Sustainment or nothing! It doesn't matter how expensive your rifle is|StumpTalk: Ep 2 

Would like to combine this with the recent Dirty Civilian video of putting together a scenario based ruck setup. Pick your made up scenario, the Chinese have invaded or whatever. The mission is to conduct an ambush or recon on a suspected enemy base. The locations is 10 miles on foot to the target. Pull up a map, explain what route you’ll take to get there, where you’ll set up camp, etc. and then talk through the packing list.

You hit the nail on the head. Sustainability resources are just as important as combat gear. Logistics, positioning, and the ability to coordinate are underrated.

Honestly a seriously underrated topic. Sustainment without resupply is something a lot of people don't consider

Amen. People also need to be fit enough to move the equipment. When I look at on-line ordering of pants I constantly see the 32 inch waist available but the 36 inch and bigger sold out. That tells me a lot.

I like it, this is something I don’t hear to much about people think they are going to grab there bag and go. It takes a lot of calories to maintain and most people will have a twinkle and a bottle of water and think they are good. Big fan of specific topics like this .

Bro you’re spot on! Keep on keeping on

Even better question, have you thought out the aftermath of an engagement. Most people think about what they're going to do if they have to engage. They don't think through what happens next. Or of the long term consequences of engaging at all. Do you have medical assets to handle the wounded? How do you transport them? Do you have a plan if the adversary pursues you? Again, how do you handle the wounded? How does the group handle being short handed if you lost people. Plus there is a bunch of things you should be asking before you even think of engaging. Will this engagement seriously hamper the group's survival? What are acceptable losses? Can we sustain any losses? Will this draw the attention of other groups of adversaries? If this is a part of a larger force will it bring the entire force down on our heads? All of this and a multitude of other issues have to be considered. As you noted, we are not the US military and don't have their resources. We should scale our operations to our actual abilities. Small groups don't have strategic reserves and should avoid conflict like the plague. Kill one group and ten more who heard the shooting may come to investigate. Or the main force of the scouts you just whacked. And even if you're large enough to have a strategic reserve, you also have to deal with finite resources. You are limited in manpower, ammunition, medical facilities, and fortifications. My thinking is to avoid engaging unless you are absolutely sure of both victory and there are no other hostiles in the area. The mission objective is to survive. Anything that compromises that mission for your group should be evaluated soberly and honestly.

im a fan, ive been talking this for 5 years, to people in micro black camo chest rigs who have no concept, then want to tell me they can ruck 65lbs 30 miles. one dude took me up on it i paced him at 26 min per mile just viciously uncomfortable with his pack. his objection was not to not been seen~first 4 miles he was OK then absolutely walked out onto a logging road. i was glassing him from 670 meters he eventually got within about 120 meters of me i moved down to him and ended his will. he asked me whats the closest i got to him physically? it was 8.33 meters when he started a fire the same night he left, i had already baby oiled my camo off and he refused to believe anyone got that close. his face when i dumped out half a walgreens aisle of makeup, 2 pounds of beef jerky, 48 ounces of water and my leupold. his face was like handing a graduating law student a clown horn. (hes currently covered in nail polish somewhere in the high desert looking for sheep probably dieing from DBP poisoning)

Real talk. So called sustainment bags are a joke nowadays. I love my Osprey 105 liter.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is one of the most underrated channels on RU-vid

My problem is I’ve been duped by people my whole life and don’t trust anyone enough to sleep around them in a SHTF situation no matter how well I know my “group” You must learn to survive on your own and not depend on anyone else. This won’t be like the teams or military.

Dude!,by far one of your very best videos that I have armchair quarterbacked in a while,we need more videos like this. Sustainability is key Thanks again for opening my eyes to the reality of what advertising doesn't tell you.awesome just awesome. 👍👍👍

Good topic, often overlooked!

Love it! Keep it going Airman!🙏🏽💪🏽🇺🇲

Continue theses gems. Semper Fi.

Reality. Good word

Some one has been reading the right book. Might not be a bad idea to delve into the battle mindset. We as human can endure way more than we think.

Yes please, more of this!

Great video! Food for thought (pun intended)

If I'm planning a 35 mile movement to target, and thinking 2 days, or longer, foot travel to and two days foot travel from, I will also have to factor in an enemy that has access to fuel for vehicle which will allow him a much higher level of mobility. It will not be an even playing field.

I'd suggest cashing non essential gear before you move into the final operation zone. In fact in terrain like you have I'd suggest having emergency caches all over the place. If it was sealed in a hard container something like that brushpile behind you would be a good spot. Its visible enough that your guys could find it, yet not something anybody passing through would think to check unless there were fresh tracks up to it.

I worked USAF logistics during the Cold War and Desert Storm. Real good reality in this video. To many are reactionary.

WOW so useful!

Keep it goin'!

planning a 4 week sustainment for my family incase of storms and loss of power and such. moving it to 3 months as some of the problems seem to be going longer than they use to.

Read the book Reece by koos Stadler and the loads that were being carried on reconnaissance ops it's scary

I did a video awhile back on sharing gear. It was more about general camping and hiking, but a few didn’t grasp the concept. Good to see I’m not the only one thinking about it.

don't forget, not everyone is gonna be combat arms so to speak, a lot of people need to fill support roles. Develop essential skills and network, maybe (hopefully) you would never need to kill another human being. Medicine, farming, intel, communication, logistics, planning, etc.

Sadly I’ve seen too many comments on various threads that guys think because they’re tacticool they’ll just “acquire” the sustainments & don’t plan accordingly that there’s always a BBMF out there with the same plans. Have a well rounded approach to prepping & work on a little bit of everything to get to where you’re comfortable…..

You need to put out a book about these things. Most of the preppers/minutemen have some supplies, ammo, guns, etc..., but don't have a clue of what to do when the time comes.

Good video/info... thanks

This has got to be your best video. Best advice people can get.

thanks for great info

Good stuff to to have in mind 🙏🏽

Reality...thanks for the knowledge transfer brother...

An excellent discussion. I always point to the fact your pack should be closer to sixty pounds wet to the rally point or patrol base then downsize. A lot of stuff I see on this topic has been tainted by the GWAT. What happens when there’s no resupply or Medivac? How many days will your 20 pound pack last? Like the man said, “Logistics, logistics, logistics.”

Keep it going 👍🏻👍🏻

Good Information Sir

If you can get cut off from returning to your base, you can get cut off from returning to your cached supply packs. Right?

i like it. keep it going.

Excellent content! Looking forward to the next one! Well done! 🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸

That looks like a fun hill for sledding. Actually voting is key. In my county they didn't even have 20% turnout. Besides in 25 years there won't be people here anyway with a birthrate of 1.7 and dropping.

Keep er goin😎👍

Many good points you brought up here 👍 you should make more vids like this, maybe different scenarios like for instance Russia hits us with an emp and teams up with china for a ground invasion

Better to spend $1000 on sustainment than on a new rifle

Pack weight management - if you are supposed to keep the greatest weight higher up and close to your back, why do most all hiking bags have their water bottle pockets on the bottom? why not towards the top/shoulder and close to the back? --- just ease of use?

maybe i am just being negative but I don't expect anyone to stand up to anything these days. we wouldn't be doing this bad as a country if this wasn't the case. I just want to take care of my family, so my gear reflects this objective.

the sleeping back thing makes sense but i hate relying on other people to carry things i will need. rather have a solution ion case we split up or they die in minecraft with my sleeping solution. still would pack a woobie or swagmanroll

you are spot on with this!! everyone should have at least 2 stashes of sustainment away from home.. in a wooded area just off the road/trail where it isnt noticeable if you need it in a emergency!!! cause you might run out of what you left with, you house got overrun by rats/fire!!! you just never know nowdays!!! thanks for sharing & be safe!!

Good stuff sir. What is the cover on your bag? Thanks

Do you have Rumble channel?

Thought this would be longer. I'm working on sustainment atm. I don't have a crew so I'm figuring out what works and what doesn't. This stuff weighs a ton. I'm of the mind that if something doesn't serve two or more purposes, it doesn't serve any at all.

Me likey.

Hey bro, can you talk about running an “assault” pack that attaches to your carrier vs a backpack over your carrier? I have problems running a separate pack over my carrier.

Why do we do this? It's implicit that if you own Panos, mawls, KAC's, you've either been educated on the topics of combat, and or have your kit ready to go. It's all implicit. Idk when our community decided that everyone who invests heavily in kit has either zero training, or is a 50yr old, overweight dad, with zero preparedness. If you're investing in courses, you're physically fit enough to hike. Idk when these topics became mutually exclusive to the point that we consistently need to discuss the presumed things that guy's aren't doing, based off of their combat load out. *"What do you know Kid"* don'tet the douchey image fool you, I'm 37 a prior GOON, with the most Gucci MOS you've ever encountered; I promise! Prior Beret, that may or may not of ascended to CAG; it's the internet, so who knows? Founded a SERE academy in WA state, etc, etc. Though the discussion is fine, and I really like the idea of *"stump talk"* these topics are nothing more than a way to cater to the presuppositions of your community, that presumably do not own a LMT/KNIGHTS, MAWL, Panos, etc, and a means of reinforcing their shortcuts made on their purchases, by the implication *"I don't have all this nice sht, but I have a minute man bag, I train and I bet they don't."* We all do, so these discussions are kinda irrelivant, and it's ridiculous to presume a guy that has a $50k loadout, doesn't have a pack, ready to go. I see this logic alot online, and it's only done by those that desire to justify their inability to heavily invest in kit. 99% of us are avid hunters. If you can trek through the woods with an elk on your back, a pack and a rifle are fn nothing. Just becuase I own a set of Panos, I run mawls and KNIGHTS rifles, doesn't meant I don't have a pack ready to go. I get why this video exists, and like I said earlier I really like this *stump talk* I have idk why we feel as if it needs to be said. I really think I need to create a channel. Though I enjoy this content, aside from the military investing an obscene amount into me, I am now am analyst for the largest investment firm on the planet; Goldman Sachs. In 30 seconds I could completely shatter any presupposition people have on the reality of preparedness. I am a literal expert in geopolitics, and I swear to God, if you live in the West *YOU WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE HARDSHIP* beyond a natural disaster, and there is no conceivable scenario in which I would need to grab my go bag, and head out for the shtf in America. Now I currently live in Tokyo, and unquestionably it will happen here within the next decade, not in America though. Maybe host me on a live stream someday and I can break it down eloquently and articulatly to this community. I promise within 5 mins I will make the majority of you feel as if you've waisted decades of your life; again, this coming from someone that is a survival instructor, that has attended BOSS! Boss is a 45+ day survival school where they drop you off in the desert, and you are expected to survive with nothing but what's in your pockets. Guys, excluding something biblical, you will never need your go bag in America, your life is so perfect, you're required to invent reasons to be concerned. This is a hobby, this is a lifestyle, and there's nothing wrong with this, but recognize you are delusional to belive it's a viable skillset, needed in the 20th century, in the richest, safest, most powerful country in our world's history. Our nation has cultivated the greatest warriors our planet has ever seen. Just our geography prevents the west from ever falling. I'm a weirdo conspiracy theorists Christian as well, but trust me excluding the tribulation, none of us will ever experience hardship in the west. I make an obscene amount of no et predicting trends in the industry, so trust me when I say it will never happen.

100%. Would love to see how you pack your ruck and how you combine it with an assault pack. How would you scale up or down based on the mission.

Food is heavy. 3 days of food, even in condensed form, is not light. You have to balance them out. Can't fight if your backpack only contains food. And your back and shoulder can only carry so much. There is no realistic way to pack 7 days of food inside your backpack WITH other gear and ammunition. Just not possible.

What shoes are you wearing?

I did not like this video and format. I LOVED IT!

Read the book Reece by koos Stadler and the loads that were being carried on reconnaissance ops it's scary