A video all about baritones. Long overdue. Features John Legend, Michael Buble, Scott Hoying, Alejandro Manzano, Hwanhee of Fly to The Sky & Seth Macfarlane.
^ mostly for comfort purposes because (most) basses can't belt above C4 without sounding like they're being strangled (me being in that category bc i can't mix for shit)
I'm a huge Pentatonix fan, I love them all, I'm being honest, Scott is not even the best singer in that group. Doesn't need to be cuz he's a great leader and composer (arrangement creator). He's a very strong and talented singer; however, saying he's one of the most developed in pop is arguable, and why would it even matter in pop. I kind've wish people were able to just enjoy good music and would stop making comparisons (I'm a hypocrite, I know, I've a reason to be one right now though), especially in whatever-works pop music. There's so much more talent and development in other (definitely not all other) genres of music. take Dimash Kudaibergen (who is a baritone btw) for example. Who in pop can compete with that? People don't have to be the best or one of the best to be great. I think it's more than enough to say I really like this artist, or these are my favorite. Trying to qualify that by saying they are better than most every one else is weird. That is just your opinion, leave comparisons for bonified singing experts. Damn, ranting because statements by non-experts trigger me. Singing experts tend to be very gracious to anyone doing their best to sing, and won't usually give their honest opinion until you corner them.
I'm not an expert, I'm only a near expert (because I have undergone training and at least know what you are supposed to do). I'm not qualified enough to say who the best in the pop business is or even the top 20 (if I had to guess, I'd say probably Ariana Grande (don't even like her music)). I do know enough to say that Scott's technique is not perfect, way better than me though, whereas it's a little harder to tell with some of the other members in Pentatonix. I still love Scott though, and will watch pretty much anything with him in it (have y'all seen Lost on You with Mario Jose? (Mario Jose flat out makes me jealous).
Yes, Ariana Grande. I don’t listen to her music-not my thing-but her technique is undeniable. Like said, I know I’m not qualified to say who is best, this is just my opinion from what I’ve heard and seen. She has mastered all of her voice type strats (chest, mixed and head-I’ve no idea how that little body can belt like that), her placement on the notes is impeccable and will sing circles around almost anyone. And she can do all this in the most incredible positions. While dancing, laying on the the floor, in the passenger seat of a car, scrunched up in a cramped space. You can be like me and dislike her art, but don’t tell me she ain’t accomplished.
John is so freaking consistent he really doesn't seem to struggle even at the top of his range. Like the only thing stopping him is his natural physiological limit.
@@memoirsofanimperfectbaritone Hahaha ... You're right!! He's amazing.. Even though John legend emotes really really well... Bubble is my favorite voice out of the lot..
brandon castillo most of them. None of them sing like baritones anyway. Just because you don’t make your voice small like a girl doesn’t make you a baritone lol. These guys sing smaller than small opera tenors. Seems silly to call them baritones when they aren’t anything
Purple Petals I really can’t hear buble being a natural baritone. Lacks the cord length and vocal tract length. Very standard pop tenory sound imo. It’s just all these really small thin voices have warped perception a bit. If you want to hear a more obvious baritone instrument listen to Brian stokes Mitchell wheels of a dream
Purple Petals and then you get into opera and hear what a real baritone can sound like 😂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HVWuOeM1HIc.html
Purple Petals That really wasn't an opinion but a fact. Please see for yourself.. kpopvocalanalysis.net/2016/08/04/bts-vocal-analysis-v/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baritones_in_non-classical_music Are you sure you are not confusing v with another idol?
KimiDesu so why does John legend sing smaller than a small tenor? 10:15 this is an opera baritone mate ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CHVqhRMVgvg.html
@@enricocaricatuscuroso763 The guy you showed in that video is decent, but he's not an amazing baritone. He is rather woofy and he could project better if he didn't force his voice so much. But he has some good in his technique otherwise he couldn't project on an orchestra at all.
honestly i think they were just in the background while the creator explained stuff. like how to show what people now a days think baritones sound like then compare them to actual baritones.
As a baritone, I want to say thank you. Because I always liked tenor-singers like Ed Sheeran, Steven Tyler and Bruno Mars. Finding out, that I'm a baritone was such a stroke. But now I feel much better, I never thought, that John Legend is a baritone.
Baritones are so underestimated, it’s so sad and it sucks. They can surprise us at any time and that’s so amazing. They should be recognized more. I hate people that say “y’all can’t sing high notes”, that’s WRONG. Our voice is emotional, moving, it tells a story behind it. Just like y’all appreciate other high voices, appreciate ours too💜
@@brighte2712 plus they can sing high notes! It’s just that a high note for a baritone is a f4, just like for a soprano is a f5… but at f4 a baritone is able to display power and resonance just like a soprano would do with a f5. A well trained baritone can belt, but his belts are lower than other voice types… but you can bet that a f4 belted by a baritone would drown a f4 sang by a woman because a woman’s voice hasn’t normally taken off at that height, while a baritone’s voice is already flying… those high notes deserve to be appreciated even if they are not high by the standards of a higher voice type, just like a woman’s 3d octave notes deserve appreciation even if they aren’t low by the standards of a baritone. Also baritones are able to hit 3d and 2d octave with ease, while for other voice types (except for basses), these notes can be hard to hit or barely audible… a baritone can go down to the bottom of the 2nd octave and that’s just as special as going up to the 5th octave in belting. Low notes are just as beautiful and important as high notes, it’s just that pop doesn’t showcase them much. John Legend or Scott Hoying are more proficient at singing than almost all tenors out there today (with few exceptions such as Adam Lambert etc etc)
@@AnimalsKevinthe chances of u being a baritone is much higher than a tenor because baritone are more common than tenor it a completely male voice where it is balance between the high and the low tbh idk why people don’t like balance I begin to feel very bored by music now a day because everyone sound like Bieber tone all are tenor
@@saysamnang9851actually it’s not. Very big misconception. Tenor is more common. Most male voices are untrained to sing at the extremes of their voices (as is any untrained voice) so they do most of their singing in midrange. Either that, or they’re trained so well as Tenors to sing big, dark & loud & have excellent chest development, that people automatically assume they’re Baritones b/c they sing big, dark & have solid low notes.
John Legend and Michael Buble have inspired my singing so much. I'm trying to do my part as well to give baritone singers like myself a place in pop music! We're very versatile singers!! :)
Hwanhee has one of the brightest baritone voices I've ever heard. It's all the more impressive when you realize his voice sits just below the tenor clef, which easily makes him very versatile as a singer (tenor or baritone). Also, I always appreciated Scott Hoyings voice since I first heard him in his early Pentatonix days. Such talented singers in this video. So wholesome.
@@redvelvetismyreligion9871 He is a baritone though... more like a bruno mars of the baritones. Meaning, most baritones cannot reach the notes as high as hwanhee, much like most tenors might not be comfortable hitting like bruno mars... In my opinion, baritones tend to belt with much needed support at higher notes (G4 and above) than with a tenor. Even a low tenor would be quite comfortable at G4 as far as I understood it...
@@falkfinkthat only applies to average, untrained &/or underdeveloped Tenors. The biggest & lowest of the Tenors can sing a G4 in full voice fairly easily when trained Rt. Most trained Tenors maintain full voice function to the high C at least. That whole head dominant above F4 thing you said, once again, only applies to underdeveloped/untrained Tenors, & even then, there’s plenty of those who can stay chest dominant above F.
Okay imma Baritone so love this but low key (pun intended) I feel like Altos are the most underrated of the Vocal groups. Like when a girl can hit a low note it’s so pretty imo.
Justin Bieber a Baritone? WTF!! I am a Tenor and my voice sounds twice thicker than him. He is a Light-Lyric Tenor with a bad tehnique, the same goes with Shawn Mendes. If someone can sing some lower notes that doesn't mean he is a Baritone. All that matters is where your voice shines, where you feel the most comfortable to sing. True pop Baritones are: Michael Bublé, Frank Sinatra, John Legend, Rick Astley, Seth MacFarlane etc.
Eventhough he is goofy on Family Guy I love hearing Brian cause that is actual voice and when he sings a Brian I love it too. He is very blessed with that voice.
Just a dude passing by Nah Justin is definitely a light lyric tenor, his voice is not weighty or dark the same way baritones are. His voice color is light, bright, has some natural capabilities of benign agile (except that his runs are almost always messy or off key). The same thing goes to Shawn. Both of them are technically underdeveloped tenors
@@thehainote1082 vocal range classification is not about how light your voice is, it's about how high it goes. Bieber's voice is light, but not high enough to be a tenor.
Mike, TheAnimated okay, so is his voice low enough to be a baritone? Absolutely not. Mariah Carey’s range is F2-Bb7. Does that mean she’s a baritone AND a tenor AND a contralto AND a mezzo soprano AND a soprano? Absolutely not. Vocal range does not determine a person’s voice type, tessitura and passagio do. His comfortable range is completely at the tenor range. His vocal range is not high, simply because his technique is underdeveloped and his range is not large. Same thing goes to Shawn Mendes. They are just tenors with undeveloped vocal technique and narrow range.
@@MiketheNerdRanger Wrong. Yes range plays a role but more importantly timbre and tessitura play a role. Shawn Mendes has zero weightt to his voice above G3. Same for Bieber. As the above comment says, Mariah Carey who arguably in her prime had one of the best vocal techniques in mainstream music, has a vocal range of Eb2-B7 (studio/live). She was a coloratura soprano (more of an alto now due to nodules) despite being able to vocally support down to D3 and hit F2s easily. Fuck, I can sing F7s, doesn't make me a soprano. I can sing E2s, doesn't make me a bass or baritone. My voice sounds quite bright so I am classed as a tenor. At the end of the day, vocal classification is majority of the time unhelpful and pointless. Voices are so random and ranges come in so many different sizes. It would be ridiculous to just classify a voice by what notes they can hit. Speak to any vocal coach, any classical trained vocalist and they will say the same.
I've always been frustrated being a baritone. My singing range would be from F2 to A4, up to Bb4 at my very best, comfort is up to G#4. Everyone else I know who sing well easily reach B4 and beyond, so I feel pathetic. Haha. But thanks to videos like this and many inspiring baritones I'm now much more accepting of my vocal classification. We just have to make the most of what we got.
@@playagamelp6594 I'd say it's not really impressive range. I also sometimes struggle at E4 before I knew about technique and all that, and on a bad day.
@@touchitbaeproductions2066 then good for you. Vocal classifications does not limit how high or low you can go, just categorizes you on which range you are most comfortable at. It does not say that baritones can never belt higher than tenors. It does not say sopranos cannot hit lower notes than many lower voice types. Mariah, a soprano, can go lower than some mezzos and altos and tenors and baritones. Bass Tim Foust can go as high as Bb4 which is high for basses and even for some baritones and is considerably an upper belt already for tenors.
I’d like to thank you for making this video I’m a young singer in choir and I was looking for a song to do for a solo project all the songs I found were to high for me but with your video I found new people and songs to sing and inspire me so thank you so much
I got a weird compliment today at work, a costumer told me I had a really strong baritone voice and asked if I sang, and I told him that I can’t and he said people who say they can’t sing have never tried, I honestly want too try now. Because I love music I just can’t sing 😂
i can sing in the 7th octave and im stilll a baritone....i cant get passed A4 and i dont know how to use mix for the upper register....but ive a developed head voice and falsetto that enables me to hit higher motes....similar to charlie puth
When people are sad about them being baritones it gives me a serious cringe... Dude... Chris Cornell, Brent Smith, Frank Sinatra and a lot more... Come on. It takes a serious vocal training but it's doable...
The video showed Justin Bieber. Bieber isnt a baritone. If you're gunna talk music,know what you're talking about. The same goes for Shawn Mendes. Theres a difference between being bad and trying to designate their range as singers.
The understimating is obvious: weak voice and inexpressive. It is more easy to see in gospel/4 harmony part quartets.... You can't hear baritone voice. Only lead, Bass and tenor.
This video was much needed. Thank you for this. I’ve always struggled with my voice type. I was forced to sing bass in high school because of not enough guys and that gave me the opportunity to extend my range. I ended up switching to tenor my senior year and I’ve realized I’m a baritenor. Baritones are under appreciated and this video showcases why they should be appreciated more! You gave great examples of many singers. Ex: Michael Bublé is truly magnificent. His voice is like butter. 😍 Scott’s runs though. Ugh. So good! & the true tea is Xtina’s baritone qualities, lmao but honestly her falsetto/head voice speaks for itself as to how she’s a soprano. One thing I’ve noticed with baritones is that their falsettos are usually more powerful than tenors! Anyways, this video made me proud to be a baritone and I know I’m in good company! :)
Thank you so much for this appreciation video of baritone singers! In an age where everyone glorifies male singers' belty high notes, baritones' rich, sweet, and adaptable middling voices surely make the listening experience more refreshing for contemporary listeners. My personal faves are Michael Buble, Josh Tillman (Father John Misty), Chris Cornell, John Legend, and of course the man Frank Sinatra. On a side note, I was wondering if you're interested in checking out the rock music scene a little since there are quite a number of vocalists (both male and female) who can seriously SANG. 😁😍
God, I'm so glad that Alejandro Manzano wa sincluded in this, because he is an absolute beast. His delivery can be too cheesy at times, but boy does he have a great voice. Also, since he's been uploading videos for over a decade, you can really see the improvement. From lightly straining on a D4 in "Wherever you will go" to his recent cover of "Never Enough", where he belts G#4s like they're NOTHING.
Thank you Mr.Skinny for this very clearly presented video! As a voice coach for over 25 years, I've been explaining and coaching Baritones, about mixing their registers, and why this is sooo important. For all singers actually. Your video is excellent intro into the science, training and art of real singing, which I am so passionate about. When students take the time to really train their voices, and not expect overnight results, they realize what they can do, it's so wonderful. Your video makes vocal principles (mix, head/chest, dark and light sounds, etc, fach) from vocal function and Bel Canto fundamentals, very clear....
If you’re a vocal coach for over 25 yrs, you should know some of his/her info is off. Such as classifying Scott Hoying & John Park as baritones when they’re Lyric Tenors for 1.
I personally have always liked being a baritone (specifically saying, dark and warm one). So much versatility comes with this voice type. My range is about from E2 to F2 but can reach very breathy A4 (not falsetto tho). I’m currently developing effortless tone within those two octaves and hope that one day I will be able to show off those vocals like Bubble or Park or even Legend himself^^ Have a nice day fellow baritones♥️
learnt a lot! thanks so much! you should do more videos on mens vocals as well! It’s easier to understand compared to the women’s videos since mens range is more relatable!
As a Verdi/Dramatic Baritone, I absolutely adore my voice. It's Dark, Rich, Thick, Heavy and I get belt for days. As my voice doesn't harbor much agility at all, the music most appropriate for it is Traditional Pop/Jazz/Classical Music. My supported range spans G2 - Bb4.
I am happy to be a baritone, this video inspires me to learn more, so I can get the lowest and highest notes of baritone, and vocal technique, thank you 😊
Thank you so so much for this video!!! I am myself a baritone (range at my best goes to B1-G#4 & my falsetto are consistently up to E5 but I can go higher on a good day) and I feel like some baritones are pushing too high to sound like tenors to "fit" in the music industry. I think that some natural baritones should respect their limits and their tessitura because they might break their vocal cords If they are always pushing too high, without a good technique. Personnaly, I know my support range/comfort range is F2-Eb4 and I’m making efforts to support up to F4/F#4 because I know I’m capable to and I know I can go higher, like Bb4 or something. I know my strength is my lower register, which is extremely developped and I can go as low as I want, so, I’m always putting some low notes on my covers. However, some male singers are so pushed by the industry that they forgot their comfort zone and they always pushing too high, it is sad actually. :/
Our ranges are quite similar then. I wonder if you have any advices on how to build and expand your connected/supported range because I find my voice to be plagued with multiple problems even in the lower 4th octave. My lower range is quite solid but I know that I must try to develop all parts of my voice if I want to be taken seriously as a singer. :P
Walter Velvet Gregson Hi! :) Sorry for the delay to answering you! What really helped me to improve my voice (which is still not perfect at all), is to find your voice. Find your tone, find what is your range and don’t try to push it too hard when you can’t yet. I watched a lot of videos to learn how to improve my head voice and how to mixing properly and they really helped me. 2 years ago, I couldn’t even barely hit a F4 without screaming it because of how "chesty" I was and now, my voice has matured and I can hit it pretty effortlessly. Not supported yet tho hahaha! But to use a connected head voice, practicing a lot to get to know your voice and try to look where your voice is straining and when it’s not will definitely help you to improve your voice! :) Before, my supported range was like A2-B3/C4 and now it’s like F2-Eb4 and I supported some E4 at good moments! When I had this tiny supported range, It’s because I had the tendancy to lower my larynx when I was going down and, as soon as I was belting a bit more higher, I raised my larynx and the sound came from my throat and not from my diaphragm.
What I've learned from reading the comments: different people have different opinions about what makes a baritone. It's interesting. Thanks for the vid, and also for the interesting comments and discussions!
Thank U for making this video. Baritones definitely deserve more recognition. Btw is it just me or do baritones in pop seem to have better musicianship than tenors? I mean some tenors tend to show off range and overuse high notes (to charm ppl with untrained ears maybe? 😂) while baritones focus more on vocal quality and message delivery, which is much more important in music.
I think the point is that people are expecting some extent of "excitement" or "wildness" in popular music. You know, people feel excited when they hear male/female singers sing notes that are high and extraordinary. I noticed that a lot of the songs sung by female artists have prominent, high notes (regardless of the natural tone or range of the artists). And I think the same goes for male singers too. A lot of people, record companies and critics jump to the conclusion that printing out songs, which hardly include impressive high notes, are not so profitable and appealing to the mass audience. This kinda makes me upset from time to time as I'm mostly identified as a contralto and to think that it will be difficult to adapt to this demanding market. Really, it goes to the point I feel like I need to intentionally alter my voice 😫
Thank you for this video. I've always thought that baritones are only destined to do harmonies. Someone even said that I'm the type who could do not solo performances. As a young baritone, I would often resort to singing in falsetto, because that was the only way I could sing a high song. Over the years, my voice somehow developed and I'm able to tap some high notes ( I mean, not the tenor high, but higher than what I would previously reach). I didn't know John Legend, Michael Buble and Alejandro Manzano are classified as baritones. But, I'm glad to know that they are.
*Sorry, but this video lost me from the beginning;* I don't know much about *Charlie but Justin Bieber & Shawn Mendes are definitely not Baritones* 😂 There's a difference between Baritones and Tenors with faulty technique... I love that you showcased some great Baritones though eg. Scott, John Legend, Michael Buble etc. And the *LEGENDARY FRANK SINATRA* ✨
@@arianacareymariahgrande3582 It seems like that's what he's trying to say, but Justin, Charlie & Shawn lack the most important quality that defines *Baritones.*
This is SOOO relatable!!! When I sing Jojo's, Ariana's, Kim Petra's song an octave lower, my voice just doesn't fit. Some notes don't sound that powerful or light, as they sound in the original. And another problem is that I don't like the style of pop-baritones. I don't wanna sing a sexy-jazz-declaration-of-love, I want high notes, whistle notes, some difficult elements and technique! If you know baritone-singers (including cover-singers) which sing in that style, please, let me know. I'm so exhausted of searching!
Low notes are the best ones dude. People are so used to hear high notes, but when they hear a very low note ... It is very shocking and even hypnotizing
You don’t have to sing in the same keys as the original…. Just take the key down till the highest note is comfortable….It may only be a few steps down. The intervals are still the same.
Hi! Do you now if I'm a bass or baritone? I can sing down to D#2/D2. When I sing up, my voice sounds like head voice from about E4. Also, I find it easier to sing below the 4th octave(Middle C is somewhat O.K.-ish). Finally, I'm 13 years old.
@@nomercy1350 I think you may be a baritone, but need some training in the low part, but if you could upload a video singing the notes of your range it may help to.
I was a tenor 1 year ago(17) and my vocal range was G#2-E5. Somehow, I suddenly became a baritone. Now my vocal range is C2-C#5 and my low notes are most powerful and voluminous. I am genetically lucky because all of my uncles are Bass-Baritone. I hope I can hit The High C note.
Can you do a video about Ledisi¿? She is classically trained and her mentor is the Rachelle Ferelle. She has a great mix, agility, headvoice, and good lows. She also has great dynamics and a wide range.
Famouse Baritones: Eddie Vedder, Scott Weyland, Coldplay, Axl Rose, Sinatra, Robbie Williams, Vile Vallo, Crish Cornell, Héroes del Silencio, Axl Rose, RHCP, RATM, Ricky Martín
"Coldplay" It's Chris Martin dude lmao. There's also some you didn't mention: Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons Dan Smith from Bastille Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys Lewis Capaldi
i was afraid not to see seth ma far lane on your list when clicking. so fucking glad you put him, he deserves more recognition for his singing abilities
Used to beat myself up for not being a tenor. As I got older, I learned to value honing the quality, tone and power of my voice. A tip for frustrated baritones who are singing tenor songs: Change the key of the song. You learn to really love your authentic voice once you sing in a comfortable range.
My range is C2 - F4(sometimes F#4) - D6 My mix is really chesty i can support F2 - C#4 consistently but i really want to go up there with those easy E4s
I also sang in baritone.. I cannot find myself on other genre because some of the notes are hard to hit.. but thank you for sharing this video.. with the help of my mentor I know what type of tone I am.
