i'm conflicted. she seems like an honest enough person, and i've seen people doing way wackier shit than that online, but that part of the story does seem off.
Fact she thought it believable is embarrassing. Poor girl shoulda been happy she was cat called cuz I bet she's another lonely girl living with her cats
Holy fucking shit it was soooooo fucking hard to listen to this guy in the sunglasses. He truly doesn't understand why he believes things. Its obvious his beliefs are adopted and that he did not genuinely arrive at this conclusion through his own thoughts. He just likes how the virtue signalling makes him feel.
One thing I'm realizing with these videos is how good our students are at being verbose while saying very little. Their vocabularies are getting bigger but the arguments remain shallow.
that's because they don't really know why they so ardently believe the things they supposedly believe. They're told to believe racism is prevalent because black ppl tell them so. These black ppl don't have any statistics to support their claims.
It’s called sophistry, it’s a hallmark of the American intelligentsia. They also love to make an argument and then find research to prove their point instead of actually investigating.
He's life a sponge that learns and repeats everything he learns at gender relations. And at one point you can know his answers on questions being asked to him
Look at his behavior and body language. That’s a guy who’s living his life in constant fear. He’s been convinced that the world is threatening dangerous place.
The young man is a perfect example of what happens when you teach students what to think rather than how to think. He has all the required phrases, but he can't explain himself in a coherent way.
He, or it at this point is an example of the complete and utter pussifacation of the male existence in America. Too much soy, Adderall, helicopter parents. Marx was right, society makes man in turn man makes society repeat repeat. The left has had the reigns for at least 60 years and that thing that a strong fart will tople is the product.
This guy is so sure of his position on systemic racism but he still hasn’t come close to defining it other than his feelings about it,which is usually what this boils down to,,,feelings
Yeah, I changed my opinion. The young dude is a jerk. Not only is he your typical entitled know it all, convinced that his basic level of jargon makes him an expert. He's also convinced that he is the only one with anything worth listening to. Notice that when he's not talking, he's skipping, playing with his hair, etc. And he relentlessly pushes his own undefined (ie he can't explain anything he says) ideas and then just dismisses out of hand any attempt to challenge or quantify his statements.
@@rongt859 ANTI-WHITE "Diversity" quotas for businesses, Black only scholorships, the Vice President of the United States was chosen because of her skin color.
The fact that someone like this young man can believe so strongly in something he knows nothing about, use words he doesn't understand to support such a belief and debate that in public shows how doomed academia is.
The education system has removed critical thinking and replaced it with "passionate" thinking. Truth and reality doesn't matter. Only how much passion you have and display of it. Their using emotional "support" as a political tool. Basically political grooming.
Look at ¿his? mannerisms and overall behavioral persona analysis. The beaten pose, the painted black nails... Sad to see him brainwashed by academia. It's a shame. He has a blessed hairline and a good beard possibility. Meaning all the Soy consumption has not yet affected him fully. If he would work his body and ditch his wokeness he'd still have a chance at becoming a Chad.
When the young man didn't know what facts could possibly change his mind, Peter nailed it with "wouldn't you want to know the conditions under which your belief is false in order to justify confidence in the belief?"
Watching your videos is like watching adults trying to think for the first time in their life. Something that should've happen in primary/secondary school. You're teaching Americans think. One person at the time. Good job
You are correct. These kids can barely string together whole sentences without blurting out the approved buzz words. Add to that the guy trying so hard to sound smart. I think we're screwed for about 50 years at minimum.
He could just be bored. He is so sure of his “ideology” (the word used endlessly by the girl to mean “ideas, opinions, feelings, positions” ) that the entire discussion is below him.
@@ams914 Circular reasonings as well as circular definitions. “A woman is a woman”. Well if you identify as a woman, what are you identifying as? “A woman”. What is that? “A woman”
@Auspician we know the Bible is real because so many people actually turn to Christ they talk in tongue they found Noah's ark by the way so there lying about that if so what is the meaning for them lying
@@shawnhutchins1972 None of that would hold up in court. We know the Bible is true because of fulfilled prophesy. Nobody today can speak in a language that they've never learned or studied.
I’m impressed that both of these guests didn’t resort to emotional outbursts and tried to reason their way through the conversation in a polite way. Bear in mind, this might be the first time in their lives that they’ve ever had to apply critical thinking to a topic that has been preached to them as fact.
For the last 5-6 years after constantly hearing people talk about systemic racism, I always ask "What proof do we have?" And not once has anyone ever given me a legitimate answer.
I have a legitimate answer. Race based quotas for work and school. Racism is treating people based on there race. Although I doubt that is what those people where referring to.
^ An example of a system put in place to keep minorities down. I can think of one, that being welfare but for whatever reason leftists actually LIKE that one.
This is why it is SO important to include critical thinking in education instead of just teaching words and theories. People need to know how to listen, think, and explain, not just regurgitate.
@@amarya86 I really don't understand how this guy is in the educational system. Maybe he was just passing by and doesn't understand the word and needed a definition
I have no idea how you can feel so strongly about a thing like “systemic racism” existing and not be able to describe the characteristics or details of it.
@@Apriluser for sure. You can always tell when you peel back the first layer of the their rhetoric and theirs no foundation or fact behind it. Reminds me of the gun debate…when things get even slightly detailed, the gun control advocates usually answers with something like “well, I don’t really know anything about guns”
I don’t agree with the guy, but I could define it if I wanted to. There are many arguments to say America is racist. I could stand on either side and argue in favor. But these people have no logical reasoning. There is no debate. They repeat slogans.
@@niftygrower2745 I just don’t know how you could declare an entire country is racist based on a very small minority of its citizens being racist. Do we have what we could call a racist history or past? Sure, but so does every other country. Currently, I don’t see how anyone could declare the country is racist. If it is, those that believe it better inform all the immigrants trying to come here
@@dcoughla681 that the thing - she's making it up. and, i wish he'd have asked both of the people WHY they live in the US if it's SO "racist". so, many of these fools go on about how bad it is in the US; but they never leave. i'd also have asked them why millions of immigrants risk their lives to try and sneak into the US if it's so bad?
One of the biggest lessons I learnt in life was that admitting not knowing things (even things that you should know or are obvious) commands far more respect than going on like you do.
I just don’t understand this need to know everything, if someone confronts me on the street and asks ”what do you think of the current president of Tajikistan Emomalii Rahmon?” I would be the first one to say ”I have no idea”…
Bingo. I had to learn this the embarrassing way. I was a know-it-all in my 20s and even into my 30s. I eventually realized many of my most passionately held beliefs were built on a foundation of quicksand. The older we get, the more we know we don’t know.
Peter was a teacher of mine when I went to Portland State University. He’s a really good, honest guy. I like this video series cause he’s passionately engaging. It’s genuine. Keep up the good work, Peter.
Yeah, he actually does a great job. Having never heard of the guy, I assumed this was going to be a "woke student gets pwned" type of video, "change my view" etc. But he really didn't seem to have that agenda; it was to ask questions to get the kids to explain THEIR views, which is cool. Now in my view, that's giving them enough rope to hang themselves - but I don't think that's his intention here. It's just to have the conversation, which is really really positive to see. And he's good at doing it; drawing them out but bringing it back to a grounded place where things can be explained in a fundamental way (if they can be!). Anyway, it's cool that he was your teacher.
Have you noticed how inarticulate they are? Even non-leftists. “So like… if we like… look at the two sides of the argument… as like a dichotomy… two opposing ideas… then like… I feel that’s a conversation that can like open doors to better dialogue and like… can bring ideas to the forefront which reflects everyone’s lived experience and not just those who might like… feel their opinions are not being heard.” People didn’t talk like this in decades gone by. Charlie Manson’s girls were poets compared to these drones.
@@petelovatt8357 Exactly , what they teach sounds more like a recipe for how to become a procrastinator that's going to need goverment issued life support to survive because they can't make decissions and go with the best working ideas to create and produce something of value, instead they get stucked and only going to repeat ideological ideas that their teachers told was "the truth", what's really happens is thst they want us to welcome to an tribe of screaming parrots that are unable to evaluate things in life, and we are going to see a lot of history falsification from thoose leading this movement, it strange for someone that are curious and want knowledge that it's way harder today to find real knowledge about a lot of subjects and sciences than it was 20 years ago, it's both hide in links that don't comes up with a google search the way it showed up than and it's also way more restricted to who can read it, I can search for dpecific things I searched for back then and instead of getting something with substance I get drowned in weird shit from bloggers or what "self declared genious" celebritys have an opinion on the subject even if it's clear they just haven't got sny clue what they talking about it's only opinion they made up on the go about it, and even libraries have start to sort out and leave some good books and instead replacet it with ideological opinionated missleading writing, it's like they hate facts that tells us what really going on in a subject with what they want us to belive happens instead, for someone that wants to learn knowledge to better navigate in life it's a disaster on the horizons, they may teach you one speciallity so you can be competent at a specific job but you are not allowed to have a greater knowledge and be able to put it into a context and understand what's going on, that's what they offer for the younger generations that grows up nowadays, that together with the fact that politicians want to have the totalitarian power over everything in the society the Police, the justice system, the school system, the cultural institutions, the media, so they can bann every person that don't knee inbrott of them and oberoende everything they say, all in the seducing sentence "for the greater good" but forgett to tell that sentence was also used by the most tyrannical regimes like Nazi Germany National Socialism or Stalinistic Soviet Marxust Communist Socialist or Communist Chinas Maoist Socialism that trio who commited the three biggest genocides in human history.
@@marccovitz5289 No. “Systematically” is perfectly fine. The word was used for hundreds of years before leftists decided to make “systemic” a trendy word. They basically mean the same thing, although blue haired folk will try and make a distinction.
@@yacheritsi That right. Asking to back-up your belief is in itself a systemic (pick any bad thing). I think a lot of people mean well but are just fools.
As confused as the gentleman in the dark glasses is, there is something to this utterance. Consider the following observation from Karl Popper: "Often [Marxian economism] is...interpreted as the doctrine that all social development depends upon that of economic conditions, and especially upon the development of the physical means of production. But such a doctrine is palpably false. *There is an interaction between economic conditions and ideas, and not simply a unilateral dependence of the latter on the former.* [Emphasis added]" *The Open Society and Its Enemies* Routledge Classics Edition. Oxford, UK: Routledge. 2011. First Published by Routledge and Kegan Paul 1945. Vol II The High Tide of Prophecy Ch 15 "Economic Historicism."
I am Mexican,my parents were born in Mexico.When they got their citizenship we moved to 3 different states in my life as a kid.Some neighborhoods were a Latin mix ,some African Americans with latins ,and also white Americans.With that being said the racism I experienced was from my own Latin community and I also saw a lot of racism between the African Americans and Latins.The reality is racism is in every culture.
I'm white and when I grew up I literally never heard any racist thing uttered about any minority. When I had more encounters with particularly black people I was told so often that I hated them. It was baffling for me. I was literally so freaking confused. They would tell me I knew things I'd never even heard. And then in my mostly black high school high school the black kids were absolutely vile towards the white kids. I was badly bullied for being white. I still didn't hate black people because hating a race is incredibly stupid. The Latinos never bothered anybody. Oh, and these black kids lived in nicer houses than mine. Had their lives really been that bad that they had to hate people?
I have to give them credit for even being willing to engage, not call names, not getting emotional, and recognizing that their personal experiences aren't evidence.
This is the prob with social media, and when you have a whole generation forming their beliefs based off of little 15 second woke shorts on youtube they watch all day. Then cannot explain their claim
_"Are you stealing?” “No, why do you ask?” “Because you’re black."_ _"There was a catcalling incident....I was being catcalled."_ *I'll take events that never happened for $100, Alex*
100 if they are scared of thrm.. they will follow they won't confront like that. And from experience these stores they have reasons for their assumptions. It didn't come from no where.
@@npcimknot958 And if you ask 100 people if they are shoplifting 100 of them will answer no. who would ever ask something like that? or straight out say we profile you because you are black? They may think it, but saying it is highly doubtful. And who catcalls a land whale?
@@npcimknot958 its funny you said that because when i was 16, this white girl i was dating would ask me to just walk to the store after her, and as soon as i step in the security would follow me and she used to clear the store like its nothing. i think this lady exaggerate but the fact of the matter is it does happen.
@@animalworld5296 I got followed and watched when I was a teenager. I'm mixed, but definitely passing. It was because of how I dressed, carried myself, age, etc. It had nothing to do with my race. To automatically jump to that conclusion without noting anything else is dishonest and says more about your mind then the people you're accusing.
This is why conversations are important. The younger man and woman have parroted an idea but can’t explain the idea that they went along with so they wouldn’t make waves. If you can’t defend your beliefs, you probably shouldn’t “strongly agree” with your beliefs.
I love how these "systemic racism" believers, never want to put concrete definitions on these things... because then it can be analyzed, and once analyzed, it evaporates into nothingness. They're so intellectually dishonest.
So me getting arrested 5 times in my life on drug/alcohol charges and not even spending a second in jail while a black teenager can get 15 years for an 8th of weed, isn’t part of a flawed system? The war on drugs was perfectly balanced in who it arrested?? Cmon…
To give the guy a break, I think what the student was looking for here is something like the incarceration rate, which disfavours black people particularly. i.e. 1 in 106 white men are incarcerated, while it's 1 in 15 of black men. Another example: The median net worth of black families is less than 15% of white families. When people say 'systemic' I believe this is what they are talking about. A system which consistenly (dis)favours certain certain racial groups. Now, imo it would be better to move past sayings like 'america is racist' and simply work on ways to make life better for everyone, regardless of race, i.e. focusing on wealth disparity broadly speaking.
The fact that he quoted Monty Python “come and see the violence inherent in the system” and didn’t connect this to classism and not race is so interesting to me. It’s always been about class
I love how this isn't about gotcha-isms - this is about penetrating their opinions with questions, and asking people to think about what they think. It's a fascinating watch!
Unfortunately, asking penetrating questions to people who don’t question their own opinions can seem like “gotchas” to them. Peter is definitely wrapping his questions in a certain “playing stupid and innocent” coating.
@@randomactsofriding4850 7:09 Absolute critical thinking fail. 😂 So many, but that one is beautiful. *Edit* Ohh, 12:08 is even better. This guy cannot stay on point. Great hair though, I am legitimately impressed.
This is kinda how I used to talk and think about politics when I was, oh I don’t know, 14/15/16… but now that I am 21 seeing people my age and older STILL having conversations at this intellectual level is so embarrassing and I honestly just feel bad for the future of this country and the future of my family. :(
The USA had ‘white only’ until the 1960’s. America is the most racist nation on earth. By miles. The corrupt police. Mass and school shootings. The American culture is diseased. The ones that realize this the least is Americans. 🤦🏼♂️
@itp5x5 so your position is that because these two people couldn't prove systemic racism, it means that systemic racism doesn't exist? how silly is that? You use of police killings statistics shows me that you have no idea how statistics works, and I would assume that you've never taken a statistics course in your life.
@@Kevinschart Bro do you know what systemic means? If this was actually systemic it would have been as obvious as china's oppression on their people, and theres no way we would get away with that. There is nothing about our system that targets ONE race and gives the rest an advantage. Does racism exist? Yes, its prevalent. In no way is it systemic.
@@Kevinschart so then are you able to explain your stance by answering his questions? I would genuinely appreciate understanding the basis for your belief on America being systemically racist.
I’m a black guy and the people in stores do follow me around but there’s a 0% chance that if I asked them why they were following me that they would openly admit it’s because I’m black.
Her story could be true. The issue is if all you have are your own anecdotes to support such a bold claim of systematic racism. What she said could be 100% true and proof of nothing on a systemic level if it can't be buttressed with facts.
When I was a 12 year-old white kid in a Woolworth’s in downtown Minneapolis in 1973 thinking about stuffing a $7.99 football into the $2.99 football’s box, but ultimately putting them both back in their proper boxes, the enormous black security guard at the door looked down on me as I walked out. He said, “You’re lucky kid”. Maybe he was racist- but he was right.
Even though it's wrong, there could be a personal reason for someone to act like some kind of racist person. I run my own business and have had some trouble with employees of a certain background, that fact makes me think twice if someone of that background applies for a job. Is that racist? It might be.. If i feel after the interview it could go the same way with that person as the people who where there before that person... Do I just have to go against my own experiences so people think of me as a good person? There is a business to run.. not a charity..
Don’t forget hiring quotas, catch and release policies, funding for special interest groups, showing faces of criminals on media, general media applause and bias
You are correct this does occur but as they say you can't be racist against white people. Seriously, everyone has the potential to be racist. My personal belief is America is not separated by race so much as it is by being poor or rich. I know many rich black people that if they were to be pulled over by the cops they wouldn't get in trouble but yet a poor white person would. You could claim that sports are racist as many blacks make better athletes due to their natural physical makeup. There have been studies regarding blacks and their muscle fibers vs. whites. We are all human and all have advantages and disadvantages to others due to our genes given to us by God. I served in the military and traveled the world. I can assure you racism exists around the world. You will never stamp it out. The one thing we can do as humans is to start learning to love one another and start looking at the character of the person before you look at the skin/outward appearance. This is very hard to do and overcome because your visual is always your first impression of someone.
There seems to be a direct correlation with people who think like this and physical body type. Big strong, confident men, seem to never think like this.
That kid really WANTS to know what he's talking about. He probably thought he totally had it all figured out until someone finally tries to get him to explain himself. This is why it's important to take a look at different sides of an issue rather than simply parroting the same buzz words and talking points you've heard over and over.
As a software dev I learned early on when struggling with a problem, if I try explaining an issue to someone else who knows nothing about it you look at it differently, which can really help you understand it better. These kids need to apply something similar, if you can't explain it you don't understand it.
Absolutely - I went through the university and I left feeling confident about a bunch of conclusions. What you don't get is how the logic follows, you just get bad conclusions based on faulty premises based on non-emperical research methods like "auto ethnography" which is basically a diary entry which is treated like serious research.
The male student wanted Peter to change the claim from “America” to “Americans” as if that would clarify his vague assertions. If anything, it would have made it worse. “America” is more broad-based, which is better for his word salad definitions of “systemic”. “Americans” is more specific, and he’d have to explain how all races that exist under the “Americans” umbrella, including black, hispanic, asian, etc. are all racist under his assertion. He’d likely have to insist that Peter change the board again from “Americans” to “White Americans” in order to move the goalposts closer to what he really believes.
The pretentious personality this dude developed for himself as a mask for his insecurities should be addressed. Those people are the ones that grow to violence when they feel invalidated.
Hunched down shoulders, looking around wildly hands covering the softest spot of his body in a defensive Gesture, He just radiates self loathing anger and insecurity
I know what he means by “systemic” I study the left. “Systemic racism ” is actually the bad reputation of blacks ( that they did to themselves ) that causes society ( the system) ( the social system ) to treat them differently. The left doesn’t want anyone to have thoughts of blacks having a bad reputation even though they often do. Not always, but often or sometimes. The truth is most people disregard their bad reputation treating blacks the same as they do anyone else. However … some times when “some people” interact with blacks the thoughts of it surfaces and people’s discernment (knowledge based discrimination) is exercised.
People are desperate to belong, to make sense of things and to help others. Yet, so many are so distracted, so bogged down with 'content' and just problems of life, while they get told their whole lives to sit down, shut up and repeat after me. Most young people today have no idea who they actually are. That's why they scream to be listened to, to be 'validated' in their existentialist turmoil. They've spent their whole lives being told that everything is awful because the last generation wasn't as enlightened as we are today. They're told that knowledge is wisdom, and validation is worth. Is it any wonder that every time they are confronted with the smallest bit of reality, they just shut down?
This is a master class on how to deconstruct rooted beliefs. Only questions, no affirmations, try as much as possible not to put them on defensive. Even in the end, never push the real data until the discussion is over and they genuinely asked for it => aka ready to process it and not reject the information immediatly. Good job.
Student: "I strongly agree that the United States is systemically racist." Peter: "Okay, give me an example of a system in the U.S. that is racist." Student: "Uh..." This guy is a joke.
@@ex7229 Of course we have a system of jobs in the US? How else do you think Americans pay bills? Do you think it's just a random process each time you apply for a job or is there a system? Do you think that jobs have a meaningful connection to the US economy and the communities and the people within those communities? The insane things people say in the echo chamber...
I'm not sure whether it's a case of not being able to substantiate / define it, or a case of specifically wanting to avoid having a concrete definition nailed down. If there's a concrete definition for something, proving (or, disproving) its existence becomes possible. If no such concrete definition exists, you can keep equivocating until your interlocutor gives up and tries to get a sensible answer out of someone else.
He doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not really a fair video as Boghossian could've interviewed people who know the subject. Saying that, a truly woke person wouldn't engage in the interview.
@@benhardy2040 I'm not sure who you're replying to, but at the same time, I can't see anyone in this thread making an assertion even close to what you appear to be asking. Are you sure that you responded to the right thread?
It's not the kids' fault. They were brainwashed by endless repeated viewings of George Floyd with a cop kneeling on his neck over and over and over and over. Kids are impressionable.
He's parroting what his teachers have said. Someone should tell him, "You're right, there's systemic racism in the higher education system! Against WHITES and ASIANS! It's quite pervasive."
"The most liberal and tolerant societies in human history are now unified in being portrayed as the most oppressive and bigoted societies ever" -- Douglas Murray
Did anyone else facepalm the moment the lady said "I have a lot of "friends of colour"" right at the start? The irony in separating your friends in your mind due to their skin colour. The moment she said that, I knew where this was going.
That guy was so confident the system was totally racist but couldn’t think of one example to support that. Just kept saying the system and people do things within a system… That gender studies degree is really shining through with that eloquent explanation lol
@@gnubbiersh647 when exactly was the world ever equal? Despite slavery are not the people currently occupying the US better off than their brethren in Africa?
As a minority, I know that these people mean well and want to help… but they’re not doing it the right way by thinking america is racist. There are racist people, but america is the land of opportunities… most small businesses opened are by immigrants aka minorities. It’s not our skin color that gets us harmed, it’s our beliefs and culture… some part of American culture glorifies violence and committing crime, and it’s seen in music and movies etc. We must not blame america but blame the people who teach these negative culture to our young. Hopefully these people will eventually see the truth.
I'm a Black guy. I don't think they mean well at all. They have adopted this as a personality to mask whatever insecurities they have. Taking on a nebulous issue like racism that increasingly means whatever they want it to mean is a perfect way to seem like you want change. But whenever they are confronted with ideas they haven't had jammed into their brains they lash out. I'm black, you should see how they talk to me when I disagree. They show their hand everytime.
I would argue they're hurting far more than they're helping with thier smug ignorance. I'm white, but I'm a gay man, so I can't speak to thier effect on racial equality, but I can speak to what they've done for gay rights. These are the people who blindly parrot whatever trendy social justice hackery they've been programmed with without actually listening to the people they're speaking for. They are literally advocating for pedophile acceptance, not necessarily legalization per se, in these vaunted academic circles. They have literally undone decades of hard work by the LGBT community to break the awful stereotype that gays are pedophiles because instead of actually listening to us, they speak over us because they think they're helping and they believe their voice will be heard more than ours. For the first time in literal decades, LGBT acceptance has fallen because of these people.
@@aperson2943 I don't think it's entirely their fault. They've been told that they have to think and act this way in order to stay in the "safe" lane, plus call out anyone who isn't riding in that lane, so it's become more about routine than situational awareness and presence. I think the shifting definition/misuse of "racism" to fit whatever set of circumstances IS a big part of the problem. It's not doing anyone any favors.
0:23 I don't believe that girl's story for one second. Not one second. Her and her black friend went into a store and the employees followed her black friend ans asked her if she was shoplifting and when she asked why, they told her because she is black. That NEVER happened! You know why I know. Because she already said they went SEPARATE ways in the store, so she didn't see anything. And like someone else pointed out, no one asks someone if they are shoplifting. They wait until they do, and then they detain the person. This is just total made-up nonsense.
Of course it’s nonsense. I’m sure her black friend told her it. In the town where I work as a cop I hear all the time how us cops beat black kids, insult and follow them. In 27 years it hasn’t happened once that I’ve seen. People know if they lie and say they are victim they get privileges. Unfortunately young woman have weak bullshit detectors
"they told her because she is black", that's probably the biggest tell right there, an actual racist doesn't just say "hey I'm doing this because you're black!". That's just stupid, it's 2022 .
7:48 "she is describing a system". No she didn't she described two racist employees at a story, not a system. This the perfect example of anecdotal eveidence being used to describe our entire world.
This is exactly why I decided to NOT send my son to college. I gave him the $30k I had saved for his college fund so he can start his own business. I’m not having my only child destroyed with my own money. These people are saying that they often see things that I’ve NEVER SEEN in my entire life and I live in the South!!!
Literally? Jessie Lee Peterson, Larry Elder, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Tim Poole... all guys that have been around for years that do on a daily basis exactly what you claim this country needs. This country needs more people to be accountable for their own statements and actions. Stop passing the buck. Run for local office and be what this country needs
@@CTuna-uo3pq I get that and I believe those guys u listed are telling the truth but this guys approach cuts deeper. he doesn't argue or try to correct them. you wouldn't know where he stand. He genuinely wants to understand peoples argument and encourage people to provide reason for there claims. all I am trying to say is more people would change their mind with this approach than a debate.
@@mcbattles She should care. The point of communication is to move an idea from one person to another. On a topic of such importance all primary definitions should be used with actual knowledge. However, when people have an ideology built upon a sandy foundation but pontificate to others from a seat of moral authority it only reveals how ignorant they are and it undermines the very ideology they are attempting to propagate. So who cares? Anyone who loves truth and desires to discern good vs evil. Evil has no foundation and therefore masks its weakness with confusion using complex phrases, words, etc. When a person goes beyond their wheelhouse of knowledge because of pride...that is spiritual evidence that they are deceivers or are deceived.
@@JAGChristianos wtf are you talking about lol someone saying "prejudism" doesn't undermine their point. It's like a typo or technicality being used to invalidate an argument alone. It's dumb.
in the context of this conversation America would have to not be America which is just a pointless road to go down. What is the rhetorical argument there? "If America was Zambia then you would be wrong buddy!"
@@Theyungcity23 guess you missed the point too! Il let you figure it out yourself. Sit back rela and ponder on it. You will understand that statement eventually, I have hope in you :)
@@gxqx797 You've missed the point of my comment. But instead of having a conversation I'll just let you ponder what I was getting at. Sadly that means I will have to wonder what this "statement" is that you're saying I misunderstood because I was replying to a comment that was appreciating a question and that question was not a statement. I wasn't referring to any statement either in my comment but alas. If only there were some way...
@@Theyungcity23 the statement that was made essentially means when you affirm something to be true, you need to be aware of why it cannot be true. If everything were true, then nothing would be true. Maybe an easier way to conceptualise it is if everything was considered good, then nothing would be considered 'good'. We need diachotomies to be able to understand things. Thats essentially what was being highlighted there
That's the scientific way to search for what thing are and work, if it can't be questioned it can't be scientifically proven either, a thing or thought that can't be questioned is just a belife and nothing else. History repeat itself we see the modern version of Sophism and the modern version of Socrates, and once again the Sophists wants to kill logic by using false accusations, we are still at that point 2 000+ years later, I really hope every thinking human go out there and ask thoose modern sophists simple questions that make them start to think atleast for a qecond or to because now they are just parrots for someone elses agenda.
Even if her “story” was true, it would not a single bit prove a “systemic” racism but only “personal” racism, which btw is also a thing among black People towards white or Asian people. All over the world.
For real. Most of these folks crying about systemic racism have never left America to realize that America is vastly less racist than MOST of the world 😂
@@reptilian_overlord no it wouldn't. It would only be systemic / systematic, if there's a sytem in place, which means that people are encouraged to be racist by their employers, bosses etc. or even only installed in their institution if they are in fact racist. "Americans are racist" is what you mean to say, but the statement is "America is systemic racist" which means it's not about the individual person but it's an a priori racist system, even if it's not yet filled with people.
I know store security people. They never come over and ask you if you are shop lifting. They watch you until you go to leave the store without paying and escort you to their security room where they wait for the cops. Her story is hard to believe because it's the exact opposite of how stores train their security. Tbh it sounds like a teenager made up that story.
Yes, I strongly agree that the U.S. (in the modern time) is a racist country. Examples of Systemic Racism: 1: Affirmative Action, which forces companies/organizations to hire employees (qualified or not) based on the race of the applicants. 2: Ivy League Universities' policy in accepting the applicants based on race. Ex: Asian students must score 140 points higher than white students, 320 points higher than Hispanic students, and 450 points higher than black students on the SAT to even be considered in getting accepted into those top schools. Then, everyone has either positive/negative stereotypes about others (generally, stereotype is based on some truths, but not necessary the whole truth). White - Privileged, wealthy, racists, mass shooters, serial killers etc. Black - Poor, uneducated, criminals, no father in the home, big d*ck, good in sports, cannot be racist etc. Hispanic/Latinos - Illegal immigrants, members of drug cartels, hard workers, menial job workers etc. Asians - Smart, educated, suck at sports & driving, cheapskate, small d*ck etc. Native Americans - Poor, illiterate, alcoholics etc. So, based on my assumptions, U.S. is a racist country. However, having lived in 5 different countries (for more than a year) and been to over 50 different countries around the world, I also believe that every single country is racist/prejudice in one form or another.
Yes, I agree that the programs you mentioned are racist programs. You won't get a lot of people to agree with that. Because they benefit from those programs and otherwise wouldn't it's not seen as racist.
Agree.these people actually have made shit worse for us poc..the fact we can't just say American, Canadian, etc.. and literally were down to coloir.. it's thanks to them.
He's racist himself lol, he labels people who experience racism "minority" ayo...there shouldn't be minority in America right? Everyone who's citizen of USA is American. Or maybe it's me being wrong xD after all thank God I'm not from USA.
It is with all of them now. "As a white person", "As a Women", "As a minority person" Etc Etc. They have all been put in their identity based epistemological box that they are now trapped in. Textbook brainwashing, they are told strictly what they must believe and what to think based on how they were born, with clear negative consequences if they stray out of their assigned box.
I love that the "Strongly Agree" guy keeps prowling around when he's not being interviewed. He's physically manifesting his urge to interject himself into the conversation. Definitely someone who walks into a room and automatically assumes he's the smartest one there.
@@megustalations6965 Yea 100%, did you notice his little dance over the line at one point? Showing his "quirky and unpredictable" side... 🤣 The guy's a walking cliche.
Listening to this man talk is one of the most painful things I’ve ever heard of my entire life. This is every friend I’ve ever had that wanted to sound smarter than they are when arguing lol
College educated = highly educated morons. Oh, to be educated to believe the dumbest ideas presented and then to believe in your moral consistency when an even dumber idea is presented. On typing "college educated" my phone suggested "women", "and", "morons". Had to laugh, at least I've persuaded my phone.
Quite pathetic actually. My kids are prohibited from any kind of school. From the pervert teachers to the lack of actual teaching going on. What is the point. Oh yeah another way for the government to wash our money that we pay (taxes) and fighter jets cost a $1million for the people who own all the materials and hire all the the builders. And every politician is rich how when most have done nothing but be a politician.
I wouldn’t disagree with this statement, but there’s many ideological cages we reside in. For instance, if I told you that no, American is no longer racist (using the Trotskyist term) and this is directly why America is no longer a viable society. America has greatly declined since there were deliberate laws set in place by the founding fathers and the 13 colonies to prevent where America is today. You would probably label me and any other person who shares this outlook using the Trotskyist term, Racist. Who’s really indoctrinated? Those parroting ideologies supported by the current state, corporations, big media, Hollywood, etc or those parroting ideas that the country was originally founded on, and the very idea of Democracy (as described and defined by Aristotle, philia) was centered around? (Ethnocentric)
12:47 The student repeatedly alleges systemic racism, but is beleaguered when attempting to identify a system that is inherently racist. A textbook example of cognitive dissonance.
It is repeating a cultural trope and then when asked to define it, he is at a loss for words. This can only in a world where we have comfortably lost a grip on objective truth.
We're humans, humans are in the system and therefore it's systemic. This line alone is just nonsense to me and completely makes the word systemic worthless.
A textbook example of emotional programming...they have had this lie repeated to them ad nauseam in school, in media, by their peers, possibly by their family, and by others similarly programmed or by those who stand to benefit from this claim (aka race hustlers.) The emotional certainty comes first and its presence excuses the need for facts in most peoples' minds. I was completely programmed to find Fox News emotionally repugnant; to a lesser extent, I was also molded to find the Republican Party repugnant, and basically anything and everything Right Wing. I didn't really overcome this until I moved abroad and was in my early to mid 30s; the election of 2016 and the 2 years leading up to it were watershed moments for me as I simply couldn't find any evidence of Pres. Trump being anything like the ultra-racist he was claimed to be; his dramatic shift in public stature as well was baffling, going from somebody that black American culture routinely mentioned in music, looked up to, gave awards to...to worst than Hitler? The pattern of calling EVERY Republican candidate worse than Hitler was laid bare. All the nonsense started unravelling very quickly after that. But these sheltered children with their closed, know-it-all mindsets and their smug moral complacency...I wonder if they will ever have moments of clarity to recognize the depths of their own biases and the staggering extent to which they have been emotionally manipulated. I wonder if anything will ever make them understand the fact that they are essentially ideological robots, or puppets, maybe, for the Left.
@Outstanding Results Coaching Doing so would require the student to examine the validity of his beliefs and consider the likelihood (however traumatizing) that one or more of his propagandist professors might be wrong. Thank you for your response.
I love seeing someone realize for the first time that they need to know how their ideas could be torn apart to be able to truly hold the view they have. This guy got a good dose of it live here.
I live in very rural east Tennessee and I've never seen anyone act like she is saying happens in Orgeon. I'm calling total bullshit on her. No, actually, I'm calling her a liar.
I grew up a ward of the commonwealth. A white kid surrounded by blacks Asians and Hispanics. Only blatant racism I ever saw was black on white black on Hispanic and black on Asian.
This "lines of agreement" idea is genius. Because throughout the discussion, people who are close to each other in lines shows totally different opinion and make people next to them feel weird to no be group together with such extreme ideas.
I find it sad that having a discussion has to be couched in a game. They might as well have people only talking through their sock puppets to each other.
These sessions are just brilliant Peter! A master class in interview technique. I can’t get enough of them. I commend both of these young people too for their sincerity & obvious preparedness to consider what was being asked of them. It was almost possible to hear the young man’s brain fizz as he paced back and forth. And a light bulb right at the end when you posed the more important question about why the number of interactions is a critical thing to explore. It would be great to follow up with participants in a ‘what happened next’ type of series, once you’re done with this tour (& have the energy/inclination). Thank you though for doing this work.
@@drpeterboghossian Do any of your books address how others can implement your technique? I want to learn from you how I, too, can engage in similar conversations. Teach me how to Bogho!
That guy couldn’t give a straight answer if his life depended on it. Still waiting for him to come up with a _single_ example of what he claims marks the entire ‘system’
Let's give the posing guy w/sun glasses a break: kids that age can be grandiose. It's the indulging faculty members--the ones that encourage emotional reasoning--that are to blame.
Giving them a break is why we are in this pronounce, lgbtq. racist everything, nightmare. 0000.1% of the population are controlling the narrative, shaming the rest of us.
He's not a kid. He's an adult who can move the needle in society. This toxic belief system is eroding society. I'm black. None of this helps. It all hurts.
7:15 "because we are in a system, humans are systemic". That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. Everyone is dumber because of this statement. You can see the look on Peter's face when he says it. He pause's because he knows that the comment made no sense whatsoever. I am crying laughing.
Wow. I thought for sure these street epistomology excercises would become knock-down-drag-out hysteria. But, it is amazingly civil. Great work, Peter. A reason to be optimistic.
That's because he has to work hard to suppress logic to placate illogical positions. If he actually made a stand, it would degrade quickly because illogical positions cannot handle facts and need to resort to emotions(ego).
because he lets them destroy their arguments. He slightly pushes them to think. They dont argue with him. They argue with themselves(think) probably for the first time since they started their universities. He just asks questions a thinking, reasoning person would ask themselves.
@@pablomaster4225 that’s the most interesting, but also concerning, part about this experiment. You can tell these kids have never been challenged on any of their ideas or opinions. It’s so unfortunate we’re now at a place where just playing devils advocate, or thinking critically about the established narrative, can get you in trouble or fired. These ideas have to be perpetuated through fear and intimidation, because the activists know, whether it’s conscious or not, that the entire narrative is a house of cards.
The guy walking up and down his line, lost all of them, as he spoke. I could see them escaping as he used his dark glasses to keep them in. Each time he opened his mouth, they flew out. He hasn't a clue. Please someone help him.
I love how these college kids always talk about “stolen land” & “systemic racism” etc. yet they participate in ALL of the things they “want to change”. I don’t see either of these white people rushing to the registrars office to give up their spot in school for a minority to attend, or giving up their scholarship for a underprivileged kid to utilize it. I don’t see them giving up their homes (likely owned by their parents) to return it to a Native American or whoever they believe it was stolen from. In 10-15 years you won’t see them giving up their salary to someone who makes less money. They aren’t willing to give up their private medical insurance so that someone else can utilize it, or trade in their vehicle for a razor scooter to help with “global warming”… It’s odd that they are always eager to preach to the rest of us about how horrible we are because we’re privileged while they walk a moral high ground because they recognize their privilege & “fight the system”. It would be funny if it wasn’t so concerning. These people are just so, sooo clueless.
That girl has never given up a cheeseburger in her life, that's for sure. That's hell of a lot of eating for one so young. Serious issues of self-worth there that need addressing.
dont give these people too much shit, they had the courage to play his game which helps expose the lack of reasoning behind many people’s opinions. respect to them
Good point. It is painfully obvious that these kids' ideas have never been challenged before. They are almost dumbfounded by the most basic points Peter makes. So good on these young people from doing this exercise.
