Succession’s Kendall - How The “Tribute Band” Bro is So Close To Winning 

He went for a dive twice and re emerge twice with crashing waves and all and in the end, floated, being one with water. Gives me chills. Being one with water. If the water is bad, Ken will be water. That is the sad part of his story. Unfortunately, I think he always knew he was born with this responsibility. It's bad for him on a personal level but it is what he also wants.

This parallel was perfect!! 👌 Ken is getting in control now!! Too good 👌😊

The Four Elements Conner is Water Kendall is Fire Shiv is Wind Roman is Earth

@@Blueberry40 Greg is Heart!

Completely agree

Hell probs win, spiral out of control and then everybody will lose

​@@emiandnues shiv is now winning.

guess whos totally correct

So, Karl?

@@milling321 He's gleefully awaiting his golden parachute

💯💯💯💯 walking away from mess is the ultimate boss move

Gerri

Conor

The only way Shiv and Tom get any footing into Waystar is IF they move together. But, Shiv isn't a person who will let what Tom did, go. Neither will Ken and Roman. The only way Tom will stay in his career is if Mattson will succeed and he will need Shiv to be SUCCESSFUL AT ALL TIMES dealing with Mattson. However, Siobhan will eventually choose her brothers I believe. Logan has instilled " family,Siobhan " adequately that I think it will be what it will be among the sibs. Greg will follow, dancing the robot man. 🤖

The weird thing about Shiv and Tom is that she clearly gets off on controlling him but is also disgusted by someone, especially a man, being submissive. It's similar to Logan keeping Kendall weak to manipulate him but despising that he lets it happen. That's why there is this recurring push and pull with them where she seems repulsed by him but also drawn towards him. I think Tom's character is realizing this, and is kind of morphing himself by not being scared of her, while still clearly enamored by her. He has already lost her, and he hasn't ended up on the street so he feels free to push back when she tries to walk over him. He even stopped using a higher pitch voice when speaking with her lol. I think we are going to see them team up again this season, but Tom will try to play the part of a junior partner instead of a kicked dog.

@@BlueBeamProjectionist On point with the Tom-Shiv relationship dynamic. I won't add any more to this in the interest of not adding to endgame spoilers. Thanks!

​@@BlueBeamProjectionist the scene where tom stopped using the hig pitch voice was so fkn good. I physically felt the difference in his voice.

@@BlueBeamProjectionist 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I haven't seen many people sympathise with Logan

@@aryavart296 I’m not trying to sympathize, but just explain what actually was happening in that scene. Cuz it goes back to what Brian cox has said about his children. He loves them but he hates that he loves them.

@@davidcummings4383 I Feel you kind of nailed it. Logan does not respect Kendell he never felt he was a killer. especially a real killer. Was insulted that Kendell would ever think Logan would have fear from him. he does not even view that Kendell actually killed the waiter (I agree actually) Just that he screwed up.

@@Dustaroo but he still loves kendall plus even respects him more than any of his other kids

he is screwing his grandkids though lol

Yes, that's why it works. I can't think of many successful attempts at doing this. The other one that comes to my mind is the movie Clueless, a modern adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma.

$4 dollars a pound.

Cant see that happening tbh

@@JoaoVictor-yq8ym why not?

@@randywhite3947 i dont really see him teaming up with matsson, but you never know with this show

@@JoaoVictor-yq8ym I agree with you. I think Ken is going to such lengths to tank the deal with Mattson because deep down inside he just wants to step into his father's footsteps ... CEO of Waystar, regardless of the consequences for anyone else. Making the deal with Mattson would put Mattson in a superior position. Ken doesn't want that. It is the last thing Ken wants.

I think Ken is setting up his brother to fail so he can take over as the head of the company.

I see things going very badly for Roman. Dude is spiraling hard. I don’t know if he survives this season.

It should, let's not forget Gerri has the pics and a great insight into the mess Roman is.

@@andresochoamoro4981 and she has decades of insider information from so many years of working for Logan.

😂 one of whom has a file of dick pics sent from Romans phone. 😊

😂 that would be such a lazy plot. Greg is the dark horse. It's rather the opposite. And they keep on saying that this is a king Lear adaptation so I think it's pretty likely someone ends in jail.

Greg is the worst and it's so annoying how he is always inserting himself into other people's conversations and making stupid comments. I have never understood the appeal of Greg.

Would love to see Gregg Egg wind up in jail

@@samanthab1923 yes please! He's the worst!

@@annejohnson5875 Isn’t he? Everytime I turn around I see him & think why is Greg there?

Shiv is also the most self righteous out of all of them and she is the one who backstabs in the most hurtful way as a sibling and as a daughter.

Almost like you refused to watch the video before adding your comment! 😜

not true on Roman. Remember going against the Turkish deal when other senior experts supported it? And Logan sided with Roman. As he did again on Vaulter, Mencken, courting Mattson, etc. Roman doesn't have experience but his instincts are spot on.

Shiv definitely has her father’s venom but while I agree that she does listen to people from time to time, I don’t think her place in her Waystar. I can see her thrive somewhere else (she was working on her own thing in the beginning before her dad lured her back in)

​@Trevor Distance turns out matson won't do shit because he's total bullshit

He’s bi-something lmfao

@maxwesty eh, hell never see any consequences for all the other horrible stuff he’s done so I don’t mind him getting fucked over some shit he didn’t have that much control over

​@maxwesty covering it up was a crime

Well played

Gerri will never back Shiv. Shiv is shitty towards Gerri. Karl hates Shiv. The old guard hates her as was reported early s3. Shiv being CEO will not fly. A voting member of the board maybe and maybe PGM but with a leadership oversight. Shiv is a strategist, not a leader.

@@dee3318 Pls explain for me, if you may

Shiv is a fence sitter , and fence sitters can never be leaders. She can’t win

Long term nobody needs the old guard, they are definitely needed short term but not long. Karl and Frank just want this deal finalized so they can get the golden parachute and retire. Shiv's best play in my opinion is to get into a relationship with Mattson (he clearly seems interested). If she married Mattson the two of them would have so many shares of the combined GoJo Waystar that they would be calling all the shots.

Ia. I was worried for Kendall initially but Roman is unraveling. He doesn't really have anyone anymore either.

Same! I was initially worried about Kendall but now Roman seems like a ticking time bomb 😢

i've given this some thought. no way that roman will die...would be too depressing for fans and human beings in general.

Agree. Ken will sit on a throne of meaninglessness after he "wins" but tanks Waystar in doing so.

He can be the head of whatever will be left of Royco. The tragedy in it is that he will be a broken man, not anymore a boy. He will have fully embraced his coldness and act without Amy moral compass. He will not have time for his kids, estranged from Shiv and maybe Connor. Maybe only Roman will be there with him, the slime puppy. Thats the sad part. Money wins as Logan says. One's humanity doesn't count

Nah Kendall is the only one actual thinking of innovative ideas to grow revenue streams and kill the deal which is the most important part

@@aitothechamp7263 Not with his mental health falling apart all the time. He was super manic this last episode, he can’t sustain that without melting down. He may seem like a genius but he poses lol.

@@RettyBoop - The reason why his mental health fell apart was because of his father, his father is not there to undermine him.... it can go both ways but I am betting that Ken out of the 3 is the most business savvy.

​@@aitothechamp7263 He didn't come up with anything innovative. He fabricated a pile of BS ala WeWork by packaging an extended care facility for the elderly as "tech." That house of cards will fall fast - likely in the next episode. The edited Logan footage & fudged financial projections = investor fraud.

This season has all been within the span of like a week or so (maybe less). For Tom to be named CEO in the finale, I don't think most viewers would be all that thrilled by that. All I know is, the finale is supposed to be longer than usual, I think its almost 90 minutes or more, so we're in for some fireworks!

He’s letting Roman set himself up for failure.

@@BeastReview 100%

Meh, What was the acronym they used for people they didn't care about? Basically an "NPC" type of character. I really don't think this is gonna factor into the final episodes.

Thank you! And have you seen next week trailer!? One thing we do know about succession is that the one who ends up smiling in one episode crushes in the next.

Kendall definitely gave me the vibe that he was on some sort of substance. I'm not a drug user - so I don't really know what a rich person like him would be using. High end coke or something like that?

​@@BartScantlin I'm thinking coke

I think the "went well" is referring to the presentation (not the entire episode), especially Ken's response that got Matsson to delete his tweet. Nobody had any confidence in Ken before he went on that stage. Roman backs out, Karl threatens him, etc. By the end of it, he's sold the idea Royco is going to offer eternal life...without actually promising eternal life.

I hate Gerri

Absolutely not. None of the Roy children are qualified to be CEO. Shiv - IMO - has the best shot at becoming qualified if she mentored under Gerri as CEO for at least a few years.

Because CEO are liars who suck at negotiating and don't listen to anyone 😂

Shiv doesn’t have any high level experience on her resume to be the CEO.

The board has to vote for ceo. Greg will never get the vote.

I cannot stand Greg! I can't stand his fake bumbling act, and it was him who leaked the news of Logan's death before it was publicly announced. I hope he can't even get a job as a costumed character in one of their parks when all is said and done. Greg is the worst!

@@annejohnson5875 he’s just playing the game which most people should to be fair like eat or get eaten

@Ace of Spades then I hope he gets devoured! He's a scammer with an innocent act. I don't like him at all and I never did, and could never understand his popularity.

It is

She’s the most egotistical but least qualified

Nahhh shiv is ass and deserved tom stabbing her in the back

She’s a snake !

I want that to be true, because I've long been pulling for Roman. But I don't think it is true. I think Kendall wins, in the end, but Waystar tanks. Ken will sit on his hollow throne, finally taking his dad's place in the wreckage of everything his dad built.

I would be very surprised off that happened. They keep showing that Roman is very close to crumbling after his dad passing away. He’s firing people left and right out of pettiness and in a desperate attempt to do exactly what his dad would do wether it’s right or not. Like firing Gerri. I keep waiting for Kendall to screw up as usual but I’m pretty sure Roman won’t be the one on top in the end. I also think ending up ceo is not the prize they all seem to think. If I were one of Logan’s kids I would want to be as far away as possible

Rom and Kendall are both doomed.

Romans problem is he needs to stop telling everyone that is what dad would do. Roman needs to find out who Roman is. Roman has talent, he understands people. He showed good instincts for example at Vaulter when he got the employees drunk and found out they were going to unionize. When he came back from being held hostage Roman showed good instincts again when he told Logan the offer was not real. That Roman MIA and he has been replaced by somebody trying to be Logan.

My thoughts exactly! I copy&paste from another post I made about it : I wholeheartedly disagree on your take on Roman. Roman's mannerisms show feelings but his decisions have always been based on instinct and he’s extremely good at sizing up others through conversation. (Vaulter, Mencken, the Turkish deal, all matters Logan sided with him on). Check the scene again with Joy, Roman’s there to ask about the "shitshow" and she proceeds to blow him off with it's "complicated"? "shall we sidebar that?", "big personalities"? Replying to her current CEO's "I have thoughts" with "Oh, everybody does!" Roman notices all these red flags but decides to stick to business nevertheless. But then on her turn she gets to question the CEO's policy on Mencken, as if they're equals here? (“Oh you want me to say more things!”). Roman still sticks to business telling her he’ll throw millions her way for blockbuster hits. BTW, why would a "minding the shop" co-CEO of a company soon to be sold for parts commit to that? That should tip her off on his intentions to stay but she replies with a dry "Very exciting". No further thoughts or plans for those future goals cause she clearly treats him as a temporary CEO. Roman notices, pauses there for a second, then humbles himself, in his effort to get her to talk more openly and she interrupts him actually with "I'm sure you are where you are for a very good reason" and a smirk. Joy fired herself. Roman was in total control of the conversation and has all the legitimate reasons to fire her based on her blowing him off here, he can easily claim Joy misused or even embezzled millions of dollars for that new movie. Gerri’s upset with Joy being fired, saying whatever about HR and legal consultation, only because she doesn't want anything upsetting the Mattson apple cart, the old guard is guarding their golden parachutes at this point, cause they want out. Don't blindly believe everything they're saying. And if there ever was a sweet time to take out the old guard one by one in an effort to blow the deal and remain CEO, it’s right here starting with Gerri. Also Roman wisely distanced himself from Kendall. Kendall's short term victory will most probably backfire because he cooked the numbers and altered his father's video, misguiding investors. Roman knows but can easily claim deniability especially since he didn't join him on the presentation and left the “celebration” early. That would leave him the sole CEO. Roman's moves were genius. And that last scene shows he's slowly accepting getting out of his dad’s shadow (also getting psychological release by being talked down, what he used to get both from his father and Gerri!). Actually I’m more convinced now than ever that Roman will be Logan’s successor, Kendall will end up dead or in jail or in rehab, and Shiv, well I want to hope she’s the one that finds satisfaction in life through Tom, but I doubt it.

How could Tom possibly take the top spot? I don't see the path.

@@dashx1103 only if Ken is killed for lying about the numbers/the dead waiter story comes out, Roman killed for his inappropriate behavior with Gerri then firing her, and Shiv decides to puppet Tom since she is pregnant and doesn’t have the resume to get the votes. I don’t really think it will happen either, but this episode just raised him to the level of at least being a player on the board if he teams back up with Shiv while maintaining his backbone.

Well u r missing out

I actually think this is bound to happen. Their common goal will align. I do see Kendall slowly emerging as the one to lead. With the investors and the board approving Ken, they may follow a V formation. After all, Logan has stressed the , " family Siobhan" enough

Indeed!

Yup, the robot 🤖 moves.

He’s not even trolling, he’s just stringing buzzwords together to seem hip, and he even believes what he says (until any trace of blowback, when he’ll abandon these ideas at a glance)

@@TanigakisAsscheeks he wasn’t even really doing that. He’s more politically conservative.