Honestly I just love that Otto is surprised at how spider-man in all his years of fighting evil could of ended everyone with one good punch to the head.
@@jogobetterhonestly that’s even worse. Because she became a villain/does crime for no good reason. Unlike sandman and rhino who are villains for money, kingpin or tombstone to keep control/power, venom or Harry for revenge, or even carnage who is a psychotic killer, she does it all basically for clout and to humiliate spidey for no good reason. Frankly this was why I loved the beating because it’s the ultimate “fuck around and find out”
I just have to say, if I was Peter, I would be pissed at the avengers when I get my body back. I’d say something like “ you know 20 telepath‘s and you couldn’t have gotten one of them to check if I was under mind control?”
In one superior Spider-Man story the x-men almost did, but Otto managed to convince them not to by cracking jokes and saying something about privacy or something
That's actually intentional on the Avengers' part. At this point, the team (Aside from Wolverine and Spider-Woman) don't know Peter's identity, and this even extends to not removing his mask while unconscious. They only performed a brainwave scan to not violate Peter's right to a secret identity. (Also, the scan would've picked up mind control, since Otto and Peter swapped minds, it's not technically mind control) Basically, Peter got screwed because the Avengers actually respected him
In my opinion, the Superior Spider-Man story line is one of my favorites. If gives a clear perspective of how different Peter and Octavous are on the definition of being a hero. Also shows that Ock assumed he understood Spider-Man but he never did and never was able to get the amount of responsibility Peter had
People give superior spider-man so much shit but I loved the run until the end. Seeing Otto's development was great and it hurts a lot to see how they fucked that up.
Look, I’m not saying what Otto did was right, but those two had it coming. You don’t hit below the belt in a fight. They could’ve cost Peter any chance of having kids.
As someone who has an immense hatred of screwball (I usually just avoid the comics, but the “geniuses” at insomniac thought she would be a good side character that you need to confront for 100% and get all the costumes), this issue is easily one of my favorites. I’m disappointed that she wasn’t killed by kraven in the sequel to the game (though I agree she isn’t worth his time, but he could’ve ended our suffering).
As interesting of a story this is, it would have been appreciated if Peter wasn’t the only one who wasn’t so oblivious. Like, the Avengers’ Skrull test couldn’t pick up anything that was off? They should have been able to tell that the brainwaves still weren’t Peter’s.
They didn't search for that though. Avengers first tought was that he is either controlled by someone or it's an impostor. And I'm pretty sure to confirm that brainwaves are not Peter's they need original sample to compare them which doubt they had - after all Spider-Man keep his secret identity even from them
@@Ocelot835 Perhaps, but I’d rather plot didn’t make characters dumb just so the story could continue to progress. There are other ways, one just needs to use their head. At least writers acknowledge that they would step in eventually if they felt it necessary and not nags them conveniently disappear during the duration of the story, but still.
This run was plagued by characters who acted the way the plot demanded instead of actually staying through with the characters actual intelligence, like, since when was Black Cat of all people evil enough to become a mob boss just to spite Peter instead of going “who are you since Pete would never deck me like this?”
@@user-pj1ec5om5gyeah as neat as Otto being Peter is, the rest is just a mess. Like you’re telling me with the amount of mystic sorcerors , shapeshifters, clones, and countless, countless characters with advanced psychic powers everyone of the avengers have met they were completely blind to this glaring change (again, countless psychics could have easily told this shit) Like cap in this issue just listed all the other possible shit superior wasn’t but body swap wasn’t even considered. Also isn’t a skrull supposed to be a way way more advanced shape shifting that could near perfectly copy all aspects of said person, so wouldn’t being able to tell this isn’t Peter be easier than finding out if he’s a skrull or not Lastly, black widow, aka super spy and master of manipulation/psychology’s only response to an image clearly showing something strange with an arrow pointing to the Spider-Man face only response is “hurhur he sucks at drawing”
This story was totally the plot of that Batman Beyond episode starring Ra's al Ghul, except for the fact it doesn't feel as cursed as Talia with David Warner's voice. Ughhhhhh
Imagine Otto making the iconic Bully Maguire walk on New York streets just after obtaining Peter's body. It would have been so Epic, not even Scorcerse could help but say "THIS is cinema" 🚬🗿
Amazing Spider-Man 700 blew my mind as a kid. Obviously i wasn’t really aware of how goofy comics are and that spider-man’s “died” maybe a dozen times before. So when the series just… Ended there and superior started? so glad i was there for it
I’m hyped for the red hood video. This video is great, really feel bad for both Otto and Peter but Otto is still wrong for almost killing two pranksters. Hopefully you will get some good rest after this or the next video! Love your vids!
8:43 thank you for making the red hood video, but you can take some breaks and sleep for more than three hours. (I love you contact it’s funny, thought provoking, and emotional sometimes.)
Everyone loves the superior run but I have issues reconciling how literally no one in peter’s life caught on that he wasn’t just being extra, he was violently out of character in a universe where shit the like the shadow king exists…
Funny how black widow did the worst out of all of them and yet she talk like she is with peace also Wolverine was cool for this one like he was like yeah we did worse why talk about the kid like that
Superior chad man wrecking screwball is pretty relaxing, fuck her, if they ever make superior in the games they better not put screwball in that shit again bc I swear to god Ima leave them just like Otto did here
Probably harder than we would think to talk convincingly like another person. Especially if their manner of speaking is completely different from yours.
I just realize the similarity of the in-game Advance suit from Marvel Spider man remaster vs Superior Spider-man suit. It all make sense now, but I do hope they ditch the "white spider" though.
The thing that really steps Superior up is the similarities, not the differences. Any time the similarities are highlighted between Pete and Otto it makes Pete look better by comparison. By, like, a landslide.
I find it crazy that the avengers question Spider-Man for killing, even though they all will kill, if necessary, especially wolverine, black widow, who is a assassin spy 😂
Just love how desptie the comments the Avengers are giving Otto-Spiderman, Wolverine is like, "Uh, guys, haven't we all done this same thing at some point?"
I love superior spider man, but i still can't get over how the only reason he got away with it for so long is because the avengers were extremely neglectful on their analysis of spiderm-man, litterally none of the science guys present to read the results, nor a single telepath they could convinve to help them. Smh
Unfortunately, I was out of the loop when Superior Spider-Man went down and was only reading what some fans called Adjectiveless X-Men and Superior Foes of Spider-Man. While I loved the humor in that series (to the point I was willing to overlook how dirty it did Shocker), I always thought it was kinda crappy of Nick Spencer to use Superior Spider-Man as an excuse to pitch an idea that had nothing to do with it (the one issue in the miniseries that relates to Superior Spider-Man wasn't written by him). Fun, harmless crappy, but still crappy. After seeing this video, I now realize how much of a disservice I did to myself by only reading Superior Foes.
Well if you ask me Peter Parker Spider-Man I think he deserves to finally stopped holding back remember every single unforgivable blood and all the other Marvel Spider-Man comics that he's been through including Miles Morales we're seeing the real true powers and strength of Peter Parker when he really not holding back and we definitely have seen the darkness of Peter Parker and Miles Morales and we definitely have seen the darkness of Peter Parker and we may not have seen the true darkness of Miles Morales yeah but we will soon
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