Suzuki V-Strom 1000cc vs. 650cc review

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If you are looking for a adventure bike at a good price the V-strom from Suzuki is a fine machine. The question is though do you go for the 1000cc or the 650cc? are they the same bike with just a power difference? ...in short no not at all and yes at the same time! watch to find out my thoughts!
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@johnnyViDeO 6 лет назад

I've owned both and I give the nod to the 650 for better economy, lower cost, and smoother engine. Either way, you're riding one of the best values in motorcycling: durability, versatility, performance, sportiness, COMFOFT, and just plain FUN! V-Stroms ROCK!

@JoIs033 6 лет назад

I'm planning to buy a 650 XT how good is the suspension for some jumps, and whats is the deepest it can go through water and finally are the brakes reliable?

@pentachronic 6 лет назад

I think you have similar thoughts to me !! Bit of mud and dirt and not just street !!

@johnnyViDeO 6 лет назад

It's no dirt bike, but it's pretty competent for mild off-roading. I've seen some videos where the bike is half under water and still chugging through. At 460/520 lbs, they're among the lightest adv bikes, but you're not going to get much height on your jumps. They're best kept on dry fire roads or hard-packed gravel roads; putting on a set of knobbies increases their capabilities. 80/20! Watch nutnfancy's review of his DL1000 in the Utah desert. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pULTs4jSiKA.html

@toby7504 6 лет назад

Absolutly agree...as a commuter in the 650 are better than a dl1000, it runs cheaper in fuel economy and the engien are smoother. On long trips fully packed l do miss some horsepower but it vil still take you to the end of the world and back...that said..l have old 04 dl650 and l know the new one are better.. I just love mye old girl

@chtomlin 5 лет назад

@@toby7504 You will always like the one you are on at the moment, but one is better for short runninging around and one is better for longer trips, especially if loaded up. If you are going to load it up and go long, the the 1000....if you won't load it up and rarely go long, then the 650 really is a star.

@stormbytes 6 лет назад

A terrific, down-to-earth real life comparison of the two V's. Personally I was back and forth between the two and this video really helped me settle on the DL650. The real life first-person perspective shown in this review gives viewers a narrated vantage point, as if you are right there riding the machine. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this and found it helpful and informative. Thanks for putting in the effort to make this.

@spicy110 6 лет назад

+Daniel Balfour thanks dude glad you liked it. That's exactly what I'm aiming for with my reviews.

@curtisbarker9272 5 лет назад

The 650 is much more fit for off road

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

@@curtisbarker9272 both are UNFIT for any kind of offroad, its purely onroad touring machine

@AzerPaul 6 лет назад

Haha, I love that you couldn't really decide. They both sound like true quality machines. Thanks.

@linwoodchatten6623 4 года назад

Just bought a 04 VStrom 1000. Loving it. Stole it for $2600 with 5700 miles on it. It’s super clean. Great job on this comparison.

@quirogan 3 года назад

Hi I got a similar offer on a 1000. This would be my first bike. I'm 50+ year old, 6ft tall. Would you recommend it? Thanks!

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Fuckin thief! 😂 Got 05 dl1000 for around 4500usd, almost perfect condition, 35kkm👍 Ehh those prices will never return....

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

@@quirogan best touring bike for the money hands down. Though varadero is even better most people say

@RevUnstableBoy 7 лет назад

I have had my 650 for about 4 years now. do I like it? well I have put 94,000 miles on it. :) I think I might.

@beanobsessedroasters9073 7 лет назад

Hi Rev - are you servicing yourself?

@luckyjim51 6 лет назад

I have a 2007 650 V-Strom.... 91,000 miles and counting.... i'd buy another one tomorrow... Its been great! I've been coast to coast and back and forth to work when there's not snow on the ground (MN, USA)

@thomaswomack3888 4 года назад

I have a 2008 wee Strom and have really loved riding it. 68000 miles and I still love it it’s a bit weak for 2 up in hilly terrain but will cruise all day long at legal speeds with two 200 lb riders. It’s a really good bike

@UncleWally3 4 года назад

This comparison has withstood the test of time; worth the watch if you’re deciding between the two ‘Stroms. After having purchased three new 650 ‘Stroms (‘09, ‘12, ‘15) with a combined odometer reading a tad under 200 000 kilometers, yesterday I came close to buying a new 1000cc ‘Strom. It was a great deal, and is a great bike. The only problem was, I rode my 650 to and from the demo ride and that sealed it for me. As far as V-Stroms go, the 650 is a jewel . . . and a keeper.

@saintetienne755 4 года назад

Probably the best review i've ever seen - brilliant - Subscribed!!

@grahamhurt8442 7 лет назад

I tip my hat. Good analysis of the strengths of these machines. I've owned an SV650 for almost a decade and it is brilliant but has its limitations. If you're new to riding and want to do day trips/commute? The 650 is it. If you want to get out of dodge and see the world? 1000 all day. It's all about how you're going to use it. I'd recommend and own both but I'm ready for the 1000cc. He nailed it though. Thanks for the comparison.

@michaelflaherty2137 7 лет назад

Love the Strom. Best informative test I've seen on RU-vid. Thanks for that, 1000 for me.

@lasseiversen5230 6 лет назад

I find this video a pleasure to watch. I like his riding style and the good review makes me want one of those 1000cc rides :)

@michelbobaril 6 лет назад

Finaly a great vidéo to help me choose between these machines, Tanks!

@jamiebye672 5 лет назад

I do love your reviews - them being done on the same roads I use helps! Had the 2005 DL1000 for several years and are looking at getting another in the next month so this vid was most helpful.

@OperationFoxley19441 5 лет назад

Love this video!! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year wishing you many years of safe riding.

@spicy110 5 лет назад

Thanks and the same to you! 🙂

@ewooll 5 лет назад

At around 10 minutes you described the on-off action of my SV650a perfectly.

@ivanmarkovic939 6 лет назад

Excellent and very honest review. You have a new subscriber. Greetings from Slovenia!

@spicy110 6 лет назад

+Ivan Markovic hey thanks and welcome!

@DynamoTightstar 6 лет назад

I thought that from the name you'd be making shaky vids in 720p! Exceptionally good camera work and quite articulate too. Overall your style of reviewing has got me subscribing mate. Really good work.

@nickbenfell4327 6 лет назад

At 67 I bought the first motorbike I owned since my twenties a Vstrom 650. It suits me perfectly for general commuting, the occasional gravel road and the camping tours I do around the South Island (New Zealand). Budget was a consideration as was economy, straight line performance wasn’t, comfort was and I dont ride two up. The thought of the performance of a litre bike scares the crap out of me. So for me the 650 is perfect for others as ‘spicy110’ says it is a matter of choosing the rignt bike for YOU. A replacement bike a V-Strom 650 for me every time.

@joebergin8113 4 года назад

Hey Nick, I am also 67 and first bike since my 20's. As you, I only ride the speed limit. The bike seems a great fit for me also.

@sv7017 7 лет назад

loved to watch this. Thx

@christopherrahilly8425 7 лет назад

Love my 2017 V-Strom 650 XT rides like a dream and being short I love the height and the weight of the bike. My previous bike was a BMW G650GS (which I love) but this is way more performance oriented. 1000 is amazing just a little to big for me height. Can't go wrong with a V-Strom. Great video!!

@lubos175 6 лет назад

Hi Chris,i have F650Gs and i thinking about Suzi 650 XT.Yes,GS is the perfect bike,but can you wrote me more about comparsion this two bikes? Thanks

@importantlookingpirate 6 лет назад

650 and 1000 is the same height.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

@@importantlookingpirate 😂 ended them all with one sentence 👍 No reason to get smaller engine

@jonathangiles4644 7 лет назад

clarity is excellent on this video fella! Another good vid 😀

@ivanmarkovic939 6 лет назад

Jonathan Giles

@lunar-firefly 4 года назад

I stumbled upon this video whilst browsing for info on the V-Strom. I try to regularly watch you so it was cool to see you'd done a review on these. I'm actually looking at buying one. Possibly a 2007 as it's within my budget, but I sat on a 2020 model and my goodness it's nice. Was standing on my tippy toes, but well worth it! Haha. Thanks for the awesome review. Was very helpful!

@FrostyPixelsOG 4 года назад

I've got the '19 650XT. Can't flat foot it, but after a few rides, didn't feel the need to flat foot, almost always have my right foot up on the peg, even when stopping/taking off. Love it sooo much.

@noelcunningham7184 4 года назад

Great reviews. I'm headed off to my own local dealer to pick up a 2020 650 Adventure model in a couple of hours. Can't wait. You got me thinking that it won't be too long until I put out a change jar to start saving up for the 1000 in a few seasons.

@amberturner2821 5 лет назад

I was debating on the 650 as an option for my first 'big' bike after I pass my test, and you've settled me on it. Everything you've said has confirmed it's the bike for me!

@FrostyPixelsOG 4 года назад

I have a '19 650XT, love love love it. Traction control is great (saved my ass when I ran wide in a turn onto gravel). ABS is good. It's pretty fast, can hit nearly 70mph in 1st gear (although you'll probably red line). I'm averageing about 49 miles to the gallon, but I generally ride a gear lower than I can be in (like the feel). You can actually use the higher gears in decently low speeds if you wanna save more gas. I put some tank grips on it, engine guard, top case. It's almost ready for cross country. Not sure why, but only downside to me is I can't find the warning light. I've seen that it's close to the ignition button on most models, but I just don't see it on mine, whatever, minor quip. It feels really good. Good seat, good suspension, comfy.

@idk8964 2 года назад

This was invaluable for me, I was going nuts trying to figure out which one to buy. Thanks!!!

@spicy110 2 года назад

Glad I could help!

@danilocapellan1316 4 года назад

Thanks great review. 👍🏼😄

@familymcd 3 года назад

I went with the 650 and I’m surprised how much less I’m riding on the expressway and how much more fun I’m having in the twisties.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Thats gay

@tsav6952 7 лет назад

My first bike was a 2006 V-Strom 650. After that I got a K13000 GT. I miss the V-Strom, so flickable in the twisties and easy to maintain. I think if I had to select I would go with the 1000 though. Both motors sounded nice on the videos. Nice job!

@kevinmullin9956 3 года назад

Thank you for a great review.Both are great bikes in many ways.My next bike will be a vstrom.

@ronniemckinnon8023 5 лет назад

Great video im thinking of getting a 16 1000 now i will

@I_am_Thursday 6 лет назад

I went up to see these guys a week or two ago and I was really impressed with them...Nice fella's. In fact, I'm thinking that a 50 odd min run up the A32 to these for a service is better than the 20 min ride into Southampton.

@andrewedmond7738 7 лет назад

Great review of both machines. I have the 1000 and just love it. I live in Australia and the distances are covered so easily and comfortably on this bike. Factory cruise control would be great, but there are plenty of after market options out there. Stay upright mate, subscribed.

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

Big distances suit shaft and cruise. Try MY14 onward Yamaha Super Tenere.

@BibtheBoulder Год назад

G'day

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Finally someone using bike like its supposed to . Litre all the way 👍

@paulbrennan5891 5 лет назад

Thank U ? The best Bike review, I have seen, ever !Very informative, un biased ,and very genuine ,I believe ! I am a V twin Bike man all my life, just love them with a passion, Suzuki sv650 ,Limited Ed Chiva X tra Rapta injected and Ducati 's, and still find for me nothing gives me the same thrill ? At 68 I still ride them Ducati St2 and a St3 with Panniers and all ! I have just travelled 440km on a tank of fuel on St3 ,after Valve And Belt service and Replacement ! However, I would like to know How far could one expect to ride on a tank of fuel on VStrom 1000 ,touring on Highways at legal speeds, 110km ? Thank U, very Enjoyable and valued yr feed back from the review, Thanks again, & Cheers from Australia !

@bartek221111 7 лет назад

I test drove both as well, but 650 first and 1000 after. My thoughts: Both are solid bikes, but 650 is all you'll ever need. Fast enough for roads, comfy, well balanced, does everything well. 1000 is exactly the same, but with stronger engine, they even look exactly the same now. The only thing to separate them is 650 or 1000 emblem near the seat. To me the answer is simple, if you have more money to spend or really want that extra oomph when you open the throttle, buy 1000. For everybody else 650 is the way to go. Simples!

@finkelsteinyablonsky518 6 лет назад

I've been looking at used dl650s in my area, decent price and it seems like a good first road bike. I'd be mainly using it for commute, camping, and joy rides but I'm not a large man (6' 170lbs) and I think the 1000 would be a tad overkill for me.

@silverback802 6 лет назад

I'm 6'2in 270 lbs and I love my 650 I have 35,000 miles on mine and it is great bike, I have ridden the 1000 and and found no need for it for my type of riding. The only off roading I do is hard packed dirt stateland roads but I do cruise at an indicated 75mph when I'm on a four lane highway

@peterrecer7372 5 лет назад

You would also think that for 2up touring? I'm about to buy one soon but it's hard to decide also because when considering price of 1000

@mr.shannon6137 4 года назад

Cant think of anything relevant that my Vstrom 650 cant do.

@hernanpatriota 2 года назад

Exactly, I got DL 1000 and is to much for every day, in hard traffic. First gear 😒 like a small hammer

@whskywolf 3 года назад

Late to the show, but nice review. I am wanting to get back on a bike and came across a New 2015 650 Vstrom, so been watching all I can to get more info on them for commuting to work mostly, but it at 55mph and 70mph for short distance.

@damienryan5713 Год назад

Thanks for the review, bloody ripper. I bought the 1000, I'm a tall fella 6'3, when I sat on it, it felt right. Wife says it's comfy on pillion as well.

@spicy110 Год назад

No problem 👍

@94SexyStang 7 лет назад

Suzuki = the Easiest/ Cheapest machines to wrench on, I've worked on a lot of bikes, Suzuki wins hands down....parts are Cheap and Everywhere, at least Here in the USA. It actually feels like a Mechanic designed the bike, anything can be done on the side of the road. When I gotta wrench on a Kawasaki or Honda, I usually Cringe....they just aren't as friendly in most cases.

@saberxzero 5 лет назад

Well your comment just took me off the fence between a versys or a vstrom! Also sweet Rich Piana picture, RIP

@WillardTurner 5 лет назад

@@saberxzero I have been wanting a versys since I got into motorcycling 8 years ago. I got a V-Strom yesterday. I no longer want a versys.

@saberxzero 5 лет назад

@@WillardTurner Hahahaha see i was still having the debate in my head and Versys was winning right now, i was ready to spend 2k more just to get one. What made you change so much? Do the look of the v-strom(uglier in my opinion) bother you at all? Dont get afraid and get in the detail my debate has been going on for a month now! I clearly need help haha

@WillardTurner 5 лет назад

@@saberxzero I do like the way versys look much better than the V-Strom. I've never ridden a versys, and I think it would be somewhat similar to v-strom. My issue was pricing. I was able to get a 2003 V-Strom with 30k miles for $2,600. Ive never seen a versys, even the 650, that cheap. Plus, the v-twin power is fun and thumpy. I'm not saying the V-Strom is better, because I honestly have no idea. However, I simply don't want the versys anymore because I'm satisfied with what the V-Strom has to offer. At a 2,000 dollar price difference, I just can't see the versys being with it.

@saberxzero 5 лет назад

@@WillardTurner Yup that is indeed my dillema. Is the price increase worth the look and slightly faster pace of the Versys. How is the sound of the v strom? From the youtube videos i've heard it was weird and not so sweet sounding but i am riding a drz400 modded to death with a yoshi exhaust so it sounds pretty mean for a dirtbike and i like that! Also daaaaamn that does seem like a great freaking price 2600 for a that low mileage is nuts. Did you increase how much you've been riding lately? I'm barely on my drz since it can barely get up to 100 without dying i feel like sucks. Do you enjoy speeding? And if so is the dr650 able to scratch that itch or does it not do much in that area?

@jedi733 7 лет назад

Nice one spicy

@springy-2112 7 лет назад

what a great video ! I applaud this thorough test /comparison .. I had the 2005 dl650 till late last year and fully luggaged with pillion it still performed well...i was going to replace it with a dl1000 or muscle bike .. Well the xjr 1300 won me over but I have great respect for both the vstroms... as you said for fun and frollicks 650...for mile munching 1000... cheers 👍liked and subscribed.😁

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

Yeah, I'm more of a frolicker than a muncher......

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

For everything 1000, both are tour bikes

@simonlutt9849 7 лет назад

Love the V-Strom, always have always will, even the old model. They are the reason why I wanted to ride motorcycles and I am still very sad that I coudn't get one that fits my requirements.

@petertaylor2148 4 года назад

You are a fantastic reviewer. I really did find this Informative. Helping me a lot .. thank you!! 🍻😎I'll test ride both but will get the 650 as I'm 5 foot 8 ".. 🤣🤣 as I say a fantastic real life review.

@spicy110 4 года назад

Thank you! 🙂

@MrWizardofozzz 4 года назад

Don't forget to look at the touring package, like the engine guard and side and top cases.. The bike would be useless without them..

@gunnerneikoify 6 лет назад

One of the best reviews of the V-Stroms on RU-vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EXCELLENT JOB!!!!!!!!!

@MrBazzle99 7 лет назад

Ive owned a 2015 V-strom 650 since new very good fun bike out in the hilly country rds near me and for work I also load it right up and go fishing on it ive thought its an underrated machine as but people who own them seem to keep them and there a strong owners group because of that. As for the height thing there is a peg lower kit for it and also the 1000cc saddle will fit on the 650, on the older models the seat is much taller for the bigger bikes and many shorties and tall rider will aactually swap seats in the owners groups

@paullangford8179 7 лет назад

I've used the V-Strom 1000 in Australia, and bought a V-Strom 650 in the U.K. I am not of the "dainty, compact" build; so the main difference I find is that the 650 goes quite a lot further on a tank of fuel. The 1000 of course had more performance, but I felt the extra weight on essentially the same frame was just that bit too much. I find I use a bit more rev's on the 650, but given mostly touring and traffic, no real difference.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

1000 is actually very good weight for litre bike, cbf 600 weights pretty much the same. Liter all the way

@Jonofthejungle26 7 лет назад

I'm so glad you did this comparison, my local Suzuki dealer only has the 650 for demo and I loved it. Always thought the 1000 would be a little big for me at 5'10" and considering most of the time I would be using it for commuting and country lane blasting I think the 650 will be more than enough.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Big is pro, not con. Dunno why people use that argument as if big bike is something bad. Especially in us where roads are huge and you have lot of space everywhere. Im 180 and 1000 is perfect for me. Even if you 170 ull still be fine with big one, its not ktm, its very civilized and user friendly machinr

@boatymcboatface5476 7 лет назад

Thank you for this review! I am trying to make this decision and now it is even harder lol. I think I just need to ride them back to back like you did. I have a DRZ400sm which is already a bit of a hooning machine so I am leaning toward the 1000. However the tank range & regular fuel (and price) of the 650 are very tempting as well! Arrrgggghhhhh!

@MrAndybell10 5 лет назад

Did you make a decision. I'm trying to choose now?

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Some offroad dual sport and big vstrom is fantastic combo to have! Vstrom is amazing for road travel, amazing engine and superbly comfortable. And im saying that as experienced adv rider

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

So yes i say 1000 all the way. Why take lesser engine? Its better to have reserve of power than lack of it lol

@MrAndrew1953 4 года назад

Great idea to do both bikes back to back. As I don't do any interstate trips anymore (Australia) the 650 with a large top box and centrestand would meet my needs.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Yeah go to bed, bikes are too fast for you 😁

@mindspinn311 4 года назад

Fantastic review. I prefer the 650, but I haven’t ridden the heavily updated 1050 and I love the look of it.

@spicy110 4 года назад

I have! I have a review on the 1050

@ziondanny7081 7 лет назад

Good review, though!

@albion2742 7 лет назад

I have a 2011 WEE I took it for a run from Cleveland Ohio to the Grand Canyon round trip. 5000 + mls. Its great bike loads of farkles on it. I was thinking about the 2017 models, but I wanted Suzuki to make a 750 / 800 versionn, so I will keep the 2011. I can pick the 650 up too if it ever falls over, dont know if at 75 yrs old I could lift the 1000.

@ericlitalien8360 8 месяцев назад

Well done!!! I have a 2011 650 strom,, it’s fine for me,, it would be perfect in 750 800 v twin!! It’s funny how you also mentioned that,,

@pentachronic 6 лет назад

Great review!!! Now I'm confused on which is my next bike !!! I had a Kawasaki Vulcan 650 many years ago and I had such a blast on it as it was incredibly flickable. Now that I have a larger ST1300 I admit I miss the flickability but the ST1300 has so much power and long distance comfort!! Might have to keep ST1300 and add the V-Strom 650 for fun mountain runs !!! I would welcom opinions on comparison to larger Sports Tourers like my ST1300. I really would like something that could do washboard trails and fire roads comfortably. Maybe putting knobbly tyres on the V-Strom ??

@holliday675 6 лет назад

Well this was as frustrating as me trying to decide what to go for, the vid was built up for a solid answer then back to square one. I am changing from a longline of super sports (currently a GSXR 750 L6) so for me it is a totally different ball game. I test rode the 2017 Vstrom XT today and loved it from start to finish. I have however thought that the power will be so much nicer in the 1000 but not really needed. I have no big trips planned and my riding will be on normal country roads and only a 40 mile round trip to work. Main worry is having the misses and luggage on the back and it feeling a bit guttless. great video though ;)

@iHarpStrategy Месяц назад

I want to congratulate you for an exceptional presentation. If any ones interested, which I doubt, my choice is the 650, purely because I will be doing the twisties more than highway. Thank you so much. Plus, less fuel, less insurance and less weight. Well done friend.

@TheMilkybarkid69 4 года назад

l bought a 1000 purely for the pillion factor, great video mate.

@DerpEye 4 года назад

A fiend of mine owns the 650, he's a pretty heavy guy. Mountain riding with luggage and passenger - absolutely no problem .

@yellperlapper 4 года назад

Great review. I agree with your comments as I have come to the same conclusion. Basically if you live in an area of open roads then pick the 1000. If you live in the country with lots of hills and Twisties pick the 650 which is such a fun bike to throw around.

@spicy110 4 года назад

Great minds think alike 😉

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

If you have common sense pick 1000 and use it as intended - touring bike

@mykecollins3255 7 лет назад

nice review..what helmet are you wearing? that's pretty sweet.thanks for sharing.take care.

@neallefroy-owen7500 5 лет назад

Watching this I want a 650. But I already have the 1000 and there is no way I'd sell that.... I felt this was a good, accurate reflection on the 1000 (never ridden the 650). I'd just add that I do regular distance touring with my wife and it works just great for that. In fact the Mrs doesn't really want to pillion any of my other bikes. I owned a 2007 DL1000 for 7 years and loved it, then test rode quite a few other bikes in this genre and was impressed by them all in different ways, but in the end the new V was the best for me, particularly taking into consideration value for money. The new V is as good as the old, but better in every way you'd want.

@impact0r 4 года назад

"The new V is as good as the old, but better in every way you'd want." Apart from the looks...

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

@@impact0r true new one looks aweful. If id buy such new expensive bike id buy 2017 africa twin as a do it all. Currently have one 640ktm for dual sport and dl1000 for road cruising and everyday comfort

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Your not losing anything by owning 1000

@Scottphoto26 7 лет назад

Being 6ft and slightly heavier build and on A2 licence I feel like the 650 would be very good for me, top vid spicy and congrats on 60k!

@scotwilson4169 7 лет назад

Scott Sharpe I've got a 2015 650 restricted and I'm 6'2", pretty damn good for me

@Scottphoto26 7 лет назад

Scot Wilson hmmm may have to have a test ride thanks!

@scotwilson4169 7 лет назад

Scott Sharpe err I doubt anyone has a restricted vstrom for you to test ride unfortunately

@carlosandleon 4 года назад

@@scotwilson4169 you got bar risers or something or is everything stock?

@scotwilson4169 4 года назад

@@carlosandleon moved on twice since the Vstrom but no it was standard in that respect. Just loaded with all the protection and panniers👍 I had a lot of fun with that bike off road, dropped it twice though and the second time broke some plastics on the fairing on the right hand side. Cost me about £250 in parts and A LOT of time trying to figure out how to take the fairing apart 😅

@riderofthehills 4 года назад

Very good and informative video.. Can you please tell which camera are u using on your helmet??

@tippy1951 6 лет назад

"there's your answer..and it's not even an answer!" lol, nice review of both bikes, btw local Suzuki dealership said about 75-80% of people who test rode both bikes picked the 650, many stated they were surprised by its relative power to the 1000 .

@spicy110 6 лет назад

Same ratio here, i think it's also the price and the insurance, fuel etc.

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

I remember a journalist (Tony Kirby of Sidetracks magazine in Australia) wrote when first testing the 650 Strom, "If you slapped 1000cc badges on it, you'd still think it goes alright!"

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

@@spicy110 Apart from providing a more engaging ride (which is enough reason for me to choose it), the 650 has lower costs in purchase, registration, insurance, fuel, tyres, chain and sprockets. More spares available from dismantlers. The extra range from the same sized tank is of huge benefit in time and convenience for me also.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Those are just inexperienced, uninformed riders who think 1000 is some power monster and that they cant handle it. Or they just can't afford it. 1000 is just objectively better. Majority is very often wrong

@fadhliyusri6652 7 лет назад

SUBSCRIBED!!

@spicy110 7 лет назад

Welcome!

@fadhliyusri6652 7 лет назад

you should do daily observation and post it every week

@Speedytrip 7 лет назад

Great review! I'm 6'1" and the 650 didnt feel too small (though I might go with tall seat and bar risers), but at 6'5", you're lucky to fit on anything :)

@robertmifkovic6325 Год назад

at that height 650 is perfect size for you. I am 5'11"

@beanobsessedroasters9073 7 лет назад

Great video - am thinking of the 650 as an alternative to my MT07 - looking for something more comfortable on longer rides. The thing that concerns me is the service intervals which seem to be every 3500 miles. Now I get changing oil more frequently - makes sense and I do on my bike - but if I have to take to the shop every 3.5k to maintain the warranty that's going to end up expensive...Tracer 700 and Kawasaki Versys are every 6000 I believe...

@CogumeloMagico28 6 лет назад

3.5 miles for a change of oil only

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Yeah what's up with that !

@rceparts9693 5 лет назад

I have Gen 1 DL1000 just love the darn thing sporty feel on the twisties, can be taken on fire roads and gravel roads with confidence. So cheap to buy second hand.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Cheap? Well i guess compared to 950adv its cheap. Bit taking it offroad? Come on, you have 10cm ground clearance and bare exhaust at the bottom, its a road bike, not adv

@RideWithRen 6 лет назад

I love my 2015 DL650, truly an excellent bike, it will cruise all day at 80 mph, goes into 90 mph with no problem, very comfortable, reliable, great gas mileage, etc. I tested a 1000 bike and found I didn't need the extra power at all.

@spicy110 6 лет назад

+Moto Rider 473 I do agree, but add luggage and a second person and now the 1000 has a place.

@RideWithRen 6 лет назад

spicy110 With a pillion I can see the need for the 1000. The 650 does just fine loaded with metal panniers and camping gear for a two week trip.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Translation: i couldn't afford 1000 so now will create some arguments to defend my "choice" :)

@gerloczyek 7 лет назад

Don't forget the substantial difference in insurance fees and miles per gallon, as well as no need for premium fuel, all in favor of the 650. That being said I own a 1000 and I love it!

@TheTomco11 7 лет назад

gerloczyek it's not that different is it?

@user-cc4pr8wc4w 7 лет назад

245 mls. and still 2 squares on my fuel gauge. "650 weeStrom"

@gerloczyek 7 лет назад

Can't answer it accurately as I haven't ridden the 650. I used to have a Transalp (600 cc) back in the day, and the 1000 is a way better motorcycle overall. Like 20 -30 years worth of innovation better. Having said that if I was to go around the world, I would pick something smaller, simpler and cheaper, like the Transalp or the 650 or KLR.

@johnmcmeekin7442 7 лет назад

gerloczyek i have 650 and am getting 59 mpg at the min riding a commute can go down to 50 when riding for fun. 1000 did 35mpg when on test ride for me lol. im 6ft5 20st so could do better figures for more slender peeps lol

@GaseousWorm 7 лет назад

gerloczyek I see the compression for both the 650 and 1000 are very similar . 11.2 and 11.5 if I remember. Can anyone explain to me why the 1000 needs premium and 650 can go with regular when both have almost exactly the same compression? I live in South America. Fuel is here is crap.

@NigelGriff 4 года назад

I own the 2018 1000 and fucking love it, the XT version. I've taken it on some decent off road and handles it perfectly unless you start doing real sketchy stuff like deep loose gravel, sand or mud.

@comva5230 4 года назад

I put the straight street tires on my 650 The Metalar next tire They r great best I ever rode

@Mr-Linderman 7 лет назад

Hi spicy110, first off great vid, second, wondering if you will get a chance to test ride a Kawasaki 2017 Versys 650 and 1000 and let us know your thoughts, I currently ride a SFV650 while I'm learning and its a great bike but like you i am just shy of 6ft4 and the SFV is rather cramped, I am looking to upgrade in the next 4-6 months and the new 2017 V-Strom and Versys has caught my eyes as the best possible options for my style of riding and height, both bikes that will do it all with compromise while not costing a fortune, a bit of twisty on the weekends and commute on the week, maybe a long trip with the Mrs, thanks for the great vid. Jack

@ohno690 3 года назад

Everyone has their own preference. I had both the SV650 and the SV1000. When I decided I wanted a V-Strom there was only one option for me...1000 all day long. My bike is a hobby and not a daily commuter so I don't place any emphasis on fuel economy or running costs. I ride my bike for the thrill and I'm happy to pay a little bit extra for the experience. My 2015 DL1000 Desert Edition still produces over 50mpg and I couldn't care less about the cost. If it was delivering 30mpg I'd still choose it.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Exactly

@2wheelsrbest327 7 лет назад

Agree with you spicy if I could persuade swmbo I would definitely trade in my GS for the 1000cc. Sadly not going to happen even though its good value.

@easternmenace 7 лет назад

Yeah next year I will have to try and do the MOT earlier since now everyone is riding but I can't

@josephzanghi3036 5 лет назад

I'm 6-2 and weigh 275 and have ridden my 2014 vstrom 650 43,000 trouble free miles and I love it. It's comfortable with more than enough real world power, It's a keeper. I also have a 2002 Kawasaki 1500 drifter. It rides totally different. I wouldn't sell either one. Love them both.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

There no such thing as enough power. I have 1000 vtrom 100hp, i wouldn't say no to having 160+ hp

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Or in other words: do i lack power? No. Do i need more power? Lol ofc not. Do i want more power? Fuck yeah!

@BlueMarbleRider 6 лет назад

Think you should have ridden them in reverse order. Had a 2013 650 and have a 2016 1000. The 650 is electric bike smooth and very liveable. Fabulous economy. The 1000 is incredibly torquey - so you can go higher geared and cruise. Also the 1000 is better handling, less top-heavy feeling at slow speed. I have 2 upped both on multi day many thousand mile trips. The 650 is great below 70, but runs out of oomph uphill two up when passing. The 1000 is the better tourer/ 650 is perhaps the better commuter. Yes the 1000s have a slipper.

@falchiherve2024 5 лет назад

i own a 650 2018 yellow one...... just the best bike i have ever owned.... i m in love

@Sam-w9des 5 лет назад

spoked rims?

@peterdejong1610 6 лет назад

I ride the new 650. I had the same problem chosing one. I chose for the lower costs. I hired the 1000 a few times and i noticed that it eats tires because of the high torque. But they are both great bikes.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Eat tires 😂 Ownership bias....

@YevZakharov 4 года назад

If you can afford the 1000 over the 650, just do it. There are absolutely no negatives with have more torque. Also, what you don't notice at first is that the 1000 has diff suspension, more fairings, more design features, etc... At first glance they look identical, but take a closer look and you'll find that you do actually get more than just a bigger displacement. Either way, Vstroms are amazing.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Finally some common sense thank you! Especially for first gen 1000 is better because prices are the same

@Paladin84125 6 лет назад

Most excellent video, except for riding on the wrong side of the road. Been looking for a new toy, and this helped. Out grown my KLR 650, and don't like riding my big Harley an more. How is the leg and head room?

@topgun8683 7 лет назад

That was a nice scenic ride spicy?

@cloggsy1971 7 лет назад

Great review Spicy; the 650XT would be my choice. Friendlier & more 'useable' than the 1000, but, like you say, there isn't much between 'em... 👍🏻👌🏻

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Yeah keep repeating heard bs about usability. Ownership bias says hello. 1000 is objectively better bike

@vf5126 4 месяца назад

What a premonition! ..suggesting a “V-Strom 800” - and 5 years later.. Yes. Though, I’m hanging on to my ‘21 Wee-strom 650 XT ADV!

@spicy110 4 месяца назад

I have ridden the new one too! 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Pmb4jS-c44.htmlsi=uy7QAsKlCtk9-VHA

@eduardorebelo 3 года назад

I got a 650 for about 5 years now. I'll get a 1000 as soon as I have some $.

@johnmcmeekin7442 7 лет назад

im 6ft5 and completely agree with your reviews. I bought the 650 with hand guards. i just couldnt justify £60 a month extra for the 1000 before insurance etc. but both bikes are great. good vid

@spicy110 7 лет назад

+John Mcmeekin thanks gald you agree 👍

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

That's why so many more 650s - its cheaper. And then by ownership bias they defend online why its "better" 😂 Damn online advices you can never trust people

@mcragosta 7 лет назад

1000 all the way - unless you're a penny pincher. I put almost 20k miles on a 650 and now have over 20k miles on big V. Loved the 650 when i had it, but could never go back now. Besides more power, the 1K has better suspension, brakes, ergos, and handling. Get the 650 for saving pennies on gas.

@spicy110 7 лет назад

+mcragosta yer it's surprising how diffrent they are! But both good in their own ways.

@kalel33 7 лет назад

I test rode both and chose the 650. I guess it depends on what you're using it for and where. I live in Colorado. The twisties and fire roads just felt so much better on the 650. I could easily see the 1000 as a wonderful tourer.

@windfall35 5 лет назад

I’ve done a lot of research comparing the 1000 and 650 and found this video to be the most useful in its assessment of the character of each bike as well as the circumstances in which one might choose one over the other. I put my order in on a new 650 XTA today based on my height (5’10”), the fact that I drive mostly on my own and my preferred venue for driving is winding country highways. My last bike was a bmw r1200GS - a lovely engineered machine but quite a big machine. I’m missing the ‘carving ski’ element that I think the 650 will offer - I thought long and hard about the 1000 (and don’t think you can make a mistake in either choice...) but ultimately decided that ‘less may be more’ and flingability is a nice feature. Thank you for the excellent set of perspectives that a buyer mulls over...

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

@Mojo I never would have thought that this could descend into a pissing contest!

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

Get the 1000 for wasting pennies on purchase, fuel, registration, insurance, tyres, chains, sprockets and sessions with a psychologist.

@adamkaminski Год назад

That punch you got with the 1000 is what makes the big difference , in it favor LoL

@billyrock8305 6 лет назад

No brainer mate. 650 hands down. Please clarify cameras and mic used for production. Great video mate! Cheerio!

@illusivec 4 года назад

I was planning to get a 650 but I wasn't aware it didn't have a slipper clutch. My previous bike was a KTM Duke 390 and I'm pretty used to downshifting with no regards to rev or clutch control. I'm not sure if I want to lose that. Also, getting to 70 on 6th gear @5000 RPM sounds bad. My duke was able to reach pretty much exactly the same speed on the same gear and revs. With a 390CC, single-cylinder engine. I don't get how VStrom with 1 more piston and 200CC more volume is getting the same speed. I think I'll either look into Duke 690 or maybe a BMW 800GS or something. Thanks for the very informative video.

@nibblesful 7 лет назад

do you change visor when it gets dark or just not ride in the dark just wondering

@andrewshore262 5 лет назад

I’m picking up the 1000cc model in a few weeks (an ex demo) fantastic deal, I wanted the extra horses but either bike looks good value for your money. Great review it was useful for me in helping me decide 👍

@windfall35 5 лет назад

I've recently sold my R1200 GS this Spring and have been doing alot of research on a small group of bikes that might replace it. I found this video to be the best of the many reviews of the 650/1000 Suzuki, particularly since it tries to reconcile the eternal question of 'which machine is the better choice?' The meaning I took away is that either machine is a wonderful choice- and in making your choice you need to apply laser-like discipline to answering the questions "What is the machine to be used for?" AND "Which machine best fits one's particular body type..?." At the end of the day I placed an order for the 2019 650XT based on my height and age (5'10" + 60's) and the fact that I'm primarily a street driver (not much off-road but would like to have capability for dirt and fire roads) and 90% of my time is one the bike alone but wanting to do the occasional trip with my spouse.. All the reviews I went through shared the theme of the reviewer being thoroughly impressed with the 1000 but always possessing a big grin after a day with the 650. I figure at this stage I want something that connects me with the joy of being on a configurable, 'flingable' bike whose evident virtues can make a driver of modest talents (like me) an engaged rider...

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

Hey True Blue! (John Williamson, the Aussie singer) more smiles per mile on the 650. You won't regret it.

@davidfalgout7304 4 года назад

JOHN W... So how do you like the 650? I am in a similar place. 60+, want to start riding again etc. Road BMW GS's for 20+ yrs. Want a 1250, but way beyond what I can afford ( retired). Also, BMW shops are closing down in my area and other areas. I have found an almost brand-new 2015 Vstrom 1000. It has less than 100 miles. He bought it a few weeks ago but is to old to ride anymore ( health wise). He only wants $7,800 for it. I do not see how I could go wrong. WHAT DO YOU THINK? BTW, what year was, and why did you get rid of your GS . Spicy great review man! Well done! sub's and t-up!

@windfall35 4 года назад

@@davidfalgout7304 Hello David - I'm very very happy with the Vstrom....I had a 2007 R1200GS - lovely engineering and massively powerful. I'm about 5'10'" and 180 lbs in my 60's riding since age 16. A couple of things about the GS - first, I do little if no off-roading (and if I was a fan of the off-road I sure wouldn't have the skills to maneuver a Panzer like the GS!) - I'd choose a much lighter bike...Second, alot of the set up for the GS is formed by its off-road aspirations- its high stance (with a lower seat I was still just resting on the balls of my toes)- the width of the handlebars (made for standing on the footpegs) - as my wife and I like to bike I was finding the combined weight of the machine, the top and side cases and the weight with two passengers a bit of a handful, especially if you had to back up the bike in a parking lot...) The vstrom is a lighter bike with as long a wheelbase and a narrow forward-and-aft v-twin. My feet are more planted and it feels lighter. Its power band is very linear - no 'torquey' spots - just clean steady power in every gear all along the power band to 9k rpms. Its handlebars are narrower and it feels more like a carving ski...I was losing a bit of the 'fun' factor muscling a machine that felt fairly bulky - the vstrom has restored that zip and its versatility encourages a biker of modest talents to do more...Just my two cents....

@davidfalgout7304 4 года назад

@@windfall35 Thanks John!

@soldierboy425 5 лет назад

It seams to me that most 1000 owners want a 650, and most 650 owners want a 1000. This tells me that I need BOTH!

@spicy110 5 лет назад

Haha its a tough one but many go for for the 650 to save on fuel ect.

@trevorbest 5 лет назад

They should make a 750/800 ;-)

@WillardTurner 5 лет назад

@@trevorbest The new Moto Guzzi beat them to it.

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

Most 650 owners want to TRY a 1000, but in their hearts, know the 650 is best. 1000 has novelty factor only for me. I like to work WITH the bike, it's more engaging. Most riders lean either toward "throttle jockey" (accelerate hard, burning excessive fuel and rubber) or "scenery types" (at a pace to enjoy looking around with the occasional spirited fang). The former will enjoy the 1000, with the 650 more enjoyable for the latter. You know thyself best! The 650's engine speed is closer to peak torque (and efficiency) far more often than the 1000 (which had horrid drive train snatch in the first model).

@MrBenHaynes 4 года назад

@@WillardTurner Doesn't mean Suzuki can't come late to the party. They already have a shaft driven 805cc twin in their cruisers. What would that drive train be like in this all roads tourer?

@hildtonmcconnell5626 5 лет назад

The 650 is more than enough to go long distance on, they have crossed Canada and done Labrador ( Labrador has one road across it and very few gas stops a ADV dream ) and when crossing Labrador your are fully loaded extra gas and most carry spare tires, and camping equipment. When visiting Newfoundland I met 2 who just came across Labrador one on a 650 V-Strom and the other on a larger KTM and the guy on the KTM said if he were to do it a gain he would want the 650 V-strom . I do not know why people want the over size ADV other than the Cool Factor of having a large bike or to go flying down the major hi ways & if you like Major hi ways get a cruiser that is what they are made for.

@slakk5093 10 месяцев назад

Suzuki watched this, used your idea for a vstrom 800 😄

@northerniltree 5 лет назад

I settled on the Suzuki V-Strom 650 to truly adventure tour out west. It seems silly to have a super powerful, super heavy bike loaded with all manner of camping gear and expect to off road with any ability. If it falls over, I can pick it up without a flinch. It's easy to insure, gets awesome fuel economy, it's reliable as can be, and easy to purchase. The BMW R1200GSA I thought I wanted will have to wait until the 650 says otherwise. If I want a screamingly fast pavement pounder, I'll use my BMW K1600B for that!

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

The copium is really strong with this one 😂

@rogerdepretto440 Год назад

Own a DL650 rode around OZ 2up with the wife didn't have a problem sitting on 110klms all day😊

@spicy110 Год назад

Nice!

@tomassoyweyvon4902 2 года назад

As my Wife would say, Go Big or Go Home, the 1000 xt is the one, thanks there Cousin, Tip the Hat to you for a Great comparison!! from the Rockies....Safe Travels!

@njminer 4 года назад

Having had several bikes from a SV650 to a Speed Triple 1050 and a BMW R1200 ST I've come to realize it's whatever meets your riding needs. 35 years later I'm going back to the middleweight (650-800 cc) bike and I'd take an 800 V-Strom in a minute.

@BibtheBoulder Год назад

Bet you're over the moon at the impending arrival of the V-Strom 800......

@tuanoful 5 лет назад

I'm buying one next year. Commuting and weekend warrior stuff. 90% road and maybe 10% easy trails. HOWEVER, weekend trips would be 2UP. I think that the 1000 is the answer. I'd love to hear from owners, specially 2UP owners.

@tuanoful 5 лет назад

@Stout Krout Thanks, I'm just now reading this. Yeah, given that I plan to use it 2UP with panniers and top case. I agree that the 1000 would be best. My experience is with a KLR (own one) and a r1200gs (rented), so I think I'll be comfortable on the big girl.

@ernied2737 7 лет назад

Watching this vid and reading the comments made me want to ride. So just now, after I mowed my front lawn, I jumped on my '11 VSTrom DL650 for a quick ride thru the neighborhood. I don't ride it enough since bought in Feb. But everytime I come back home, I have a big smile on my face. Got to break in my new armored vest and always with my Hi-Viz Bell helmet, gloves but was wearing shorts/tennis from lawn work. I like the new Vstroms' esp the 1000. Howdy from TX.