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I found a video from the d5 conference i think it was, which was very interesting to me. I saw a lot of videos bitching about how mac is better than pc or the other way around. This video (orginally about 2 hours long), showed me something different. So, i've selected the most interesting parts to show you and hopefully make the world, the tech world at least, a bit more restful.

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@WillieWilson99
@WillieWilson99 5 лет назад
If I had a dollar for every pixel in this video, I would have 75 cents
@kliop00023
@kliop00023 5 лет назад
save a bunch in data plan lol
@BrawndoQC
@BrawndoQC 5 лет назад
It was uploaded in 2008 moron.
@miba8303
@miba8303 5 лет назад
you wrong , it is 76.1
@WillieWilson99
@WillieWilson99 5 лет назад
@@miba8303 Oh, sorry, my bad xD
@nicktimestwo
@nicktimestwo 4 года назад
actually, you'd have 84480 dollars
@hassanzafar3233
@hassanzafar3233 5 лет назад
Light blue background, white writing, ladies and gents we've travelled to 2008.
@0sus
@0sus 3 года назад
windows movie maker
@drishalballaney6590
@drishalballaney6590 3 года назад
when youtube suggest this video in 2021-
@ladder3257
@ladder3257 2 года назад
“What in the world is goin on on wall street”
@nikhil_01a
@nikhil_01a 2 года назад
And here im reading your comment in 2021
@zubiarfan
@zubiarfan 2 года назад
& Comic Sans
@rapidecho5705
@rapidecho5705 3 года назад
The way he says “Let me tell the story” LMAO 😂🤣🤣😂
@StevenAkinyemi
@StevenAkinyemi 3 года назад
Steve was good at telling stories.
@emiliak8481
@emiliak8481 3 года назад
+ he realised that no one would understand the terminology Bill was using, unless they’re into technology (myself included)
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@MalayalamTechOfficial
@MalayalamTechOfficial 3 года назад
This video was created using windows movie maker 🥺
@explodingfiregaming
@explodingfiregaming 3 года назад
This video was uploaded 12 years ago. windows movie maker is trash though I will agree.
@yamingamexr4489
@yamingamexr4489 3 года назад
@@explodingfiregaming bruh windows movie maker was the best
@yamingamexr4489
@yamingamexr4489 3 года назад
@@hunterjayfilm oh so you are an apple fanboy looks like you never used windows
@yamingamexr4489
@yamingamexr4489 3 года назад
@@hunterjayfilm i think you are kinda right becuse i have an Iphone and a Ipad
@misthahav7460
@misthahav7460 3 года назад
ഇവിടെയും വന്നോ,😁😁😁
@nipunsehgal7230
@nipunsehgal7230 3 года назад
This seriously comes in Ur recommend after 12 years
@JoshKurien
@JoshKurien 3 года назад
Same... i wonder why
@Dxeeny55881
@Dxeeny55881 3 года назад
Whats wrong with youtube..
@sanjeevA380
@sanjeevA380 3 года назад
@@Dxeeny55881 now 13 years 🤣
@austinkmhi
@austinkmhi 3 года назад
13 years
@nipunsehgal7230
@nipunsehgal7230 3 года назад
@@austinkmhi the time I wrote that message it used to show 12😅
@nellobello7220
@nellobello7220 6 лет назад
I think this video shows this two giants in a moment of their life where thay are more wise, and all the "young competition" is gone. And this is good.
@Adrian-cc5di
@Adrian-cc5di 2 года назад
Only because they’ve both made it this far “Oh wow you really kept up with me”
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@JoeyPistachio
@JoeyPistachio 6 лет назад
Steve Jobs was probably one of the best minds to ever come into the spotlight in the last century or two, he wasn't super intelligent with computers but he was a natural salesman and had a charisma and ability to perform in front of an audience. Things like switching iPhones during the very first demo without anyone noticing to demonstrate the apps. He was just an all around marketing genius and knew how to get a product sold.
@pattyj5846
@pattyj5846 7 лет назад
They were actually friends .read something current. Bill was actually at Steve's memorial. He really did care about Steve and Steve cared about him
@nahiyanalamgir7056
@nahiyanalamgir7056 3 года назад
They kept business and friendship separate. That's what civilized people do.
@supergamingboyvlogsgaming3317
@supergamingboyvlogsgaming3317 3 года назад
@@nahiyanalamgir7056 that’s what highly civilized people do
@fritzhopper5145
@fritzhopper5145 2 года назад
Friendship from competition, is actually very realistic
@jamesb9567
@jamesb9567 2 года назад
Sounds gay tho
@brijeshsamal7035
@brijeshsamal7035 2 года назад
@@jamesb9567 Pathetic
@omarspost
@omarspost 2 года назад
I like how Gates knows more about the technical aspects of apple's own products than Steve Jobs.
@302vettelife2
@302vettelife2 2 года назад
Woz was the brains
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад
That's because Deadbeat Dad Jobs was a con artist, not a genius.
@Ollay245
@Ollay245 2 года назад
@@encycl07pedia- Jobs was clever in his own way, he understood consumers and markets very well, I would argue better than Gates. Gates was always a better systems designer though, if they stayed together I shudder to think what kind of business would have become
@VUnhac
@VUnhac 2 года назад
@@encycl07pedia- Technically genius wont take one very far, not even within his own development team
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад
@@VUnhac Right. He used a lot of people to get where he was.
@kristianehussenmaratas2369
@kristianehussenmaratas2369 6 лет назад
It's like they are still special to each other. They have this intensed rivalry but deep inside them they're still friends. Like exes talking and sharing their fruitful past. Thanks to these two. They shaped the world, truly.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@eula1194
@eula1194 6 лет назад
which pixel was steve jobs and bill gates on?
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875 5 лет назад
hahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaa
@tod3608
@tod3608 5 лет назад
Damn
@BrawndoQC
@BrawndoQC 5 лет назад
2008. When you were a sperm.
@rameshparekh581
@rameshparekh581 5 лет назад
The 4th pixel from the left.
@K1LD3R
@K1LD3R 3 года назад
just the one
@KantoKairyu
@KantoKairyu 4 года назад
It's actually really nice to see that these guys clearly had a lot of respect for one another.
@ChrisBa303
@ChrisBa303 2 года назад
A lot more reasonable than most consumers are these days. Brainwashed enough that they somehow have to defend the brand they already gave a lot of money to.
@kendallwi
@kendallwi 2 года назад
This didn't happen until Jobs got sick. It's still good it happened.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@tealterminater8214
@tealterminater8214 9 лет назад
I believe Apple and Microsoft are both good companies. But I must say, I am more comfortable with PC's than Macs but am more comfortable with iPhones and iPads than windows phones.
@blognewb
@blognewb 9 лет назад
*You know I just tried a mac for the first time in many many years the other day and I thought I was going to finally find out why people love it - You can't double click any window to maximize it. You can't delete only part of the recycle bin. There is no middle click. NO MIDDLE CLICK! Suffice to say, it was so disappointing, and left me even more baffled why people love it apart from being a nice hardware to look at.*
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
blognewb One has a button to maximise the window, if it needs to be maximised. Yes, one can only delete the entire Trash and not part of it, but since it is already in the Trash, it shall either be restored or be fully deleted. The Trash is not a repository for undecided files. One can has middle click with a mouse with three buttons or one uses BetterTouchTool to enable a gesture for middle click. As to you being baffled, it probably has to do with your own computational needs and you deducing others will have the same, when those needs are completely different from your own. I have lived with un-maximised windows for over a decade now and it is fine. I have lived with that Trash behaviour for over a decade, it is fine. As to the middle click, hmm, I have lived with alternatives for almost a decade and it wasn't that hard.
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
Skullbasher Gaming Yeah, I agree. It really is wonderful, how this movie got so many things right the second time around. The director really knows the story better than the one from the first part. But then again, the lead actress was kinda bland compared to the dark actor. Anyway, it was a joy to watch it on my 5" display, though I disliked the black bars on the top and bottom. Why can films not just adhere to one size. Stupid.
@SkullbasherGamingSBG
@SkullbasherGamingSBG 9 лет назад
I left this comment a while ago. He replied to me so I replied back. I'm watching a movie at the moment. Also I'm not trolling which I've already said. I really am just trying to help people. I believe Linux Ubuntu 14.04 is the best OS hands down. Although gamers are forced to use windows to be able to play there games. I'm not saying that Apple has a bad product. I'm just saying that as a company apple is not a good company. There greedy. Every device Apple comes out with has a new charger. Which in turn makes you have to re-buy allot of your accessories. Also another reason Apple is vary greedy. They skimp on parts and charge way more than there devices are worth. Also Apple is a locked down OS/Operating System. If you just want a phone and don't care about apple, get an android device. If you love apple than get an iPhone. I just want to let people know theres better options than apple that are much better.
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
***** BetterSnapTool is one solution.
@PianoTrills
@PianoTrills 3 года назад
So interesting watching their communication style. Steve is clearly a great oral communicator, while I found it harder to understand Gates. Jobs was also very aware of non-verbal cues and the underwritten human aspect of the whole thing. Gates is definitely a numbers guy; a builder, coder, like Wozniak, with a huge talent for business. Jobs is a visionary, the entrepreneur, fluid in his thinking, and intuitive in actions. He sees through all the extraneous information and cuts into the core of the matter.
@RokkieSparrow
@RokkieSparrow 2 года назад
Yes.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@sakenka8095
@sakenka8095 3 года назад
Imagine Bill having a man he can consider his rival. Looking up to him and respecting him while competing with him. Then all of a sudden that rival/inspiration died. That must be pretty devastating.
@SuperPrem
@SuperPrem 3 года назад
Ikr. Very True, a competition is a best mentor.
@falsedragon33
@falsedragon33 2 года назад
Did you not see him deteriorate? I don't see how this was a shock to anybody. His loss of weight and hallowed appearance means it was either cancer or Aids
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад
@@falsedragon33 Are you serious? It's common knowledge that Jobs died of pancreatic cancer. Dumb comment.
@gumfun2
@gumfun2 2 года назад
@@encycl07pedia- Mike was saying that AT THE TIME, it was obvious that Jobs likely had one of those two illnesses given his symptoms. Mike was NOT saying that the cause of Jobs' death is currently unknown.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад
@@gumfun2 Jobs announced that he had pancreatic cancer in a company email in 2004. He died in 2011. You'd have to be living under a rock AT THE TIME to not know about it.
@BK42Cycles
@BK42Cycles 5 лет назад
All what matters is the fact that this two guys have changed the world as it is today :)
@Xeonia
@Xeonia 11 лет назад
"Make love not war" was the cheesiest ending to a video I've ever seen.
@tanmay4217
@tanmay4217 3 года назад
@Toxik Deth Damn you
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 3 года назад
Stan Lee
@blinkvideo
@blinkvideo 4 года назад
Thanks for posting this. I'd never seen it. There was a lot more mutuality between the two CEOs than most folks realize. I think it's their fanbase that got all partisan.
@CrusaderTube
@CrusaderTube 6 лет назад
1:39 "who's we? how many people were in apple?" "Well, me!"
@newarmax2796
@newarmax2796 3 года назад
For upcoming generation this video will be a great source of knowledge. Thanks to u bro. 2021. 04. 28 But I had already watch this full interview in 2016. 01. 12. I remind this date cause I loved the way the conversation begins and ends And the conversation of two ideal was awesome at my experience. &RIP legend Steve Jobs❣❤ It's my honor to born in your era. 1999✨
@MV1197
@MV1197 10 лет назад
most of the people in the comment section didn't even pay attention to the message of the video :(
@bikram1572
@bikram1572 6 лет назад
MV what is it.? Let me know please I am only 11 years old 🤔
@bikram1572
@bikram1572 6 лет назад
Love Love wtf 😂😂
@Its-Ciaran
@Its-Ciaran 6 лет назад
The message of the video is simple: live and let live hence the message being let bot Mac and Pc coexist without arguments as both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were friends in real life Good friends. So why the argument?
@dwightstewart7181
@dwightstewart7181 5 лет назад
Oh, come on. FOR THE CONSUMER, it was Apple versus PC. Consumers were obviously going to purchase one or the other. Even though Apple (Apple II, IIe, Mac Plus, etc) was my earlier choice, Apple eventually lost that game - not because of anything Microsoft did, but because of Apple's (Steve Job's) seemingly endless mistakes (not supporting developers, not expanding it's software base, ousting Woz & others, charging absurd prices, and so on).
@geistermeistr
@geistermeistr 4 года назад
Fuck you
@rockygurumayum8059
@rockygurumayum8059 4 года назад
Uploaded on 2008 and RU-vid recommend me this at 2019
@papaji4545
@papaji4545 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😁yeh
@kanmedlife2494
@kanmedlife2494 3 года назад
In Nov 2020
@prasannakumar2321
@prasannakumar2321 3 года назад
Comments you representing in between conversation made this video very Unique. Especially the Last one Make Love , not War😍✌
@MrAlienDNA
@MrAlienDNA 8 лет назад
Stupid text at the start of video
@DoughBoy45
@DoughBoy45 7 лет назад
Gillian Vann no one cares if you like mac (just fyi)
@gabrielus123gabby
@gabrielus123gabby 6 лет назад
Its not stupid, its vintage :D
@Kasper3443
@Kasper3443 6 лет назад
windows moviemaker
@insertnamehere6446
@insertnamehere6446 6 лет назад
Mo Azade thats youtube pre 2011
@marsbars4767
@marsbars4767 5 лет назад
Mo Azade Well that "stupid text" that you chose to call it isn't even known to almost anyone. Hating it just proved you're a mindless fanboy that hates everything else besides his favorite company even though it doesn't make sense.
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd 6 лет назад
''We ship these Computers with 1g 2gigabytes memory'' I'm sitting here with a phone with 4gbs and a PC with 32gbs. Give it another decade people be having terabytes of memory.
@flm5996
@flm5996 6 лет назад
you're lucky, my laptop only has 4 gigs. must be a nice gaming experience
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd 6 лет назад
CubesFTW with an i7 and 1080ti it's the best at this moment
@flm5996
@flm5996 6 лет назад
Video and photo editing happily uses any amount of ram you have - sure, an i7 is not the best for that kind of thing but I'd opt for slower rendering/export for a better gaming experience
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd 6 лет назад
Cameron Hall ooh jealous
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd 6 лет назад
CubesFTW I use Photoshop alot tends to use a fair amount of Ram. Games like pubg can use up to 12gbs just glad I bought my ram before the price spikes.
@BiHOmar
@BiHOmar 11 лет назад
240p, we meet again.
@Sharkie626
@Sharkie626 8 лет назад
This video speaks the truth. If Steve and Bill were truly against each other, then let me ask you this. Why did things like Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and others.... a Microsoft product, work with Macs? On the other hand, why did Apple products, such as iTunes, iPhones, iPads, what have you, work on computers with Windows? Speaking for myself, I am a Mac user. Why? It is just my preference, I grew up with them, I have found them to be easier to use and I just like the functionality of them better. Are they more expensive? Absolutely. That being said.... I do not change or update hardware as often as some other Mac users do. I am running on an iMac from 2009, and it still works just as it should. I am still on OS X 10.9.5. Why? Because it works just fine, and I don't see a point in updating something until it ABSOLUTELY needs it. If I am ever in a computer room/lab, and the only option was to use a computer with Windows, I will GLADLY use one of them.
@MelodyOfAilingHeart
@MelodyOfAilingHeart 8 лет назад
Because if MS could make money out of Apple, why the hell they shouldn't??
@sparticus214
@sparticus214 8 лет назад
The answer to your question is no programing is truly original, It comes down to algorithms and how hardware executes the code. Never the less its all binary at heart.
@sparticus214
@sparticus214 7 лет назад
i break babies mac has the same Intel crap just extra overpriced :@
@sparticus214
@sparticus214 7 лет назад
***** yes its the same ducks in different rows
@acoolname3085
@acoolname3085 7 лет назад
Even more significantly. back in 1983 Steve and Bill did work together to make the Mac become successful. There was a TV show where Steve said that in order for Mac to be successful he would need three software CEOs, Bill is one of them and he say that in front of Bill himself.
@notajedimaster2489
@notajedimaster2489 6 лет назад
I use both Mac and PC, so I think both are great TBH.
@sal_strazzullo
@sal_strazzullo 5 лет назад
They have different use cases, that's all. I use MS Windows because I need it for work (C# / .NET developer), but I also understand that many people choose Macintosh because they use professional music and video editing software that perform better on MacOS, as well as people that use Linux OSes because they work with web servers and similar things.
@BrianFedirko
@BrianFedirko 3 года назад
i use as many computer platforms as i can get my hands on
@MrBasically810
@MrBasically810 3 года назад
I use both too
@dreamworksmotorwerks3380
@dreamworksmotorwerks3380 7 лет назад
Two of brightest minds in the world.
@coolcat7429
@coolcat7429 6 лет назад
Dreamworks Motorwerks u talk like a CP parrot
@amedias8961
@amedias8961 6 лет назад
Steve Wozniak is the real bright mind of Apple.
@nolans5906
@nolans5906 6 лет назад
Dreamworks Motorwerks I kinda disagree
@lulube11e111
@lulube11e111 6 лет назад
Theay are not
@StingyCrew
@StingyCrew 6 лет назад
*Best salesmen
@nestorchikoti
@nestorchikoti 4 года назад
Yeah they are such good friends, suing the hell out of each other. True friendship.
@alecwhatshisname5170
@alecwhatshisname5170 3 года назад
What's a few million between two billionaires? 😁
@Chezmaster
@Chezmaster 3 года назад
to them loosing a couple million dollars is like losing a pawn in a game of chess
@RandomFreak333
@RandomFreak333 3 года назад
I’m unsure as to why this has been recommended to me but the random recommended videos are always interesting
@SuperPrem
@SuperPrem 3 года назад
mhm
@TPzita
@TPzita 5 лет назад
Seeing this again in 2018 ... having a nostalgic moment ...
@gunnardeross
@gunnardeross 5 лет назад
Both are fantastic computers! I use both on a daily basis and I can say that both Mac and PC are both great in their own ways.👍
@miller2211
@miller2211 2 года назад
Finally 13 years completed of this meet-ups
@carlos0915munoz
@carlos0915munoz 5 лет назад
It’s wonderful how RU-vid recommends me a 11 year old video
@ElitePlaysz
@ElitePlaysz 3 года назад
13*
@carlos0915munoz
@carlos0915munoz 3 года назад
@@ElitePlaysz 😐
@ElitePlaysz
@ElitePlaysz 3 года назад
@@carlos0915munoz Time flies
@loser3357
@loser3357 2 года назад
@@carlos0915munoz 14* 😢
@astralisk
@astralisk 9 лет назад
did anyone even read the title
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
TITLE'S SUCK
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
***** "Of course! It's made in Windows Crap Movie Maker©!" Hey, WMM titles are the beeeeest.
@nebulastory6665
@nebulastory6665 9 лет назад
***** Well thats because some people can't afford high tech stuff.
@IndecisiveFella
@IndecisiveFella 9 лет назад
***** Those 0 USD come at the price of registration though, thus the company will have your blood type and all the information about one's sex drive. That cannot happen, not while I am watching this shit.
@gabrielus123gabby
@gabrielus123gabby 6 лет назад
the what?
@PraveenKumar-in4ht
@PraveenKumar-in4ht 4 года назад
Back then those companies are in the hands of very passionate people who entirely focus on the products but not business but now they are focusing on business but not products.
@vikaschandra5068
@vikaschandra5068 2 года назад
Bill quit microsoft and Steve is dead what do you expect
@vikaschandra5068
@vikaschandra5068 2 года назад
Though microsoft is actually doing a Good job in os
@threalismaradona9899
@threalismaradona9899 4 года назад
Could you image if they really joined forces in the same company Jobs the marketing genius and Bill the technical guru plus Woz and Ivy that would have been amazing
@FormalBro
@FormalBro 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tTW51mmM8mc.html
@soumyabhattacharjee6442
@soumyabhattacharjee6442 3 года назад
And balmer would be running around saying "developers developers"
@martiananomaly
@martiananomaly 2 года назад
MicroApple or AppleSoft
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx Год назад
gates stock is heavily heavily dropping in comparison to steves' which keep rising, a legacy
@videokaru
@videokaru 5 лет назад
Unbelievable that i have not seen this part of the interview yet :D
@vitotheo
@vitotheo 5 лет назад
Your profile pic is now a screenshot of your most viewed video.
@mjp29
@mjp29 4 года назад
Been along for this ride for many years. Now I use Linux.
@TheArtimus16
@TheArtimus16 3 года назад
This is kind of like modern day with iOS and Android. It's almost always about the software and not the hardware. Which they both pretty much do the same things. It's just preference to what somebody uses, and just because somebody uses one side or the other, it doesn't mean that they have to hate the other one. Let people use what OS they want and go on about your day.
@GabrielRodriguez-cu4do
@GabrielRodriguez-cu4do 3 года назад
I love seeing these 2 together
@bhagwatkhade1526
@bhagwatkhade1526 3 года назад
Two Legends together.
@KishanSingh-mh8hv
@KishanSingh-mh8hv 5 лет назад
I remember the year 2009 when i was trying to upload videos in youtube, it was not successfull, but later on i converted the video to 3gp format and it was successfully uploaded, that is the reason this video has poor quality.
@martinzaragoza5027
@martinzaragoza5027 5 лет назад
holy shit, a 2008 video with windows movie maker
@JPX64Channel
@JPX64Channel 3 года назад
And steve jobs comparing pcs from the 80s with 120kb to 1gb or 2gb of ram ddr1/2 800mhz (2006) and now that a consumer can get up to 64Gb 3600mhz ram, i wish steve was able to see the limits of moore's law
@stanleysmooth
@stanleysmooth Год назад
I like that these two giants of the tech industry sound like kids doing a powerpoint presentation when you put them together.
@ArunWadhwa
@ArunWadhwa 8 лет назад
True. I mean they both offer a rich competition. And believe me when I say that, I personally think both of the OS have their pros and cons. And you couldn't go wrong by choosing either one of them for your personal use.
@johnsmithee6660
@johnsmithee6660 5 лет назад
If Steve Jobs was around, our iPhone's would still have headphone jacks
@austinsmith3808
@austinsmith3808 5 лет назад
John Smithee and they’d still have 3.5 - 4” displays (which is somewhat okay in my opinion)
@phillipmakris7345
@phillipmakris7345 5 лет назад
would that be good or bad?
@CenobiteBeldar
@CenobiteBeldar 4 года назад
I don’t think so. Steve Jobs was an envelope pushing opportunist. If he could do it, he would. iPhone exploded and it’s gotten better. Steve Jobs I’m sure would have wanted feedback from customers such as longer battery life. If it gives users an extra 3-4 hours of battery life by removing the headphone jack, you think Steve Jobs wouldn’t take that compromise?
@Keimakamisama
@Keimakamisama 4 года назад
If i were to describe myself, i am bill gates when i try to tell a very good and inspiring story to either my client, friend or audiences. I wish my brain could keep up with what i wanted to say :(
@robertjohnson4301
@robertjohnson4301 2 года назад
Both guys were smart enough to know that anything but a symbiotic relationship would be MAD
@kylekashiwabara6310
@kylekashiwabara6310 10 лет назад
part of being a good fan is being humble, and not boasting too much, yet being supportive. and (here's the big one) truthful. for me the truth is I will always want mac stuff, and why? "because".need I say more?
@TheJosephStalin420
@TheJosephStalin420 6 лет назад
My god their relationship is soo deep and inspiring!....why do people keep fighting over mac and Pc
@TALHA-hr6xf
@TALHA-hr6xf 8 лет назад
All the dislikes are from Linus guys haha
@TALHA-hr6xf
@TALHA-hr6xf 8 лет назад
***** yes good point, i meant most users on ubuntu right now; stereotypically they hate windows and mac
@edmundthefox3656
@edmundthefox3656 8 лет назад
+Electric Vez No.. Mac is UNIX based, it's different from linux. Linux is UNIX *LIKE*
@ccr_enjoyer
@ccr_enjoyer 6 лет назад
Edmund The Fox Linux Is Not UniX. It has monolithic kernel while Unix-like OS has distributed one
@SimonLedoux
@SimonLedoux 4 года назад
MacOS is based on linux...
@kamkamkamkamkamkamkamkam
@kamkamkamkamkamkamkamkam 3 года назад
@@SimonLedoux MacOS is based on BSD, which is based on Unix. Linux was designed to be similar to Unix but isn't actually a derivative of it.
@FMD023
@FMD023 5 лет назад
After seeing the movie about Steve jobs life I thought him and Bill hated each other. I know the book said Steve jobs was very hard to work with and a big time A hole. It's really nice to hear from Steve himself that he called Bill to patch things. Especially someone with Steve's Ego.
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 2 года назад
The difference between them is that Bill Gates was a programmer as well as the co-founder of Microsoft while Steve Jobs was a Marketing genius behind Apple's success. Bill has the upper hand here.
@jibic9951
@jibic9951 6 лет назад
"Had"
@meme_da1nonly222
@meme_da1nonly222 6 лет назад
1990's microsoft vs apple 2018 samsung vs apple
@ei3046
@ei3046 3 года назад
samsungs better
@kimjongun4150
@kimjongun4150 3 года назад
why am i getting this 13 years later
@venangoproductions
@venangoproductions 3 года назад
I love how CEOs get along, even though their respective businesses aren’t very friendly with each other
@rsr789
@rsr789 10 лет назад
128K lol. I have 11.5 TB's hooked up to my Macmini...!
@handlemeifyoucan144
@handlemeifyoucan144 7 лет назад
technology banter
@ltopo3551
@ltopo3551 3 года назад
the quality of this video reminds me of my childhood
@lifeofram8324
@lifeofram8324 6 лет назад
two legends who turned the world into super fast..
@bg357wg
@bg357wg 2 года назад
When you realize Gold Roger and Garp once teamed up…
@user-fr9bs5nw9s
@user-fr9bs5nw9s 2 года назад
👍👍👍👍
@animadoarts5123
@animadoarts5123 3 года назад
Xeros leaves the chat.
@aryasawant9303
@aryasawant9303 3 года назад
i have a mac and windows destop side by side and i have syned both the video on both of them and enjoying it
@saranshkumar1744
@saranshkumar1744 3 года назад
Back then the competition was even higher than now.
@kevkentis
@kevkentis 10 лет назад
Thank you for making Windows it changed our world!!!!! and made me lots of money ;-)
@jameswhite2296
@jameswhite2296 2 года назад
Watching their expressions, it's clear that Bill was the alpha in the room.
@OS-yg9fr
@OS-yg9fr 2 года назад
lol wrong
@jameswhite2296
@jameswhite2296 2 года назад
@@OS-yg9fr BS - Jobs was still preening for him. You really don't know the backstory. Jobs returned as interim CEO to Apple in early 1997, after being ousted by the Board years before. His company was faltering badly in 1997 b/c of some poor product decisions and needed money. Gates and Microsoft offered $150M which the company accepted. There is the infamous live-stream of Gates at the Macworld conference - a huge screen behind Jobs - in which Gates is smiling and gloating as the Apple fateful boo him. In other words, Gates saved Apple's (and Job's) ass. Gates has always owned Jobs in a way.
@neomaidrix
@neomaidrix 3 года назад
the engineer and the salesman, what more could you ask for?
@Cookiekekw
@Cookiekekw 3 года назад
This was the year that bill sounded and looked most like kermit
@giovanniciotti4100
@giovanniciotti4100 5 лет назад
2:32 Coming up next on "Women really aren't respected by most men."
@kingcrocbbc6730
@kingcrocbbc6730 3 года назад
Thank God. 98% have nothing meaningful to say
@drbassgreg
@drbassgreg 6 лет назад
As a computer history buff, PhD in Comp Eng, etc., I see what you are trying to say and do here. The merits of your argument are completely valid and are in fact the only way to truthfully depict the history of personal computing with respect to the two companies. But anyone with any sensibility will be turned off to your (valid and singularly correct) argument firstly because the video's title basically orders the viewer to do something that, until hearing an argument, they may not agree with. So those with a differing (and again, incorrect) view of personal computing history start the consideration of your arguments points with a bias against them. Second, most point of your (again, correct) argument contain the phrase 'you people' . It's just a phrase that makes nobody happy. I'd suggest "Those who think it's a war between Mac and PC". 'You people' even says to people who agree with you that you think your arguments and way of thinking are beyond reproach. In summary, you sound like an arrogant elitist who thinks they are above everyone else. This may or may not be true but it's never something that's helpful in convincing others to change their views on anything. It shouldn't prevent someone from changing their views either...but most people allow their emotions to interfere with rational thought ... Just trying to help you make the argument and change many more minds in in the future .
@dbg6227
@dbg6227 5 лет назад
You talk nonsense, PhD from the peoples republican party of nigeria's university
@eXpergefacio0
@eXpergefacio0 8 лет назад
Walt Mossberg (the journalist or interviewer) say in a documentary that he has heard them both say really bad things about the other. Still, the CEO's of both companies having a king of friendship, doesn't keep away the fact that both OS's have theri strong points (and for Windows that's mainly that it is not locked to a piece of hardware), and therefore there will always be a discussion of which one is best suited.
@grenda5
@grenda5 5 лет назад
those Mac vs PC commercials went for PCs jugular.and Steve must have authorized it.
@makasete30
@makasete30 5 лет назад
Well they had to get some market share from the dominant Platform and raise awareness. Yet, They were actually incredibly respectful. The pc guy was likeable, the ads were widely liked and thought funny, and this was the intention. And it was a successful campaign that continued for some time. A normal add campaign would not have succeeded because they had to show why the Mac was better. They attacked the deficiencies of the PC, and made the MAC seem cool, but it was nothing like what Samsung does which insults, mocks, and derides apple users, apple stores etc. THAT would be going for the “jugular”. Compare that too with the surface pro adds which attack the deficiencies of iPad, but do not insult the users. Someone high up must have authorised that too.
@angercollections.
@angercollections. 10 лет назад
All i can say is, just use whatever computer you're comfortable with. There shouldn't be a competition of whose better because both can deliver. Stop comparing.
@haymjack
@haymjack 7 лет назад
I really wish Steve Jobs was still around, that was when Apple was at its best, but ever since his passing I personally feel like the company is being greedy in many ways. It was so hard for me to just convert to PC, because I used Macs so much and I loved them.
@harshsinghbindra7471
@harshsinghbindra7471 3 года назад
@Humberto Fernandez yes but if steve was here that wont be the case
@universalyoutuber195
@universalyoutuber195 3 года назад
This RU-vidr again uploading is peace
@emptyspotlight
@emptyspotlight 5 лет назад
It's like the beatles and stones they never fought or were rivals
@morning5tarr
@morning5tarr 4 года назад
My thoughts: Who compares mac vs pc ?! I surely heard about mac vs Microsoft !
@BenRangel
@BenRangel 4 года назад
L. MorningStar what? Apple themselves did it. Remember the ”PC guy” ads that Apple used to run in the 00s? Where they compared ”macs to PCs” Even though Apple started out calling their machines PCs in the 70s/80s - in the 90s the language changed and people started to distinguish the terms, Macs started to become a separate term and PC most often referred to non-mac operating systems.
@morning5tarr
@morning5tarr 4 года назад
@@BenRangel that's so racist of them😅
@halofire4725
@halofire4725 4 года назад
Bill gates is humble compared to Steve Jobs.
@paologalliani4172
@paologalliani4172 4 года назад
Yes... I prefer Steve Job he is so tough
@queerdeer12
@queerdeer12 4 года назад
Bill gates is just as much a ball buster as Steve Jobs. However, Steve Jobs appears to have "seen some things".
@ayadea6795
@ayadea6795 6 лет назад
Windows for my desktop, iPhone & Android as my phones. Killer combo for me.
@harchan6274
@harchan6274 3 года назад
Got this in recommended after 12yrs
@nildmalindi6054
@nildmalindi6054 5 лет назад
Wonder what the conclusions of the video editor would've been after mac anouncing its $6,000 mac pro with $5,000 screen and $1,000 stand!
@rickyleonardi7605
@rickyleonardi7605 4 года назад
tbh, the screen looks promising.. but that $1000 stand.. cant help it anymore
@sccanj
@sccanj 4 года назад
Who cares, still way cheaper than first computers, only poor people complain about prices of things Instead think how can I make that money to buy that thing
@mill1189
@mill1189 3 года назад
Uh, I see a 35,000$ display over there?
@rke4377rke
@rke4377rke 4 года назад
Anyone noticed how intent Steve looked at Bill in that one moment? He truly admired Bill for the same reason he was admired. Brilliant minds think alike folks. we should all learn from this and start sharing ideas instead of dollars for when you share a dollar, you still have... a dollar... when you share an idea, both now now have... 2 ideas.. it’s beautiful... cherish these moments, and make them your own.
@trevorclark7985
@trevorclark7985 2 года назад
you can see how steve is the entertainer and bill knows all the technical stuff
@jgordon7719
@jgordon7719 2 года назад
What the two geniuses understand in the room that the interviewers don't is that the business is constantly changing, there are times where they are in competition and times where they can work together. It's not always about the here and now. Matter of fact, it's almost always not about the here and now but it's usually about the next thing coming
@RaoCode
@RaoCode 3 года назад
YO GUYS WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF QUARANTINE VIDEOS
@Abandionee54634
@Abandionee54634 5 лет назад
yea. Microsoft saved apple one time mac and pc are both good
@shalevhaham
@shalevhaham 3 месяца назад
I wonder how uncomfortable this interview would be today with Satya and Tim
@CoolBeans-uk1yk
@CoolBeans-uk1yk 3 года назад
Damn, this is some crispy 16k content right here. Didn’t even know they supported that resolution yet!
@stockjonebills
@stockjonebills 8 лет назад
Without these two we'd still being using archaic hardware and software.
@owenb6499
@owenb6499 8 лет назад
Agreed
@Km599
@Km599 8 лет назад
+stockjonebills Not really, other people would have assumed their roles and done what they did, probably in a different way however.
@stockjonebills
@stockjonebills 8 лет назад
Km599 how long would that have taken? Most big iron fortune 500 companies had no real foresight or vision for personal computing. Xerox could have been Apple or Microsoft but we all know about their oversight with Parc.
@Strateg31
@Strateg31 6 лет назад
PC = Personal Computer = Mac ..
@GeekPeek
@GeekPeek 5 лет назад
Mackintosh computer
@thepotatoghost7709
@thepotatoghost7709 3 года назад
*Mac*instosh
@ralphgraham8982
@ralphgraham8982 10 лет назад
I agree, you can use boot loader or parallels virtual machine to run windows on mac.
@girilakshman4521
@girilakshman4521 4 года назад
good enough to know nothing else matters than idea.
@phoenixwolfyt
@phoenixwolfyt 9 лет назад
PC master race boy
@mad_cat431
@mad_cat431 6 лет назад
Phoenix Wolf both mac and Windows computers are PC:s
@c.a.g.3130
@c.a.g.3130 3 года назад
The world got very gray when we lost Steve Jobs. Thank God we now have Elon Musk.
@aldilanovrizal9432
@aldilanovrizal9432 6 лет назад
backthen steve was focusing on hardware and its exclusive platform, the other hand bill was focusing on the software that works on all hardware or platform
@EonForever
@EonForever 3 года назад
It's funny how 1 to 2 gbs of memory seemed like a lot during the time of the interview when most commerical computers today have an average of 8 to 12 gbs . Really shows you how fast computer technology advances.
@aaronmuldowney2064
@aaronmuldowney2064 3 года назад
More like 16
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