higher iron content don’t remember
@jasonhastings5538
@jasonhastings5538 Месяц назад
Hmmmmm Need to check mine!!!
@jbuckshot01
@jbuckshot01 Месяц назад
@@jasonhastings5538 back in the 90’s the only really blocks used were Mexican blocks or A4 blocks. The boss blocks with the 4 bolt main caps were too expensive same as the other ago blocks.
@jasonhastings5538
@jasonhastings5538 Месяц назад
@@jbuckshot01 i have afew 302ho engines!! I need to look into this!!
@jbuckshot01
@jbuckshot01 Месяц назад
@@jasonhastings5538 I don’t remember what the casting number is for the Mexican block. Of course nowadays there is a list of nice blocks and I heard tue Mexican and A4’s can’t be worth a good amount to the older guys out there
@danielrita9663
@danielrita9663 Месяц назад
The Roller block is one that's known for splitting older ones are OK mexican 302 mostly came in trucks production 69 to 75 most more common in 71 to 74 I think... ours came out of a 72 f100 ranger
@southsidexpress
@southsidexpress Месяц назад
It’s a Ford thing 😂
@2008aspangler
@2008aspangler Месяц назад
How is he not breaking the block
@jondahl3173
@jondahl3173 Месяц назад
By being conservative on the tune. And the early blocks have more meat in the main cap area of the block. Plus the Boss 302 crank.
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 Месяц назад
The current stock block, stock bottom end record holder told me that the main thing is keep them from detonating, they'll live well past 500hp.
@avboysgrandpahollywood
@avboysgrandpahollywood Месяц назад
I’m excited to see what it runs, I currently have the stock shortblock record with the graymare 5.42@126 And there is little things to make them live
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 Месяц назад
@@avboysgrandpahollywood Yeah Tony, you're the one who told me that, lol
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 Месяц назад
That is an old wives tale. Yes they may be a little fragile but that tale is b/s. Unless you detonate the thing the whole way with lousy oil pressure. Where an engine will fail and often well before.
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 28 дней назад
Yall are stopping the runs before the converter couples
@joshwynn1836
@joshwynn1836 Месяц назад
Id love to have a clean lil notch like that! Good lookin car, but id put my LS setup in it, if he's interested in putting his setup in a 4th gen Camaro..? I'm down to do some trading!lol
@MoparMafia5.7
@MoparMafia5.7 28 дней назад
A stock bottom end doesn’t come stock with a killer chop sorry
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
Stock bottom end means stock block and stuff some people say short block which is pistons rods block crank etc. Being cammed has nothing to do with it being or not being a stock bottom end.
@drgibs347
@drgibs347 Месяц назад
Lets clarify, a 302 is not something that came in fox bodys. Its the 5.0 ho rollor blocks that are weak, and the old 302 blocks are quite strong, mexican 302 blocks are even stronger. And inb4 the (but a 5.0 ho is a 302) yes.. in Displacement only the blocks are different.
@ericdanielson1138
@ericdanielson1138 Месяц назад
302s did come in a fox platform in 78 with Faremonts and in 79 mustangs. Which became a HO or 5.0 302 (351w firing order) in the mid 80s.
@scottrussell2281
@scottrussell2281 Месяц назад
The 302 was available in EVERY year of the Fox Body Mustang from 79-93. They were 2bbl carb engines until 83 which was the first year for a Holley 4bbl, but they always had 302's.
@72nova
@72nova Месяц назад
Never would think joe would be a turbo man
@Headsup9550
@Headsup9550 Месяц назад
The heads, crank, rods and pistons interchange they aren't that different
@caseym3118
@caseym3118 Месяц назад
No different than calling mid 80s sbc with roller lifters and one piece rear main a 5.7 rather a 350 same same 💩 different pile 😂
@ricktroxell6448
@ricktroxell6448 14 дней назад
😂😂😂😂😂 sure spin up the drum so it will be easier to make "horsepower" that's the hole point of trying to measure horsepower is work over time so you can bullshit all you want but those are not accurate readings
@02autogt
@02autogt 28 дней назад
😂😂😂 LMAO at the bench racers in here 😂😂😂 but but but it only makes 5xx horsepower 😂😂😂 WAAAAY to ignorant to understand all of the variables going on right here 😂😂😂
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
They said it traps alot of mph it's likely making way more
@B3lugaCafe
@B3lugaCafe Месяц назад
This is deceiving. Thats not a block from a 80s or 90s mustang
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
So? 80s and 90s mustangs weren't the only vehicles that got 302s lol. It's still a stock block.
@ronseth1225
@ronseth1225 16 дней назад
@@midnight347right 302 are 302 doesn’t matter which year
@Jojo-ix8tg
@Jojo-ix8tg Месяц назад
Somethings wrong. I know its a stock block and all but with 26ibs of boost it only makeing 5 something. Smh sheesh got a long way ti go
@young11984
@young11984 Месяц назад
Last one was 615 i think, RPM heads do not flow all that good (if stock ports) so at the wheels its not that bad but it will make more loaded longer like on the track
@JR-Rollin
@JR-Rollin Месяц назад
Last one was 715hp, and they will make 800hp once they clean it up more, or very close to it.
@Jojo-ix8tg
@Jojo-ix8tg Месяц назад
@@JR-Rollin should be 1000hp no problem smh
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
Dyno numbers don't matter. It made over 700 rwhp later in video. It traps alot of mph and likely makes alot more power this is why dyno numbers don't matter.
@midnight347
@midnight347 27 дней назад
​@Jojo-ix8tg dyno numbers don't matter and how should it be 1000 easy? Because coyotes do that with modern tech and dohc and alot more rpm? It traps at the track as if it makes far more that is what matters not dyno numbers.
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