Sucker Punch Defense | The BJJ Answer! 

Although I agree with you, I think he's talking about the sucker punch that happens when 2 people are in an argument face to face and things are getting heated. Like that 1st punch the person throws without stating he wants to fight. I guess as the defender, when someone steps up to your face like that, you just gotta get in that ready position

Torgo The defence against a sucker punch is don't be a sucker! In this case it means: (1) Don't let them get within striking range by keeping your distance (2) Keep your eyes on them at all times and watch for intentions so you're less likely to be surprised (3) Keep your hands up so you can block in time when necessary The rest of the defence is a way to counter a haymaker.

I completely disagree. A sucker punch is any punch thrown that doens't come from a 'fighting ready position'.

Any time somebody starts a fight or an assault by sneaking you or trying to sneak you with a punch it's a sucker punch.

good point man! thanks for that tip! really helpful

+loahnuh a little tip the more submission you display the more people will want to fuck with you. Nothing wrong with showing a little aggression if it doesn't defuse the fight at least you're preventing future fights.

+Sousuke Aizen I don't know anything about you, and we can only speak from our own experiences and training, but acting aggressively in a situation like this nearly guarantees that you are going to get into a fight. Matching aggression with aggression almost always escalates a situation. So what if the guy continues to mess with you, if he's such an insecure prick that he's bullying you then leave or find someone like a bouncer or bartender who are legally empowered to make the guy leave. First rule of self-defense I've learned, don't get into a fight, no one wins when you do, you'll probably either get hurt, end up in the back of a police cruiser, or both. If that sounds weird to anybody reading this remember, I'm talking about self-defense, that is defending yourself, which is rarely achieved by acting as a macho superhero.

loahnuh Believe me, i live in a war zone i know exactly what i'm saying the best way to never get into fight is to be humble yet make it clear that people should not mess with you. Acting cocky will give birth to hatred and jealousy and yes they will try to bring you down, however acting submissive will 100% make you a target practice of anyone who want to *feel strong*. Here is what i mean by showing a little aggression: let's assume somebody is here trash talking me, i won't speak i won't insult i won't respond but the moment he comes to my arms reach i will clobber him and leave.

To add; And always say something to the effedct of "I don't want any trouble' or 'I really don't want to fight you'. Always loud enough for witnesses to hear.

OceanKing6725 I agree 💯. Most sucker punches that I've seen were cheap shots that came from the side or the rear of the defender.

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Suburbannite I would say a sucker punch is one you dont expect, or worse, one you dont see.

I would have agreed with you, except for the fact that it would have made for a much shorter video. And less helpful.

If they are, there’s no defense unless you have eyes on the back of your head or spidey senses or whatever.

Yeah, to get the most leverage you can out of the throw it is. The further up your lower back your opponent is when you're throwing him the better

Flaring the nostrils and having a slight erection seems essential.

Lmao

had to put

BJJ not known for defence against multiple

Michael Sweet Yes you can. Its a situation where he probably wont hit you, but you prepare for if he does. You can always prepare for things that might happen.

Michael Sweet I worked security at a bar for over a year. you can tell when somebody is about to sucker punch you. I always talked with my hands (to keep them up in front) when I wasn't sure of said person's intentions. it's being mentally ready to block a punch, is the most important thing.

Jesse Roberts that is tru, but as security you've probably been trained to keep your hand in front when dealing with a questionable person..? But generally speaking the sucker who gets punched doesn't have a chance of anticipating get'n hit or have any idea when its gonna happen! Thats why its called a sukr punch... The person throwing the punch is not the sucker, the unaware person is always bro!

Michael Sweet - I would say the person throwing the cowerdly first unexpected punch is definitley the 'sucker'

his arm is under-hooked it's isolated and his forehead is under chin there is no leverage to grab.

I like this comment. Its just a microcosm of society. "I saw a youtube video of something so it must be true everywhere." I honestly hope you get jumped by some other group of people that aren't black. Not because I hate you, but so you can see that your "facts" are bullshit, first hand, in the face. You should be fine however, as far as I know not many ass kickings end in death.

There is a greater clan mentality . Happens when you discriminate against a population, brings them together being that we are so different according to you, we stand next to our brothers. You hit one, they all come at you. Sort of like racists behind Trump, they coming out of the wood work en mass.

get a clue Mendoza, its the commies and socialists and their friends in the "progressive" movement that seek to divide America into warring groups don't buy the BS, Trump supporters are the least racist group you could find.

what's preemptive striking mean?

neettim basically hitting people before they hit you. Like a power slap for example. It's Important to keep hands open and not in a fist so it looks like self defense. If you can give several warnings beforehand you shouldn't have any legal trouble. With that being said it is very situational, as is everything. The concept behind it is don't wait for someone to hit you before you fight back.This puts you at an extreme disadvantage.

Sean 556x45 oh gotcha, thanks!

Sean 556x45 I agree with the concept of the preemptive strike, but it applies better when you actually know someone is going to attack. A sucker punch is different. You don't know when or where it's going to happen.

Only problem is I guarantee you've never trained what you're saying. You can't know if something you've never trained is effective. Poking the eyes should be effective, but what if the guy then tackles you to the ground? Groin shots are often NOT effective. Especially if the guy is drunk or high. It's pretty annoying seeing someone like you on all of these videos, going on about kung fu and poking the eyes. Strikes to soft targets are a great start, but they are not a replacement for actual sparring and training with full resistance.

thelister4910 I have no BJJ training. In similar situations, having seen the punch coming, I've ducked, stepped to an angle and countered with a flurry of punches to the body, jaw, anything I could. Real fighting isn't highly technical. Too many variables. Even if one or both are trained, it turns to a brawl. As others have said, a true sucker punch won't be seen. The best defense is to maintain your reactionary gap.

Michael C. What you just said about ducking the punch cutting the angle and countering with your own punches is a great option. One on one street fights turn into brawls if the skill level of the opponents is similar. If one has good technique and the other has none, it looks much more technical.

Exactly my point Michael, if you train to hit the nuts,windpipe and eyes from day one, you don't even need to think about it. Hit once, fight is over. You wanna tell me lister that if i hit you on all these pressure points you are gonna keep fighting? Sigh, this isn't mma or ufc, we are talking about street fight. You are not fucking superman. The strongest man in the world can't take these hits, yet alone an experienced fighter

-SakiSkai- Yes buddy, they can. I've seen it that's my point. And the thing is you aren't even training hitting those targets. You are kicking cups, goggles etc if you are trying to train it at all. This is the equivalent of training for a knockout punch by hitting the heavy bag every day, and never sparring and never once hitting someone in the face. You will never know if your strike will be effective, because you have never once spear handed someone in the eyes let alone lots of people to see it work consistency. I've seen guys on the street take extremely hard shots to the groin, I've seen them punched in the throat and they WILL keep coming. The only time someone tried to eye jab someone in front of me he got one eye, which threw the guy into a rage so he tackled the guy to the ground and started beating the shit out of him. Soft target strikes are a good tool to use but the fact that you think only superman can withstand them and that the "strongest guys" will immediately crumble to them shows how little you train and how you really aren't prepared for an actual fight.

stay relaxed and aware. listen intently and memorize your surroundings.

carry some advil.

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Only if the person/attacker is armed. Even then, you draw but don't shoot unless they look like they're going to. A gun is a great self defense tool, but only use lethal force when absolutely required.

yea this happens everyday it's so effective. When I go to the bar, park, work and bank. Hell yea swing at me Bam Bam...

daymn - thats juicy

Any shitty kung fu elbow attack like that will result in a standing triangle choke. That's one of the of reasons no one takes kung fu seriously, yet everyone in MMA uses bjj...

so your superb art of striking will allow you to break a seasoned grapplers clinch... go to a gym any mma/bjj gym and actually practice against people with real pressure GL. The difference from bjj and your art they spar at 100% 3-5 times a week.

Yeah, and the last guy I saw that tried that ended up choked out. Hell, there are videos on youtube of guys getting put into Triangle choke holds who were trying your little fancy move, and they passed out really quick.

Block, PUSH, RUN!

Randy Tipton but you have the element of surprise on your side

Not Telling ...While I have little experience with BJJ, I'm a black belt in TKD and Kempo. I have been thrown this way, and performed this throw more times than I can count. Not saying it doesn't work, just saying it can be easily countered. As for having surprise on your side, I wouldn't count on it. Also, if you go to the ground with the attacker, expect his buddies to be there to kick the crap out of you while your maneuvering for position. There are better alternatives....

Not Telling guess we will have the agree to disagree.

if he properly slams you to the concrete, I guess he won't be anymore in the mood to keep continue fighting... I do judo and I assure you, it is not comfortable.

then ribs snap or he he has the wind knocked out of him because he didn't use his arms to break fall. When people panic and wrap their arms around us... we know we and we make it worse for you.

It's a simple form of koshi nage, which is by no means a bad technique in of it self. You naturally have to adapt your approach to the situation: a small person would not want to do this against a large person, which brings me to my biggest gripe with this demonstration: there's no kuzushi. First time he does the throw, the tori has a straight back, his balance has not been broken, which would make the throw nigh impossible to do on a resisting opponent. The second time he uses a headbutt as a form of atemi, which could work as a form of distraction and kuzushi as the upper body would most likely go backwards. This being said, it's a really big movement, and can be countered by tori lowering his weight. Since the left hand is not controlled either it invites the possibility of being dragged down, and possibly with your head into the ground, as you also describe. I could also possibly see a counter during the step in of the uke for the throw. I know I've done similar counters during training when my partner has tried to go for a throw with a big movement. If it was me, and we're talking within the what-if scope here, assuming that I'd be given the oppurtunity to do this, and especially if I had to face someone taller and heavier than me, I'd lock tori's right arm as he swings, strike up against the chin with my right for kuzushi, grab tori's left lapel with my right and push his shoulder back slightly to prevent any follow-up punch and also prevent a grab, *then* do the step in and throw. That being said, it would just be simpler to do an osoto gake at that point since toris balance would be backwards anyway.

Kodain Kiwrath Finally, somebody who has not downed the KoolAid. Thank you. Yes, to not get kuzushi is a total failure for a supposed jujitsu. They do teach breaking structure in BJJ so I guess the demo was not that good anyway. Better yet than your lapel grab (which doesn't really do any disruption in itself and is a grab (arrggh! see my point that grappling invites being moved by and stuck to the enemy)) why not hit the side of the neck and then slip straight into the throw, bicep-slamming/hooking his neck? or bypass that and go straight for the hook, rabbit punching him and then hooking? Right arm and shoulder clears and covers from his left all the way. And needless to say you don't have to be so nice as to knee drop on him... if multiples with weapons threaten then spiking him on his head can kill. I prefer to flow with his punch to do a throw, which would be real aikijujitsu [don't any of the MMA BJJ BBs ever train that, considering how often big bombs are thrown in the UFC?], or just blasting with palms, headbutts, shoulders etc. and "shredding" [clawing around/in the eyes] and cranking his neck with forward drive with maybe a knee or ko/o/soto/uchigaki/gari [trips!]. THAT works for any undersized but trained person, little strength required.

Have a bigger tank

go for BJJ or Judo classes, man, and you`ll know what to do ;)