SVS SB-2000 Pro Review: Pinnacle of Value?

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My thoughts on the SVS SB-2000 Pro sub. So many things to say, I surely didn't cover it all, but I think you'll more than get the gist of it. I didn't talk too much about how it not only adds to the bottom end, but it also makes for a more palpably full sound, even in music where the bass is not front-and-center, like acoustic music. It adds a sense of ease and space.
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Multiple Subs video: • Multiple Subwoofers - ...
SVS Website: www.svsound.com/products/sb-2...
- My current primary rig (at the date of this video)-
Magnepan 1.7i
SVS SB-2000 Pro subs (pair)
Crown XLS 1002 power amps (pair)
Schiit Freya S preamp
SMSL SU-8 DAC
Mac Mini w/ Roon
MoFi StudioDeck with UltraTracker cart
Lounge Audio LCR MKIII phono pre
- Room Treatment -
GIK 242 & 244 Panels
GIK Monster Bass Trap
GIK 6A Alpha Series Bass Trap Diffusor/Absorber (6")'
GIK Evolution PolyFusor © - Sound Diffuser / Absorber Combination
DIY Absorbers (wooden frame with acoustic foam and fabric covering)
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@tonyvaldiconza3914 3 года назад

Hi Tim, saw your review on Steve Guttenberg's site last year. After watching your review of the XLS1002 and others I jumped in and got a pair @$289 each. They're driving .7 Magnepan. Also saw you have the Schiit Freya S preamp, so do I! I just upgraded my SVS SB1000 using their one year upgrade program to two SB1000 Pro subs. Whoa, what a difference and having that app makes setup so easy even with the phase issues with two subs.

@tonesbones502 3 года назад

Nice review. I have one SVS SB2000 and I'm very impressed with the performance and power, couldn't imagine two.

@ronguy4420 3 года назад

Mega King Grass how about movies?

@backrack01 3 года назад

How large is your room that the sub is in?

@ronguy4420 3 года назад

I’m using 2 Sunfire HRS 12’s. My room is 12 x 24 but one end (7x6) is open to dining room. It’s hard to get it right when the room is not closed. Mine sound great to me. Watching movies is music is awesome

@Johnnytrades101 4 года назад

Great video, I am running Kef Ref R400 sub, not a HT sub, and is under powered.(Great music sub with my Kef Q950's) Added a preowned Paradigm ultracube 12, meeeh! not a good mix. Great job on your thoughts and impressions including the DSP app. Until now I was "gung ho" for one SVS SB 4000. After seeing your video last week, I checked out a heap of dual subs on You Tube. I now am convinced watching your video a second time that dual is the way to go. I am having all sorts of problems with Bass, even with Dirac Live using my NAD T758. Getting 2 SVS SB 3000!!! and looking forward to an out of body experience!! keep up the good work

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

Thanks! Yes - two (or more!) is the only real way to help fix bass issues. It takes patience to get it set up right, but the payoff is worth it.

@demonreturns4336 10 месяцев назад

Did you ever get the SB 3000s? How you been liking it?

@michaelbass5951 Год назад

I have this sub paired with klipsch RP8000ii, klipsch surrounds and klipsch atmos. Powered by Onkyo RZ50. Love it!

@ulflarsson9693 4 года назад

Good review.

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

Thanks!

@gregmartinez5836 4 года назад

Thanks for the great video!

@mrq1701 Год назад

For listening to music, did you have to locate the subwoofers forward of the left and right main speakers? Is there a delay that you can hear ?

@syedhassanal-mashoor5414 3 года назад

Hi Tim, can I pair my SB2000 with this new SB2000 Pro? How do I set them up? Thanks

@robertm8518 3 года назад

What room analysis app and microphone are you using ? Great review!

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

Thanks! I use REW (Room EQ Wizard) and the miniDSP UMIK-1.

@stevemann3078 3 года назад

I strongly believe whether it is SVS subwoofers or other makes probably the 1,000 or mm if you go dual is better than going with the huge door size up just one subwoofer it's more important to go smaller Subs but two of them and you'll get better balance sound what do you like bass a lot or not as much you can set it to how you want it enjoy it so.

@ulflarsson9693 4 года назад

The xtz 10.17 edge and 12.17 edge subs also have the same dsp in them.

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

I’ve been seeing more and more mentioned about XTZ. I may have to check some of their stuff out.

@troyhenry3267 Год назад

Tim, nice review. I'm converting a small bedroom into a dedicated home theater room measuring 12 x 12 x9. Please advise if a pair of SB1000Pros or... SB2000 Pros would be enough for a room this size?

@WWeiss-nv5vz Год назад

SB1000 or Micro

@ThunderStruckMTB 4 года назад

Just ordered an SB-2000 Pro to replace my SB-1000 and am pretty excited. Any tips regarding the APP? I have a huge room gain centered at 35hz which makes any sub sound like a 1 note wonder, and I hate what Audyssey does to my speakers, so the Pro's onboard EQ should be great. Nice review.

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

Thanks! The app has two options that can help with that room gain - #1 the room gain compensation and #2) the EQ. First, I'd try turning on the room gain compensation, try both the 31 and 40Hz settings. Then after listen to that for a while, you can try the EQ (remember to turn off room gain compensation, you won't want both on at the same time); Perhaps set band 1 (PEQ1) with a center frequency of 35Hz, a boost of -3dB, and a Q of 2. You could then play with the boost and/or the Q (the higher the Q number, the shorter the band around the center frequency it will affect, but this can sound odd at extreme settings, and can make seats other than the sweet spot sound real funny). A lower Q will sound more natural, but could roll off more than you want.

@ThunderStruckMTB 4 года назад

@@timbathras2660 Awesome reply!! Thanks for the effort and time. I'll update you and also reach out if I have any questions.... thanks again!

@waymonfrench2077 4 года назад

@@timbathras2660 what's your subwoofers settings and avr

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

Waymon French I don’t have an AVR, I’m using an SMSL SU-8 DAC, Schiit Freya S preamp and a pair of Crown XLS 1002 power amps. My sub settings will differ *drastically* from what will work for you. I have the high pass crossover on my main speakers set to 80Hz and low pass on the subs is 80Hz as well with a 24dB slope. This caused the least phase issue at the crossover point for me. The front sub I have set to negative polarity. The rear sub is set to default positive polarity but with phase set to 37 degrees. Again, this was to align the phase of both subs at the main listening position. I also have a slight negative EQ at 25Hz to remove a little ‘room boom’ on both.

@waymonfrench2077 4 года назад

@@timbathras2660 introsting my friend I guess I'll arrange my dual subwoofers some time today was thinking last night I'll put them up front l/r these subs can give you a good work out phew I've moved these things around at least 5 ,6 times I see alot people having there duals up front being off work cause of shutdown coronavirus gives me time to make arrangements these pb2000 pros are very nice subs

@makkkk4444 3 года назад

Hello you stated that dual subs are the way to go. I have an SB 3000 and a lesser paradigm 12 inch driver sub. Is it possible to integrate 2 different subs well? My room is 12 X 10. Any input from you would be appreciated.

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

It is possible to integrate different subs - however - it's not very straight forward. First, they really both need to be either sealed or ported (it is very hard to mix ported and sealed). Second, if they have wildly different group delays, it might not work well. Thirdly, you'll be limited volume-wise to the least capable sub, otherwise, you very well could over-drive the less powerful sub and either just get poor sound or even blow it. Really, if I were to mix two different subs, it would be more to fix a very specific problem in a very specific spot (i.e. if you have one seat in your room that just has no bass at all, or way too much), and probably just for movies. BUT - you just don't know unless you try it out. Every room is different, every sub is different. If you already have the gear, why not play around a bit.

@makkkk4444 3 года назад

@@timbathras2660 Thank you!

@jayshoe2832 3 года назад

The sub on the back wall; is it firing into the couch? Which direction does it fire?

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

The direction doesn’t matter as long as there is a couple inches between the woofer and the nearest surface so it can ‘breath’. Bass this low is omnidirectional, there just needs to be a little clearance for the woofer to move the air.

@HarshKumar-ts9mu 4 года назад

@Tim Bathras Hello Tim. Just get to know about you from Steve Gutenberg's recent video. As you mentioned in the video that you had PS Audio M700s. How does they compare to Crown XLS 1002? Can you please explain in detail. I am thinking of getting a Crown 1002. It would be really helpful if you can tell me how do crowns compare to high end gear like PS Audios. Thanks

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

The last time I was able to do an A/B comparison was a few months ago, so I can't give great detail about the differences. What I can say, is that for the Magnepans I'm driving, I found the differences to be minimal enough that I had no problem switching to the Crowns, especially because of the feature set they have. The real question is: is the price difference of over $2k (for a pair of M700 vs pair of 1002's) make any difference to your budget? If the extra $2k is no issue at all, then giving the PS a try might be worth it, but that will depend on your setup and your needs.

@HarshKumar-ts9mu 4 года назад

@@timbathras2660 Gotcha. I guess if you are finding Crowns matching well with with an Electrostat which are extremely clinical in nature, then I guess they will go with any type of speakers. As the Electrostats have best mids and highs compared to any other type of speakers, and that you don't see much difference in PS Audio and Crowns, then I don't think any other type of Speakers can show any difference. Am I right?

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

@@HarshKumar-ts9mu Maggies are planar magnetics, so they are different from electrostats. I have not heard any electrostatic speakers before, so can't comment on the difference between them. There are difference between the amps - but what you hear and how much of a difference will depend on your speakers, source, room, and your ears. Both products come with return policies (you'd want to verify with the store you might buy the Crowns from) so you could/should try them both if the cost of the M700's is not a factor.

@HarshKumar-ts9mu 4 года назад

@@timbathras2660 Here In India Crown XLS 1002 sells for $300.

@D800Lover 4 года назад

Since the SB2000 Pro is so good, the SB3000 is not worth the extra price in sheer LF performance?

@timbathras2660 4 года назад

It all depends on your room, your listening preferences, and your budget. I have not heard the 3000 line personally. If the extra $$ for the 3000 is no issue at all, then it may well be worth it. If the 2000 Pro is already a stretch, it won’t disappoint.

@zoki1911 3 года назад

Focal dome flax 5.1 is good option to pair with sb200pro ?

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

I've not heard those, so can't say for sure. But what I can say is that's I've successfully integrated my SB2000 Pro's with Magnepan 1.7i, Klipsh Heresy III, and Tekton Mini Lore; so quite a wide range.

@billybobby7607 2 года назад

Do you have too many acoustic panels?

@Exgol2005 6 месяцев назад

Fast bass of Maggies: spot on! i wish they go lower

@robertm8518 3 года назад

Are you using these for both home theater and stereo listening?

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

Yes, I am. It’s actually on my to do list to take measurements from the back row of seating where we watch movies from and setup one of the built in DSP presets for that arrangement on the subs. Right now they are just optimized for the main listening position and that yields fine enough results for the theater seats.

@3811eric 3 года назад

REL subs are better subs IMO. REL is considered audiophiles must have subs whereas SVS is better known to electronic outlets and discount stores.

@RJ-xj3ct 3 года назад

REL is better for music but SVS crushes it for movies and sound good for music too in my opinion.

@jeremymckean3574 3 года назад

REL subs are amazing but head to head, it’s an apple vs an orange. SVS is a powerhouse with speed and power for a harder to control and larger space. In my smaller stereo listening room, REL is just perfect. REL does music and does it really good. SVS does music and does it really good. Delta is the SVS does what the REL can’t.

@juanbaclavab 6 месяцев назад

You have the same hairstyle as Homer Simpson

@rovd4433 3 года назад

Good review but you did a lot of talking and you didn't show the product about which you talked let alone sound test the sound. I simply skipped and skipped without watching everything.

@timbathras2660 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate your comments. I’ve been trying to show the product in question more as I do more videos, as I enjoy seeing them in other’s videos as well, but frankly sometimes I just forget. I’ve also tried to cut down on length and get to the point and deliver more information in fewer words. It’s harder than it seems, at least for me. As for sound demos, I won’t be doing those as there is little objective value in them. I understand there is great entertainment value, but a true judgement of the product cannot be made, in my opinion, on a recording of it. Thanks again for taking time to watch and leave your thoughts.

@rovd4433 3 года назад

That's okay bro. Thanks for accepting my feedback too.

@dmullins5435 2 года назад

there is no way this subwoofer is 550w rms power, 1500 peek ya right, i wasted 1200$ on this subwoofer, i hate the way people blows these numbers out of proportion. No more than 80watts rms in my opion, i have a paradigm ps 1200 subwoofer with 130watts continues, it blows this svs subwoofer away. soo how can you tell me this is 550watts rms, 550watts rms should be alot of power if its actualy rated power at 8ohms