Subways and Trolleys in the Same Tunnel?? Philly’s Market-Frankford Line & Subway-Surface Trolleys 

Yeah I’m honestly a big fan of it. I wonder if there will be any next steps. SEPTA has some really cool stuff that I’ve tried to highlight in my past videos. They should strut that stuff!

Absolutely, my mom always refers to our local Paoli-Thorndale Line as "the R5."

​@@tristanwain3868Yep. My only issue with the number system was they used the same numbers for both lines. Not every train that started in, say, Chestnut Hill using the old R7 as an example, would end in Trenton. We should've kept numbers in place but modified them. Phila isn't alone though. Other cities do commuter rail based on the destination, too.

my grandma kept telling me to take the R7 to work and i was like "what is that" lol turns out that's now just teh trenton line

@@mycobacteriem2540 Correct. The old number system was confusing in that despite the maps, not all trains that originated in Trenton would terminate in Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia; they would run a truncated route to Center City, Philadelphia. Using just the destinations like Boston & NYC does is clearer.

@sovi I hope that you are right about that. It's a pain having to go outdoors and cross 30th St. to make the connections.

Maybe this time will be the charm for the 5 times reopened station.

Thanks! And you taught me something today too: i am so sports-illiterate that I didn’t even know Baltimore had a NFL team 😂 I appreciate the comment about teaching! Actually almost all of the people on my wife’s side of the family are in education. It’s not the path I feel called to right now, but hoping to use my voice to serve in some form. Including in my videos (stay tuned for an Amtrak review on Saturday!)

The dirtiness is mostly perpetuated by the questionable people getting on and off at Somerset and Allegheny Stations. Two stops NOT worth visiting.

Oh, that's good to know for the future! I wanted to ride the MFL and the SST anyways, but next time I might stick to Regional Rail

I’m glad there’s an easier way to transfer. I’m also glad that we were able to show people how to transfer at 15th St, if they happen to miss their stop at 13th. As for the letters, you’re missing two groups people: tourists and people who don’t ride public transport daily. For these people, simplification can be a huge help. A transport company that seeks only to serve its patrons will see no growth in ridership. If you traveled to a different city, wouldn’t you want it made as easy as possible for you?

Definitely change to the trolley lines at 13th Street the next time....it's so much easier and much more direct

@@Thom-TRAActually such a (missed) transfer is easily available at 30th St rather than 15th St. and also can save some travel time over doing so at 13th St. I'll always make an eastbound transfer from the 34 (T2 they'll call it?) there. I'm looking forward to the re-established, and improved, direct connection into 30th St Station that was severed decades ago Excepting the transfer, you easily navigated, understood, and explained SEPTA on what I'll assume your first time on the system by the longstanding designations and wayfinding New riders always must figure out the method a transit agency identifies its system be it color, letter, number, name, mode/vehicle, type of service, stopping pattern, deviation, branch, time of day, day of week. It can take some finesse anywhere you go But tell me if, from your experience, a clean well kept SEPTA system would be the best enticement and service to tourists and new riders or not over this new wayfinding

@@clivegregory8511 cleanliness would help tremendously! But is the system open 24 hours? If so I understand why it’s dirty

@@Thom-TRA ru-vid.comUgkxZZIe5cLyYNtySGQHhQN1kgYDAyed3xv7 Frankford El in Kensignton, Philadelphia

They don’t share the same tracks their side by side

@@darrellwilliams9850 Oh! Ok!

Welcome to Philly

Thank you! Good to hear from you again, hope you are doing well. Got an Amtrak review ready for you on Saturday!

As a Philly native, I'll explain. The Frankford Line is probably filthy due to the fact that it runs through Kensington.

Trains could be cleaned at one end of the line and they'd be dirty by the other. This is partly laziness/piggishness and partly the belief by some poor and near-poor people that throwing away their own trash is taking away a cleaner's job. (I'm serious.)

That is interesting!

I can try to do that next time I’m in Philly!

Yep…

Really good!

You could probably put 100% of the blame on Kensington. The Frankford Line runs through the infamous Kensington neighborhood. In case you don't know about Kensington, Kensington is the skid row of Philly. Kensington is a OPEN DRUG MARKET that's suffering from an opioid crisis

Didn't use to be that way.@@homeoftek5844

I disagree. The system needs to be one cohesive system with easy transfers.

Transfers between Regional rail? or all of Septa system? by the way MFL is still filthy. glad i only ride it once in awhile.

I would Google “new septa trolleys”

oh my bad I didn't looked on the internet, thanks !@@Thom-TRA

@@p0tat0es_nation64 they look sweet

It’s a normal thing I see it all the time. Among other things I see

Name a perfectly clean subway lol