First of all: I find it unacceptable to talk about people's physical appearance on the internet, even and especially because they're strangers. Two: I completely forgot about the word "glancer," and reading it made me bust out laughing
@@Valoric yeah dude, it's insane,he keeps saying he stopped but he didn't,he's just drinking liquid death instead,replacing the caffeine he likes so much with even more sugary trash,which some people are saying it's worse. But nah, he doesn't,that's just him having conjunctivitis you can even see the balm he has on hand to pass on his eyes,in the video.
@@Valoricas much as i want to joke and gaslight you. no 😭 it’s just whenever he blows his nose the chat pretends he’s doing coke. it’s a joke from like 3 years ago
@@Valoric I think he has, maybe not an addiction but he does do coke… it’s telling in some of the streams (IMO, I don’t know him of course) but as someone who has … seen ppl do coke, let’s say… I do see a lot of the signs in this body moments and mannerisms… like he robs his leg with his hands a lot for example… again just IMO
I can't work physically demanding jobs anymore but I found it "easier" because I would forget it even existed at 5:01PM The most draining thing about my current position is finding myself problem-solving in bed, in the shower or driving on the weekened. Every minute spent playing games or meeting with friends could be used to catch up on work and it feels horrible
I think that streamers likely have a lot of difficulties and stressors that fly over the heads of most people. They feel stress and anxiety just like everyone else. However, just like no one wants to hear a billionaire talk about their problems, people dont want to hear multi-million dollar streamers compare their difficulties with that of normal people's problems. It's not very comparable in most people's eyes. He's totally in the right to feel the way he does, but he shouldn't expect people to sympathize with him.
I think the actual issue is that the ones that arent making millionaire money and are making just enough to do full time i think tend to get thrown into the same group. People need to realize there is an insane discrepancy.
Hasan specifically is full of crap though. He bought a $200k Porsche and said it was for his followers, even his friends who went with him to the dealership laughed at him and was like "are you serious"? Dude is a hypocrite of the highest order. His wardrobe is like a million dollars and he says it's "ironic". I normally don't care what someone does with their own money but Hasan pretends to be a socialist whilst living a top 0.1% lifestyle and asking his broke viewers to fund it.
No one was mad he was complaining, it was the fact that he specifically said streaming is more socially draining than real jobs. You cant compare the privilege of choosing to stream long hours to being forced to interact with people all day for a living.
The issue is. 100% of what a streamer complains about is something that every other freaking job experiences aswell. Except they can't just take a break whenever. They can't just work 2 hours and go "actually im going home". People have to work 8 hours a day whether they like it or not with the exception of sick leave. When you're feeling down in a standard job you have to suck it up. The freedom a streamer has over any other job is what makes it easier.
I think I realized one of the reasons I find Atrioc so great to watch for myself. Him explaining his eye and what he was doing to help it reminded me of some good old Jake and Amir from collegehumor hahaha
What I would say it’s that it’s WAY overpaid… is not that if it’s easier / harder than a real job… it’s that the effort vs rewards for streamers it’s WAY better than for retail for example, salary wise
@@guppy719 true I also thought about this but it’s Hassan and Atrioc talking so I look at the big guys… I understand that 90% of streamers do get burnt out and bearly make money
@@guppy719 true therefore the average streamers who dont make the big bucks have the right and "in touch" way to say that they probably have a hard job. Larping socialists like hasan who are clearly trying to appeal to his audience like he's part of the working class while also living the most capitalist private jet to coachella lifestyle dont deserve to say that "streaming sucks the soul out of you more than a real job"
From 2019-2021 Atrioc was only making like 70k a year from streaming. That's not actually that much for being successful in a career that could crumble if you don't maintain or grow your popularity.
This seems to just apply to entrepreneurs in general. If you have a business, you are never "done", you will always be thinking about it, always wanting to do the next step
I don't think streaming is easy cause entertainment at any point is difficult but where the challenge is changes for every job/situation. Not being able to "clock out" is what every manager on salary complains about their life too. They make far less than a lot of these streamers and if someone gets hurt by something or the company does poorly under their responsibility it's their head on the chopping block. See Ludwig talking about his company at any point. Streamers generally only have to consider their self health, which is important but most managers I know would say "if only" to that situation. The difference is a manager can often still come in to a large company that can't fail and not care about anything and do the job poorly and still get promoted. Streamers lose their livelihood overnight if they don't stay on top of the community's interests. That's the fear factor that keeps it predatory in a sense. It's your own self management skills not being able to keep up with the demand that keeps streaming from feeling easy and as long as the space is competitive it'll probably always feel that way. If you want to feel a real work strain that doesn't get talked about as much go work on a food assembly line in a warehouse. Temperatures are right around freezing, you can stand at an assembly line for more than 12 hours at a time. There's no such thing as shorting on food production so you can expect to stay late every day for an unspecified amount of hours. One mistake or instance of bad luck can cost you your job and potentially a customers life. And you run the risk of being called in to bail out production issues in which turning them down can also result in the loss of your job. You'll quickly notice that most of the people in these facilities are poor, minority, and often partially disabled individuals who really don't have a back up if this job goes south. And that's why there are things called ethics audits, which only state the obvious and don't enforce anything so it all just continues.
Idk man, I used to work 14 hour days, outside physical labor (with a bit of welding but not as an actual trade worker), was home about 12 weeks of the year staying at a new hotel almost every night, worked in 110 degree Arizona weather and -25 Montana weather, all for $20/hr while living out of Seattle. I can comprehend the draining feeling that would come from streaming, I can argue FOR that, but I could not argue that it’s hard. You can argue that you could just find another job, and I’d agree as that’s what I did after getting burnt out, but there’s plenty of jobs like that that have to be done by somebody.
8:12 For Marketing monday, You could possibly each week get a community member to discuss marketing news from a random country in there own style, Thus giving reaction, humor but also cool tid bits that only those in the know would know, you know?
I'm in customer service and he's 100% right. People are definitely responding in bad faith by acting like what he was saying was specifically only about streaming when the example he said was a sales job.
sitting and talking to people who want to watch is is not the same as a sales job where you are trying to convince someone who most likely already hates you for just being a sales person. I do think being entertaining is a lot harder then people think though and it is tough in its own way but the hours and pay you get in return when you manage to claw your way to success makes it a much better job then most others.
Your point is generally right, but you forgot that Hasan is doing similar thing to what the sales job do. He is trying to convey things to people who hates him
"There is no part of your day where you're done" what's missing there is that you can just not do that. The thing about streaming is that you control how much effort you put in, and being busy is a mark of sucess. Yeah you're busy, and it's draining, but you made it already, you're just maintaining a lifestyle. Streamers like Hasan don't have to stream 9+ hours a day, they choose to because it's profitable, but they can also take an extended break anytime they want and nobody will care. And also, it has to be said, if anyone is gonna be the champion of the streamer proletariat it can't be Hasan. He streams 9 hours, but the content in those 9 hours is, in my opinion, the most asleep at the wheel work possible. Even Atrioc, who pads stream time with Mr. House, puts more effort in a single marketing monday than Hasan does all week.
On the other side, taking a break in content creation can be very damaging to the channel earnings, traffic, etc, while in a regular job you can just take a PTO or vacation without any real repercussion. So there's always this feeling of having to do bigger, better content so you don't "fall off" for content creation. Also I feel they are short-lived compared to regular jobs
@@vandalm9311 I have a month plus of accumulated PTO. If I take a day or two off without planning or justifying it to my supervisor, I get fired. If Hasan takes a day or two off, nothing happens. If he takes a week off, nothing happens. If he takes a month off, some prime subs may not get renewed, and then on the comeback stream he gets it all back and then some. You can't fall off from streaming less, your core audience will wait. You can look at the stats on any streamer who took a break or reduced their hours, the growth slows down a little bit but only temporarily. And it's not like Hasan's efforts are paying off, he streams more than most and his growth has been flat for over a year. His streams are long because it pays more, and he doesn't take breaks because it doesn't pay anything. He'd still be in the 1% on 40 hour weeks, or even 20 hour weeks, he'd have his millions, he's just greedy and willing to take the extra stress, which is fine, so long as he doesn't bitch about it.
Ofcourse you can do nothing outside of going live. But then your audience decreases, your income decreases and you have to go find a real job again. Because if you dont do anything to grow, your competition is doing it
He’s saying it’s a constant stressor for streamers, and on hasan’s case he does do long streams with lots of interaction which would be socially exhausting, even though he could just not do some of that (like picking out people in chat to yell at). It certainly is something that allows breaks and stuff, and a lot of the pain of it is self-inflicted, but streamers create their own unhealthy environment that would be exhausting to them, since being a streamer doesn’t actually mean you are a competent person.
3:00, a butcher for 12 years, 80 hour weeks. I have trouble sympathizing with any of this, there was never a second of downtime, there was no "celebrating" or end. it was just endless streams of meat that never stopped, even during covid. streamers complaining look insanely ungrateful even though i understand how you could feel mentally exhausted, people work sun up to sun down with both mind and body and get nothing, you all got yours, you dont starve in 3 days if you stop. quit if you dont like it, i did and I didnt have a million dollar safety net. working full time since i was 13 ( i dont want this for anyone). Work has nothing to do with income and till i get paid 6 figures to stream my hobbies, or get compensated appropriately, I dont see what there is to complain about. You got more and do less than anyone else i know.
lol sound the same as a workfrom home tech job whenever im doing something other then learning new langs or services i have literal guilt the only way i can hang out with my friends withought have a panic attack is if i'm reading kubernetes docs at the same time. management constantly talks about work life balance but then just piles more stuff on top feels like if i dont keep learning imma get booted i already cover 4 job titles
I've done a bit of both, but content is nothing like tech support, or sales, or serving tables. All of those are socially draining, but there is a huge level of stress that the person you're dealing with could just decide to be difficult and fuck up your job. Content gives you at least a little bubble in your home, not to mention you can always take a break if you need it.
Its socially draining just like some other jobs are. And theres little work/life separation just like some other jobs are (especially self employed). The combination of those 2 is rare and its difficult to be always working and have that work be socially draining. At the same time there are a lot of other jobs that have their own particular difficulties that streaming doesnt have (commute, manual labor, etc). Its difficult, but its not unique. Plus the income inequality of the entertainment business means that the top streamers are absolutely overpaid for how much work they do, and nobody wants to hear the rich complain.
Atrioc describing react content at the end. Something really polished and you get a live react + chat. It depends on the reactor as well, if I wanna just mostly watch something and laugh at chat then xQc is great. If I actually want to hear discussion on the thing then Asmongold is the GOAT.
as a WFH independent contractor whose new clientele relies almost entirely on social media outreach, that part of the video hit home. I can be watching a movie and there’s a voice in my head going “…you’re in your bedroom, just make a tiktok!”
Barber thing is a cap, she even says that her back was a wreck after working, 3 years more of pushing herself like that and her back would fail by the time she hits 40. Same with a lot of jobs, waiters, kitchen, any kind of mine, factory, agriculture, etc... Then big A compares it to the most white collar job? I usually respect atrioc but that might be the dumbest way to see this situation, streaming is harder cause in my white collar job I had tons of free time, like most jobs would have that lol.
Yikes, Big A says he watched the “movies that got Nic Cage famous” but didn’t even include Gone In 60 Seconds in his list… Pretty Crinkey Cronge, if you ask me!!!
When you are passionate about your career you fall into the same "never ending" non stop work. I offer myself as an example, medicine is my passion; as a result, I consistently think about different methods by which I can help my patients.
For context, Hasan was specifically talking about how he finds it difficult to like, go to parties or basically have a night life because he streams for so long. He wasn’t trying to say streaming is difficult or get people to pity him. Just chatting with his fans about why he left a friend’s party early because he was tired
Even taking that context into account, it's garbage. His content is not prepared the same way Atrioc does for example, or tons of other streamers. He literally just hits live then "reacts" (just f*cking watch) and sometimes tells a chatter to STFU. It's no effort, he has no real meaningful interactions with what he is stea... reacting to. It's easy to stream for long when you are literally doing nothing but farming your colossal (mostly due to nepotism and luck) audience of kids while putting no effort. Oh bouh hou mwistah can't go to pwarties after that. Most people with a job or parents don't have a nightlife ever. The few who do, usually sacrifice other hobbies to do so.
@@Alarios711 again man, he didn’t want “pity”. Just like atrioc Hasan spends the first ~10-20 minutes of his stream just talking about what’s going on in his life. He doesn’t want us to feel bad for him, he’s really just thinking out loud. If he wanted to he could just change to streaming less hours. He doesn’t because he likes streaming. He’s just telling us about one of the side effects of streaming so much. Also Hasan didn’t just react. He does research in the morning by reading news sources and listening to the radio. That’s why he can do so much active recall on so many different news sources. His constantly pulling from a wide array of news sources, studies etc. while he’s streaming. That’s why he’s so popular, many people walk away from Hasan streams being genuinely informed and entertained. Yes, he doesn’t make slides like atrioc, but that’s why atrioc does that on Mondays only. That doesn’t mean however that Hasan doesn’t do research or do a good job as an informational communicator. You can critique react content but that’s not how he covers the news
@@Alarios711 also it’s kind of crazy to call Hasan a nepo baby when he has been working for 10 years making his own content, at first making videos as “The breakdown” under TYT, doing all the research and editing those on his own, then starting to stream on his own from the audience he built with the breakdown. It’s not like TYT is a media giant that gave him a lot of connections. It’s a small independent news outlet that Hasan has eclipsed at this point. And he acknowledges the help that working under the TYT banner gave to his content
@@gbpg2016 then don’t give him the free real estate lmao. There’s plenty of streamers I don’t care about and I don’t have talking points ready to bash them whenever they’re in the news. I just don’t engage with their content
