Sudoku Experts Play 'The Looker': A Parody Of The Witness

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We absolutely loved playing through The Witness and viewers have recommended a game called The Looker to us - which apparently is a homage to Jonathan Blow's masterpiece. The game is available free on Steam at the link below.
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@faykguru Год назад

cyber952: "I asked an audio engineer once how to make audio work consistently and he said he had the answer in the back and he left and I never saw him again."

@CarolynDesign Год назад

With the puzzle that gave you so much trouble, the "beeps" were acting like a metal detector. Slower and quieter the further you were from the solution, louder and more frequent the closer you got. The invisible end was always in that spot, you had just never drawn a line actually connecting that exact spot to the start.

@tiffanymurtland2804 Год назад

Yup and the walls not affecting proximity is what really got him. I ended up skipping most of that puzzle watching it today.

@Joseph_Drew_III Год назад

They need to see these comments

@AdrianWoodUK Год назад

26:29 - Why? Because this was the first time you'd actually drawn a line between the start and the (invisible) end. You scribbled all over the right place before, but didn't actually have a route through the maze linking it to the start!

@frederf3227 Год назад

One important habit of puzzle games is they usually teach you purposefully. If something seems unnaturally easy consider that it may be introducing a concept. E.g. connecting S to E was easy. It's teaching that S connect E is an acceptable form of Start connect End. Everything is information. If it gives you an odd feeling, reflect.

@JasperJanssen Год назад

The concept of “tutorial levels” seems to have completely passed both of them by. Which, you know, even sudoku has them…

@Steve_The_Weave 8 месяцев назад

Super Mario games are a master class in this although they aren’t puzzles they hide the tutorials well

@houligan5254 Год назад

The beeps were like a game of hotter / colder. The louder the Beep the closer you are. The end isn't shown but you need to hit it with a continuous line from the start. Which is why when you "colored the whole grid in" it didn't work, because there were actually breaks in the line.

@ThePeanutRocksta Год назад

15mins of pre-stream set-up, and/or the presence of a computer savvy mod and you'd be golden, love these streams anyway!

@SirExal Год назад

Everyone's talking about the beeping and puzzle skips--but the amazing one is that he satisfies the critic in only six tries! (38:40)

@ArkanoidZero Год назад

I got really lucky on my playthrough and got it second try, which is good for speedruns I guess but made me disappointed that I missed experiencing the whole thing for myself.

@crazy338866 Год назад

I somehow satisfied the critic by drawing a star. I had no idea the solution was "three loops."

@RichSmith77 Год назад

Am I mistaken, or did Simon solve the one of the early hard door puzzles in The Witness before finding the tutorial puzzles? Some things never change. 😂

@krtwood Год назад

Simon's life is basically being confronted by puzzles that look like you couldn't possibly have enough information to solve them and then solving them. Where 99% of people would immediately think " I'm not supposed to know how to do this yet"and move along, Simon thinks this is where he is supposed to be. And I suppose it is where he is supposed to be, because he succeeds.

@RichSmith77 Год назад

@@krtwood So true. 🙂

@highpath4776 Год назад

there doesnt seem to be a clear path to the puzzle that should be solved next

@BarryKort Год назад

Simon bypassed the Toppled Chess King Puzzle, the Pagoda Puzzle, and the Hedge Maze Puzzles. The exercises in the center in the Hedge Maze Puzzle are there to teach the player what Simon insightfully guessed about the shapes and sequences to open the last door to the uppermost balcony. Thus he ended the game before solving three significant passages in a 100% Completion game play.

@highpath4776 Год назад

@@BarryKort Did some of the philisophical insights have anything to do with (solving) clues.

@colemanhansen206 Год назад

All there is in the hedge maze is a way to practice the vertices logic for the later puzzle you solved on your own.

@LorisLaboratory Год назад

That was a ton of fun, and that ending... XD Thank you for sharing it with us!

@spifariffic Год назад

I understood the beep puzzle immediately (sonar style, but still needed to connect that spot to 'start'), but I never would have figured out the shapes puzzle or to check the back of one of the signs. Interesting how different minds work 😁

@Showsni Год назад

The maze has a series of puzzles that teach you the shape mechanic, so you'd have learnt how to do that one.

@paulmaglio9254 Год назад

I went from "this is the most pointless thing in the world" to "hey, Simon is loosing his mind" to "that was a lot of fun to watch!" Thanks for the entertainment, I really enjoyed this one.

@JaggerG 5 месяцев назад

The stupidity is utterly genius.

@wesplybon9510 Год назад

Me as Simon finishes the last shape: I wonder if Simon realizes what he just drew... doesn't seem like it... wait for it... wait for it... 🤣🤣

@sebastiancruxian6518 Год назад

OMG. At the end I was wondering, did Simon just draw the strongest shape?

@jussikuusela7345 Год назад

The Witness carries some serious resemblance to Myst. The puzzles in myst sometimes take a lot of running around and checking, which is lesser in The Witness to get just the core stuff done. Myst also has a parody done of it, Pyst.

@buschcory Год назад

Thanks Simon! Loved seeing you play through. You missed a couple good laughs but got most of them =)

@randomvideoguy3340 Год назад

Yes! Thanks for playing this

@vega1349 Год назад

Wow, that was...something. I love how seriously you took this too!

@andrewcook8093 Год назад

I laughed at the Braid reference. Time reversed and undress the line!

@theunamiable Год назад

Just like the Witness, I'm going to try the game myself and come back to the video. Which reminds me there is still that one puzzle I never did solve in the original. (It was in the Japanese garden room, not to mention a whole lot of things scattered about the environment.)

@shaykrethashke1483 Год назад

Simon, nice to see you play puzzle games again, i feel i missed your logic solving approach of problems since the witness, and even this game here is fun, it just reminds me that there is no more challenge for you in these type of games! and that is very sad! maybe you should consider 'the talos principle' which is a lazer puzzle game with a real challenge! how will you setup lasers and mirrors and piling boxes and matching beam colors to reach the target and open next door? many possible combinations with the given parts you have just in the need of a professional problem solver! 👍💪

@terry9819 Год назад

If you're looking for other games to try I'd recommend Quern - Undying Thoughts, it's the best puzzle game I've played since The Witness. Another suggestion is The Talos Principle.

@VeritasUnae Год назад

I think Talos would be very difficult with Simon's nausea, even though I think they would definitely enjoy it.

@bunnyfoofoo1496 Год назад

Check to see if OBS is capturing game audio, mic audio, and your headset audio that Mark is talking to you through.

@carasynthiadune9842 Год назад

The first puzzle is how to unmute Mark. And you didn't solve it.....

@emilywilliams3237 Год назад

I am doing the channel offerings tonight in the reverse order that they seem to have been released. First, the first part of this stream after the fact (could not manage it live), then Mark's GAS video, then the finish of this stream, and soon I will go back to watch Simon's video, at least the first part of it. This looked like a bit of an easy game, but in watching the live chat replay it seems as if people enjoyed watching it. To me, one of the big pleasures of the live streams is having both of you active and audible in the same video, since the vast majority of the channel is each of you separately. So Mark's audio not working was disappointing from that standpoint. I also am quite sad that so many people seem not to be able to refrain from either advice or outright spoilers in the chat. I remember when my son was 5 years old I had to play Nintendo games after he had gone to bed so that he would not be able to tell me how to do it - he could not keep himself from it, but he was just a child. I look forward to everything you put on the channel - thanks for the fun. (Oh I also applaud your not making a major deal out of that last image, and I will say that most of the chatters did not go overboard, either. For you UK people this stream is pretty late for youngsters to be watching, so hopefully the parent would know what was going to come and be ready to either explain or divert the attention of a child from any inappropriate content. But it is not too late for youngsters in my part of the globe, so I do appreciate your keeping a lid on most of the PG-13 content. Not that I have any youngsters at hand these days, but I know you understand the principle of the thing.)

@spootot Год назад

I played this game just the other day and had a quite good time

@jessevennard2640 Год назад

😂😂 when Alexa turned on after beep 😂😂

@juggernaut93 Год назад

Damn, my phone sent me the notification too late! Oh well, I guess I'll watch the recording :)

@davidcolburn73 Год назад

Hello Simon and Mark, Long time viewer! I love letting your suduko videos play in the background as I solve, so I can see whether I can beat you (although when I do, I'm sure it's because you spend time thoroughly explaining everything!) I have a game for you to try; it's called The Forbidden City. I saw your Obra Dinn video, and this game is similar in that you go around talking to characters to piece things together. Would love to see you play it!

@jacklinton4885 Год назад

The puzzle side of it would be excellent, but there's waaaaay too much up and down stairs in that one for Simon unforunately

@takysoft 6 месяцев назад

I love these video game streams :D

@MisuVir Год назад

Why does nobody ever go backwards at the start, even those who have already played The Witness? Missed getting a health upgrade. ;)

@DuncanBooth Год назад

I did, I played most of this in the days after the stream was announced and yes the first thing I did at the start was turn round and look behind me.

@Tombsar Год назад

First thing I did! Then accidentally quit to desktop by drawing on the panel there. XD

@grumpybear5874 Год назад

Love you guys, but very disappointed that you didnt spend some more time trying to sort out Marks sound, Simon you just seemed to rush to get going, there were tons of people in chat who could have helped.

@DarkD112 Год назад

Strange how you solved the hardest puzzle in the game without even needing the optional tutorial puzzles, but the super easy "beep" one took you forever... I didn't even know the maze was optional and that there was an actual logic to that damn thing...

@ProIndy8 Год назад

I really love these videos where you play games. I have a suggestion about a puzzle game you could play. It's calles 7 Billion Humans. It's available on Steam. I found it myself just couple of days ago. I would enjoy watching that. :)

@Nightknight1992 Год назад

kinda sad that mark neither got to comment on all that stuff nor get to hear the hilarious recordings :D

@willemkossen Год назад

That was a lot of fun to watch.

@josephrion3514 Год назад

Ponytail is a braid reference. Also did he slip on a banana peel and die at the end.

@prunabluepepper Год назад

If you have issues with sound, you can always use a mobile phone to listen in. Too can also use mobile to create either a group call via mobile, or via a messenger app and stream it as voice of the YT stream. Or, worst possible option, you listen to Mark on speakers while your own microphone is active. (If you can prevent resonance). There are plenty of options to fix a sound issue ^^

@madisonking8057 Год назад

Oh this was excellent

@TheMeanAdmin Год назад

Finding the end, but absolutely refusing to connect it to the beginning, Simon, you maybe beeping genius, but it clearly comes at cost of common sense >_

@Sullrosh Год назад

Line needs to be continuous in the beep puzzle

@longwaytotipperary Год назад

That was fun!!!!!

@AdrianWoodUK Год назад

43:34 - I felt very sorry here, because I'm pretty sure that's the intended solution, and it just didn't work. Either that or the version I played had a bug, because it's how I solved it!

@michaels4340 Год назад

It didn't work the first time I tried either! I spent an hour or two trying to hug the sides with perfectly straight lines so I could loop around the word "Start"... That was like self-inflicted torture :P

@RichSmith77 Год назад

Same. I cannot see why this failed for him. I was sure he'd got it, on just his second attempt too. (Surely it didn't fail because the line from "Start" bends to the S of start, and not the middle of the word? Similar for the E of "End". That would seem harsh and unfair.)

@RichSmith77 Год назад

@@michaels4340 Looping around the word "start" actually sounds like it could have been a better solution. I like it.

@AdrianWoodUK Год назад

@@RichSmith77 It's not even like the lines got close to each other. On a technical level, the game uses quite a coarse "grid" that you draw on, which then uses some clever rendering malarky to look like a much smoother drawn line, so it's easier than it seems to have lines cross-connect with each other, but looking at it to check, they're not even close. Inexplicable!

@CDCHexaku Год назад

@@AdrianWoodUK yeah this is especially apparent with Snek

@krtwood Год назад

I love that Simon's reaction to being stuck is laughter and he only gets frustrated with himself when he thinks he should have solved something more quickly. I hope you will try The Talos Principle sometime.

@Trollox Год назад

You should stream the game on discord for Mark so he can hear sound

@bbgun061 Год назад

You’ve really got to play Obduction on a stream!

@AdrianWoodUK Год назад

1:04:22 - Haha, you just completely skipped a chunk of the game! Amazing!

@ZoraZoldier Год назад

What was he supposed to have done there?

@krtwood Год назад

@@ZoraZoldier There was a puzzle on the bottom of the black king that would have activated the last line to unlock the gate. Inside the hedge maze there is a tutorial on how to solve that puzzle activated by the beam that Simon didn't need. So he didn't miss very much, and it was probably more fun for him to have done it the way that he did.

@Fyrefrye Год назад

The fact that he actually GUESSED the correct solution (count the points on each shape/number of sides and connect them in number order) is hilarious and a sign of how good he is at puzzles in general.

@highpath4776 Год назад

@@krtwood did the black king only fall after the chess game , there is lot of running back and forth to places you have been before, and what was it about the ghosts in the library etc they seemed to be pointless

@VeritasUnae Год назад

@@highpath4776 The running about, too, is a parody of the Witness itself, where often running up and down stairs is all part of trying to find the right angles for some puzzles. The ghost in the library I think perfectly sets up the player to be more cautious, thus leading to the comedy later of the illuminated knight with the halberd.

@samikalastaja 4 месяца назад

0:48:41 I love this part - simple and entertaining puzzle.

@rvoswald Год назад

This game is hilarious!!!

@reg-js4yw 7 месяцев назад

if you have to do anything like this again, a little Bonine and widening your field of vision in options helps a lot

@lynns3868 Год назад

You should make sure that Mark is heard before starting the stream.

@SirFries Год назад

The obelisk was a great ending

@sacredsock8031 Год назад

That beeep puzzle was painful to watch

@alexanderskladovski Год назад

Gameplay starts at 5:53

@michaelminner4905 Год назад

it's really kind of funny how someone with a very high intelligence doesn't let nonsense weigh on the plausible solution until there's no other option but to be ridiculous. *SAD BEEPING*

@victorribera5796 Год назад

I think there should have been another puzzle to get to the maze after the chess moves

@attention_shopping Год назад

26:00 the end is literally there, you never connected a line there

@Adrian_Grey Год назад

Simon, without doing any of the tutorials: "Maybe it's about the number of sides." Me, after doing all the tutorials and working out a list of all the shapes, and the order they have to go in: "Oh." 🤦

@Monolith-yb6yl Год назад

Pretty great parody

@attention_shopping Год назад

yay

@warren_r Год назад

16:00 - 26:00 has to be one of the most unbelievable displays of bone-headedness ever published on RU-vid. Whoever on chat pointed out that Simon was "going galaxy-brained on a children's menu map" nailed it.

@JRTJunk Год назад

I just don't understand. "Beep" when you get closer and "Invisible End." This shouldn't be hard. And even afterward he still doesn't get it.

@zmaj12321 Год назад

You haven't seen many youtube videos if you thought those ten minutes were bad.

@MisuVir Год назад

"on a children's menu map" is a fine choice of words given one of the puzzles that Simon skipped. :D

@highpath4776 Год назад

needs CTC to edit into a vid on its own for frustration level (and not leave in the final solve .,,!)

@fredriksandebert7450 Год назад

I enjoyed this more than The Witness.

@ollieknoxx Год назад

Guys - PLEASE play 'Braid'!!!!!!!!!!!! It's by the guy who made 'The Witness'! You'll love it! Great playthrough ty.

@propername4830 Год назад

Surely it's too platformer

@ollieknoxx Год назад

@@propername4830 Do they not ike platformers?

@propername4830 Год назад

@@ollieknoxx I'm not sure how many platformers Simon has played. I think he said he played a lot of Starcraft in the past though

@ollieknoxx Год назад

@@propername4830 It's not really a platformer though - there is no dexterity involved it's all mental puzzles

@JoostN86 Год назад

Why does he keep closing his eyes when going up or down stairs?

@or3213 Год назад

Simon gets vertigo when he does that in a first-person game.

@highpath4776 Год назад

what were the literally allusions

@tantricsarcasm9133 Год назад

Now I know what it sounds like when R2-D2 is having sex... I haven't laughed so much for a while, thanks!

@DontMockMySmock Год назад

i can't believe that simon got through the Snek puzzle way faster than me. the shame! i'm going to go commit sudoku

@maspleben Год назад

BEEP!

@linforcer Год назад

Pretty funny

@danielpalmer3177 Год назад

I can't see the game as it's to dark

@highpath4776 Год назад

Start of Game confuses me - There isnt an "anywhere" to click (clever parody of windows - press any key to continue)

@NumberJ42 Год назад

I can't believe he managed to brute force this parody game without even realizing it was a parody.

@martink.7497 4 месяца назад

People triggered in the chat that Simon trying to solve the puzzle and should go away, because he skipped the "tutorial" in the garden. Just needed 5 min to solve it lol. Light hint: in open world, you can solve puzzle in any order. Shame we did not hear Mark, and he could not hear the game, hope he watched the video, because those logs were brilliant.

@NickHollis21 Год назад

beep

@retrogamer3907 Год назад

Why did you mute John Higgins

@jussikuusela7345 Год назад

This is hilarious... and I think there is more to it... but it appears that it is only available in the pesky Steam service.

@Holdo23 Год назад

For a smart guy Simon can be painful to watch sometimes lol.

@Nathan511 Год назад

Beep

@cc_256 Год назад

I got triggered by the fact you didn't 'leave' the castle? did you miss the massive gate and 'real' maze outside of castle? xD

@krtwood Год назад

He only would have found the solution to solve that tricky puzzle activated by the beam out there, and he didn't need it.

@rupen42 Год назад

@@krtwood Some puzzles are their own reward.

@xsomeNOOBx Год назад

At around 20:00 this is infuriating to watch. There is one rule: connect the start to the end with a line, and for some reason this just stops being a concept.

@Marronii Год назад

the end was just invisible. But you heard where it was. Simon somhow just didn't get to connect the right spot quicker...

@highpath4776 Год назад

@@Marronii I suppose it was easy to note in the middle of the maze there were effectively three ends, one of them must have been the end to find

@theother1s220 Год назад

Why close your eyes when going up or down stairs? Seems unsafe to me. Is it a British superstition or something like that?

@VeritasUnae Год назад

Simon has motion sickness.

@NettoTakashi Год назад

This game took everything I loved about The Witness.... threw it in the trash, and laughed derisively at what remained. Mocking that game's pretentiousness in particular, by being even more pretentious. But, you know, "ironically." There were one or two decent puzzles, but most of them were either just trivial, or being intentionally opaque about their solutions. It took everything The Witness did wrong, and did it *worse,* while disregarding the things that game did right, or even treating them as a joke. I hated this game.

@NettoTakashi Год назад

Really, the "hints" on the title screen tell you all you need to know about this game, and how it relates to The Witness. The developer of this game has no respect for what The Witness was or did, and has created nothing of value, simply piggybacking off that game's success with a stupid joke version of it that treats everything unique about the original as something to be made fun of.

@propername4830 Год назад

@@NettoTakashi The "mockery" part fails to be true if you know that the game even has Gravity's Rainbow references. Like cause the game can be cheeky in places, so the developer coddles J-Blo in other places by way of referencing J-Blo's favourite novels. On the The Witness subreddit the developer also said that this was also made partially in tribute to the original game. So not trying to go all the way with mocking The Witness…just making fun of it, and also not having perfect puzzle or game design.