i used to drive a lot in RS3 and a bit in Lambo avantador, gallardo and huracan. RS3 sounds nothing like lambos and i was driving stage 1,2,3 of RS3 on had 600+ hp and was faster then lambos but still didnt sound nothing like em.
I went with a Supra. I would say I'm young still at 35. But I also have 2 other vehicles - a daily 2023 Outlander and Off Road rig 1999 Montero. I agree with everything you said, but I would add that looks are a big thing to me. The Audi, while it does look nice, looks like everything else on the road. There isn't anything awe inspiring about it visually. The Supra on the other hand, is a whole different level. Nothing else looks quite like it, everyone notices it, and you can't help but turn around and appreciate the looks every time you walk away.
As a former Supra and now 8V RS3 owner, well said. Since I only have space for one car, it was the more rational choice. Now at stage 2 flex fuel, the RS3 is the faster car mod for mod because of AWD and the way the 5 cylinder builds power. Sounds way better than B58 imo and it's a rarer drivetrain with the DSG. But I miss my blacked out Supra. Everyone called it the Batmobile 😩
I have a 15 Civic SI 4dr as a daily and I was looking for a weekend car. I was between a f80 m3, Supra, or 2015-18 911 carrera. The Supra might not be the fastest but it looks the best IMO and the B58 is extremely reliable. Mine makes 470WHP/550TQ
I agree with you on the looks of the rs3 or just Audi's in general. They look very subtle and don't stand out from the crowd much. But I gotta tell ya, I had a rs3 tail me on the freeway, and boy was it intimidating. That front end was so aggressive, Audi fan or not you had to respect that.
@@benfl9636oh yeah she's a mean little thing. Mine is mythos black and with the DRLs and 620hp pulling up behind you with the angry 5 cyl noise is pretty sweet
I daily drive my 2020 Supra and it makes me smile every single time I get in it. There are times where I'm away and I haven't driven it in literally 2-3 days and I come back to it and man does it make me happy getting back in it, I just wanna GO. It is a little bit of a bummer if you have 2 seats, having 4 with a cool group of friends and just wanna have THE nice comfy car that you all love and feel comfortable in to go late night food runs or chill and have those late night talks then ya I totally get it! but the supra man is a ROCKET SHIP and I will pick the supra over and over and over again.
I traded my 2022 Supra for a 2018 RS3 3 months ago. Wasn't looking to trade but came across the RS3 at 5K miles, so I had to take the opportunity. Since then, I've gone FBO stage 2 flex fuel on the RS3 and it's a completely different animal. I'm 26 and it's my only car and I love it. As an enthusiast, with these cars, I measure them in terms of how many concessions you have to make in order to have "fun". With the Supra, this was the lack practicality with 2 seats, the horrible sound system (like laughably bad), the traction (at ~550 rwhp, it struggled to put power down), LOUD asf with catless DP and titanium exhaust. The RS3 is the perfect car for me. Does so much so well and has such a unique engine. It's almost too fast and consistent with every pull. The only thing short of a super car that will give me problems on the highway is a tuned S58. However, it doesn't have that curb appeal. Pulling up and stepping out of the Supra you feel like the main character. It just looks like nothing else on the road. The RS3 blends with regular traffic. It's an A3 with half of a huracan engine and turbo. It's the better car once you get out of the boy racer stage. But man do I miss the Supra sometimes.
@Symphoniics Stay healthy and you can be a boy racer into your 80s. I'm in my 60s and would rather pair my Supra with a Lexus that will always be ultra reliable, even well beyond when the warranty expires.
i got both car and now still the supra.... Your explanation about good and bad point is very accurate but the best part is the way you explain the ''dull' factor... i felt this exact way with the RS3...
My current combo is RS3 and 991.2 S in manual. During pandemic rs3 was my one and only car and it was perfect . But yes i know what you mean by the dull experience sitting in the rs3 over time. I still cant get over the 5 cyl noises so it wont be leaving my garage anytime soon.
@@ky1ewtf before the 991.2S I had a older 2007 Cayman S manual. But just having a manual smaller car with a AWD turbo car is a great combo. Whether it's a gr86/Miata/Porsche etc.
Had a RS3 and went to a Supra.. like all points in this video, both amazing cars and i really don't think you can go wrong with either choice. I agree with what Cameron says, the RS3 loses it's scary factor once you realize how planted and in control that car is.. It's a fantastically built super rocket, confidence inspiring vehicle. I got my RS3 to around 550~ish WHP with just bolt on and tune and it never failed to make me giddy driving it.. I sold the RS3 and took about 4 years off from the car scene and decided to grab the Supra and I feel like i'm terrified when I drive it.. It kicks out the rear end so quickly.. it's a completely different type of animal and that doesn't mean it's better of a car, but for me it makes me want to learn how to drive it better and understand driving mechanics.. I'm having a "Different" type of fun and experience with the Supra. Again, if I never had the RS3, i'd probably go with the RS3 first over a Supra if I were looking at both.
Same boat as you. Second/weekend car - Supra, Daily - RS3. I like the sound of the RS3 over Supra though, and the Quattro system is the best out there. Very hard decision between the two, as they serve 2 different purposes.
I own a 2018 RS3 FBO stage 2 and I'm in love. Love the fact that you can still surprise people on how fast it really is. IROZ, Unitronic, APR, 034 all have something to offer as far as performance. The supra intrigues my curiosity. Very sexy looking car and highly customizable. In a perfect world I would own both. You cant go wrong with either IMO.
I'm a Dad of 3 boys and the 4 door is my first consideration, THE END! LOL! Great video and love your channel, relatively new subscriber. God Bless from Massachusetts!
Ive had my RS3 for 4 months, still love the sound I get with just midpipes. Has been an amazing daily throughout the New England winter after throwing on winter tires. My car has been stock since Ive owned it and does EVERYTHING I would want a daily to do. I will say, when compared to other cars in/around its class like an F80 M3 or M340i, the interior is lacking from a creature comfort perspective. Another point, the RS3 is still a small car - you don't get much room in the back seats, ask my buddies trying to squeeze 3 people in the back of an RS3 - LOL. Regardless, I love seeing the reactions of people when they turn around and see a tiny gray Audi sedan fly-by thinking they were going to see a Huracan. The overall experience this car gives its owner is worth every dollar IMO, but to Cams points, it's not for everyone. Has to be one of the best daily's you can buy.
Im in the market right now, glad this came up. Current Audi b8 s4 6mt manual owner daily. I love the new Audis but the deal breaker is the fact that they don’t have a manual. That’s why I’m going for a supra.
I had a 2018 RS3, all stock. Absolutely loved it. Sounded amazing, super fast and was a true sleeper. Only thing I didn’t love was the front seat comfort, I’m a taller driver though (6’4). 4 door was a huge plus but the rear seat room was tight. Moved to an EV, but miss the soul of the 5cyl. The one car I really miss.
RS3 For sure. I watched your video's and loved it and ended up going 034 like you did with yours.. Just installed mid pipes today and it's amazing. Also copped the same wheels you had got as I didn't want to go black wheels like everyone else. You really helped me make my decision! Thanks Cam!
@ghettolemon3993 I definitely disagree with you... but imagine getting gapped by "regular traffic" 😂 ... also the car sounds amazing.. 8V looks the best imo
Great video - thanks for making it as I am sort of torn between the Supra and the RS3 8Y (2022+). Interiorwise, I have 180 different opinion - the new 2023 RS3 looks great until you touch it. It feels super cheap inside compared to Supra. Both cars are in the same price range where I live and the RS3 literally feels like a Hyundai i30 inside.
RS3, I had a 2020. The only things I didn’t like about the RS3 were for 70k at the time, no cooled seats, infotainment sucked, could have had some nicer finishez. It ran 10.80s with bolt ons and E85. One thing that was cool about the RS3 you don’t see hardly any of them. So when I would pull up, most people had no clue what it was. One thing also to add, the screen in the center on the 2020 doesn’t go down, and is in your pov. Always bothered me.
@@jonodunn2592 Well damn, IDK what was up with mine. The screen would just go off, but the screen stayed up. I sold it now, and have a GT350 so I can't do anything now LOL
M340i did it for me. Best of both worlds, I feel like the interior is nicer especially with Marino leather and ambient lighting. The individual San Marino blue was the icing on the cake. Properly stanced on coils and wheels and it almost has the road presence of a g80.
Ironically, all of the reasons why you mentioned the Supra wouldn’t get as dull as quickly, are the reasons why I didn’t choose it. Having had plenty of high powered rear wheel drive cars throughout the years, I was tired of always being hyper aware of the road conditions and my traction. I ended up purchasing a TTRS for myself and an RS3 for my wife. Being able to put the power down fairly reliably on virtually any paved road when you make over 800whp and not have to think twice about it; even when it’s been raining or the roads are less than perfect-that gets addicting. Usable power when you want it is why I went the path I did.
Yo my friend off topic but just gotta say I love your channel man great videos great vibes, moving to AZ in the next couple weeks hope to see you around or maybe even hangout sometime keep doing what you do brother, also was thinking would you do another type r on the channel the fl5? I think it would be super cool!
As a stage 2 custom flex tune RS3 owner, it just does what I want when I need it to do it. It’s consistently really good and I don’t have to ever second guess it. The understated looks are a huge bonus as well. I’ve yet to be harassed by the cops whereas even with my golf r, i found it drew more attention than I wanted. Maybe that’s your thing, but I can even imagine how much cop attention the Supra would draw. I’m definitely going sleeved block full frame build sometime in the future
I just got a 2023 GR Supra 3.0 premium auto. It was the first one I’d seen in person at a dealership on the showroom floor. Didn’t even test drive it. Beautiful car. I actually get in backwards to avoid cranking my neck each time and roll in. Same when I get out, I swing both feet around and face the trunk then stand up. If you leave the windows down when you pop the trunk you can close the door without it latching back. Then lock the car with a finger on the handle or fob and hold it till the windows roll up automatically. It’s a lifestyle 😎 I try to drive it like my old Corolla mostly but it’s definitely more responsive when you gas it out. Unbelievably so at times and very exciting. 94 gas prices are no joke though so the fun is kind of relegated to when there’s work to go do 🤷🏿 which makes getting the work done even better since I get to go home in it to. A RAV4 Prime probably would have been a better choice but I’ve rarely made any of those so I figured why start now, I’m almost there!
Depends what you’re after. The Supra is loved by the public, I can’t drive anywhere without getting people film me, take pics or give shout outs or thumbs ups. Nobody is blinking an eye at an RS3. Great car no doubt but boring.
I got the supra. Although I do complain about it not having enough electronic features to play with and see, things like turbo psi, more than 2 adjustments of sport settings and cool gauges and designs that it does not have. That being said, I can understand that you might get bored with the sedan quicker. Things that I continue to appreciate in the supra include its driver focused experience. Sitting low down, it does feel like I am jumping into a race car.
I chose the RS3. More comfort, glorious engine, under the radar (provided you opt for a more subtle color), handles great (the 8Y handles much better than the previous generation), and four doors. I did like the Supra, but not as much room or comfort. The stick shift is a definite plus. Supra styling is problematic - from some angles, looks great, others - what the heck were they thinking? Anyway, $50K is going to get you a used, beat RS3, not a new one, so you have to be willing to spend $65-70K to realistically buy a new RS3. Great video, BTW
I first had a focus ST, then ‘17 Focus RS (wanted RS3 but too hard to get at the time), got a ‘21 Supra which was a great combo with the FoRS. Now just traded in the focus RS for an ‘21 Audi RS5! Supra plus RS5 SB is a great combo. Feel like we have very similar car tastes hahaha
Although I would certainly pick something like an M2 over a Supra, I agree largely with what you said. I own and S3 currently and would pick an RS3 for the daily usability, sound and tenability. As you said, it can really do it all but I do agree, with the nature of the awd, it may not be as exciting as a rwd car with similar power. I'm a VW/Audi boy, I just gravitate towards them because I like being low key, and not drawing to much attention to myself but if you can have something more roomy and comfortable for the every day, I think a Supra or M2 would feel more special/exciting.
Two tough options. I went with the 2023 A91 Supra 6MT. Every time I drive, it puts a smile on my face. Yes it's like a cockpit and race car, not as spacious as the RS3, but as a weekend drivers or fun car MKV all day
Supra all day. The amount of attention it gets makes you feel like you’re in a super car. It makes you feel great. The rs3 gets no attention unless you’re a car guy and you know what that car does. For me I need to keep looking back at my car after i park it and it has to feel special. The Supra checks all those boxes for me.
@@davepaturno4290 an M2/M3 are considerably more aggressive looking compared to an RS3. From the hood, fender badges, wide rear arches, quad tip exhausts, etc. From personal experience of having an M3 and M4, a lot of people do look.
@rwac07 I've see both on the road and I can tell you from my experience with my 2024 45th Anniv Supra in Mikan Blast color that my car gets far more attention, in a good way. Especially here in the southwest, Toyotas/Supras are well-respected.
@@davepaturno4290 I made no comparison to the Supra. My next car is a GR Supra that I’ll be picking up in a few weeks, I don’t doubt that it would get more. I just think it’s unfair to compare an M to an RS3 looks wise
I’ve always been a fan of sleeper cars. What better way to do it in than the RS3. I went with the RS3, I got my 8Y RS3 in December and it’s been a riot to drive. Been to about 3 car meets so far and I love how only a few people comments on the RS3 lol. Every comment was about how rare it was to see one in Vegas and when they hear the 5 cylinder it sounds sooo gooood in person. I like to stay incognito and the RS3 is perfect. I love everything about the car and if I had to do it again, I would go with the RS3. What better way to haul the boys around quietly and get rowdy all in one car? RS3!! Can’t wait to start modding it.
Funny enough I've got an 02' Chevy Silverado daily & an 06' Infiniti G35 Coupe. Planning on selling the G and saving up for a while... Interested in the 12-28k+ $ range for a "fun" car I was thinking 18'+ Mustang 5.0... Lost of my (wrap) customers own them. I'm 6'3" so I fit well in them. Would love to have a Mach 1 for the tremec!
I personally bought bought a 2020 Supra used for 48k, was looking at rs3s too but only saw them around 58k. I test drove the Supra and liked it so I bought it. It’s my only car BUT I don’t use it as a daily cause I drive a work truck home so don’t really use it on the weekdays.
just got an rs3 about 8 months ago still no where near bored of it although i do see how it could get boring. it is simple bolt ons and e85 with a unitronic tune and it just is the perfect day to day car. with being able to put it in dynamic mode and it being a full sports car to comfort mode and it being nice quiet soft car just makes it very enjoyable. still cant beat the looks of that supra though. both options are very good but the rs3 is just an amazing all around car in my opinion
I went with the RS3, just made the most sense for me personally. At the time I was looking for a fun car I could enjoy and live with everyday. No regrets, this one will stay in my garage for years to come. Respect to the Supra though, the B58 is a monster and damn is it gorgeous.
I love the 5 cylinder but I love the entire a90 package. My s2000 was more than practical enough as an only car so a90 without hesitation. My s550 will suffice until f82/a90 get a little cheaper. Love this video
question cause ive been kinda nervous to test how fast you really can be going on a turn with the supra , is it about like 70ish without the car losing control ?
Kinda hard to compare them imho cause owns a sports car and the other is the ultimate daily, tho if I had to pick I'd say RS3 all around cause 5cylinder go hard and sound epic. Unfortunately no manual option with rs3 ):
I’ve been driving big cars my whole life. I have a camper van, another van, a jeep rubicon, model X and a raptor. I finally convinced my wife to sell the raptor and get a Supra! I can’t wait, delivery is in May!! First time driving a sports car 😊.
I have a focus st 2013 and I’m planning to get a manual Supra. But they are very difficult to reserve in Saudi as 2024 model reservations have not opened yet. I have an F150 two cabin as well so worries like you said on the two door. But my wife keeps asking to get an automatic so she can drive it😅. I want the manual because #savethemanuals as this is probably the manual can I will own
I would choose the RS3 I just think handling can always be improved, the sound is immaculate so is B58 but to me a 5 pot turbo just sounds insane. Also more of a VAG guy anyway but I love BMW as well which is what the Supra is
Im between the Supra and a used 718 cayman but the rs3 has always been at the back of my mind. I have a 2018 4Runner right now and I wasnt planning on trading it in and I don't see it breaking anytime soon. Your point of view of getting a true sports car while you can eliminates the RS3 for me, but now im between the Supra in which case I love pro drag racing and I can really make it my own and super street build it but on the other hand I can get a Porsche with top of the line luxury and very good performance albeit less reliable and more expensive to maintain.
Since you already have a 4 door car, I'd personally go with the 718 Cayman. I love my RS3, but it doesn't usually make sense to have two cars that fulfill the same objective.
I currently own a 2023 Corolla SE AWD hybrid (my daily) and a 2008 Lexus ISF (summer car). I'm waiting for the car market to cool down a bit and get an RS3. The B58 is great, but it's used in a lot of BMW models. On the other hand, that sweet DAZA engine is the only 5 cylinder motor in production today, and only found in TTRS (discontinued in 2022) and RS3 in North America. So that makes it a little rare and special in my opinion. It's not that common you hear a 5 cylinder on the road. Also the AWD is a bonus when it comes to driving in snowy conditions.
I drive a 2014 Subaru STI as a daily. And I recently bought a 2004 WRX to replace it as the daily. Personally, I would probably go Supra. Mainly because it would be more the weekend car than anything. More of like, go out to a nice dinner and take the girlfriend/wife and leave the 2 Subies at home. (I don't have a gf or a wife lol) but it would be more for like a fun weekend car than anything. Now, if I only had my 2014 STI...I'd still probably go with the Supra just for that fun/project car potential.
If only 1 car then RS3. If I could have 2 then it would be Supra and another car. If I could have 3 cars then it would be RS3 for daily, a family truck/suv, and a RWD sports car.
When my wife and I first had kids, she had a sedan and I had a coupe and sportscar. The insurance was very reasonable because my mileage was split in half. Don't wait until your kids start driving to have fun. I never DIDN'T have a fun sportscar, even now.
you mentioned everything but LOOKS the supra just looks way better , I drive a 2020 supra tuned and I can never go back to any other car it just amazing , and the fact that its a coupe isn't that bad either cuz it means you will not be the driver in your friend group lol , either way they r both great cars you cant go wrong with either of them
Hmmm I would think the m240i would be the better choice over the 2. Better newer tech over the Supra, 4 wheel drive with the same drivetrain and rear seats.
Um I couldn’t compare a sedan vs a coupe. Better comparison would’ve been against a m340. Great video though. If this was a fun secondary car I will always choose a coupe the driving experience and dynamics just always feel different. I’ve had an subie sti, Evo x , 340i, tl type s , and they were good but didn’t feel like my coupes c7 z06 built 950whp, 2012 nismo 370 stillen supercharged 550whp, Camaro ss 1le , etc…. I will say a sedan that is highly underrated is the ats v and ct4 v blackwing they just are so damn driver focused and the mag ride suspension is fantastic. And they offer manuals unlike a lot of companies nowadays. I’m currently building a 2018 m2 lci manual to be around 680whp on flex fuel. Let’s not forget about the new m3 with s58 I’d choose over an rs3 everyday. Those things are nice and comfortable for daily and you can easily get 800hp with dp and flex fuel with tune.
RS3, I wish I had waited just a couple months to finance one even tho I like my 7.5 R. The Supra is cool and that B58 is a beast but the 5 cylinders is just perfect and the 5 seats+ trunk and overall car fact is the only choice.
What about BMW’s M340i, I think it has the same motor as the Supra. I’m pretty sure it can come with the xDrive option. And it’s a 4 door. Not say your comparison wasn’t good. Love the video. But I will say most of the downsides about it being a coupe and launching from a stoplight can be nullified by getting the M340i. To be fair I could be wrong. But still a viable option if you want the B58 but 4 door all wheel drive.
I have a stage 2 TTRS and a Stage1 N55 M2 ( Similar cars to rs3 a supra) I would go for the Supra over the RS3 ( and my ttrs is a car il never sell and im selling my m2) this is going by the fact that you like the driving dynamics, i do find audi's 4WD proper annoying but i think it depends where you live, 4WD is very helpful but nothing beats a RWD car
I've rented a McLaren, 911, F-Type, LC500, i8, C8, etc but I ended up with a 2024 Supra. I get the same feeling when I walk towards the Supra as I did doing the same with most of the cars above. It's that special feeling that has me looking forward to my next outing. The other satisfaction factor is knowing that others look at the car as one they can afford, either now or as a used one, some day. In other words, it is an attainable ride that is undeniably unique. The Audi and M2 are okay, but not comparable to the Supra in style and exclusivity.
The RS3 is much more rare than the Supra. Every Toyota dealership has one. RS3s have wait lists for months. Also, the RS3 is the only car left with a 5 pot. There’s like 20 cars with a B58, including mommy wagons like the X3m40i.
@user-gi9uh4fr2z No, most Toyota dealerships were getting one Supra every 3 - 8 weeks. That's why ADMs were so high for years. The Supra looks unlike any other car by a long shot. The Audi blends right in with other sedans, kinda like the Lexus IS500, but without the excellent reliability of that Lexus. Supras have been very reliable.
As an owner of both - at high power levels too - the rs3 is the better car to me. Exhaust note, interior, awd, sound system, dsg make it better overall. The Supra though, has the exterior and turns more heads especially the non-car folks.
Man i would personally have to go RS3 but god do i love me a S58 they are so so good but i love 4 doors and Audi 5cyl engines they make orgasmic noises
RS3 Sportsback but they don’t have those in America. So I would probably do the Supra but as a second car. Supra slammed out being your only car in a city is crazy.
When considering factors such as reliability and lower maintenance costs, which of the two options-Audi RS3 or Toyota Supra-stands out as the more favorable choice?
As an RS3 owner the reliability has been second to none for me, I've done nothing outside of oil changes and plugs. Car is FBO E85 and see's redline every time I take it out. The B58 in the Supra is also rock solid from what ive heard, maybe some Supra guys can chime in here..
If you want a B58, for around 40k, get a 2020 M340i. The DME can still be bench unlocked. 2021 and older needs to be sent to Femto. Plus you can get RWD or AWD. I’ve had both a GTI and My current car is the M340. I was looking into an RS3, but the price and it being a daily with the infotainment kit is not that great. Also the lack of standard features for the price compared to others is not that good compared to an M340. When you tune the RS3, it sends only 50% of the factory torque to the rear.
After you tune an rs3, you should be getting a haldex controller. The controller paired with properly setup suspension and that power, you can easily push the rear out.
I was only looking at supras until I seen this video. Checked out the market. Supras a lower in price with better mileage. Couldn’t find an RS3 same year same mileage and similar price. Also, what would be the comparison on the maintenance and reliability? Don’t you think the supra wins in that regard.
Absolutely! Audis after the warranty expires can drain your cash rapidly. Supras are not Toyota - reliable, but they have been at least average in this category.
Love the looks about the supra, nice and powerfull engine with big numbers possible with decent tuning for not to much money. But the chassis aint that stiff, needs more driving caracter (like an M2) Had a m140i with almost similar engine and zf8 speed and it got a bit boring. Driving arround 95% ar sport +. Powerslides with one finger, stage 2+ tunes with 545hp on e40 mix. Crazy fast but 0.0% driving fun in corners. Changement suspension to bilstein b16 pss10, powerflex bushings for subframes, diff,… Nou i have a focus RS in stealth grey with 427hp and i feel more alive in this car! But i think when i would chose, i would go back in time… Oldskool cars like an e90 M3, not to digital. Or an Audi RS4 B5, also nice sounding cars these 2. The E9x platform isnt that fast but for me its becomming about the feeling and not the speeding… Okay everybody wants to drive fast with these cars, but you can also have a lot of fun in lower speeds Just my 2 cents 😅 But love the way the supra looks and sounds🎉
Sir, I have listened to you thoughts but…….. Try driving in Scotland with 2 wheel drive 400+ rear drive. Quattro every time. You really need to understand that we don’t drive at 20degree +. Grip stops you crashing.
When you look at these cars in person, the RS3 just looks like any other car but with trash can exhaust tips. The Supra stands out, you can see its something special, you know its a sports car. The Supra is a car that you will turn back to look at when you walk away
