Me: Citizens of Metropolis! You all are no match for these lifeforms! They are Kryptonians, they're immune to our torture, they have the exact same superhuman abilities and powers as Superman!! Only kryptonite can weaken these filthy criminals!
@@zorbathegreek8339 Superman would like to kill them, with Superpowers, although, making them lose their super-powers, and brutally killed them, was still the second best option, although, not as satisfying, because, just like humans, it would have been, a terribly unfair advantage, but I guess, that's karma, for abusing your super-powers, and killing innocent people, who couldn't defend themselves.
Definitely! I saw this when I was a kid (I was 5 in 1980) and the two movies that blew me away were this and the Empire Strikes Back! (The walkers were cool, but it was the asteroid chase that impressed my brothers, friends and I)
it's actually quite amazing the amount of great action and destruction they were able to film here without CGI. And, can't be said enpough, Terence Stamp was MASSIVE as Zod
He IS Zod. I thought Man of Steel was a great film to be honest, but Stamp managed to sound menacing by being quiet as well, great acting. Love the " This, Suuuperman, is nothng of the kind!" line...
The dodgy green screen effects especially when flying look pretty dated now, although i never really noticed that back when the film was released. CGI in modern films can of course look ropey & unrealistic too.
@@autoworld9681 That portrayal was nonsense. The characters motivations were a mess. He wants the genetic plan for the next thousand years for what? The population it was meant to support was destroyed. The planet it was meant to maintain was destroyed. The Kryptonian needs are completely different. Then he wants to attack a planet with an existing population, nuclear weapons, and super freaks defending it when he could just as easily terraform Venus which is also in ideal conditions. Also, why terraform at all? Earth turns his people into walking gods but he wants to terraform it to make sure they are as weak as always? Stamp's version was superior in all ways.
And how does he repay them?......by flying off leaving metropolis to fend for themselves which then shows a scene of a guy calling superman a phoney and kid calling him a chicken.....what a hero LOL
They getting nowhere by fighting, except to destroying the city & getting people get hurt. So he decided to lured them in his "home"/territory & change his plan to get rid of them. For smarter/safer way.
TheGoldcountry He left because he needed them to follow him to the Fortress of Solitude. So Superman boxed with them a litlle bit to demonstrate his invulnerability and then he split. That way Zod would jump at the idea of Superman stepping into the molecular restructuring chamber or whatever it was.
That's a Donner shot-it wasn't in the Lester version. It IS nice, but overall, I personally like the Lester version best. I grew up with it (I was 5 when it came out) and I also like the humour and heart of it
2:53 I don't know why, but I just like that. These people know they don't stand a chance, but they just saw their hero get "killed" and they are charged up ready to fight. People from different backgrounds and races, ready to die just like their hero. Proof Superman truly did inspire the city...or proof that I'm reading way too much into this LOL
@@gezzly72 Superman is not real yes.... but it symbolized heroism, if you help alot of people they will help you too simple..... this Superman did inspire people even the MCU...
Wow. I've seen Superman II hundreds of times, and I never realized the fight scene could be so dramatic. It a refreshing take. The fight in the Lester Cut was mainly played for laughs. The Donner Cut shows how many people were hurt or put in danger because of it.
I think this is a mixture of lester and donner cut. The donner cut alone was nowhere near as good or intense. I have both versions. Donner is a skilled director no doubt. But he alone kind of makes the film a little dull. But lester came in and knew how to tweak it here and there to give the film more life and enjoyable, knew how to give it a 'feel good' factor.
I like the Lester version of the movie overall better. I like the humour in it (with the guy still laughing on the phone as the city block is being blown away) I know many didn't like it, but as a kid, I loved it (This and Empire Strikes Back blew me away in 1980!) I also think that Supes snappy "General, care to step outside?" beats "Haven't you heard of freedom of the press?" I also like the music cues (but in all fairness, the music would have been timed for Donner if his version was released)
@@ninjaturtlemaster24 I agree. I actually like the way Lester has fight scenes. Watch the Four Musketeers-the final battle between D'Artangan and Rochefort was still poignant despite the humour
The fight scene was filmed by Lester after Donner was fired, so it's almost all Lester footage, though Donner Cut producer/editor Michael Thau tried to remove the slapstick gags and make it play straight.
The Donner Cut was only 75% shot, so a majority of the fight in metropolis was by richard lester, you could easily pick out in both films which are from donner and lester not only that the time travel scene was originally going to be use again in superman 2 so they recycled that, the only new footage to the public that was practically unseen was most of the interaction with his father in the FOS, the beginning when lois tried to uncover clarks secret which I found very smallvillish. The fact that the movie was put together was a miracle so when people asked for the snyder version of JL that was practically 90% complete I constantly said during that time when idiots doubted a release that - "History has a habit of proving people wrong when it comes to things like this being released" and I was right....again :-)
@@noobsavant yeah, but did they actually think Superman was dead? Like how naive can you get? Also the windstorm didn't cause any fatalities by the time superman recovered everyone was safe but superman left because too many people were at risk not because he was afraid they were rather dumb to think it was not their fault ironically he, saved them cause even if he, knocks, one senseless there's two others.
I can't describe how excited and fascinated this movie made me when I watched it as a 9 year old or so kid in the 80's. Even though I didn't live in the USA. It was way more magic than any other super hero movie I came to watch later as an adult. I can't explain why. Maybe it's cause as a kid I had the impression it was real, that it wasn't pretend. It was like a good dream.
Ursa was my favorite villian in this movie.. she was so articulate in her destructive behaviour... and she did it with a smile on her face.. Sarah Douglas played this part so well..
You really have to appreciate the statement made when Superman retreated. He recognized that it was too much for him to handle and needed to regroup to come up with a new plan. Rather than continuing to fight a losing battle and risk the lives of everyone in the city, the best thing he could do was retreat. Ultimately, Superman was the target of Zod, Ursa, and Non, so Superman knew they would follow him. It never happens anymore when you have a hero using strategy mid-battle and recognize when to retreat rather than remain and put more lives in danger. Hands down, THESE are the best Superman stories.
To be completely fair with Supes here, he was more than a match for two of these Kryptonians as he demonstrated when he was tossing them one at a time. However, coupled with the task of protecting humans while fighting? That's an entirely different story. Zod was right. Clark is too much for them to handle but if they took advantage of his empathy for humans, then they more than have a chance.
That wasn't it. Superman could have won here but he couldn't do it without massive civilian casualties because when the Kryptonians started to lose they used civilians against him. "It never happens anymore when you have a hero using strategy mid-battle " Watch literally any Iron Man movie.
Fantastic movie great effects, would have loved to have seen more of the u.s military against the trio though I know there was the budget to take into account. Would have loved to have seen fighter jets and military tanks ballistic missiles against the villians, would that have stopped them.? Also do you think ursa would have been strong enough to stop the lunar module from taking off on the moon
Classic Battle: Here are some outdated effects, but they feature real actors. Modern Battle: Here are CGI representations of the actors in a movie that has been stripped of color.
@ANTHONY THOMAS I don't think it's fantastic. I think it mostly looks like a cartoon, not a movie. CGI done sparingly looks great (see Jurassic Park, where practical effects blended into the CGI pretty seamlessly). When they try to build entire worlds or cities in CGI, as is often the case nowadays, it does not look real.
Say what you will about the special effects, but they mostly hold up despite being 35+ years old. This seems more real than modern superhero films where they just mindlessly smash up sterile CGI cities.
Agreed. That's really all MOS was. These scenes not only show off their powers, but both Superman and Zod used their heads throughout this whole battle.
Mikeman Jordan compare that to the CGI cartoonish capes. All the scenes where Superman flies for the first time all over the world, it looks so unrealistic. The CGI cape looks cartoonish. Compare it to the scene in the original where Reeve’s Superman is chasing the rocket in air. The background is fuzzy, but Reeve actually looks like he’s there. Using an actual cape helped.
@@harryclarkhulk excuse me, Superman's first flight in mos is the most realistic I've ever seen, the speed, the environmental effects, the sonic booms are all very realistic.
J Perez I hope they paid a lot because my mom took me to see this movie when I was 5 and now I'm lying in a hospital, toothless and dying of Lung Cancer.
Even a Superman can use some cheering on. I love this scene. If they portrayed a Superman like this again, it would hit big! I like that the people are showing gusto for Superman too even though they know they don’t stand a chance.
You should check out the new animated "My Adventures with Superman" series, it perfectly captures and illustrates what Superman should be in the modern day and has a lot of wholesome scenes like this.
Yeah, when he is shouting to Ursa and Non not to throw the bus because of the people. Well, it did look funny I suppose. That was why they cut away from him.
03:57 and 03:59 I love the little model people all moving along together as they are being pulled by a rod or string. Great effects shot though, you only see these things on multiple re-watching!
It's always funny to think the female villain (forget her name) strained her arm during the scene when they were supposed to be lifting the bus up. She was apparently treating it as if she really did have to lift it up haha
According the actress Sarah Douglas who played Ursa said that the bus was on chain which was on a crane and when the crane lifted the chain which lifted the bus the chain had a little bit of settlement and the bus shifted a bit on her side instead relaxing her arm she was holding it and the weight of the bus came down on her
@@axebomber2108 Could have been much worse the chain holding /lifting the bus could have snapped and the bus coming down crushing her and Jack O'Halloran who played Non i am sure they took all safety measures when filming the scene .
I love the practical effects from the late 70's-80's compared to now. I find today it's way overboard with the visual effects.Original superman effects still look good today.
And people complained about the destruction in Man of Steel like bruh. Imagine colossal beings fighting each other in real life, of course there will be destruction. In the 70s they wish to portray it the same way but just couldn't however they would likke to give the idea by destroying key locations that would make it look great but of course feasible to the production. Man of Steel gave justice in remaking this fight and keep on being in awe when I saw the film and keep remembering this fight scene. Oh how technology have improved. (im on my mid 20s but saw this film when I was a kid and loved superman even with outdated effects.)
SMBancho830 they are just looking for an excuse to trash DC. Everyone likes Marvel more, but that doesn't mean we should make stupid excuses to trash the movie
If they had a building collapse in Superman II, I doubt Superman would have just flown away from it, he would have tried to stop the collapse or at least save the people inside.
Except here he's shown to actually care about the people that can get hurt in the battlefield, it's why people complain about the destruction in man of steel If the superman in man of steel was shown to care people won't complain, if he would have tried to bring zod to space more times than just once, if he tried to catch the truck that zod threw at him, if he stopped punching zod through buildings then people would actually feel like he cares for the citizens and don't even give me crap about the inexperienced part, you know how much more epic it would be if he was inexperienced but still tried to save everyone by doing all the things I just mentioned?
@@thetempleton6622 we can see in Cavill, he is still trying his best to save people, the military, the people who Zod would be frying. He literally took down the last of his kind for humanity and still some do not appreciate it. Also all of these you were pointing out were shown in Bvs. He goes saving people, he tried to bring Doomsday outside to minimise damage and keep safe people. We really saw the growth of superman from being a noob to an actual superhero. He is also in pressure fighting these beings that he do not even understand how to takedown.
This whole superhero vs supervillain fight in the city was so epic and well executed. These new movies today barely tell a coherent story. Terrance Stamps General Zod was one of the all time greats.
@@captainjefferies9047 Like these lame Marvel movies and 10th re-boots of superhero franchises for example or whatever number they are on. It's all CGI and the storytelling is usually very poor. It's all noise with very little substance in most cases. And no I'm not interested in you trying to give examples of good ones.
@@STONESGAM Well Pretty much all the Marvel movies tell much better written totally coherent stories. Maybe you have a mental deficiency which prevents you from understanding them?
Difference in both tho is he abandoned them here in superman 2 moment later where in superman 4 he sticks around and made sure nuclear man followed him.
Huh. This is way different than the version I have seen before. The other version was too silly; people still shopping, a guy in a phone booth being blown away but still talking away, stuff like that. This was a real fight. I liked it.
TheNotoriousCheeto I remember that guy on the phone. That must’ve been a good conversation, because he was laughing his ass off. Lol - Signed 03/28/2020
Thats what separates this film from a lot of what was in MoS. Christopher Reeve's Superman actually TRIED to prevent collateral damage to the city and the people and even tries to take the fight out of the city.
Please point me to where he tried to take the fight out of the city. He doesn't seem to be concerned with collateral damage to the city and people any more than in MoS. This fight was a walk in the park compared to what Superman had to deal with in MoS. Why the hell doesn't he tell everyone to get inside? He doesn't mind them watch the fight like it's WWE.
Rez He does from the very beginning. At the start of the fight as soon as he destroys the concrete slab he immediately takes off and tries to lure them out of the city. However Zoe drop kicks him back in and can't get a break from that moment on.
Anyway Channel so once. That's not nearly enough to say this is superior to MoS (not saying your are, OP is). Since Zod and his crew intend on causing death and destruction, they can easily just kill people and destroy the city regardless if Supes is flying outside the city trying to lure them out. They know he cares about humans so they know that's his weak point and that's how they can bring him to the fight.
XxDuB STePxX He's still just as wreckless and blunt in Batman V Superman. His 1st scene in that movie is him literally raming a regular human being through a building.
I love this movie, whether it's Richard Lester's original theatrical version or the 2006 Richard Donner Cut. I'd love to see a 4K release that incorporates the best parts of each version (i.e. remove all of the campy Lester scenes, restore the Marlon Brando and additional Gene Hackman footage, but keep the beginning, end, and Niagara Falls scenes the same as the Lester version. I think that would be a tremendous film.
2:42 If this scene looks familiar--ordinary people so outraged that they stand up to a super-powered being on behalf of their fallen hero--it's because it was basically repeated years later, when passengers on a train told Doc Ock--"You want to get to him, you gotta go through me."
Back then my mum and dad when they saw the movie in the cinema said to me that this was just as violent and destruction as MOS and that was the early 80's
I like how the trio spared the crowd of people coming after them since they knew that crown of people didn't know what thy would be up against, so the trio literally blew them.
@@Studio2770 Nope, you're wrong. In Man of Steel they turned the whole city into debris, buildings collapsing and a lot of other things that still bother me today.
@Waldo Rojas Obviously I'm talking about the regular version that everyone saw in theaters and on home video for years. Stop acting like that version doesn't exist lol.
Love how zod and crew go through windows then you see brick fall Magically people at The Daily Planet can see all the action no matter how far away sups and zods group get
The first great movie with fighting scenes in the city. And with much more realistic effects than the current ones, which are mere 'video games' with actors
This Donner cut is really fast paced and the battle is really raging in the city. The theatrical added unnecessary funny scenes that doesn't make sense.
You think this is more realistic your telling me that if multiple god like beings actually fought each other in the city it would go down more like this than in man of steel
Superman uses a mirror to reflect Zod's heat vision Superman 2 and the mirror is undamaged. Drunk Superman warps a mirror with heat vision in Superman 3.
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