My mother had the same complaints and reported them to her doctor who brushed her off. She discontinued use when the pain and weakness made it dangerous for her to walk and saw an immediate improvement. They called me and threatened to knock her off disability (shortly after a major stroke) for “non-compliance”. We got it all straightened out after multiple discussions - none of which included my mother, the actual patient! Now imagine if I didn’t have a good relationship with her and hadn’t known what was going on. What if she was a patient without any family?
Heart patient here. I had huge arguments with doctors over Statins. Aside from the constant pain they made my legs weak and so they'd collapse under me with no warning. The doctors couldn't understand that collapsing while crossing the road is a more serious risk than a possible future heart attack. As far as they were concerned Statins are a wonder drug and I was a heretic for speaking against them.
THE MEDICAL PROFESSION IS JUST LAME. DRUG COMPANIES ARE CORRUPT BUT DOCTORS GO ALONG ON FOR A RIDE ON THE MONEY CHAIN. AND NOW NBC IS GOING ALONG FOR THE RIDE. EVERY PHYSICIAN SHOULD RECOMMEND Co-Q10 WITH STATINS. AND DOES THIS VIDEO MENTION IT? no no no no no no no
I found out 3 years ago that morphine does not work on me. All these years I told my doctors that the pain medication they prescribed wasn't working and they would just laugh at me and say it was in my head that I thought the medication wasn't working. I don't see doctors anymore.
What was crazy is that it took me at least a week in severe pain before I connected the pain to the meds. They warned me of the possible side effects before taking the meds.
I am a retired physician. I was on statins for high cholesterol, and everything hurt. Then I was diagnosed with cancer, so I decided I wasn’t going to need to prevent heart disease, so I quit my statin. Also, I love grapefruit, which you can’t have if you are on a statin drug. I feel better. So far my cancer treatment is going well. I told my doctor that I would rather die suddenly from a heart attack than a slow lingering death from cancer.
Physician Assistant of 37 years here. I have felt that the statins were garbage for a long time. I find it interesting that these complaints of muscle pain are NOW being confirmed, now that a newer, more expensive, medicine is available without the same side-effect profile.
There is a group of British Cardiologist that wan them band. They said their patients are worse on them. And they wonder where Alzheimer's comes from. Another bad mix is if your taking Metformin. Deadly to the brain.
It's such a classic. Patients complain to doctors about side effects. Doctors assume it's psychosomatic. Condescension and disrespect are hallmarks of the medical community.
My cardiologist told me that my medication does not cause a buzzing or ringing in the head yet it is listed a possible side effect and started less than 2 weeks after I began taking it.
Bravo! A week after I started statins I did not know the name of my dog I had for five years. Joint aches, muscle aches, trouble sleeping. Stopped the statins and three days later all was fine. Best of luck to all of us!!
Surprise surprise. Doctors finally acknowledge side effects where there is an alternative... Coincidentally the alternative is more expensive. Ha ha ha.
LOLOL, aren't they precious?! After 4.5 weeks I quit statins and its supporting medications - they were monstrously debilitating and I'd become unable to function on my own. Then I had a life threatening reaction to the medically recommended "whole plant diet" from which I am trying to recover. 😖
But that's not science!!!! Yeah, I mean a few people - but a lot reported the problem. Statins are overprescribed anyway - especially for people over 70 years. The best evidence shows a reduction of about 15% in cardiovascular mortality risk (that is risk not mortality). One Chinese study found no impact on overall mortality.
Not necessarily. But too much sugar is the problem when our body can't handle too much of it. But it's true that Cholesterol is not the problem at all.
@@dmana3172 Fructose and HFCS is metabolized by the liver and if not needed the liver converts it into fat, your body doesn't need you to eat carbs, if your body needs glucose your body can produce it through gluconeogenesis.
Took them for 10 years. When training to run a 5k ( hard for a non-runner), I began to get massive cramping and total body pain. Taking the max daily dose of acetaminophen in conjunction with the max daily dose of ibuprofen still left me lying on my bed crying in pain. Did a quick search and saw the info on the issue with statins. Told my doctor I was stopping the medication...within 2 weeks and in the 6 years since stopping...NO BODY PAIN. Now living outside of the USA, my current doctors tell me that I have only a 4% chance of death due to high cholesterol and I NEVER NEEDED TO TAKE STATINS.
Hi i hope u can reply to me. I have been just prescribed statins due to high cholesterol.and to give u numbers my cholesterol is 240 mg/dl hdl is 43.84mg/dl and ldl is 208.50 mg/dl. Should i take the recommended statin or just do some lifestyle changes?
@@Beeman2892 research Dr Malcom Kendrick. He has studied LDL cholesterol for years and says it does not cause heart disease. Am reading his book now. Excellent!
been a nurse since 1975------ my husband was given statins for high cholesterol in the late 80's. They tried zocor then lipitor and when they didn't work they upped the dose. My hubby kept saying he was in pain. He was told he was imagining it. Finally he was walking on a dock at work and his legs gave out. I took him off statins and he was well in a few days. Do you know that SOB doctor threatened to tell the insurance company that he was non compliant so that if he had a heart attack they wouldn't cover it?
FIRE THE DOCTOR! Shop around by connecting with self-help groups for heart disease patients. Also, "Integrative Health" combines herbal and AMA medicine, along with Allied Health pros. We have it at HCMC in the Twin Cities. I'm sure other medical centers do to. Just remember, if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything you see will look like a nail, and chiropractors and NDs are subject to bias, too.
@@sedg03 not sure! one thing that could help is to offer a reasonable path to get your M D without accruing a quarter mil in debt, lets say 5 to seven years of working with a stipend to live on .then your school is paid off. they can serve in rural and other places that can't support a doc. this might attract some less greedy people. also, stop letting big pharma and the food industry influence how docs are taught in med school. it's just a thought.
Doctors get a kickback from the drug companies. That says most of the problem, the rest of the problem is arrogance and lawyers. Arrogance is taught in medical school, corrupting the legal system is taught in law school. In the end only the lawyers win. EVERYBODY ELSE LOSES!
My Repatha injectible prescription is currently $500 month and thankfully my insurance covers it with a $25 co-pay. I have the familial hyperlipidemia type of high LDL cholesterol. (In simple terms, it's hereditary and my liver doesn't properly process cholesterol, so now amount of healthy eating can get this condition turned around.) I have been on all 5 statins and they all caused muscle pain over time so I stopped them. Sadly, over 15 years I've had angioplasty 3 times and now have 5 stents in my heart. My cardiologist talked me in to trying the Repatha alternative to statins and I again developed muscle pain however it is less. Also, I've learned using Repatha can bring on diabetes. I'm in a very difficult position and want to stop taking it.
My doctor put me on a statin almost a year ago. Every visit, I tell her I'm fatigued all the time, muscle cramps, stomach pain my A1c is going up. She has no answer. Now she says I'm diabetic.my diet is fine and no one in my family is diabetic. Without telling her I'm going to stop taking the statin and use Berberine or Bergamot. Then I'm gonna look into switching to a DO doctor. Most dictors today prescibe medicine for a problem and then the medication causes a another problem so the doctor prescribes another medicine. We're all getting sicker and big pharmaceuticals are getting rich from it. Im 55 and need to look for a doctor who is invested in a patients health and explain conditions not just prescribe a pill.
I was on 20 mg of lipitor and the side effects were horrendous. The doctor reduced it to 10 mg and it didn't make any difference. I started taking aswagandha and red yeast rice extract. I am extremely pleased with the results. There are alternatives to statins. How we live is far more important than how long we live.
Also the creation of LDL as the "bad cholesterol" is b .s. There are plenty of professionals : cardiologists, MDs on the globe now challenging the whole created ideas that were funded by Pharma back in the late 50s/60s.
I had the same problems with red yeast rice--now I take flax seed oil, krill oil, resveratrol and gugullipid-I dropped my cholesterol 82 points in 3 months with no side effects
Red yeast rice (if you can get the real untampered thing, preferably by making it yourself starting with stuff you buy at an Oriental grocery) in fact contains a statin. Oyster mushrooms do also (but don't overdo them, half a mushroom per day is probably ballpark target). Back 15 years ago when I didn't have any insurance and I'd run out of Lipitor, I ate one oyster mushroom per day. My blood tests later that year showed that was too much. The drawback of these natural solutions is that it's hard to know what actual dosage you're getting, and it probably varies from batch to batch.
I agree! I am on a Paleo diet and have no problem with cholesterol or high BP. Changing our diets should always be the first step, not medication. You were very smart to go natural!
doctor told me to go on statin didn't really want to but did for 9 days on lipitor and felt like my wrist was sprained a number 8 on pain scale so doc said to take another statin crestor i said NO! doc said why? i said my brother is on crestor and out of bed in morning half way to bath room he's crawling legs hurt i tell my bro its the crestor and 6 months he's on da chit he gets diabetes so this i told doc and doc still insists on crestor and iam ready to tell himm you take and ill watch what happens to you! Wow some of these docs must be getting a hefty kickback on sales of statins.My wifes chloestoral was a little elevated and her doc said he ordered lipitor for her , well didn't pick it up, so went to another doc two days later and chloestoral was not elevated! go figure!
My husband took statins for years and had a cholesterol level of around 11. Doctors thought that was wonderful. Sure. He has muscle and nerve damage, partly due to the statins, and had to go on disability. He hasn’t taken the medication for a number of years, but the damage is done, and his condition is getting worse. I’m glad to hear that there’s proof of their damage.
I just quit the statin a month go because I developed lower back and muscle pain. Th elowerback apon stopped and I'm hoping the joint pain is not permanent.
Is your husband on any other meds? Does he take any supplements? I recommend researching nutriceuticals/foods/supplements for muscle/nerve damage. A few vitamins that may be of benefit (research/ask a qualified/trusted nutritionist) are vitamin B complex, vitamin D (at least 4 or 5 thousand ius, maybe more to begin with) magnesium/potassium (as long as he is NOT on meds that can INCREASE potassium levels) vitamin C (no more than 500 mg) and zinc (no more than 40 mg). Of course, diet and water intake are very important roles.
I told my doctor multiple times I was getting horrific cramping under my ribs in my sides (especially my right side where my liver is located). I would also get cramps in my feet and back and sometimes across my chest. He just blew me off, saying I was getting older. The last time he blew me off when I said I thought I had arterial blockage, I had to have quad bypass. Very glad I came across this report.
Same here, not only the pain, but the daily nausea which I was told couldn't be because of the limit or. Cancer free now, but went into a fib now 9 amiodorone, eliquis and of all things losartin. Never had high blood for 69 years. Exhausted all the time, last pt scan said severe atherosclerosis
Same here! I'm having terrible pain at the 12th rib on both sides and extremely tight muscles in my mid-back. Also getting some cramping in my feet when I go to bed. I have atherosclerosis with 5 stents in my heart from hereditary high LDL cholesterol. I stopped the statins years ago but a year ago started on the new alternative -- Repatha injectable -- and this is what it's doing to me : (
@@kathyhayward5730 Me too. I'm using the new alternative (Repatha) and developed severe pain around my bottom ribs as well as muscle tightness in my middle back. No amount of physical therapy, acupuncture, massage and daily stretching is taking care of it.
My doctor called me and wanted to put me on statins because of a slightly high cholesterol. She had never met me (she is new to the practice). Did not ask any questions about lifestyle, BMI, resting pulse rate, etc. I asked her "So because of this one biomarker you want to put me on a drug with known side effects?". Yes, she said. She got quite upset when I resisted. I've done some research and these drugs are bad. 25% of patients get side effects, and that's just theones identified. God knows if they are contributing to dementia, Parkinson's and the epidemic of Type 2 diabetes. Don't take them. Go on a plant-based diet and get some exercise.
I had the same experience - and I've lost faith in the doc on this. I'm forced to do as much research as I can, change my diet as best i can, do regular exercise. there are now two competing theories about how cholesterol works statin sales are based on the one that's currently popular in the med world. it's frightening that there should be such a situation. I rememer thalidomide, and just read about vioxx. now i'm reading about a lipitor study that suggests they reduce heart attacks by 1.1% and yet the drug co said it reduces risk by 36% who do we trust?
Going plant based is the worst thing you can do for your health. Plants are full of toxins and antinutrients and is not at all what any human has ever thrived on without pumping themselves with fake vitamins. Every cell in your body needs animal fat and protein. I was a vegetarian for 20 years and the amount of health problems I had was unreal. I was literally dying. I cut out all plants and got off four medications and am healthier than I've ever been in my life. I'll never poison myself with plants again.
I’m 27 with a congenital heart defect and high cholesterol, my primary care doctor recommended to exercise and eat healthy, so I got better but my cardiologist put me on statin and they gave me heart pain so I stopped taking them.
Years ago, I had a bad case of bronchitis, and I knew it. I saw my primary, and he decided to put me on acid reflux medications, much to my dismay, and he refused to x-ray my chest to confirm my suspicions. Two days later I end up in the ER, and my nurse did the history, what meds I was on, etc. When she heard I was on acid reflux meds, she told me of the evils of those medications. Those meds are statins and thicken the mucus in your lungs, that's why you are much sicker than you were two days ago. She told me I have options to either quit taking them and go on a very strong strain of antibiotics (after seeing the x-ray, I was shocked), or end up with pneumonia and possibly die from that. Naturally, I chose the antibiotics and stopped seeing that primary immediately. Rose A, I praise your decision to stop taking them, because they are dangerous!! Stay well, my friend!!
@@lisarice4402 Really... - A Bronchitis isn’t visible in an x-ray. Only a pneumonia is. - a bronchitis is diagnosed by symptoms, auscultation and blood work , which your doctor should have done. - anti acid drugs don’t worsen a bronchitis. Zero, nada, rien. - today you hardly die from a pneumonia unless you are of high age, multi morbid, immune suppressed or in a very poor shape. And drugs against hyperacidity aren’t statins.
Celisar1 - I know what I saw having been x-rayed for that many times in my life. I paid extremely close attention to what the nurse said, and have been off all acid reflux medication since. They ARE dangerous, especially for those of us who deal with brain injury and breathing difficulties on a daily basis. I know what I can and cannot take, and I will not hurt myself to make anyone feel like they ‘know’ me better than I do. These health issues are NOT yours to comment on. Move on!!
You are correct. Every single person on a statin will absolutely develop muscle damage. There is a study that proved this via muscle biopsies, proving wrong about a safe level of having elevating enzymes called CPK. creatine phosphore kinase.... Research it.
YEP! Only after 3 weeks of taking Lipitor, it feels like I have a pulled muscle in my right quadricep. Only thing I do is walk, pushups & situps. Also, both my hands have been hurting like crazy! I quit taking the lipitor a day ago.
I had a triple bypass a year and a 1/2 ago. The last year my legs have been in agony. I almost can't even walk anymore. 64 years old and I feel like I'm dying. After reading about this I stop taking the med.
Ok, but what about the studies that have revealed high cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease and stroke??? Heart attacks occur in people with low, normal and high cholesterol in similar numbers.
Uuuuuhm, I know some people who are completely full of crap AND hypersensitive AND dramatic about what's going on (that usually isn't) with their health. Could be why Crystal is laughing.
@@sedg03 I’ve encountered doctors who don’t care. But mostly I’ve encountered caring doctors who are limited by training which says that if it isn’t in the medical texts, it’s psychosomatic.
@@bewitchingcats Me? I'm the patient who tells doctors they are wrong - and I'm living proof if it! lol. They usually blow me off.. and disregard what i say. Untill... ;( Started when i was 9 years old? Written up as case study? Big time? Changed the face of medicine into a more holistic model. Then i had an injured horse? And the brightest vet brain in our world said he could not be saved. I saved him. That doc told me: "I've had ppl who would have paid me a million dollars to save their horse's life, and i never could. Tell me exactly what you did." That was written up n published and boy did that one open up the world for horse owners. Big time. Worked w researcher at Bayer, wrote n published articles about a coccidian-protozian infectious agent lives in dogs n cows.... Written n published other canine medical articles. I do? What regular docs (relying on what they were taught) can not. Its a pattern i learned as a 9 year old kid w a best friend who was a purty smart bio.chem guy. Standing on the shoulders of giants ;) And? Yes, i prefer kind docs for myself? Or @ docs that are just extremely bright.. ;) i more often than not? When others set out to verbally knock someone down prior to my meeting new guy/doc? Its a major clue I'll most likely get along very well w dr. difficult. lol
They are a bunch of drug dealers, who don't know such a thing as real health and how to cure a patient. I feel sorry for them cause they are brainwashed through their studies to serve bif pharma. Luckily there are a few exceptions.
My doctor was noticeably agitated when I told him what I found out about Statins. They'll never admit that they're part of the scam. They have to prescribe, because if they don't, they might face lawsuits if any of their patients get a heart attack or stroke. Really sad.
I was told the other day to stop doing my own research on it and if I didn't start taking it again I would die in 10 years. Maybe so with a 200 but is there not another option, like say get on a better diet? I'm told its hereditary as well and I need to be on them forever.
@@robafett stop doing ur own research? Wow that is f’ed up. There was once a time when doctors’ advertised smoking on commercial tv, so don’t take their word as final. Also, check out david diamond, gives some interesting talks about cholesterol.
They get "perks" for pushing drugs. My cousin is a retired pharmaceutical salesman and said it's true. Also I taught the son of my parents doctor and he bragged about vacations the pharmaceutical companies paid for.
It is not true. I tell the patients about the risks of high cholesterol and how the risk reduces with statins. If the patients still doesn’t want the medication it is up to them. They just accept the risk.
I went for my yearly cardio visit today and during our conversation, I told him that I'd stopped simvastatin. After telling him all my bad side effects, he said well, if it's causing you more misery than good, he agreed.
I'm wondering what my cardiologist will say when l will tell him that l'm not taking the statin he prescribed me, l see him next month, my GP told me the list of side effects are nothing but lies and that most of the people on statins are fine, no complaints.
@@merrelthorson2224 I wish I knew what to tell you. I've been off of mine for over a year. It's hard to tell a difference since I have osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia which both keep me in constant pain. You're damned if you and if you don't. I went off keto due to boredom during the 'plandemic', but am going to restart it. I had a cardiac Petscan last summer and he said it was 'perfect'. I felt so much better on the Keto diet! Let me know what you decide! Best wishes and a Happy and Healthy New Year to you!🌹
Notice the patients weren't "right" until they had another pill to sell. That's unethical, violates patient rights for ignoring side effects, and the manufacturers/drug company should be sued.
Statins wrecked my husbands memory. He can remember his childhood and up to him being put on this awful drug. He has problems with his short term memory. He had double vision, ie., whilst watching football, he could see two centre circles, one was about 4 feet above the other. Cramps and headaches are just a few of the side effects he had. He stopped taking them and, but for the memory loss, he is fine. It has been called, THE THIEF OF MEMORY. DON'T TAKE IT!
I took stains and repatha for a time. Statins were a nightmare with weight gain, leg pain, weakness and mental fog. Repatha was a chore to deal with and the expense became prohibitive. Dropped them and I feel much better. Drastically reduced sugar, lost 50 pounds, ignoring LDL and pleased that my HDL is equal to or grater than triglycerides. Life is better for me over the past two years though I have scandalized the general practitioner.
My M.D. 20 years ago on live radio: "I teach med school at OSU and I told my students in a lecture last week that I wouldn't prescribe a statin drug to a dead rat!" I've followed his wisdom, and so have many others. The local hospital board lost their mind when he said this. But history has proven him right.
@@salt1360You evidently have not experienced the devastating misery, pain and suffering caused by many medications. Lucky you. Not everyone is the same.
I had muscle intolerance and brain fog/massive confusion. I thought I was getting early onset Alzheimer's. Thankfully my doctor listened to me. I have very high cholesterol and my doctors actually listen to me when I describe what happens to me on statins.
Went to my doctor yesterday told her the statin I have been taking ( Lipitor ) should be banned and classed as a dangerous drug it almost destroyed my life severe muscle pain , weakness , cramps , no energy , she just smiled at me.there should be a class action against this medication , was prescribed it after a major operation almost kept me in bed for twelve months and took 3 months to come good after throwing it in the bin spoke to three different Doctors and they all just give you a vague look when you try to discuss it with them , hope this helps somebody else ..
Doctors aren't scientists, they don't spend a lot of time on research. My experience with my father's doctors was unreal. They go med school, memorize a ton of information but, never learn to think critically. Brainwashing by the pharmaceutical companies and they go along with it. Should be a crime.
This is the way I handled it. Except I never took that crap. If you have to have a blood test just to take it....it is bad. Liver enzymes, bc it messes the liver up too.
I don't have high cholesterol , but my doctor wants it under normal. Diet won't change that. And a lot of people have hereditary cholesterol issues. Diet won't fix everything. Just because someone has an issue doesn't mean they aren't eating the right food. Some people just have that. But nevertheless, the side effects were too much. I'll just have to live with normal cholesterol .
I’ve seen people with hereditary cholesterol issues get in the normal range by going vegan or by seriously cutting back on carbs and increasing vegetables
1 million patients: this is painful doctors: it's in your head pharmaceutical companies: we made a new drug! doctors: we did a study and you may have been right all along
It's exactly why I trust nothing about the medical Industry today. If I get sick I'll either get better or I'll die. But the only times I have been sick was after going to see a doctor..
Anyone thinking about taking statins should read the book “The Great Cholesterol Myth”. A family member (woman) was taking statins. She went to see her doctor on a Monday and he was so happy to see her “great numbers” - meaning how low her cholesterol was. Less that 36 hours later, she had a heart attack.
Cholesterol testing is a scam. Cholesterol is required to be healthy or the body would not produce it naturally. Cholesterol does not cause heart attacks. Research coronary calcium testing.
You got a study of one. Typical, because you're promoting a book that looks like typical anti-carb BS. It's taking advantage of the fact biology is complex.
OK, but there’s a lot of stuff that can cause a heart attack, did she smoke? Did she have high blood pressure? It seems like a very disingenuous statement
I am just seeing this today. This should be on the news again. My mother had severe muscle pain while on statins. At the time there was no connection. She thought she had fibromyalgia. RIP Mom.💜
That’s such crap. I stopped taking statins because I could not function. My quality of life went down the tubes. Tell me why the FDA won’t make this for everyone? Money! That’s the answer!
I’ve been on 10 mgs for almost 30 years. I have never had any side effects. In 2000, my moms Dr prescribed them for her and within a week she couldn’t walk. She went off them and returned to normal within days. Several months later the Dr wanted her to try again since he ‘thought it was all in her head.’ Yeah, something happened.
Boy, I've never heard that before -- Doctors thinking it's all in your head? Not listening? Not caring? Totally eye-opening -- simply can't believe it -hardy har har.
My husband told his doctor this for years. They just kept giving him more and raising the doce. He quit it all together. Felt better. Just watched his diet. Doc didn't like it but it worked for him.
Never listen to these bloody people all they are doing is getting Rich by making you feel that you are ill and they are doing is taking you.money.afterall.they are American and they love taking you money
Statins caused me to have disturbing dreams and nightmares, on an almost nightly basis. Ten years of thinking there was something going wrong with me psychologically. Then I found out this can be a side effect of taking statins. Stopped taking them last December, and the horrible dream life was gone within six weeks.
I had to go off mine prior to a medical procedure. After a week off I felt like a new person . I went back on it after the procedure and immediately started feeling the aches , especially in my hips and lower back. I’ve now made the decision to go natural and see how my cholesterol looks in January.
I took a statin and was not warned about the muscle pain. It was debilitating. Unbelievable that they have framed this as “we thought it was all in their heads.” The pain was so severe I could barely stand. I thought I was having some kind of attack, or maybe had blood clots in my legs. I was furious when the doctor was nonchalant and said no problem, it’s just a statin side effect. No surprise that the big drug companies finally publicize this and play like they just discovered these side effects when they have brought new, extremely expensive substitutes to market. Hey, if there weren’t any side effects to the old statins (which had outlived their lucrative patents), why spend millions and years getting new ones with fewer side effects approved?
The way this lady described it reminds me of what I have... fibromyalgia. I was ignored by my PCP as well. The jerk wanted me to have 6 shrink visits instead of addressing my pain and what was causing it. Needless to say, I changed PCPs.
PCP? Isn't that a drug? It was in the seventies. I really don't know, but I heard PCP is a horse tranquilizer. Just say no to drugs and your Primary Care Provider
Have u ever tried near infrared or far infrared therapy for the fibro? I find near infrared to be my favorite but i just started going into a red light bed and its helping body pain. Also take a magnesium vitamin from MegaFoods is a chewable it doesnt taste good but its not bad but it jas magnesium malate and magnesium glycinate. Its a good combo. Obviously epsom salt baths but maybe less obvious is liver detox vitamins. I jist started them and sweat i got a infrared blanket from sharper image brand and i put a towel down on the bed and that on top of me and lots of blankets and sweat out the toxins. Hope u feel better maybe something i suggested might help.
My dad had COPD but was managing it very well with diet, exercise, and, moderate meds (when needed). Being a heavy smoker in his youth he had to undergo heart surgery and was immediately, put on statins. When his whole personality changed and the pain and induced diabetes took over, I intervened. He was afraid to say anything to me about the meds believing doctors know best (yeah, right) but I got him off everything except the one heart med that was needed. So, from 10 meds to 1. Sadly, the damage was done and he died a couple of years after that. I'll see a doctor if I have to but, they'll never get me on these drugs or, any drugs for that matter. So much for the Hippocratic Oath.
I had an argument about statins with a doctor. She said patients should just take their meds and stop complaining about the side effects. WTH!!?? She was no longer my doctor after that conversation.
Have had a life-long high ratio of HDL to LDL... 10 years ago my GP proscribed a popular statin and it brought the ratios way down but after a few months I had terrible muscular/tendon pain. Could not climb stairs. Blood work indicated liver damage. Quit the drug and slowly recovered. Next year tried another statin; essentially the same results. These findings are no surprise to me....
NOBODY. Has ever proven high LDL cholesterol has any bearing on heart attack or strokes. Statins have 1 purpose, the same as all drugs and vaccines. Fill the pockets of the medial mafia. And keep there customers coming back for more treatments. MEDICINE IS BIG BUSINESS. THE ONLY PRIORITY IS PROFITS!!!
@@herbbowler2461 Well, high LDL may be *associated* with worse outcome in some settings. It may even be a contributing factor, but high insulin/insulin-resistance seems to be the elephant in the room.
@@btudrus LDL has never been proven a problem. It's a scam to sell statins and lead to other expensive drugs! Your right about high insulin. But avoid fad diets like keto. Just eat healthy. No reason fined junk.
I was on Statins for a couple of years. My knees hurt and a shoulder was almost locked up. I was diagnosed with arthritis in both. I stopped taking the Statin and within a month the pain in my knees was gone. My shoulder pain and stiffness went away. I have tried a few different Statins and it is always the same problems.
@@fortheloveofmoon give you a clue .. stop worrying about cholesterol. Your liver produces 75% of what you need and will cease if you have enough ... unless you have liver damage and statins likely cause that
I was on statins, different ones. Made me randomly vomit - without any stomach upset or warning. When I was showing my grandson a beautiful new flower on the plant he gave me and I threw up on him - that was the last straw. They put me on a cholesterol blocker and I went off them as well and now take 800mg of Nattokinase. My cholesterol has dropped to almost normal levels in six months. The doctor told me to keep taking the blocker as it was working….I assured him I would lol.
I’m so pleased to see this, and not a little relieved as well. This happened to me 5 years ago. Just because of my age and the drive to keep everyone’s cholesterol levels down, I was prescribed a course of these silly little pills. As soon as I started taking them I noticed that when walking along a regular totally flat route, it felt as if I was walking up a hill! No pain or aches, just a tingling sensation I recall. I told the doc straight away that I was going to stop taking them. I feel fine 5 years later, and I’m still here! Do the doctors get any sort of “referral fee” or incentives from the myriad of pharmaceutical companies producing these pills? Peter
I tell my doc im still taking them & get it refilled but don't take it bc of the horrible side effects. Meanwhile changed diet to lower it naturally. I can't be honest with the doc bc they'll refuse to listen 👂 about the horrible side effects & decide they -"don't wanna help me if I'm not willing to help myself & follow directions." Wish I could slip statins in their drink everyday. Then when they can't make into work coz they're sick 🤮. Explain to them why they've been feeling so miserable 😂 It's the only way they'll learn/listen. For years these "experts" insisted that Tramadol doesn't cause WD.....15 yrs later they finally admit it does. They also think anti-depressants are some cure all drug. 😂
For several years I took that stuff. I was so debilitated in movement, it was hard to do work. Finally, I took myself off and within a few days, I was feeling my old self again. My doctor was not happy but, I was and still am. Stay away from all prepackaged food and always read the ingredients. Educate yourself on those ingredients and avoid them. Exercise and stay active. Heart disease does not run in my family. No more statins for me.
That is right. Doctors state I am not in pain. I am so sick of how people are put down for chronic pains caused by health issues or medications. Hence why I seldom go to the doctor. Yet, today, I am going to go and fight for my health. Hopefully this new doctor will listen. I will not take a medication that was prescribed without my consult in February. It is a Statin and I refuse to have more side effects bothering me. Doctors listen to your patients!
Money wheel... if you vomplain it's like poking acstivk in the gears of a smooth running machine... $ for drug companies? $ for docs? Patient bypassed their use by date. Solution? Dump loser patients n get bew ones, winmow it down to only patientd that do as doc says get medical tx.... ;(
I have a replacement ankle, fully ruptured that achilles post surgery, have had bi-level baloon kyphoplasty, completely eroded disc(s) and multi level stenosis and have needed surgery for years. Still need surgery.. im washed up middle age guy and they accuse me of wanting meds. Funny thing is I'm a recovered addict and wouldn't take opiods if I had too and vocalize that. Just a constant cycle of referrals to the next Dr to try cut me down mentally. Stay strong lady, I feel ya. 😘
My father took Lipitor for a cholesterol level that was only 110 which is ridiculous! Within months, he developed rhabdomyolysis and was hospitalized for three months. He was sent to hospice care and he decided he wanted to come home. It is now 23 years later and he’s 84 years old, yes he lost a lot of muscle mass and long term memory but he’s able-bodied and is just showing signs of short term memory loss.
Same thing happened to my 84 year old aunt. She lives alone and one day she tried to get up from the bed and fell to the floor. Her legs were useless, and she didn't have any strength in her upper body to pull herself up. She couldn't reach her phone. She laid there for 3 days and nights before my cousin got suspicious when she wasn't answering the phone. She was very close to death when found. Her doctor took her off the med. That stuff is poison!
So discouraging. Patients suffered for years on Statins , and now the medications that work without the side effects are outrageously expensive. Ain’t American healthcare great .
Just eat properly. I was prescribed Atorvastatin after being diagnosed with chronic pancreatitus. No-one told me that the muscle cramps in my legs, loss of short term memory, loss of balance and brain fog and worsening vision were side effects. I thought it was just old age. I'm 67. The drug didn't prevent me from having a heart attack either. I am so sick of doctors' lies. I stopped taking the drug yesterday. I will reduce my suger intake and We will see.
In 1986 I was diagnosed with lupus and the docs were happy to put me on long term drugs and ignore me. After a year and a half I stopped the drugs, went with alternative healing and started having an immediate "spontaneous remission." A fairly recent 20 year study proved that the majority of damage was caused by the drugs and not the disease. I stayed away from doctors for 30 years and now when I bring it up I am dismissed as ever having it exactly because I don't have the damage caused by long term drug use. I still have all the various symptoms but maybe it's because I didn't take the drugs that I have always thought that I must simply have a milder case than most.
D J, my mother was diagnosed with lupus several years ago and she passed away, would you mind sharing your alternative eating plan with me, the doctors have placed me on statins, and I don't feel comfortable with them, I have been diagnosed with COPD
@@valerielewis2066 Copd? From smoking? Quit smoking, and research herbs to help detox. Eat more selenium and B vitamins. Allergen testing, food intolerance, etc. Focus on increasing healthy choices and decreases unhealthy choices. Good luck. My grandmas sister has copd. No statins, eat less saturated fat and eggs if its high.
@@valerielewis2066 High cholesterol is caused by consuming carbohydrates. Stop eating bread, rice, potatoes, sugar, crackers, cereals, cakes, etc. and your cholesterol will go down without drugs. Research the Keto diet.
The cheapest and easiest way to deal with cholesterol is to simply eat a low carbohydrate whole foods diet. What's the point of taking new, expensive drugs.
When I told my doctor that my severe muscle pains is caused by statins he wasn't very happy about it. That's what he does for a living, what do you expect.
And, dementia. My father’s memory is gone. He was diagnosed with an auditory processing disorder about the same time he started taking a statin. He can no longer understand language. Now he can’t drive, he don’t remember close friends, and he sits and does nothing because his brain is gone. My mother won’t listen when I tell her it’s probably the statins, and it always ends up in a huge argument. I miss my Dad, he’s always been such a kind and sweet person. I just wish I could sit and have a nice conversation with him about the past.
So it’s interesting that no one who commented on this video, ever said that their doctors first order/recommendation was for them to change their diet.
I had muscle weakness and memory loss. The memory loss was much worse than the muscle weakness. I started doing research and when I found out about what side effects statins have, (I was on Lipitor) I stopped using it the same day, 6 December 2006. Took more than a decade for my memory loss to improve.
It's all about the money. Check out exotic automobiles at my specialist garage. Dumped him and found a way to get around him. Here in S. Africa we have biggest ripoffs.
I have congenital hyperlipidemia. In other words, without Lipitor or other statins, my cholesterol level is over 600. My father had the same thing. His first heart attack was at the age of 50. He died much younger than he should have or would have if statins had been available earlier. I have been on statins for 25 years, since the age of 40 and have never had a heart attack or even a stent or bypass. Statins saved my life. Just saying.
How are you Now? I am 44 and I have to be on lifelong statins and blood thinners as they discovered a blockage in my heart and a stent is needed. I am scared and still trying to come to terms with it.
@@JohnJ469 hey thanks for asking. I had my stent done in nov. So been doing ok. Had an allergic reaction to 2 statins. So testing out alternative meds. I hope continue to be fine in the future. How abt u?
@@CP-ym9eh I'm glad to hear it. So long as you're feeling better, that's the important thing. I reacted to the Statins too, crippling leg pain 24/7, it's not an unusual reaction. There are alternatives out there that work well. I'm good now. 4 hearties and enough stents to make my heart bulletproof but nothing for the last few years. Make sure you keep an eye on your weight and blood sugars too, Diabetes hardens the blood vessels.
Oh, yes, I was prescribed a statin. When I went to the pharmacy the price had decreased to $0.00, so it’s never been opened. Most medications that are free in the U.S. have far too many negative side effects!
Wouldn't you know that big pharma has got you covered with another one of their concoctions, plus it costs a LOT more money. THE most important thing is a healthy diet. After doing keto, ALL of my labs are normal, including type 2. Plus, they make you think 'cholesterol' is a bad thing. I have my yearly visit with my cardiologist tomorrow. I had a single by-pass in early 2000, and have been under the care of a cardiologist since then. The last time I saw him, he was going over my chart and said, 'I see you haven't been getting your simavastain filled.' I told him that was right, that I had been doing a lot of research and didn't like what I read, plus, I told him about all of the side effects I'd had over a decade. He just gave me that 'look' and said I'm going to call you some in. I took them for a few days and stopped again. He'll probably confront me again tomorrow, but I'm telling him that I have to advocate for myself, since no one else will and if he wants to drop me as a patient, that will be fine too. Plus, I've known him since he was a child. Our families went to church together and he was friends with my sons in school, so it's not like we're strangers. I have a list of symptoms if he wants to go 'there.' Since the 'plandemic' I don't trust anyone in health care anymore.
Doctors have bee ignoring my pain for years It’s like this. They prescribe something. I do my research. If I don’t like the side effects, I don’t take it. If I take something and it bothers me, I don’t take it again I’m a really lousy patient
Me too ✋, I agree. I hate when some stranger in the office, like a physician assistant you've never met; tries to titrate meds & the increased dosage start making me sick. Then I have to fight to see a board certified medical doctor 😒!!
This is so typical of doctors. I, and millions of other breast cancer survivors, have to take a hormone suppressing pill for 5-10 years after we finish cancer treatment. This medication causes debilitating side effects of joint pain and muscle stiffness. Although there are thousands of blogs and support groups for women like us, most oncologists just don’t get it. They dismiss us as though it’s all in our heads. My oncologist, and I truly believe this man saved my life, still makes me feel like I’m just whining. I wish for one day he could feel what I live with and will have to live with for seven more years.
Congratulations on completing your cancer treatment. I do hope that something can be developed that doesn't cause so much pain in the process. God bless.
Hey sister, I have about 14 months to go on my oestrogen blocker, then I’m free. I also take a blood thinner because the clot shot caused a blood clot in my illiac artery and I had stents implanted but I went off 3 other medications - haven’t told my doctor about that yet. BUt what he doesn’t know won’t hurt him. I do my research now and look for alternatives. I went off statins and take 800mg Nattokinase instead. I monitor my own progress and my cholesterol is almost perfect now. But won’t mess around with my Letrozole, I trust my breast surgeon. Good luck in beating the C.
Those of us in orthopedics know statins are dangerous for soft tissue. We see the ruptured tendons quite a bit. That cramping is a warning that if ignored can be catastrophic.
The third of people who started out on the original trials that had these side effects were removed from the studies and they pretended that side effects were low, among those left in the trials.
I take a very low does for over 15 years, and my MD and years of studies say this is better then anything in lowering a sudden heart attack. I have no problems with it.
Same here. My first ever lab was age 26. My total cholesterol was almost 300 and triglycerides over 350. I tried losing weight, jogging and the best I could get was 277. I started lipitor and it all came to normal range. Now it's so ideal to low at 110 ttl. I quit taking. If I ever get near 200 I'll go back on it
I never succumbed to the pressure to take statins. I just changed to eat keto with intermittent fasting. Reversed diabetes type 2, lowered my blood pressure to normal & levelled my cholesterol. It took a reasonable amount of time & commitment but oh is it ever worth it.
I agree. I've been doing the same and I feel great. I have so much more energy, a better mood, a clearer mind, more focus, no more inflammation in my gut, and improved digestive functions. People are demonizing Keto because they think it was eating lots of butter and bacon, lol. No, the right keto is the clean/healthy keto. No refined carbs, sugar, and inflammatory (Omega 6) oils like vegetable oil, and canola oil. Replace them with healthy fats like avocado, animal fats, and nuts. Eat lots of cruciferous vegetables for fiber, vitamins, and minerals. Eat good protein like grass-fed beef, lamb, venison, and fatty fish like salmon, cod, and sardines. Replace vegetable oil with olive oil, grass-fed butter or ghee, avocado oil, and coconut oil (MCT). Replace milk with almond or macadamia milk. Replace wheat flour bread with almond/coconut flour versions. Eat walnuts, almonds, pecans, pistachios, or macadamia nuts, and not peanuts and cashew nuts. Drink lemon water, ACV, green tea, and black tea (has bergamot). Take supplements from trustworthy manufacturers for Vitamin A, D3, E, and K2, nutritional yeast for Vitamin B, cod liver oil, milk thistle for liver support, and tudca for gallbladder support and bile production. Eating grains and carbs for decades results in the fat build-up on the liver and less gallbladder function since the food industrial complex has been promoting a low-fat high-carb diet. Well, bile is mostly made of cholesterol and the gallbladder squirts out bile when the body senses that there is fat intake. If you don't eat enough fats (healthy fat of course), the bile will not be squirted out from the gallbladder, circulated in the digestive tract, dumps 5-10% of it out of the body, and recycle 90-95% of it back to the liver and gallbladder. The bile will turn into sludge and eventually, stones. One important thing about cholesterol. A very small percentage of it is from food intake. The majority of it is made by the liver as ordered by the brain since the brain is mostly made of cholesterol (the brain loves cholesterol). Most of the hormones and digestive enzymes are synthesized from cholesterol. Disclaimer, I'm not a doctor. Info based on RU-vid research and personal experience following a clean keto diet.
@@susanstubel3736 clean Keto for me means mostly organic non-gmo food only. Cruciferous vegetables, fruits (strawberries, blue berries, rasp berries, and black berries), meats, butter/ghee from grass-fed/grass finished animals. Wild caught fatty fish like salmon, sardines, mackerel. 100% extra virgin olive oil. Basically, clean keto easily could be done by preparing your own meals since you have full control of the ingredients.
@@ThePinoyAggieI appreciate your reply. Good news for me is that I'm almost there; I just need a few adjustments. Thank you and good luck in good health.
Another anecdote here. Told doctor my feet, which I’m on all day, were hurting. He told me that wasn’t a symptom. I decided to stop taking it and exercise a little. My cholesterol stays around 200 now and I’m not in pain.
The muscle pain is real. I felt as if my muscles were detaching from my bones. I was only on statin for about six months. I stopped eating bacon, breakfast sausage and some other foods, waited a few month went back to see my doctor, labs showed my cholesterol numbers were within normal range. In reading the side effects, purpose brochure that comes with each prescription , not all medication are as effective or recommended for use in some race of people...African Americans...this was a surprise to me.
Everything in moderation. Too much saturated fat can't be great but the real culprit is too much sugars. And not just from sweets. A more high protein, moderate fats and moderate healthy carbs is the way to go. Its ok to have bacon sometimes. And after all of this, the original studies calling LDL the "bad" cholesterol were funded by Pharma back in the late 50s/60s. Studies have shown that people who have high LDL but moderate all the other markers inc blood pressure, weight, triglycerides live for a longer time, THERE IS NO DIRECT EVIDENCE THAT HIGH LDL is what causes arteriosclerosis.
I have been saying no to statins for years to my doctor. Went keto 3 yrs ago and stopped eating grains and starchy vege and anything that was processed in a factory. Cholesterol dropped 7.9 to 6.9, triglyceride plummeted from 4.7 to 0.8, total/HDL Chol Ratio 3.1 all in 6 months. Doctor still insisting I take statins. Studies are showing that post menopausal women (me) who have high LDL have less cancer, CVD, less autoimmune disease and live longer. It's just a money making scheme for pharmaceutical companies and lets not forget cigarette companies insisted that their product was safe and we all know how that went.
Keto is great for short term but eventually you’re going to build up plaque in your arteries. Too much of a good thing. But I agree with you avoiding processed foods. The body was not designed to be fed manipulated chemicals and marketed as food.
@@Stewmade64 Plaque builds up in response to cardiovascular disease. It's trying to repair damage to the artery wall. If you are not eating foods that cause the inflammation that leads to CVD then no plaque will build up. Human beings have only been eating grains for 12000 years, before that we were hunter gatherers eating mainly animal protein and only ate carbohydrates for very limited times of seasonal availability. There is documented research about the poor health of civilisations that ate mostly grain based diets. Egyptian skeletons show dental decay and bone disease even in relatively young mummy's and they ate a grain and corn based diet with very little animal protein. Keto based diets are nutrient dense and there is no evidence that they are harmful long term. That's plant based propaganda.
Irene Ewens wow, don’t know what science based studies you’ve read. What do you think causes cardio vascular disease? Genetics? THERE IS CHOLESTEROL IN ANIMAL PRODUCTS. Look up Arteriosclerosis sometime. Look at our teeth compared to another carnivore. Our teeth were not meant to eat meat. But comparing prehistoric “hunters & gatherer meat to today’s mass produced industrialized meat farms, you are getting hormones that don’t belong in humans, your getting allowable amounts of antibiotics, far from “nutrient” you can get. I’m not talking just grains, I’m talking a whole plant based diet. The same beneficial blood work and health improvements will occur without the worry about bacteria poisoning, hormones, or antibiotics. The meat and dairy industry also produces studies that you are most likely following in order to insure survival of their industries. I work with 5 cardiac surgeons that also agree with me. Maybe do some research from JAMA studies instead of Dr Oz. Just don’t be surprised when you start getting heart palpitations or one side of your face starts to sag.
I had a grandfather who doctors told him his neck pain was "all in his head". This went on for a year. Eventually X-rays revealed lung cancer that had spread to his spinal cord. I think if a doctor told me a pain is psychosomatic, I would immediately get a new doctor. This is so common it is becoming a cliche.
How many life’s have the Statins saved ? Zero ! In fact lowering the “bad” cholesterol artificially is a bad idea ….. lower “your” fast carbo hydrate input by roughly 80-90% and many many good things will happen to your health and body weight !
You do not need medication, start intermittent fasting eat only once a day, eliminate sugar and processed carbohydrates such as breads, start eating vegetables, reduce animal products, start fasting 72hrs once a month and you will reverse many medical problems. God bless you all eat what Mother Nature made for us and you will be amazed by your health improvements 🥰
Very sorry to hear that. Most people I know personally had to get off of statins and their trust of pill pushers (also known as "doctors") are getting lower. Even my own father could barely walk when taking Lipitor. The answer? The doctor he was seeing recommended another station. I mean . . . WTF?
@@davidmarkwald450 Yes I stopped taking them, no issues with leg or cognitive abilities, I feel much better, statins also reduce serotonin making you feel down or sad.
After experiencing leg cramps for the first time in my 70+ years, and noticing extreme hair loss, I stopped atorvastatin. No cramps, no more brushes full of my hair......
Although both my good as well as my bad cholesterol were low, the doctor insisted that I take a statin drug. I informed him that my left arm was very painful and felt useless. He ignored me. However, I refused to take that drug! My cholesterol was never bad so I didn't need it!
Reference ranges on lab tests for substances found in the human body are determined by statistical analysis with 95% of values being inside the normal range. Cholesterol is the only lab value that isn't done this way to make more people abnormal. Forty years ago the normal range for cholesterol was 150-300 mg/dl which is the proper way of determining the values. Today a proper statistical analysis of cholesterol would be lower due to intake of statins. Drug companies got labs to make the range below 200 so they could put most people on statins. I am a retired laboratory medical technologist. Most hormones are made from cholesterol so if you get your cholesterol too low you will have hormone deficiencies like low testosterone. Drug companies are as corrupt as the tobacco companies.
I was taking a Statin for my LDL I complained to my doctor and told him I wasn't going to take them after three days the first time he switched and gave me another Staten it worked for a little while and then all of a sudden I started getting the same pains my legs start swelling up my neuropathy in my legs started hurting ten times worse my muscles in my leg I was not happy so I told him can I stop for a while to see what was going on it's been a week now that I've been off of them and I can tell the difference already
I don't understand why it took a scientific study to prove what patients have been telling us for years! I've always listened to my patients. If they tell me something is causing a symptom, especially when so severe, I take them off the medication.I don't know what is so hard about that. There's nothing psychosomatic about having severe muscle aches and pain, and my husband is one of those people who couldn't tolerate statins. Maybe now doctors will start listening to patients. I certainly hope so as it would improve our medical care by leaps and bounds.
I am so relieved to read this..I have been having muscle breakdown all of a sudden. Just 1 strip of 40mg of Rosuvastine and I can barely function.😢 Dr told me I have to take it for life. I am 64. My total tryglycerides is 307. I just stopped. Doc said I could have a problem. I am already on 2 hypertension meds. 50mg Proplomet and 80mg Alzilsartan.😢
The problem with the medical community is they would rather prescribe medication like they were taught in school instead of naturally reducing problems like cholesterol. There is no money or profit when a patient heals themselves naturally. Many health issues are caused by bad diet and poor nutrition. The medical community will hardly address this. The most they will ever say if anything is try to eat healthy.
