Superman and Spider-Man - Atop the Fourth Wall 

"Call me next time mommy gives you your allowance." "My parents are dead, but thanks for being so understanding and supportive."

Superman assumes that only two men alive could have engineered this breakout: Luthor and Doom. Somewhere in Metropolis, Vandal Savage feels rejected and he doesn't quite know why.

So Aquaman and Namor totally had a civil war at some point.

Cindy: Call me the next time your mommy gives you your allowance. Peter: My Mother is dead. Cindy: ... Peter: ...

No wonder Doom's plans are always foiled, he keeps smashing mirrors! Who knows how many years of bad luck he built up on himself!

Superman's real reason for not stopping Doctor Doom in Latveria is really because he is "Over There's Problem"

Superman: "It's a pleasure to work with you again, Spiderman. But I can't shake the sensation we are forgetting something." Spiderman: "Don't worry. I'm sure it's nothing important." *meanwhile, down at Doom's underground base* Doom minion: "Wait, did these two really just really left, leaving the Hulk and Wonder Woman here?"

I love the idea that Doom records himswlf gloathing. That's such a Doom thing to do.

I miss the old comics. The overdramatic dialogue. The overdramatic narration. The colourful, weird art. Comic publishers actually working together.

Personal theory regarding this shared universe: This comic and any that might share its universe is one where the heroes never faced a Crisis Event; No Secret Wars, No Civil War, No Crisis on Infinite Earths, etc. Each hero took care of their own city, would bump into each other in certain events, and the world was more peaceful

Linkara still makes a better Doctor Von Doom than in 2 movie versions.

J Jonah Jamison's had quite the character development post-One More Day. He had a heart attack, the Daily Bugle was sold to a tabloid mogul and became a gossip magazine, Jonah ran for mayor and won, using his new connections to try to capture Spidey, the physical building for the Daily Bugle was destroyed, his dad married Aunt May, he lost his wife in an attack by Alistair Smyth, but promised to put his hatred for Spidey aside and help him in any way he could (unfortunately Doc Ock took control of Spidey's body just a few months later), he got blackmailed by the Superior Spider-man, losing his job as the blackmail became public but somehow getting his position as publisher for the Daily Bugle back, he lost his dad to a heart disease, Spidey revealed himself to Jonah as Peter, showing him how they're still family and he trusts him, and after a few issues of dealing with this revelation, he's become arguably Spider-man's strongest supporter, even going back in time with Spidey and telling his younger self to go easy on Peter (who just started working for JJJ) since the kid will help him in more ways than he'll realize. JJJ has arguably had more character development in the past 10 years than he has had in 50 years of comics, where he was a proud, arrogant jerk but had a heart of gold and would always look out for his employees when they really needed it, and whose hatred of Spider-man was based entirely on being envious of him doing the right thing while seeking no reward.

'''And aparently NY it's on constant danger of everything falling apart...'' Soo, regular comic books NY then.

Doom is like that kid at the playground who always runs to the swing set and insists on him not being able to be tagged when he touches it. And when somebody DOES tag him there he gets his mom involved.

18:40 If you attempt world domination over there, then that's fine. Over there need to take care of its own problems!

Paraphrasing but I liked the James Rolfe quote about stuidos not making more crossovers "They don't make crossovers because they have to split profits. Guess what? Some money is more than no money"

18:17 Diplomatic Immunity plus the fact that Dr Doom is the leader of his country is carte blance for Doom to do whatever he wants until USA formally delclares war or expels the embassy.

Doom on the last panel: "Can't catch me Superman! Home base!"

Flaws aside, Doctor Doom's characterization here is super cool and it's kind of sad to see him betray Parasite even though they do have so much in common.

Aunt May being immortal would be an interesting take on One More Day. In addition to erasing their marriage, Mephisto makes May unable to die, but she's still a frail old lady, meaning Peter has to constantly take care of her medical bills. After all, the only thing worse than letting a loved one die is watching them live on in misery for the rest of your life.

Imagine if Doctor Doom and Lex Luthor teamed up.

I had this comic when I was a kid, and read it multiple times. And I have to disagree... I remember Spider-Man coming off looking much more heroic and interesting that Superman in the story. Maybe it was because they showed him having such a hard time, that you couldn't help feel for him. They placed him squarely as the story's focus, and probably most importantly, as its underdog. He's the one who went through a character arc--all his hard luck made him doubt himself and he wondered if he shoudl quit, but instead he rallies and decides to try and help anyway. And despite the other heroes' vast power, it was Spider-Man who made all the difference in the story. I especially remember the ending. Superman was holding the reactor core together, but only barely, and it was killing him and it was only a matter of time before he lost control and the thing exploded. It was all up to Spider-Man to rig a bypass for the safeties with technology he'd never seen before, with nothing but some bent wire as a tool. I remember loving that it wasn't Peter's powers that ultimately saved everyone, it was his scientific knowledge that he's learned as just old plain Peter Parker. It blew my little 13 year old mind. I guess there's a difference when reading these kind of stories as a kid and reading them as an adult. But even so, it really seemed to me like it was truly Peter Parker's story, and the other characters were just supporting characters in it.

When did your Bulbasaur join Team Skull?

Yes I totally agree, get over the pissing match marvel and dc and work together to bring crossovers back of the two companies between each other.

"It felt like Spider-Man was playing second fiddle to Superman for most of the story until the end" I mean... isn't that kind of the point? Spider-Man is the average man of the story, trying to get by as well as he can, the down on his luck Superhero that tries his best to be the hero he wants to be... but is constantly held back by his insecurities and bad luck, while Superman is... Superman the OG hero, the man who has almost everything figured out about himself and has everything under control, his only problems (at least in the Silver Age) were related to how well he felt he could adjust to the world and whether or not his actions are for the good or bad of mankind, if he does too much. So it makes sense that in a crossover Spider-Man would look up to Superman as something he wishes he could be, as Superman is everything he wants to be, the hero that everyone adores and respects, who gets along with everyone and is the center of attention for most of the action. Spider-Man feeling like a bit player actually totally fits his character, as he is just the everyman in a larger world, not something Doom would even bother with because he isn't worth his time, until the very end where Spider-Man proves why he's such a great hero by being able to go against the odds against people he shouldn't be able to fight, and ultimately being the dude that saves the day. If anything it was the perfect Superman/Spider-Man crossover, as it what would actually happen if these two ever met. Spider-Man feeling inadequate compared to the larger than life Superman, while also being able to save Superman from the robot, the kryptonite, using his brains to stop the machine while Superman uses his muscles, and inadvertently saving the Parasites life with his powers, it actually has his being way more useful than the first crossover. I mean... complaining that Spider-Man feels like he isn't equal to Superman seems weird, especially since its how Spider-Man has always acted, being a second fiddle to some of the larger heroes but being crafty enough to find a way to win. So i think this crossover actually represented both characters pretty well. TL;DR: I don't feel that Spider-Man was misrepresented in this crossover, he felt completely in character in comparison to Superman. It felt like the best type of crossover with these two characters, from the character interactions from the Daily Bugle/Daily Planet staff, to the villains feeling like an actual threat to both characters, to the fact that both characters don't go the "We are heroes, we must fight" routine. But hey, that's just my opinion.

He is DOOM, master of plot contrivances!

27:45 So, I looked it up in my copy. While it is pointless to send you a scan because it is in German, I can still relay what happens there. No, it is not supposed to repeat. We see three more panels, Doom leaving with Parasite (Parasite thinking of betraying Doom once he is powered up in a thought balloon), a reveal of Spider-Man overhearing the whole conversation through a hole in the roof, and Spider-Man deciding to leave the compound for now and get, in as many words, "PROPER help this time".

They actually used C3-D2 as a joke on The Simpsons--Ralph got his head stuck in a tuba and proclaimed that that was who he was.

Sadly Marvel's cops have tended to shoot first and ask questions later, while Supes is bulletproof (and Metropolis cops are also less trigger happy than, say, Gotham cops), so there's less reason for Spidey (and early on Bats) to stick around.

Darnit Linkara, I need to be sleeping right now.

"You've got a pretty creepy routine!" You routinely work with Batman, Plastic Man, The Phantom Stranger, and Raven! Get over yourself!

Ah, poor Parasite. It's ok buddy. You have a great personality and you are funny and smart. You just need to stop putting so much pressure on yourself. Just be you, man. You might not get Wonder Woman, but you will get the Right Woman.

25:36 I’M STILL A MAN! ‘Punch’ Ha ha classic Linkara.

Okay, now they need to release the Doom Cut of Star Wars

I love your Dr. Doom skits.

28:08 In the late 70s/early 80s Supergirl lived in Manhattan. But strangely, in Superman Family, she never ran into the FF or Avengers.

Your Vader voice for Doom was amazing, and I wish you'd used it throughout.

Who watches Linkara at 3am? This guy

Let's face it, Doom keeps the mask on to prevent anyone from knowing that he's got a receding hairline.

I want a comic where Spider-Man remembers this, only he remembers it as Hyperion and not Superman.

Spiderman IS creepy. Imagine if you saw a man crawling down a wall silently with their head looking backwards at you.

And yet Linkara still doesn’t own both Marvel & DC.

Jeez, Doom is like a Shakespeare character.

Man... people being mad about missing lunch dates and dentist appointments while the city crumbles around them was a lot less believable in 2018...

Man, Spidey really lucked out in this comic didn't he? Really sucks considering I was looking forward to seeing how they could be handled equally but oh well I guess. Also, is it bad Linkara's Dr Doom voice is the voice I now hear in my head whenever I read a line from Doom in a comic I'm reading?

Superman, Spider-Man, AND the Hulk in one comic book!? I don’t need to read the rest of this, this is the best comic book in history. Edit: and now Peter’s getting coffee with Jimmy Olsen, goddamnit this is perfect!

You know, old comics have lots of odd talking out loud, but Doom totally would do this. It actually makes sense, especially when Doom has transcripts.

PS: Gotta love Spidey's thoughts at 23.45 when he first meets Wondy too: 'At least she recognises me! Figures! She used to live in New York! It's strange that we never ran into each other there! Oh well...it's a big town!' As perfect an example of simple crossover logic as I've ever seen, yes...?!

At first I questioned why they had Doctor Doom as Spider-Man's foil, but then I remembered how much fun Doom is as a villain and all was forgiven.

8:05 On my spleen, anxiety! In my lungs, nervous breakdowns! My eyes, OCD! My teeth, plaque!

About the Star Wars thing: Spidey is very behind the times. He most likely forgets the names, but Vader is a very well known figure, even to non-Star Wars fans

Not even five minutes in and I'm already dying at the Braun Strowman joke. Bravo Linkara, Bravo.

that's an awesome thing about Dr.Doom that really bothers me or the movies insisting on ignore: He's a King with diplomatic immunity! even if you stop his current plans he's unstoppable in the grand scheme of things unlike any other villain that can be arrested AND he has an entire nation ready to back him up anyways

I like longer episodes like this one. Makes me think we get more plot progression.

So Doctor Doom is really Stoop Kid from Hey Arnold?! Also, how great would it have been if we could've had Doctor Doom announce that in Latveria (and its embassies) "I AM THE LAW!"

13:55 It's almost like invading a planet, threatning and forcing people you don't like to fight to the death just to get payback at them is totally evil or something.

Braun Strowman is a wrestling reference I never.....EVER...expected Linkara to make

So many moments in this that made me laugh XD Thanks dude!

I seriously never understood why Peter stays at The Daily Bugle. I get he owes Jonah for giving him his break, but he has admitted time and time again he could make WAY more money working at any other paper or news organization. Unless Jonah has enough pull to blackball Peter from any other media outlet he should have quit decades ago. It feels like one of the biggest examples of, status quo must be maintained even when it makes absolutely no seance what so ever.

When I was this early, he was doing text reviews.

I never would've realized that Jameson was the equivalent of an abusive domestic partner. I bit into the pomegranite and my eyes were opened.

Doom: "Foolish Superman! You cannot touch me... for I am OVER THERE!

Doom: MY MACHINE WILL TURN ALL FOSSIL FUELS INTO SAND, THUS RENDERING THEM USELESS!!! [AOC wants to know your location]

Linkara's right. There are plenty of Superheroes in New York, including Batman if you're willing to count Gotham. Kinda makes me wonder if we're ever going to get a Ninja Turtles/Spawn crossover.

This comic is weirdly well written for a random cheap "Yeah, whatever crossover thingy".

You know, everytime Linkara does that "I am a Man" punch to the side, I always expect he would bring out a super secret never before release edition of Marville or something far more worst to review:D

Isn't Spidey more or less a sidekick in most crossovers he's been in, even with the Avengers?

The thing is, aside from WWH, the only instances were the Hulk has gone to a highly populated city by his own will, and not because he was Banner and then transformed in the city, were usually to get people... to help other people. I remember it happened twice with Dr. Strange, with Hulk looking for him to help Namor, and then later Jarella. And also something very telling about the Hulk is that when he enters a city, the only damages provoqued is the shattered concrete beneath his feet... right until a supervillain attacks him, or a scared cop shoots him. That's the thing about the Hulk: if people wasn't scared of him and let him be... he could stroll perfectly through the middle of New York without hurting a fly.

Spider-man ''wowzers! a team up with Superman and Wonder Woman!'' Superman: ''sure, kid. try to keep up''

How's this for a crossover? The Avengers meet StarTrek: The Next Generation. At the end of the comic Adam Warlock, The Silver Surfer, The Living Tribunal & Eternity are having a meeting on why everything is happening the way it is. Somebody off panel says "mind if we join this meeting of yours". Its Q, along with other Q's.

I think the Steve Lombard stuff is an fun call back plus also add to "Spidey gets no respect" which is a staple to his character.

Doom sure loves to monologue a lot must really love the sound of his own voice.

The ONLY reason I heard the Hulk and Wonder Woman were put in this story was because they had TV shows on at the time...

Idk why but I had the most random thought of "What if the moment OMD gets reversed, DC and Marvel suddenly start making crossovers again?" Also if I'm not mistaken, the universe this book takes place in particular had an actual designation right?

Man, Jimmy Olsen is trying REALLY HARD to get a date with Peter, but the guy is so oblivious. Poor Jimmy...

Love your doom

I miss big boisterous speeches and grand plans by comic villains. Today's comics want more "normal" and whenever a baddie does do this now it's always followered someone asking "why are you talking like that?" That really bugs me.

Imagine being the dude whose job is "Doom Transcriptions." Just how generous with [said gloriously] and [dramatic gesture] would you be?

I mean, Latveria _is_ "over there."

Dr Doom is a holocaust denier? Hope he doesn’t say that to magneto

19:35 Superman is working in New York. Stopping planes from crashing. Heh.

You forgot to say "Lets dig into Superman and Spider-Man... Yeah, he is not amazing in this one..."

"Hatred to the right of me, bitterness to the left! Stuck in the middle with you!!!"

Clark's plan to get out of the meeting was actually pretty clever

DC and Marvel NEED crossovers between the two! These old comics convince me even more so.

Oh HELL yeah, I loved this comic when I was a kid!

Linkara's Dr. Doom impression is just beyond hilarious 😂😂😂

How many weeks do you work ahead? You have so much editing every week it’s completely herculean that you keep producing a video every week. You’re an inspiration.

*snork* I always love seeing your Doom come out. XD And yeah, I totally agree with you on the crossover -- this is basically a Superman vehicle that Spidey just happens to be in. Some more balance between the characters getting to do stuff would have been much appreciated. (Makes you wonder why it took DC so long to approve it, since it showed off their characters in such a great light.)

I can only imagine that scene Clark confronting Jamison with Christopher Reeve and J.K Simmons.

"Ha, DOOM can not be harmed by Superman, because Latverian soil is technically "over there" for Superman. DOOM'S PLAN IS UNSTOPPABLE!"

Doom skits AND an "I am a man" punch in one episode? You spoil us, sir.

You know, all of this behavior of Jonah's is funnier now that He is among the few who knows Peter is Spidey

Linkara, your Dr. Doom is one of my favorite - and in my opinion - funniest characters. Through all the episodes that feature your impression, I have never not laughed.

"Pathetic heroes! Doom is on gool!"

I feel the Titans as well as any super hero could probably get away with fighting dark side as he's kind of everyone's Villan. Same goes for Thanos, question. didn't thanos start as a spidy villain? I think some one told me that but I'm not sure how trust worthy that statement is

Braun Strowman replies "My heat is so strong it can power a hot air balloon!"

Why is Superman working in New York? New York is *over there*.

28:25 I know just the one, SPOOOOOOOOOOOON!

I could definitely see Dr Doom being a fan of Drag Race. He's probably team Alexis Michelle and parodies Valentina's elimination