Super Soco TC MAX - First Ride! CBT Legal Electric Motorcycle!

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Here is my first ride of the Super Soco TC MAX 125cc equivalent CBT legal motorcycle.
I have this bike on loan from Super Soco for 2 weeks to use and test before I make a full review at the end. You may note I have not given a torque figure on this bike, the reason for this is SuperSoco only give a "motor torque" of 180Nm, clearly this is not what you see at the wheels.
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@brighty79 3 года назад

I’ve owned my TC Max for over a year now and commuted almost every day. I’m a big fan. I use the power settings like gears, keep it in 1 when In 30 zones or traffic, 2 for 40 zones then 3 for every thing else.

@simontritton4131 3 года назад

So can you change settings on the go ...like gears ? And as time goes by do you think speed or distance will become a problem with recharge.. and any ideas on new battery costs. Look really aggressive for an electric might look good with cut off alloy mudguards and off road tyres like the herald brat 125 ?

@brighty79 3 года назад

@@simontritton4131 yes you can but think of it as more of a speed limiter than gears... you won’t get up to speed quicker in 1 than 3. Haven’t looked at a battery recently, from memory one got offer to me for about £700 as an extra when I bought the bike. You can find some good modded examples out there. Speaking to a few on forums, where they have put bigger tyres on or off road tyres they see a drop in top end and range.

@owen8538 2 года назад

Has it been reliable what is mileage

@brighty79 2 года назад

@@owen8538 I can say it has been unfortunately. Support in the UK is hard work, dealer next to clueless hasn’t helped.

@owen8538 2 года назад

@@brighty79 it hasn't been you mean why

@mikemars38 2 года назад

Excellent videos , thanks for taking them time doing them , a must watch for anyone thinking of buying on , really useful info 👍

@maycrotch8576 3 года назад

I like the look of this bike. Very sleek. 🙂 86k subs is getting close now. 😉👍👍👍

@jennibgmailcom 2 года назад

Your video is what sold me on the bike.

@paulbudford 3 года назад

Looks like a fun bike. Can't ask for more than that.

@ronbot6426 2 года назад

Omg one day I will get this bike freaking love the style

@esk8jaimes 3 года назад

Love that Windows start-up music, hoping I can change that to some kinda Tron-like Light Cycle sound.

@Beagleman1996 3 года назад

Interestingly the Porsche you pulled up behind at the set of lights was a Taycan; an electric car...

@spicy110 3 года назад

....shame I don't know shit about cars 🤣

@davidh328 3 года назад

Love the fact Porsche stick a Turbo badge on it 😂

@hermanstokbrood 3 года назад

@@spicy110yeah probably the best electric car money can buy.

@majordelays4909 3 года назад

Thanks enjoying this. Horwin CR6 next....?

@esk8jaimes 3 года назад

Any chance you could review the previous TC model? It's more focused on range than top-speed and has Regen brakes too but there's barely any decent reviews from an experienced rider such as yourself. 🙏

@simontritton4131 3 года назад

Can you use public chargers at plug in points (as well as Asda and other stores) from the super soco Max's pin plug ?

@TheSpectre223 3 года назад

10:08 - mobile scrumping, aka grand theft apple

@SupermotoZach 3 года назад

🤣

@AJBAdventures 3 года назад

I'm sure commuters will want one if they live right in a city, but the attraction to bikes for me is the amazing sound they make, so no eleky bike for me but each to their own

@VMJSenpai 3 года назад

I don't know about you, man, but I honestly want switch-to-cancel indicators. Caught myself way too many times physically and visually checking whether or not my presses registered to cancel the indicators after a turn.

@crumblymal8479 3 года назад

Perfect for in town and commutes non motorway anywhere there is congestion perfect .Have you tried the Harley lightning that looks impressive ,are there anymore bigger bikes in electric as a matter of interest .Cheers : )

@spicy110 3 года назад

No but I would love to try the Harley! Super soco don't have anything big yet but I will be getting some big zeros next year!

@iandunipace 3 года назад

ive seen a video on utube where you can get more power out of these bikes. don't remember if it was for the lesser powered one. that would be interesting to see if it can go faster.

@stevetee7801 3 года назад

Do you think you can do an A1 on a tc Max?

@ProCrastiN8te 2 года назад

PULL PULL PULL......YEAAAAAAAA

@cdubbleyoo 3 года назад

I would like to see electric bikes of all type and range add a "pedestrian chime". Something separate from the horn that can alert peds.

@MrCrypticHD 3 года назад

Talking about indicators that bong.... My cbr125 that I bought the previous owner had a beeper installed now that's not a big issue I thought until I came to indicate down the road and sounded like a hgv reversing warning... Got that removed asap 😂

@HippoDrones 3 года назад

If I was after a bike to just commute on, I think an e-bike is def the way forward. Love the slow speed control on this, I bet it'd be ace for motogymkhana!

@spicy110 3 года назад

Not so sure on that one as the throttle is a little lagged off the mark

@HippoDrones 3 года назад

@@spicy110 ahh that is a shame... you did look more settled on it once at a fixed throttle on the circling you did

@TomPaur 3 года назад

it is 3kW or 5kW version?

@pasof 2 года назад

Hello. Thanks for the video. Have you had the chance to ride with the TC Max yet?

@spicy110 2 года назад

This is a TC Max!?

@philhunt9297 3 года назад

That's a motorway maintenance van - it wasn't indicating because they never do - that was probably a brake check the indicator only flashed because of the same issues as with the type of driver of said maintenance vehicles - there's a wiring short

@simonadams2083 2 года назад

Are you able to tell me what the switch on the right hand side does above the 123 mode numbers??

@spicy110 2 года назад

Answered in the review, when I go over the controls. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tAUvPXFfQUQ.html

@SupermotoZach 3 года назад

Videos look wayyyy better with the GoPro 🙂

@VivviStar02Playx 3 года назад

What max speed?

@blueboywill 3 года назад

Dude you need to review a Veteran Sherman. 120 mile range on a 3.2kwh battery, 53mph top speed, and I bought mine for less than £2k. I'll even lend you one of mine to test, I just want to get the word out!! 😅

@spicy110 3 года назад

You mean that one wheel thing? Can I ask how do you brake at 50mph? 🤣

@blueboywill 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-41NBrt4kbgk.html Here's deceleration from 30mph to 0 in 2.3 seconds ☺️

@jimbone9742 3 года назад

I do wonder that with electric bikes that as the battery gets older the range or distance will be reduced so having to charge more often.

@spicy110 3 года назад

There are regulation in place that mean the battery has to be up to a set standard for 3 years or the company must replace it. I don't know super soco's claims but zero say 200k miles and it will still have 80% of it's starting capacity. So really it's not that big of an issue if you look at most petrol bikes not going past 100k miles (sure many do and I bet most are just damaged rather than broken but you know what i mean) it's still early days anyway so in the future all these battery worries will be a thing of the past.

@chrisdavidson911 3 года назад

people were saying that when electric cars first kicked off, and they were absolutely fine, capacity didn't deplete anywhere near as much or as quickly as anyone thought it might. As with everything though - engines included - given enough abuse it will have problems sooner, and this mostly comes down to temperature management; if you keep getting it too hot you'll annoy it and the capacity will drop, if it's really cold and you ask too much of it before it's warmed up a bit, it can get all angry and try to set you on fire. Lithium batteries are what they are, it's removable so you can keep&charge it in the house/office, it'll have thermal management throttling while you're riding, it'll be fine. Nissan Leaf is having long-term reliability trouble in Australia due to inadequate cooling, that's the only problem i've heard of other than randomness of individual vehicle's reliability.

@andrewclemmit2042 2 года назад

I look after 30 EV's you can get 5 years out of batteries they do drop a little as time goes on.

@chrisdavidson911 3 года назад

so... i mean... if you can't press the indicator cancel button all the time... how have you not gone mad? Has it got a fidget spinner on the mirror stem instead?

@spicy110 3 года назад

It's a really struggle! 😁 (I too do the check its cancelled 50 times press press)

@jasewale 3 года назад

You’ve missed the key issue Spicy. Can you pull a wheelie on it! 😎

@spicy110 3 года назад

No 🤣

@jasewale 3 года назад

@@spicy110(Ahem) On private land of course

@jackladd4332 3 года назад

Valuable info mate i enjoyed that video. My Sinnis 125 RSX EFi vibrates a lot @ 65mph, i take it these electric bikes don't vibrate at all?

@erikyordanov7707 3 года назад

Correct

@jackladd4332 3 года назад

@@erikyordanov7707 Thank you wise master. Who asked you anyway? Come here saying "correct" to people and stealing all the glory. Have you ever ridden one?

@erikyordanov7707 3 года назад

@@jackladd4332 I had made my self an ebike (push bike) with 2kw hub motor No vibration at all and enough torque to almost do a wheelie just by opening the throttle (I'm 90kg with the bike around 25)

@jackladd4332 3 года назад

@@erikyordanov7707 thank you for eventually adding to the conversation but i see you have no experience and you wouldn't know anything about whether they vibrate @ 65mph. But interesting your comment was, thanks again.

@will_on2793 3 года назад

It doesn't have an engine rotating to cause vibrations so why would it vibrate?

@reggiegimmix9128 2 года назад

the problem with not having a lot of mileage means your going to need to charge almost everytime you use it just to make sure it is fully charged in case you actually need to go somewhere that needs the long range it has. So constantly charging compared to topping up when you need. Unless you are using it almost always for short rides then electric bikes still suffering from range anxiety just as Electric cars used to.

@spicy110 2 года назад

The thing is you buy the bike that suits you, this works for many people in cities and also older people who want a low-maintenance bike on hand to go to the shops, etc. Charging overnight is no bother and means it's always topped up. If you need a bike with more rage get one with more range but in the electrics with that range tend to be quite experienced it is true, and in these cases, petrol often wins atm. I have ridden many electric bikes are never really experienced range anxiety other than going to a charger and finding it's not working or it's too slow and then needing to get to another on what you have left.

@edinburghbiker689 3 года назад

Oooooo new gloves

@alexonwheels4190 3 года назад

It definitely looks better than the fxs zero

@twangerman4702 3 года назад

horn test?

@callumdean 3 года назад

No need to lol

@meganharris4751 3 года назад

is it me or did it sound like it struggled at max speed on the dual carriage way? i've no history with motorbikes and not really that interested in them. but, i've got an electric scooter (second one i've purchased) and looking at electric motorcycles.

@spicy110 3 года назад

There are more videos to see how you find the performance 👍 it's happy to sit at 60mph bit that's about top speed. Thing is electric bikes like this are not made to do those roads as it eats the batt. Around town is where it is strongest.

@focusmicro 3 года назад

That would bother me very much! (" nobody can hear me coming"). Stay safe!

@hermanstokbrood 3 года назад

Speed and bad behavior is the reason of accidents not the lack of sound.

@ConfusedRaccoon 3 года назад

I expect you'll need to be extra careful filtering as you won't have the engine sound for warning the cars.

@chrisdavidson911 3 года назад

doesn't make much difference, even with a moderately loud exhaust you're basically passing them by the time you're being heard, especially if they have the windows closed and radio on a bit

@ConfusedRaccoon 3 года назад

@@chrisdavidson911 Must be a biker thing then. I hear or see the bike coming from a few cars back and give a few extra inches if possible.

@LeeKirkman88 Год назад

sounds like a sport bike with the sound turned down lol

@davidmoyes726 3 года назад

I brought a ts 1200 and rode it for 100km and battery went out on it it’s been in for warranty for 2 years and no bike so I wouldn’t buy one ever again

@Ravan_Caw 3 года назад

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@Maxbooze 3 года назад

0:55 yep, i so wanted one of these for getting about town but saw it was made for hobbits. My grom had more room on it.

@megaady36 3 года назад

I so wish they'd make a 250 equivalent at a decent price point with a 100 mile range

@maycrotch8576 3 года назад

OTLU!!!!!!

@dimitrijmusiiatchenko Месяц назад

Hello! Need a rights for this motorcycle?

@spicy110 Месяц назад

Huh?

@dimitrijmusiiatchenko Месяц назад

@@spicy110 do you have to pass a test to ride this bike

@spicy110 Месяц назад

Yes a CBT

@TheBaseUK 3 года назад

Only 7hp for a license that can have up to 15? Surely not

@chiltano 3 года назад

Benelli tnt for £2000 or a 125cc equivalent (but less powerful) electric for £4500. This ain't it chief. Lower range, lower power, normally comes on deadly Chinese tyres and twice as expensive.

@jackladd4332 3 года назад

Fair point mate. Watch the chinese start selling electric bikes @ 2 grand, and good for the chinese. Just goes to show how much we're being ripped off. 2 grand for the bike + 2 grand for a Yamaha sticker. Buy chinese and force them to stop scamming us. Outside of china the bike market is rigged. Bout time we showed em. Honda and the others don't care about you. Stop being faithful to people who are taking the mickey out of you.

@chiltano 3 года назад

@@jackladd4332 To be fair, you can definitely tell the difference in manufacturing quality between the Japanese and Chinese bikes (albeit this is on switchgear like the indicator button and the frame, tyres and engine components). That being said, I have to agree and say I don't know where the 2 grand difference comes from. Especially when you look at say a ybr125 and the yzf125. You're paying an extra grand over the ybr for some fairing on the yzf. I've owned a benelli tnt and serviced it myself for a year with oil and filter, I did 9k without a 'proper' workshop service and it never broke down. I test Rode the earlier version of this super soco too and I stood on the pegs to adjust my gentleman's tackle and I heard a crack from the foot peg like they were made out of the cheapest material. I also nearly lost the front at the first roundabout I came to because of these cheap Chinese tyres and ive never felt so unsafe on such an underpowered machine. I had to ride in the gutter because it couldn't accelerate up the slightest of gradients. This was on a 40mph road.

@sidderssidley1163 3 года назад

ha ha - races with fastest electric Porsche EV! :)

@fredblogsmac.5697 3 года назад

most important is, near-empty to running out..

@michaelgoodwin4083 3 года назад

Yay let's go and trade in my bike for this. At that price I'd be buying my full bike and licence. Money is stupid and no 17-18 years old will afford this.

@spicy110 3 года назад

You know lots of 125cc bikes cost more? like yzf125CC is near on 5k, besides who said its only for 17-18 year olds? just saying

@michaelgoodwin4083 3 года назад

@@spicy110 yeah and I wouldn't be buying a yzf125 for a 125 if I had any sense either. It's just too much cost for any normal person. I personally can't afford that type of cash to be eco efficient.

@michaelgoodwin4083 3 года назад

@@spicy110 its also very slow and I wouldn't really want to take it on the bypass at them speeds unless you can unlock different power modes but then the battery wouldn't last from mine to my Mrs House so once again another let down point and I'm out in the countryside so no electricity points anywhere near me.

@Thechist781 Год назад

I don’t think this vehicle would be useful to me. Besides commuting I would need it to go someplace far what this little machine is not up to the job. It only would serve if you have a second Petrol powered vehicle to cover for all those kind of jobs.

@wg4404 2 года назад

60mi/h = 96.5606km/h

@tmfrs2 Год назад

Bikes made for city limits where the max speed is 50-70, it’s not exactly made for motorways

@paulfoster742 3 года назад

Take it down the green lanes

@atlanticsquib7232 Год назад

You’ll get 60 mile range at 30mph Even less range at higher speeds You can’t hit 70mph (on fuel powered 125’s you can) You’ll be spending more time waiting for these things to charge than you will ever riding them. Don’t bother. Get an electric bicycle. Electric motorbike tech ain’t ready yet. If you want a motorbike, get a fuel powered one. I can probably get a good 100miles out of my Z125. Probably more if I keep it low revs. and I can go 70mph and I’m pretty sure it’s similarly priced. These Emotorbikes ARENT WORTH IT!

@spicy110 Год назад

How many you ridden?

@atlanticsquib7232 Год назад

@@spicy110 I’ve rode somebody else’s once. I’ve got no complaints with how they ride! They ride fine and they feel very different! But these are way more just a rich kids toy than anything else. They’re inconvenient as hell. Give it 5 years before these are really worth getting. It’s not like 125’s are fuel hungry monsters anyways. The pro’s of these electric motorbikes are just severely outweighed by the cons. Only situation I could see where it would be worth owning an electric 125 is if you lived in a super hot climate AND a busy city

@danseymour9414 2 года назад

666

@spicy110 2 года назад

You must be 555?

@Mcjayc 3 года назад

Generic comment

@monck55 3 года назад

Approximately twenty extra power stations would be needed to charge the tens of millions of vehicles on UK roads. Such a vast amount of extra electricity can't be supplied by unreliable non-generated sources like wind. It will need fossil, nuclear and new technologies that supply instant, on demand generated electricity.

@SatanDotExe 3 года назад

Everyone is scared of nuclear even though it's currently our best option...

@wolfe1970 2 года назад

I purchased this bike in November, ended up sending it back after 3 months, nothing but lies and lies and more lies, Max speed is 50 mph not 60 mph, put a phone on there and you will see the speedo is out by 20% I got 40 miles in mode 1 and 2% battery left, you wont ever get 60 miles out of it, again put a phone on and you will see the odometer also lies, i did 40 miles and the bike registered 46 miles, Also, this bike doesn't have 170Nm torque like advertised, the motor actually produces 12.9Nm torque as stated on their website, thats over 1200% difference The bike shop i brought it from even changed the listing specs based on the information i gave them, should really be a law against false advertising like this, wasted my alot of time and money

@spicy110 2 года назад

My findings were my findings with this machine, I can not say any more than that. As for the torque figures I think you will find it depends where it's measured as to how much it has. Same as crank BHP and wheel BHP.